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Bug Translations

I can't translate via page Translations:Test Wiki:Copyrights/1/id Mbrt (talk) 15:55, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

http://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Test_Wiki:Copyrights/id MacFan4000 (talk) 00:08, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Done I can now :) Mbrt (talk) 07:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Request for bureaucrat and syadmin (Status:  Done)

I know this is a bit early considering I've only been here for a couple of hours, but I think I can help with managing the wiki, extension requests, debugging issues, and anything else that needs to be done here. I think I meet all the requirements on the sysadmin page, and I can confirm that I have GIT knowledge and that I know how both SSH and FTP work. This wiki has great potential and I think I can do well. Feel free to ask me any additional questions and I will be happy to answer. Andrei (talk) 18:09, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Support

• You seem to know what you’re doing MacFan4000 (talk) 18:25, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
• I agree and think you should be given these permissions. Kiko4564 (talk) 18:31, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Comments or Questions

I gave you bureaucrat. MacFan4000 (talk) 18:24, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you MacFan4000. Andrei (talk) 18:28, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

AlvaroMolina for sysadmin (Status:  Not done)

I'd like to formally nominate the user AlvaroMolina for the post of sysadmin. He has shown the community that he is very active and knowledgeable about wiki usage (see his miraheze profile @ https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:AlvaroMolina for details). He will also enforce the mutual confirmation clause by being a voice on decisions (1 sysadmin does something and the other 3 can review/vote on it). I believe he will be a valuable asset to both the site and team and hereby nominate him for the post.

Joepayne (talk) 14:37, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Please indicate your acceptance of this nomination below:

@Joepayne: Hi, I think him work good in steward, if you know sysadmin is different with a community social group, however sysadmin work in code and mediawiki system administration (such as git). :)Mbrt (talk) 16:07, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

At the moment I think I feel comfortable being steward, I might be able to help as sysadmin at some point since I have some experience in managing a server with MediaWiki using FTP and installing extensions both by this method and in console. Regards. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 19:44, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

 Not done Bingobro; Steward and Checkuser

Id like to request Steward and Checkuser rights. I'll use them responsibly. Bingobro (Chat) 08:40, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

I've been waiting quite long now MacFan4000 (talk) or anyone else kindly help. Bingobro (Chat) 03:41, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Support

1. Done Strong Support: I'd support this user as he has approved a few requests for adminship (including me).He has also blocked unruly/rouge users. Me Contact 08:16, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Oppose

• Weak Oppose I like if you get one year here and actively. Mbrt (talk) 02:20, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Neutral

• Netural I think we have enough stewards for right now, maybe if the site becomes more active. MacFan4000 (talk) 14:54, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

@MacFan4000:Well could I get Check user since no one is voting I think you are the only one active to do such things.Bingobro (Chat) 12:08, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

CheckUser is only given to Stewards/Sysadmins. We have currently got four stewards (including me). MacFan4000 (talk) 13:30, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

• Neutral Per MacFan4000. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 14:25, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Respect, your opinions guys. Guess I'll have to wait a little.Thanks.Bingobro (Chat) 05:13, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

New feature request -Page forms

Hello User:MacFan4000 I would like to request a extension https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Page_Forms for testing purpose. Thanks in advance Anoop/ಅನೂಪ್ ^✉_{. ©} 06:10, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Per miraheze reasoning for disabling it, it seems to not work right now. MacFan4000 (talk) 20:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Why this strange condition while asking for permissions

Hi,

Its a good idea to have admin rigghts easily for testing purposes. I found last part of second condition bit strange while asking for permissions it says "I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself. Why does some one should take responsibility for action not performed by himself ?

Mahitgar (talk) 14:11, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

because every person who does vandalism can say that they didn't do it and escape from their blocks.Since nobody would have access to your account unless you disclose your account details or use public connections and forget to logging out, which is also your fault. Anoop/ಅನೂಪ್ ^✉_{. ©} 21:46, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

I suppse this is just private/personal -non wmf- a test wiki . You can heve filters that will apply to users with admin rights too. Any content beyond tests can be removed deleted periodically. Why one needs to punish the user. and If any unlawful thing at all happens there are enough legal protection for website owner. If any case oes at all before any court then It is for investigation agencies and courts to determine whether a specific person was in his control of the device or no. It would be against natural justice if some ones device realy gets stolen and a mis did happens. At times a theft can really happen under durace at such times such condition informs the user that you ought to be looser even if you did not make a real mistake. I do suggest site owners to revisit their contention and take advice from a lawyer and put in reasonable conditions.

I wanted to divert some users to use this site , but under the given conditions it is difficult to advice any one to use the site.

If site owners do not feel need to revisit the policy then there is no pint continuing the membership and I request to remove me from your site membership

Thanks any way and regards

Mahitgar (talk) 10:11, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

@ Mahitgar I would like to say as it your choice to maintain account,

this wiki does not entitle for any legal procedures nor accommodates(ex:theft) those you explained above

so its choice of Stewards/Staff/System Admin/Owner of this wiki to set rules against spam/vandalism/disrupting other users. This Wiki alongside any MediaWiki sites uses similar Rules and Regulations & Further if you wish to disable your membership please create Phabricator task regarding closure of account, We are sorry to see you go. Anoop/ಅನೂಪ್ ^✉_{. ©} 11:06, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Flood flag

