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Proposal

Hello, I happy to here to discuss on my new proposal to make a mediawikipage for this this JavaScript that help to easily block and oversight or suppress the revision of block user, spammers. etc, this script is originally based on User:WhitePhosphorus/js/all-in-one.js of metawikimedia, but this script needed to modified them, then it's script ready for use on Tesrwiki.

  • I think User:Aviram7/js/all-in-one.js is move to mediawiki namespace, then add this script in gadget and allow to sysop, crats, stewards for use on you're preferences.

@MacFan4000, Dmehus, Drummingman, and Justarandomamerican: Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 08:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would be fine with adding this as a gadget, but not on the common.js. X (talk + contribs) 10:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@X: Hello, Well! we have no probelm, If you like more gadgets for use, please see my common. js and this gadget is very helpful, firstly please test this js and then we think what can I do later?.

Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 12:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This gadget would likely need to be restricted to stewards due to just how powerful it is. Being able to revert all of a users edits, delete all the pages they've created, and block them in one click is simply a lot. X (talk + contribs) 18:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
X, You're right this js script is very powerful Use of this JavaScript should only be allowed by stewards and not allowed to use by any other privileged persons. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 03:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've commented it out of your common.js page for the moment, as it could cause some serious mayhem if used improperly. Ask me if you need a test performed. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Justarandomamerican Hello, Thank you for removing this script from my common. js, I've already performed the after adding this script on my common. js, I think this js script is more useful for the stewards.  Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Replace text

I've used it a lot in the past, and it saved a lot of time. But as of now, it's restricted to stewards. Why's that? Saint (talk) 04:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It was found that a vandal who gained sysop rights could vandalize the Main Page or similarly important Steward protected pages using ReplaceText. I know it has a lot of utility for you, so feel free to send me a message on my talk page, or Drummingman on his with a request, ensuring that original text, new text, and namespace(s) are provided. Justarandomamerican (talk) 12:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Is it possible to allow interface administrators to use it? X (talk + contribs) 13:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I suggested that to MacFan when I originally opened a security task about the issue. Me personally, I think it would be better to create a separate group that's able to use it, as IA is primarily intended to allow editing of script pages, though I am fine with bundling it in to IA (and Stewards) along with creating a separate group. Justarandomamerican (talk) 13:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