I am proposing a flood flag like on meta wikipedia. This right should only have the bot right to stop actions from flooding Special:RecentChanges. A short description is here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Flood_flag . This is based off the principle of least priveledge and differentiates between real bots and quick flooding bot flags easily. --Joepayne (talk) 13:51, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, least privilege doesn't really apply, since the only right that bots have that admins don't (besides bot) is nominornewtalk. I don't know if it's really needed, unless we really want to seriously separate legitimate bots from users performing flood actions. -- Void ^Whispers 00:26, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Actually I think we should separate legitimate bots from flooders just so its quicker and hey you don't really need nominornewtalk unless you are a real bot/user testing bot. Thanks Joepayne (talk) 08:37, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

 Not done /User denied proposal AlvaroMolina for sysadmin

Due to the recent removal of sysadmin and steward rights from Mbrt (thank you for your service by the way), we need to fill in the void (no pun intended). I therefore support AlvaroMolinia's ascent to the post of sysadmin so he may continue on in Mbrt's legacy. Joepayne (talk) 00:14, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Candidate please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:

• Thanks for the nomination, however being sysadmin is the same as being steward (in the wiki) and also Mbrt admitted that he would return in a few months. I would have no problem getting promoted, but for now with the tools I have today I feel comfortable, it's not an urgent need for me. Regards. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 16:06, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

It is a bit different since you get access to the backend (Via FTP/SSH). MacFan4000 (talk) 12:27, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

 Request Withdrawn —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 17:22, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Support

Support as nominator. If Mbrt comes back we can discuss this again and maybe change stuff but at least temp perms until he comes back so everything is well maintained. Thanks. Joepayne (talk) 08:05, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Neutral

1. I was told by Mbrt via Talk Page that they were busy, and that they could return in January. MacFan4000 (talk) 16:13, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Error while trying to create Abuse Filter

Hello, there is an error while I try to create an abuse filter that detects vandalism with the word "poop", and I would want a filter that detects the word and then disallow the edit, while I tried to create the Abuse Filter, there appeared error text "Internal error", blablabla and please can another create that Abuse Filter, and use this while creating the filter:

• Filter description: "Poop" vandalism
• Conditions:

!"confirmed" in user_groups & (
 article_namespace == 0 & (
  edit_delta < 300 & (
   (
    ccnorm(added_lines) rlike "\bP+([\.\,\/\?\>\<\!\@\#\$\%\^\&\*\(\)\_\+\-\=\{\}\|\[\]\\\:\;\']?)O\1?O+\1?P+\1?(E*\1?S+\1?|E+\1?R+\1?S*\1?|E*\1?D+\1?|I\1?N+\1?G+\1?)?\b"
   ) 
   & (!old_wikitext irlike "\bP+OO+P*(E+R+S*|E*D+|E*S+|I+N+G+)?\b"
   )
  )
 )       
)

• Notes: none
• Flags: private filter
• Actions caused while an editor trips the filter: Disallow the edit

- PSL600 (Talk) 11:56, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

We don't currently have the setup to use ccnorm as it belongs with another anti-spoofing extension that we don't use. -- Void ^Whispers 15:41, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Suggestions

Here, have I some suggestions to the Test Wiki:

• Change default skin from Refreshed to Vector/Monobook
• Add some more images and templates from Wikipedia, so more people come to this wiki
• More abuse filters

Please comment below - PSL600 (Talk) 18:11, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

As a rule of thumb, only have abuse filters for issues that are prevalent and recurring. -- Void ^Whispers 21:17, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Ok, but I would have default skin changed from "Refreshed" to "Vector" or "Monobook", because I do not like the "Refreshed" skin, "Vector" is better than Refreshed and more cooler, "Refreshed" is orange and have some harder text to read - PSL600 (Talk) 06:26, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

I support a change of default skin to "Vector", I believe that "Refreshed" is difficult to use due to the absence of some sidebar links such as "Special pages". Bonnedav (talk) 06:34, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Can't login to Phabricator

When I try to login to Phabricator using my wiki account, I get this:

@Bonnedav: We've fixed the issue, you should be able to login to phab now. -- Void ^Whispers 17:07, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

@Void: Thank you, I was able to create an account but I am not receiving the verification email. Is it being blocked? I already checked spam. Bonnedav (talk) 17:40, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

@Bonnedav: I've sent an email manually that contains the verification link. The subject of the email should be "Phabricator email validation". -- Void ^Whispers 23:00, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

@Void: It worked, thank you. Bonnedav (talk) 23:08, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

cannot log in to the phacibrator

@Void: I cannot log in to the Phacibrator on the test wiki, pleas can you help me to log in there please ? PSL600 (send message) 18:33, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Can you tell me what specific issue you are having? Is there an error code? Does your password not work? What is going on? -- Void ^Whispers 00:31, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Can't login to Phabricator

I can't use my testwiki's username and password to login the Phabricator.Wildly boy (talk) 12:35, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

You need to login using the "Login with MediaWiki" option at the bottom right of the login options. -- Void ^Whispers 14:22, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Wildly boy for Steward

Hello,I want to use the checkuser and oversight to help me combating vandalism.But these right only given to steward.So I want to request the steward so that combating vandalism.Thanks.Wildly boy (talk) 03:39, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Support Sounds good. EggRoll97 (talk) 11:44, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Suport User good. Gustave London (talk) 16:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Gustave London for Sysadmin

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Unsuccessful. no response for a while-- JJBullet

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I have a few edits, but I think I could be a good steward. I even know how to install MediaWiki, and I know how to use GitHub and phabricathor. So I think I'll be able to handle the wiki issues.I know how to use the check user supervision tool in other wikis so it looks like it will work here. Gustave London (talk) 22:33, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

@Shadi, MacFan4000, CptViraj, MONUMENTA, SRuizR, Void, Owen Fung, and Apap04: opine Gustave London (talk) 13:23, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello guys,opine,please. Gustave London (talk) 12:52, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Supports

• Support [Demonstrate ability] Destruction (talk) 21:14, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
• Strong support He has worked very well, already has sysop/bureaucrat rights on thetestwiki.org, and he knows PHP/SQL. --Owen Fung (talk) 01:56, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Oppose

Too soon, In my opinion has been here for not too long, doesn't deserve it just yet.--JJBullet ❪✉❫ 12:16, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

What wanted speak that it?People deserve merit,no by time Gustave London (talk) 16:45, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, cant really understand that first part, yes you are correct in some sense, to be brutally honest, I haven't personally seen much of what you have done, sorry.--JJBullet ❪✉❫ 17:13, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Neutral

• I'm neutral. I think it's too early, you've only been active for two months. --Mateo K 01 (talk) 15:38, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes,but I have technical knowledge. Can I help.Thank you by your opinion Gustave London (talk) 11:56, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Questions

1. Are you familiar with Debían and things such as MySQL, git or SSH?

Yes Gustave London (talk) 23:20, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

2. If so, do you know how to use them?

MySql is a database used im very wikis MediaWiki.In SSH are executed the maintenance scripts.Git is a repositry of some extensions or other things of the wiki. Gustave London (talk) 23:20, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 16:14, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

1. What do you intend to do with sysadmin?--JJBullet ❪✉❫ 08:27, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Add new funcionalitys Gustave London (talk) 13:09, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Gustave London, can you elaborate? --JJBullet ❪✉❫ 15:38, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Add new extensions,and any skins(if possible change to vector).Thank you question. Gustave London (talk) 12:01, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Vector is already available in the settings. --Mateo K 01 (talk) 15:26, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

But no is standard Gustave London (talk) 19:52, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

As Mateo has already said, vector is already available, no need for it to be standard.--JJBullet ❪✉❫ 12:17, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

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JJBullet for sysadmin

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Unsuccessful. Sysadmins are expected to have familiarity with MySQL, git, and SSH. -- Void ^Whispers 16:26, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

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I am self requesting sysadmin because i have been active on the testwiki, added some new features such as "adminstats" and "wikibreak", i am an active and trusted member of the testwiki and currently an admin & 'crat, if given the sysadmin right i will maje this wiki better by adding some new features, doing routine gried prevention & help out when needed, thank you for your time.--JJBullet ❪✉❫ 18:01, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Supports

Support Although new, it has worked well Gustave London (talk) 13:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Oppose

• Oppose No have technical knowledge.Sorry. Gustave London (talk) 11:40, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose, Special:Diff/8243. -- CptViraj (📧) 15:57, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Neutral

Questions

1. Are you familiar with Debían and things such as MySQL, git or SSH?

2. If so, do you know how to use them? MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 16:15, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Not really--JJBullet ❪✉❫ 10:05, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

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Comment

Don't hold it against me, but I noticed something in the context of the Steward/Sysadmin candidacies. Both users requested after the admin status the bureaucrat rights relatively quickly (a few days). After this very short time, both want to exercise extended functions. What I'm trying to say is, it's obvious too early, wait and see. --Mateo K 01 (talk) 20:10, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Mateo K 01 I agree. If your reply is good, then I will close both requests as invalid. Fungster (talk) 07:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Completely agree, i dont know why we are requesting rights so soon, --JJBullet ❪✉❫ 08:31, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

GitHub

@MacFan4000 and Void: See GitHub Gustave London (talk) 12:10, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

apap04 for sysadmin

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Unsuccessful. no reply within 2+ weeks.--JJBullet ❪✉❫ 10:56, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

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I've been on the wiki for about a year now, but I have been mostly inactive for the time being. I know how to use Git and SSH, although I don't have any experience in MySQL. I do know what MySQL is, but even if I had experience in MySQL, I wouldn't bother touching the Test Wiki's database in the first place. I have experience in using GitHub, and have made small contributions to some projects. I mainly use GitLab for my personal projects which I don't wanna reveal the code, and I have used Phabricator in the past to submit some bugs for the Wikipedia Mobile app. Thank you for taking time to read this. –apap04 ^{talk | contributions} 17:19, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Support

Seems like a good user, trustworthy, made good edits, has had bcrat many times, so they are a trustworthy user.--JJBullet ❪✉❫ 17:57, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

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JJBullet for steward

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Unsuccessful,no reply by +2 weeks.Do not undo,please. Gustave London (talk) 12:23, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

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I've been on the wiki for about half a year now, and i have been very active during this time. I know the responsibility of being a stweard as i am already a 'crat and admin on the Test Wiki. I have experience in handling user and have helped out with adding new things such as User administrator user-box and the and User bureaucrat user-box, and have made contributions to some others. Thank you for taking time to read this. -- JJBullet | Talk To Me 💬 16:17, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Support

Support,He had my support for steward. Gustave London (talk) 14:40, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Oppose

Strong oppose The user no have posture to be steward,he is unstable in their actions. Gustave London (talk) 13:20, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Why, because you're salty?-- JJBullet | Talk To Me 💬 20:16, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Neutral

Questions

Is this your Wikimedia account? -- CptViraj (📧) 13:05, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Technically Yes, me and my brother at my college share the same account, i know it may seem weird as i am technically blocked, it was my brother trolling on my account-- JJBullet | Talk To Me 💬 15:29, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

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Gustave London for System administrator

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Unsuccessful, no reply within 2 weeks, DO NOT UNDO-- JJBullet

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Hello,i am here 4 months ago.I know about mediawiki,mariadb and MySql,SQLite,SSH and Git.My account of the developer in wikimedia is Gustave London too.I would like of the help this wiki,and renew my request. Gustave London (talk) 14:44, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Supports