'Crat sysop first requirement

@EPIC, X, and DR: as interested persons. Recently, upon DR requesting bureaucrat, they were given it without first being an administrator. EPIC removed the crat right, and X restored it, stating that the requirement was pointless. To prevent a wheel war, I think it's best to set down community consensus on the issue. What do you, the reader, think of the requirement to be a sysop before being a bureaucrat? Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Justarandomamerican: I've support you're thoughts, This is test wiki not Wikipedia, we are here to testing of specific permission, firstly If any new user request for both rights, then firstly grant only sysop permission but not crats, because sysop have more permission on his group, crats is most important permission on the wiki, I don't understand why both user's make editwar in removing or adding crats permission from @DR, who received both permission after reviewing his request by an other crats. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 04:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I personally think that just like on other test wikis, there should some kind of requirement before being able to request crat, either an edit requirement (maybe something like 10 edits before being able to request bureaucrat would be a fair requirement if so?), or a requirement of a specific amount of days of having sysop before requesting crat (a day or two perhaps), or maybe a mix of both of those requirements.
The reason I think so is because unlike on other test wikis, the crat permission is quite powerful and can remove both bureaucrat and sysop rights. If it's given very liberally it can be quite dangerous. Now, I know DR from Wikimedia and they are a trusted user who I certainly don't think would abuse the bureaucrat rights, so I have nothing against them having crat. But, I don't have any intents to wheel war, the permissions have been given back and it can remain so. EPIC (talk) 08:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My intention was also not to wheel war. I know EPIC mentioned some suggestions for "requirements" for the 'crat role. However, as of now, those do not exist, making the rule about being a sysop first pointless. There is some Wikimedia essay about not following the policies if doing so would prevent you from improving the site, but I can't remember what it was titled. X (talk + contribs) 11:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You can remove the bureaucrat right from my account since I won’t be using it. I have MediaWiki installed on my local machine for testing purposes, and I already have all the advanced rights there. Here on this test wiki, my goal is to assist others by deploying some important and useful scripts and translating help pages. Initially, I thought that crats have access to grant the interface admin right, but it appears they do not, so I no longer require this role. Could any Steward please grant the interface admin right to my account? I would like to deploy some useful gadgets. Also, for granting requirements, I believe granting the bureaucrat role should be discretionary. DR (talk) 09:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We should definitely set requirements for gaining crat. It is a powerful position, and any disruptive user can easily misuse it. Since EPIC knew DR , there would not be a problem, but if a random user came and requested sysop and crat, there is a chance of vandalism or disruption. I propose that a user must wait 24 hours and make 10 edits before requesting crat rights Harvici (talk) 06:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's not a terribly powerful position, since it's mostly a testing right, but that being said, it does require an extra degree of trust as it includes extra permissions like nuke and import, which can cause vandalism that is time consuming to revert if used by unscrupulous actors. Since Justarandomamerican initiated the discussion, I will contribute here and allow Drummingman or MacFan4000 to close. Your suggestion of 10 edits is a good one, but I'd also add a time requirement and would suggest a minimum of a four day wait unless the user previously held user rights here, then the waiting period requirement is waived. We could also add in an alternate pathway to waive the waiting period requirement, such has having a confirmation edit from a mainstream wiki farm (Wikimedia, Fandom, or Miraheze) and being a known user in good standing there. Dmehus (talk) 01:31, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Permission revocation request

Hello, I am currently suffering from high powerful stress which is impairing my ability to work on test wiki and elsewhere, hence, I request the admins of test wiki to please remove my sysop + crats permission on my account, I will try to come back and edit here. Thanks to all the editors of test wiki for giving me a chance to test the tools of sysop and crats and I hope I have not broken any rules and regulations of test wiki..  Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 04:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done — You are free to reapply for user permissions when you return. Drummingman (talk) 08:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Interface Right

Hello everyone, I try to re- modifying Twinkle tool for use, but I don't think Twinkle Tool are working on Test Wiki; If you like I like to fix Twinkle tool for working on Test Wiki, so, I needed, please grant me Interface right for permanently for successfully complete this work. Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 16:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think that for the moment you can rework this script into personal subpages and we will see later about the rights because other interface admins will be able to add it as a gadget.DodoMan (talk) 16:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@DodoMan: Hello, Do you know Twinkle Tool are not currently available in gadgets section and it's subpages are not currently exist here, We recreating those pages and interface admin right are more help to edit and create js pages on Test Wiki.Cheers!~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Aviram7:Yes I know the tool it’s inavailable but you can rework script on your subpages. At worst, I will create these mediawiki pages and rework them with you. And also you need to request rights to Test Wiki:Request Permissions.DodoMan (talk) 17:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@DodoMan: That's Great! well I going to request for Interface permission on request page and try to creating twinkle subpages on userspace and I beleive our hard struggle will be positive result proved.~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I requested for Interface permission on TW:RfP. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Filter 120

I propose converting it to an abusive username prevention filter. Any objections? Codename Norte 🤔 talk 15:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nope,is good for me.(oh no is my bot account)BotRafdodo (talk) 16:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)~Reply[reply]
None. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Standby... writing the regex... Codename Norte 🤔 talk 02:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
and WHEW!!!  Done. Justarandomamerican, you might want to remove the account creation conditions from filter 92 since I implemented them to filter 120. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 03:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Any objections if I set this to disallow? Codename Norte 🤔 talk 01:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
LGTM. I'm not sure the likelihood of LTAs and blocked users trying to use variations of known usernames, but it can't hurt, either. Dmehus (talk) 02:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, if there's a helpful message. Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Done. Codename Noreste 🤔 La Suma 02:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Crat requirements's policy

Omnibus RfC: Unbundling abusefilter permissions from Administrators

Umm....