Neutral

Oppose

not even 1 month since your last request, I don't think s/he should be a sysadmin as I personally haven't seen anything warranting him to this role.-- JJBullet | Talk To Me 💬 17:39, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

EDIT: strong oppose, this user has not even answered my question.-- JJBullet | Talk To Me 💬 16:14, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Why are you so enthusiastic to show that he's not eligible for this role? Please be civil, There is nothing urgent. He isn't suppose to reply you in just 1 day. -- CptViraj (📧) 04:22, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Questions

What will you do with sysadmin?-- JJBullet | Talk To Me 💬 17:40, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Improve the perfomance Gustave London (talk) 11:12, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Ok, and how?-- JJBullet | Talk To Me 💬 14:13, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Add new extensions,new userrights and skins. Gustave London (talk) 10:35, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

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Kazrok4545 for Steward

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Unsuccessful, no reply. -- JJBullet

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I would like to try my candidacy for a steward.

What will I do with the steward? Check users for additional accounts before granting rights. For information:

I myself have already created wikis on the local Denwer server, as well as through the Phpadmin database.

If it’s too early, say don’t be shy.

Support

Oppose

Too soon, sorry,-- JJBullet | Talk To Me 💬 14:07, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Neutral

Questions

Result

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Could we get Twinkle in here?

Hi all,

I was doing Twinkle things and I realized I needed to get Twinkle into the GitHub source code. The source code’s here, and feel free to reply!

-- Brownlowe.2 ^{Talk to me...} 16:58, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Blocking

Hello, I am considering blocking a user due to a linked WikiMedia user being blocked, They refuse to respond when I ask whether or not they are linked. What do I do?

Can my name be changed?

Hi, I was wondering if there's any way to change my name here to Bugambilia. Thanks! Marseillaise (talk) 16:36, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 17:42, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Sourav Halder for Steward

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Unsuccessful, user is quite new, and on Miraheze, they are known for hat collecting. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 18:12, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

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I'd like to try my candidacy for a steward

What do I do with the steward? Check users for additional accounts before assigning rights. For information:

 I have already created a wiki on my local Denver server, as well as via the PHPdmin database.

 If it is too early, do not feel ashamed.

Support

Oppose

1. I don't see any need for more stewards. The right is very sensitive as it has checkuser permission, it's better to limit this access to fewer people as possible. -- CptViraj (📧) 10:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Neutral

Questions

Result

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Kazrok4545 for Steward

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Unsuccessful, the stewards cope with their duties. Kazrok4545 (talk) 01:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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After several months of working in the test wiki and other projects, I realized that I can help. Of course, I am not the best participant, some project participants are even better than me in many ways, but I wanted to help this wiki specifically to reduce abuse and other important things. So, I ask you to grant me the steward. I promise that I will not abuse this right in any case. I try to help where my help is really needed. At first I thought of going to the system administrator to help the wiki, but first I wanted to let the community and the administration itself trust in my words. I am familiar with Git, SSH, extension installation systems, database updates without command line access, and other very important things in MediaWiki. Of course, if you don't need my help in this wiki, then you can leave it at that.

If you need my global accounts in Wikimedia, please take a look. There I am registered under the same nickname. Kazrok4545 (talk) 05:17, 27 April 2020 (UTC) Notification: @CptViraj:, @MacFan4000:, @Void:, @Sourav Halder:, @JJBullet:

Support

Oppose

1. I don't see any need for more stewards. The right is very sensitive as it has checkuser permission, it's better to limit this access to fewer people as possible. -- CptViraj (📧) 10:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
   1. Yes, it is. Perhaps you are right. I don't know about the system administrators, but they seem to be able to handle it, too. If there are no more comments, you can close the application in a hurry. Kazrok4545 (talk) 11:00, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
2. I don't see a need for another steward -Examknow (talk) 23:42, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Neutral

Questions

Result

The consensus is clear, thank you all! Kazrok4545 (talk) 01:52, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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How do you change your name?

Can bureaucrats change their own names here? I wanted to change to Seranida. Skiyomi Solace (talk) 22:53, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Just adding that I haven't been able to find the page to change my own name, could someone do it for me please? Skiyomi Solace (talk) 22:15, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

It would be Special:RenameUser, but it is restricted to stewards. You may however request a rename. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 12:08, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

I see. Then can I please request a rename to Seranida? Thank you! Skiyomi Solace (talk) 18:43, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 13:25, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

checkuser

I wonder if one can checkuser him or herself here. Meta wiki, one of Wikimedia projects, says it can be done on test wiki. --DrizzleD-test (talk) 13:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

• Oh, I know now. Only bureaucrats can do it. --DrizzleD-test (talk) 14:15, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Request a rename

I want to rename myself to HIM303 --Herobrine303 (talk) 11:05, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@Void and MacFan4000: ^ -- CptViraj (talk) 04:04, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 12:06, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Case for Stewards

Page User:Qq808ms as a wiki page has been deleted. But problem hasn't been solved, because that user had inserted spam into own social profile. Only stewards are able to remove it. Neonek12 (talk) 19:05, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey, i need to change my name.

I need to change my name to DarkShadow please.

editsitecss/js restricted?

Hay, I noticed that bureaucrats can no longer add/remove the interface administrator group and that group has been removed from all users. The GitHub commit states that this was done to restrict editsitecss and editsitejs to sysadmins and stewards only. I would like to ask why this decision was made and what the reason behind it is as theas are permissions that an admin/'crat is likely to have on a real wiki and thus is useful to have on here for testing purposes. Also other test wikis still allow 'crats to have this permission, so I don't understand its being removed here. Also if you must restrict those rights, I would suggest removing them from interface admin then re-allowing add/remove of that group for 'crat. That way to group can still be used for testing and rare cases where and admin wants editinterface but not full bureaucrat. Thank you. Bonnedav (talk) 08:22, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

@MacFan4000 and Void: See question above. Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker (talk) 08:52, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Just a bump incase this was not noticed. Thank you. Bonnedav (talk) 07:57, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Bonnedav: As Naleksuh has done, you can request interface administrator at RfP. Seemplez (talk) 08:13, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Test Blocking

Can I test blocking options here ?? How to do that ?? --Emad4ald (talk) 07:03, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Emad4ald, you must go to Special:Block/Example and then select the kind of block you want to do Fast - ZoomZoom (talk) 15:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Test Wiki:Inactivity Policy

I'm not sure if I should edit one of the official policies of this wiki myself without asking here first, so: Does this line "A steward or sysadmin will be removed after a year of activity." means what it means or is here a mistake somewhere? Meiræ 18:42, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

@Meiræ: I’m not sure what you mean. It is correct; stewards and sysadmins will be removed after a year. --IWI (talk) 12:35, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment: after a year of activity (as is stated in the policy) or inactivity? Meiræ 19:28, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

It is now fixed. Fast - ZoomZoom (talk) 15:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Main Page error?

Instead of "Test Wiki, is" on the Main Page it should say "Test Wiki is", as it does on the engb Main Page. Seemplez (talk) 12:35, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes it looks wrong, but IDK how to fix it. Fast - ZoomZoom (talk) 15:38, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@Fast: I think editing is restricted to stewards, pinging @Void: and @MacFan4000: Seemplez (talk) 13:45, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes, when someone fixes this typo, could the same person also out the links inside tvar tags? The way it is now, users without the necessary rights can't translate the two units that contain external links without going directly to the source page and clearing captcha. Which I didn't even realise until @Fast: told me that.

I also think that Main Page/ase should be deleted since it's not a translation but a copy of the English main page.

--Sabelöga (talk) 22:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Sabelöga  deleted Fast - ZoomZoom (talk) 22:58, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Internal error

Question for sysadmins MacFan4000 and Void, but if anyone else has a clue it'd be nice to know, bit I get an internal error when loading this and some other pages.

Looks like this,

[d4c385f9c7007c454e0d72e7] /wiki/Test_Wiki:Community_portal Scribunto_LuaInterpreterNotFoundError from line 30 of /var/www/html/extensions/Scribunto/includes/engines/LuaSandbox/LuaSandboxInterpreter.php: The luasandbox extension is not present, this engine cannot be used.

any ideas? Fast - ZoomZoom (talk) 20:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Also happens on my user talk page, I tried deleting and undeleting but it didn't work. Fast - ZoomZoom (talk) 20:48, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

This was due to the lua interpreter not having support for php8.0. I’ve temporarily switched to a different one for now. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 12:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Special:UploadAvatar error

The error message:

[16a4f3b18084e0081fae1b27] /wiki/Special:UploadAvatar ValueError from line 125 of /var/www/html/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/includes/avatar/UploadAvatar.php: Path cannot be empty

Backtrace:

#0 /var/www/html/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/includes/avatar/UploadAvatar.php(125): getimagesize()
#1 /var/www/html/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php(579): UploadAvatar->performUpload()
#2 /var/www/html/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php(214): SpecialUpload->processUpload()
#3 /var/www/html/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/includes/specials/SpecialUploadAvatar.php(58): SpecialUpload->execute()
#4 /var/www/html/includes/specialpage/SpecialPage.php(600): SpecialUploadAvatar->execute()
#5 /var/www/html/includes/specialpage/SpecialPageFactory.php(635): SpecialPage->run()
#6 /var/www/html/includes/MediaWiki.php(307): MediaWiki\SpecialPage\SpecialPageFactory->executePath()
#7 /var/www/html/includes/MediaWiki.php(940): MediaWiki->performRequest()
#8 /var/www/html/includes/MediaWiki.php(543): MediaWiki->main()
#9 /var/www/html/index.php(53): MediaWiki->run()
#10 /var/www/html/index.php(46): wfIndexMain()
#11 {main}

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Avatar uploads are working just fine for me. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 12:44, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

emmm,It works fine now.Zhuofan Wu^{Cien años de soledad} 12:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Justarandomamerican request for stewardship

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Withdrawn Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:54, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

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Statement: Alright, I'm volunteering myself to the community. It may be a bit too soon, but I'm still volunteering. I'm active all the time, instantly block clear spam-only and vandalism-only accounts, and just maintain the community. I feel steward tools would be of use. I have time to make a commitment. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:07, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Support

Support per my statement. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:14, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Unfortunately I do not see a sufficient activity for stewardship here. I opened your contributions page to sort by 500 oldest, however those selectors are not even available for you as you have under 50 edits, with your first edit being a little less than a month ago. There are currently only two stewards both of which have been here for 3+ years. While 3+ years is not a required amount of time to become a steward (I would say perhaps 6 months to a year), your account is both somewhat newly registered and not that active here as well. I also don't see any indication of what you intend to do with the steward tools etc which I would expect in a nomination statement. Naleksuh (talk) 23:40, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Comment: Although six months to a year is kind of unreasonable to me, given how small and knit-tight this community is, I understand your point. Cheers, Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:50, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain

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Fast for Steward

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I'm honored by this nomination, and I'm always happy to help where I can. However, I don't have nearly the time available to meet the commitment expected of a new steward, especially as I've recently started assisting with janitorial tasks on a different wiki. As such I must politely decline this nomination, thank you. Fast - ZoomZoom (talk) 19:47, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, I'd like to nominate @Fast: for Steward. He is trustworthy, is constantly collaborating with users, and is active. He will lead this wiki with @Void and MacFan4000: to make it greater than it already is. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 18:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

• Acceptance:
• User: Fast - ZoomZoom
• Date: 18:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Support

STRONGEST SUPPORT: Per nomination. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 18:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Oppose

Abstain/Neutral

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Oversight role?