I have one last account rename request for the stewards: Jody. Saint (talk) 00:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done. Feel free to come back and request another, within reason. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

One more rename request

I actually intended to put Noreste instead of Norte; therefore, I am requesting a rename to Codename Noreste one last time to match Wikimedia and The Test Wiki. Thank you. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 03:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done. Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request for Block Against Piccadilly

Question

Is thanking a user for an action related to right management considered a logged action? Harvici (talk) 12:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think it would show up in the log (https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:Log?type=thanks&user=&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist), although not list the specific action. Piccadilly (My Contribs | My Messages) 12:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New Template

Hey everyone I recently created a new template "Failed policy" which I moved from my user subpage to the template namespace.This template mainly uses the code already available on English Wikipidea. I think it is uncontroversial, but if you have any suggestions or concerns, please let me know. Harvici (talk) 16:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I created this template mainly for this policy which clearly failed but the recent nominations of policies like crat policy and abuse-filter policy was also the reason for creation of the template :) Harvici (talk) 16:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Permission revocation request and block request

Can anyone block me (until 5:00 UTC, May 12, 2024) as I have something important coming up and don't want to be distracted and kindly remove my permissions as well Harvici (talk) 15:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Harvici: Done.DodoMan (talk) 16:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Phab help

So,it’s no sending the mail to my email adress.Help.DodoMan (talk) 16:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@MacFan4000: I also noticed the feed of recent activity on the homepage wasn't working, so multiple issues seem to be occurring. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's working again! Jody (talk) 02:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request for NSS: Aviram7

A newsletter?

What do you all think about creating a newsletter that tells you what changes have been made in terms of policies and technical changes and how many new users have been given crat and sysop rights (technically Wikipidea's administrator Newsletter)? Harvici (talk) 16:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Support. I think, that would be a good idea. Wüstenspringmaus talk 06:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question

Is the "pywikibot" directory uploaded to the server? Harvici (talk) 15:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

And is it possible to get shell access? Harvici (talk) 15:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Harvici: No.But you can use https://hub-paws.wmcloud.org/ for testing pwb.DodoMan (talk) 09:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Harvici

  • User: TheAstorPastor (talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights)
  • Requested right: IA
  • Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom (optional):
  • [Yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies and agree to follow them completely.
  • [Yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
  • [Yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.

Other comments:I am requesting this right to import few gadgets from other wikis and write some gadgets on own.I have experience in Java,Python, a little bit of CSS, and some in JS. I am also testing a bot, which I will include to TestWiki on successful runs, as well as writing scripts for a bot on discord with DodoMan Harvici (talk) 17:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I can confirm Harvici have the competence for this role.He is dev with me a discord bot to possibly be deployed on the wiki test discord.DodoMan (talk) 17:26, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Justarandomamerican,Dmehus,Drummingman, pinging so they can review my request Harvici (talk) 14:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Granted on probation. This just means that the right may be removed upon request by any bureaucrat in good standing. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! Harvici (talk) 01:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Crat policy

Recently Aviram7 granted bureaucrat rights to his friend Rohit, but I removed it as it was a violation of the bureaucrat policy.Aviram7 is a trusted user with advanced rights like IA, and since he knew Rohit personally , I don't think there would be any disruption. Currently, the policy states that a Steward may exempt a user they deem trustworthy from the above requirements and I propose that it should be changed to A steward or a bureaucrat, as applicable, may exempt a user they deem trustworthy from the above requirements. Harvici (talk) 17:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No, I believe it's suitable staying as it is. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 21:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There are 4 stewards. Ping us to request an exemption. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Rename request

Can my name be changed to "TheAstorPastor" as I adopted this name at Wikimedia projects and I plan to do so at Miraheze and similarly Harvicibot to APBOT Harvici (talk) 17:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Drummingman,@Justarandomamerican Harvici (talk) 16:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Done. Greetings, Drummingman (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]