@MacFan4000 and Void: Do you think it'd be possible to get an oversight role? Seemplez (talk) 14:15, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Seemplez: I'm just gonna bump in here, but there's no need for it right now. From what I've seen, everything is fine, and the CheckUser right isn't really needed either, the only use for the Steward permission is that it can revoke bureaucrat permissions from a user. BlackWidowMovie0 (talk) 17:29, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I think we already have both kinds of oversight on this wiki, from google I saw https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/oversight which is revision deletion you should already be able to do the admin kind of revision deletion, there is also the suppress kind, which was done to a few entries a long time ago by MacFan4000, but for that you need to be in the suppress user group and only the stewards can assign that. Fast - ZoomZoom (talk) 18:14, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

If a steward thinks you should have it, and assigns it to you, or you become a steward, then yes. Otherwise, no. Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:09, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Fast, Justarandomamerican, and BlackWidowMovie0: Thanks. Seemplez (talk) 11:29, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

User:CptViraj

Please delete my userpage, Thanks! -- CptViraj (talk) 05:45, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

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•  Done --Q8j (talk) 08:26, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Spam abuse filters

I'd like to propose that we enable automatic blocking on our anti-spam abuse filters, as they have a rare false positive rate (and we can just unblock if there is a false positive). Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:51, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

 Support I Do think we could use filter for that. --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 18:51, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Good idea, I had considered proposing this for a while but had never got around to it. Blocking is a restricted action though, so this will need to be closed by a stewards. Naleksuh (talk) 23:28, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

We also need it because there is no way in hell I am doing this again. Naleksuh (talk) 00:10, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Geez, I normally mop up the mess the spambots make, and never have I had to give myself the bot flag, nor flood the log like that. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:49, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Agree, and prompt autoblocks will also prevent the spambots from creating new accounts on the same IP for 24 hours reducing the hit rate and making it easier to find any false positives. We can always tweak the filters that result in immediate blocks if problems occur. It may be advisable to limit blocks only to registered accounts for now since they are so far responsible for nearly all edits that trip the filter. Fast - ZoomZoom (talk) 23:15, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

It looks like we had another Hell load of Bot accounts today and don't worry Nalekshu I can always do mass blocking if you need me to or want me to do it just Message me and I'll do it 🙂 --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 04:43, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

 Done MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 12:59, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Help, abuse filter blocked me

Hi, this is administrator User:PorkchopGMX editing under a VPN, a different browser, and a new account. I was editing one of my subpages, planning to delete it and use my test account to see what it would look like with the “researcher” user group, when the abuse filter thought I was spamming and blocked me indefinitely with autoblock. The only thing I can do right now (besides having to use a VPN) is to email somebody. I don’t know who I should email, so I’m doing this instead. If anybody is skeptical that this is really me, I do have access to my account and can email somebody if they need proof. PorkchopGMX’s throwaway account that will only be used once (talk) 16:15, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello i already unblocked your main account please Do not use a Vpn i will GO ahead and Unblock your ip aswell so you can edit --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 16:22, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Cocopuff2018, I’m unblocked now. PorkchopGMX (talk) 16:43, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Proposal : Remove SocialProfile

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 Done MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 22:44, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

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Does anyone even like it? I would certainly support it being removed Naleksuh (talk) 22:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I honestly don't care if it's removed. Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:40, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Actually, I weakly oppose just for the communications options (userboard and such), if somebody wants a wiki user page, they get one, as there's a switch to toggle wiki userpages on. Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:24, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

@Justarandomamerican: No, it still leaves that stupid banner which people might not want and does random crap like auto-creating user pages and other clutter. It is simply a nuisance to this wiki. Naleksuh (talk) 06:28, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Also, I don't love that non-existent user page titles show up as bluelinks. That probably should be fixed upstream, but until then, I think it should be removed. For what it's worth, it's a banned extension on Public Test Wiki. Dmehus (talk) 07:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

I strongly support removing this extension, at least until such time as SocialProfile's extension developers migrate the social profiles to a UserProfile namespace and move wiki user pages where they rightly belong, in User namespace. Dmehus (talk) 23:37, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

 Support I would like a good userpage, instead, a box fill-in, pushing my userpage toUserWiki namespace. Harpsicorder (talk) 19:04, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

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"High chance of spam" filters and false positives

The spam filters have recently falsely blocked two users (User:PorkchopGMX and User:Dmehus) as spammers that were not. As a temporary solution User:MacFan4000 has set them to just disallow again, but they clearly need to block provided we can remove false positives.

I suggest requiring 0 edits for block. Generally spambots trip this filter on their first edit, so anyone who has made any successful edits is likely not a spambot. Any other ideas? Naleksuh (talk) 23:41, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

The filter should also require the creation of a new page. It already does for one of the filters, but it should for the other too. Naleksuh (talk) 23:43, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused, perhaps. Wouldn't requiring 0 edits to block increase the false positive blocks? Administrators are active here, and can revert spam quickly. I'd suggest just setting it to either warn or disallow permanently, with anyone with autopatrol in their user_rights exempted from the filter. Dmehus (talk) 23:46, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't think so. Most administrators have more than 1 edit. I support requiring 0 edits. Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:59, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@Dmehus: How would narrowing when blocks are placed increase false positives? Naleksuh (talk) 00:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, in my case, I only had one edit, and maybe I'm not understanding the central idea idea, but wouldn't reducing the edit requirement mean I would've been blocked when I made my permission request? Note that I never tried to add an external link—it was just an interwiki link. Dmehus (talk) 00:06, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

No, because your permissions request didn’t contain anything that would trip the filter. Also, I just tested that change, and it doesn’t work because most spambots are seeming to first make a change to their SocialProfile, which I guess counts as an edit. Or at least & user_editcount == 0 nothing trips the filter when I test it. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 13:35, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh, okay, well, I suppose it doesn't hurt to try it then, since you've tested the filter against recent edits. Plus, yeah, spam only accounts do tend add spammy links into their social profiles. Having said that, on some wikis on Miraheze what we do is simply add the SocialProfile-related rights to autoconfirmed, and that stops the spam only accounts cold, with minimal impacts on legitimate users. Also, if the above community proposal passes, this may end up being moot. Dmehus (talk) 15:57, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

If the above community proposal fails, I support moving updateprofile into autoconfirmed. Justarandomamerican (talk) 16:34, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Justarandomamerican request for stewardship (2)

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Unsuccessful MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 20:24, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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Statement by requestor: I'd like to request the globe again. I've been active and taking out the trash, and now my account is not newly registered. CU and Oversight rights would be helpful in performing maintenance and counter-vandalism and spam. (which I regularly do) It's been approximately a month since my last request, and I feel I have addressed the opposing argument. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:11, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Support

Procedural support as requestor and per my requesting argument. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:11, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Wasn't planning to comment but then I noticed canvassing at User_talk:LukeSkywalker26. Naleksuh (talk) 02:32, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

   Comment: It was a friendly message, not intending to influence discussion in a way. I really shouldn't have to clarify that. I was not intending to canvass, influencing discussion, but rather help to fully achieve consensus. (Notice all the neutrals.) Please remember to assume good faith. W:WP:CANVASS Justarandomamerican (talk) 02:49, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

2. Telling someone to assume good faith as a method of deflecting valid criticism is not something someone with steward rights should be doing. I'll also add that it might not be canvassing per se, but it certainly is not something I would do. Clearly it could affect the outcome of this. In addition, this wiki does not appear to need more stewards. --IWI (talk) 19:18, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain

• I'm not familiar with this wiki's policy requirements on access to personally identifying information. If suppressor can be granted independent of checkuser, this is something I could potentially support. My interactions with you, assuming you're the same Justarandomliberal on Miraheze, have been fine, though I don't know you well enough to support for Steward on this wiki. At the same time, MacFan4000 and Void are active enough on this wiki to perform any CheckUser functions, I think. Dmehus (talk) 00:56, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment:The requirements for PII here are just pretty much pass a RfS and follow the privacy policy. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:01, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
  • @Dmehus: Personally I think Oversight is a more larger deal than CheckUser. Naleksuh (talk) 01:25, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
    • @Naleksuh: Potentially, yes, that's true, though I'm not sure what information may have been suppressed. If it is IP addresses, largely, of users who edited while logged out, then it's probably the same. If it's grossly insulting and potentially libelous or defamatory information requiring suppression, then the concern for me is whether the user will be trusted not to divulge that information. The same is true of CheckUser, certainly, though. It's probably a wash, really, with you believing Oversight is the greater concern and me believing CheckUser is the greater concern. Dmehus (talk) 01:32, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
• Neutral I'm sorry but I agree with Dmehus I feel we don't need more Stewards Sorry --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 01:52, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Only one steward is active in a community capacity (MacFan). The other is mostly active as a system administrator, semi-active in a community capacity. (which is completely fine) We need one more active steward in a community capacity, certainly. Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:19, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
• Abstain While all my interactions so far with Justarandomamerican have been positive, I don't feel I know them (as well as their contributions here) well enough yet in order to be able to vote yes/no on this matter. Reception123 (talk) 19:06, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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Proposal: No open proxies policy

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Involved closure, but consensus is unanimous here. Nobody had an opposing or neutral argument. Cheers, Justarandomamerican (talk) 15:29, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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Community proposal: To establish as official policy, subject to amendment at Test Wiki:Community portal, No open proxies policy. Such policy shall prohibit open proxies, somewhat broadly construed, VPNs, and web hosts from being used for anonymous editing or account creation. On discovery, a Steward shall soft block with account creation disabled and talk page access revoked said IP range(s) for a period of not less than three (3) and not more than twenty four (24) months. Logged in editors may use them, as is the case on Miraheze, as at least the user will have been likely required to identify their personal IP to create an account. Where, upon discovery, an account was created by a VPN/open proxy, Steward discretion applies as to whether to block, or require a confirmation edit from a Wikimedia or Miraheze wiki. Steward discretion in terms of the length of the block/rangeblock applies, within the defined parameters, but the community recomments at least six (6) months for obvious cases. Where open proxies/VPNs are being used on this wiki by anonymous users, the open proxies/VPNs may be blocked by any sysop, subject to the same discretion as outlined above.

Support

• Strong support as proposer. Dmehus (talk) 20:35, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Open proxies have probably been used for long term abuse since this wiki began. This would help stop that. Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:19, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
•  Support While I'm very new here, I've heard this wiki has had some unfortunate instances of trolling and vandalism. In my experience, allowing account creations from open proxies/VPNs as well as anonymous editing for them usually causes trouble. There has been a NOPP in place at Miraheze since the beginning of 2017 and having a clear policy on the matter could be helpful and allow for routine soft blocks of VPNs and open proxies. While of course a policy likely won't stop trolls, it would make it easier to immediately soft block VPNs and open proxies once they are discovered. Reception123 (talk) 18:55, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral/Abstain

Comments

• "soft block with account creation disabled " Soft block inherently means having this enabled, what did you mean here? Naleksuh (talk) 20:39, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

  Naleksuh Yeah, I know that, but I just added that "with account creation disabled" for users who may not know that that's inherent with a soft IP block. Dmehus (talk) 21:15, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

• Soft blocking all open proxies upon discovery is a bit much for only stewards to do. There are only 2 stewards around here, unless the RfS above passes (might have a No Consensus closure with all those neutrals). Maybe change it to stewards or bureaucrats? Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:12, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

  Oh, sure, that's no problem, but to be clear, I just mean if they discovered open proxies in the course of a CheckUser from an abuse investigation, but if anonymous IPs are being used publicly on this wiki, any sysop could block. Dmehus (talk) 03:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

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Proposal: Bureaucrat rights only for trusted users

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 Unsuccessful MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 17:14, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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Proposal: Bureaucrat rights are not given to every user 24 h after admin rights request, rather trusted users. With 'crat rights there are not really any extra testing possibilities but currently it isn't possible to protect pages so that only experienced/trusted users ('crats), who aren't stewards can edit them because everybody can get bureaucrat within 24-48 hours. Since checkuser-limited is also available to sysops, nearly all test features are also possible for admins. Also currently there is only one (1) I only counted stewards, not interface admins user who is active (made edits/log enries in the last 30 days) who has a right that is not given out to everybody.

Support

•  Support. Zhuofan Wu^{Cien años de soledad} 14:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
•  Support --Morneo06 (talk) 12:05, 20 April 2021 (UTC) Comment: I agree with the proposer, the only extra testing possibilities are deletelogentry, nuke and import. If User:Blueexes would have been waiting 24 hours to get bureaucrat right and removed rights from every bureaucrat than waiting for a steward would have been necessary. --Morneo06 (talk) 20:49, 1 May 2021 (UTC); Recent block regarding me by Ronjapatch is also a perfect example why I support this proposal. --Morneo06 (talk) 21:17, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  Well, in that scenario, they wouldn't have been able to remove the bureaucrat bit from other bureaucrats, so worse case is there might've been some wheel-warring among bureaucrats and administrators (though hopefully not). Additionally, a steward is usually only a ping or two away. Even if MacFan4000 is away and Void isn't in the #testadminwiki channel on IRC, you need only ping me on IRC, and I can ping Void on Discord to take care of it. As I say, perhaps the requirements could be raised a bit, but this proposal isn't it. Best to close it and send it back to the drawing board and propose something else. Dmehus (talk) 21:46, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

•  Support. --Anton (talk) 14:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
•  Support. –Olipino (talk) 01:26, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Oppose

•  Oppose as the edit requirement is too high. Arbitrary edit count limits may actually encourage artificial or test edits in a sandbox. I'd be supportive of extending the timeframe from 24 hours to, say, 4 days, and require the user to have autoconfirmed privileges, but as written, though a good-faith proposal, I can't support this. Dmehus (talk) 21:39, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
•  Oppose This is a test wiki. I am in favor of increasing the requirements but what is proposed is excessive. LOCO 🔥 00:57, 29 April 2021 (UTC); (something like 3 days and 50 edits will be good) LOCO 🔥 21:24, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  Not 50 edits, that's far too high. I'd support increasing the number of days to 4 days, but keep the edit requirements to 10-20. Dmehus (talk) 21:48, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

•  Oppose –Olipino (talk) 00:31, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
•  Oppose I am favourable of increasing said requirements, but as @LocoSalas said, this is excessive. ~ Ronja (u • t • c) 06:25, 2 May 2021 (UTC) Blocked user LOCO 🔥 21:21, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain

• I agree that 50 edits is too high but an increase of requirements is still necessary. --Morneo06 (talk) 21:55, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments

• How to identify "trusted user"? By edits or others?Zhuofan Wu^{Cien años de soledad} 04:32, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Proposal:

• Users need to have sysop rights for at least fourteen (14) days
• Users need at least XX _{Suggestions are welcome} edits
  • a significant number of the edits need to be constructive, not only testing edits
• Users need to show, that they are familiar with the Test Wiki policies and that they have made edits/log entries recently that show that the users is working constructively.

Seems well. How about 7 days+50 edits like zhwp`s autoconfirmed user? Besides, remember to sign using ~~~~. Zhuofan Wu^{Cien años de soledad} 13:46, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Seems like a good time period and edit count. --Morneo06 (talk) 19:47, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Let`s start voting: Add following content to Test_Wiki:Bureaucrats.

Standard

• Users need to have sysop rights for at least 7 days
• Users need at least 50 edits

  a significant number of the edits need to be constructive, not only testing edits.

• Users need to show, that they are familiar with the Test Wiki policies and that they have made edits/log entries recently that show that the users is working constructively.

Zhuofan Wu^{Cien años de soledad} 14:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

@Morneo06: and @ZhuofanWu:, so you are saying 'crat flag should be granted only to those users who have been here for a while and have made a dozens of helpful contributions? Why is it necessary?–Olipino (talk) 12:42, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

@Olipino:Since BCs can grant him/herself Bot right, which can hide vandal edits or logs from recent changes unless you choose not to hide bot edits in the page. In a word, to prevent vandalism. Zhuofan Wu^{Cien años de soledad} 12:01, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

In my opinion, 3 days and 50 edits would be more suitable. LOCO 🔥 02:04, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

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