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Revision as of 12:50, 30 July 2024
Proposal
Hello, I happy to here to discuss on my new proposal to make a mediawikipage for this this JavaScript that help to easily block and oversight or suppress the revision of block user, spammers. etc, this script is originally based on User:WhitePhosphorus/js/all-in-one.js of metawikimedia, but this script needed to modified them, then it's script ready for use on Tesrwiki.
- I think User:Infinityboy7/js/all-in-one.js is move to mediawiki namespace, then add this script in gadget and allow to sysop, crats, stewards for use on you're preferences.
@MacFan4000, Dmehus, Drummingman, and Justarandomamerican: Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 08:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- I would be fine with adding this as a gadget, but not on the common.js. X (talk + contribs) 10:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- @X: Hello, Well! we have no probelm, If you like more gadgets for use, please see my common. js and this gadget is very helpful, firstly please test this js and then we think what can I do later?.
Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 12:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- This gadget would likely need to be restricted to stewards due to just how powerful it is. Being able to revert all of a users edits, delete all the pages they've created, and block them in one click is simply a lot. X (talk + contribs) 18:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- X, You're right this js script is very powerful Use of this JavaScript should only be allowed by stewards and not allowed to use by any other privileged persons. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 03:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I've commented it out of your common.js page for the moment, as it could cause some serious mayhem if used improperly. Ask me if you need a test performed. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Justarandomamerican Hello, Thank you for removing this script from my common. js, I've already performed the after adding this script on my common. js, I think this js script is more useful for the stewards.
Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Justarandomamerican Hello, Thank you for removing this script from my common. js, I've already performed the after adding this script on my common. js, I think this js script is more useful for the stewards.
- I've commented it out of your common.js page for the moment, as it could cause some serious mayhem if used improperly. Ask me if you need a test performed. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- X, You're right this js script is very powerful Use of this JavaScript should only be allowed by stewards and not allowed to use by any other privileged persons. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 03:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Replace text
I've used it a lot in the past, and it saved a lot of time. But as of now, it's restricted to stewards. Why's that? Saint (talk) 04:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- It was found that a vandal who gained sysop rights could vandalize the Main Page or similarly important Steward protected pages using ReplaceText. I know it has a lot of utility for you, so feel free to send me a message on my talk page, or Drummingman on his with a request, ensuring that original text, new text, and namespace(s) are provided. Justarandomamerican (talk) 12:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is it possible to allow interface administrators to use it? X (talk + contribs) 13:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I suggested that to MacFan when I originally opened a security task about the issue. Me personally, I think it would be better to create a separate group that's able to use it, as IA is primarily intended to allow editing of script pages, though I am fine with bundling it in to IA (and Stewards) along with creating a separate group. Justarandomamerican (talk) 13:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is it possible to allow interface administrators to use it? X (talk + contribs) 13:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
'Crat sysop first requirement
@EPIC, X, and DR: as interested persons. Recently, upon DR requesting bureaucrat, they were given it without first being an administrator. EPIC removed the crat right, and X restored it, stating that the requirement was pointless. To prevent a wheel war, I think it's best to set down community consensus on the issue. What do you, the reader, think of the requirement to be a sysop before being a bureaucrat? Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Justarandomamerican: I've support you're thoughts, This is test wiki not Wikipedia, we are here to testing of specific permission, firstly If any new user request for both rights, then firstly grant only sysop permission but not crats, because sysop have more permission on his group, crats is most important permission on the wiki, I don't understand why both user's make editwar in removing or adding crats permission from @DR, who received both permission after reviewing his request by an other crats. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 04:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- I personally think that just like on other test wikis, there should some kind of requirement before being able to request crat, either an edit requirement (maybe something like 10 edits before being able to request bureaucrat would be a fair requirement if so?), or a requirement of a specific amount of days of having sysop before requesting crat (a day or two perhaps), or maybe a mix of both of those requirements.
- The reason I think so is because unlike on other test wikis, the crat permission is quite powerful and can remove both bureaucrat and sysop rights. If it's given very liberally it can be quite dangerous. Now, I know DR from Wikimedia and they are a trusted user who I certainly don't think would abuse the bureaucrat rights, so I have nothing against them having crat. But, I don't have any intents to wheel war, the permissions have been given back and it can remain so. EPIC (talk) 08:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- My intention was also not to wheel war. I know EPIC mentioned some suggestions for "requirements" for the 'crat role. However, as of now, those do not exist, making the rule about being a sysop first pointless. There is some Wikimedia essay about not following the policies if doing so would prevent you from improving the site, but I can't remember what it was titled. X (talk + contribs) 11:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can remove the bureaucrat right from my account since I won’t be using it. I have MediaWiki installed on my local machine for testing purposes, and I already have all the advanced rights there. Here on this test wiki, my goal is to assist others by deploying some important and useful scripts and translating help pages. Initially, I thought that crats have access to grant the interface admin right, but it appears they do not, so I no longer require this role. Could any Steward please grant the interface admin right to my account? I would like to deploy some useful gadgets. Also, for granting requirements, I believe granting the bureaucrat role should be discretionary. DR (talk) 09:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- We should definitely set requirements for gaining crat. It is a powerful position, and any disruptive user can easily misuse it. Since EPIC knew DR , there would not be a problem, but if a random user came and requested sysop and crat, there is a chance of vandalism or disruption. I propose that a user must wait 24 hours and make 10 edits before requesting crat rights Harvici (talk) 06:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's not a terribly powerful position, since it's mostly a testing right, but that being said, it does require an extra degree of trust as it includes extra permissions like
nuke
andimport
, which can cause vandalism that is time consuming to revert if used by unscrupulous actors. Since Justarandomamerican initiated the discussion, I will contribute here and allow Drummingman or MacFan4000 to close. Your suggestion of 10 edits is a good one, but I'd also add a time requirement and would suggest a minimum of a four day wait unless the user previously held user rights here, then the waiting period requirement is waived. We could also add in an alternate pathway to waive the waiting period requirement, such has having a confirmation edit from a mainstream wiki farm (Wikimedia, Fandom, or Miraheze) and being a known user in good standing there. Dmehus (talk) 01:31, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's not a terribly powerful position, since it's mostly a testing right, but that being said, it does require an extra degree of trust as it includes extra permissions like
- It happened to me too! Well, I am already an administrator, but not for 4 days! On the one hand, this guideline is a hindrance for serious users, but what if they are just spammers? Or something similar? One can trust me, but others... Justman10000 (talk) 11:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- You can always ping Stewards to make an exception for yourself. See the list of stewards to know who to ping The AP (talk) 13:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have already said that the user can start requesting crat rights in three days. It seems best to keep it that way. Drummingman (talk) 13:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- You can always ping Stewards to make an exception for yourself. See the list of stewards to know who to ping The AP (talk) 13:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Permission revocation request
Hello, I am currently suffering from high powerful stress which is impairing my ability to work on test wiki and elsewhere, hence, I request the admins of test wiki to please remove my sysop + crats permission on my account, I will try to come back and edit here. Thanks to all the editors of test wiki for giving me a chance to test the tools of sysop and crats and I hope I have not broken any rules and regulations of test wiki.. Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 04:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Done — You are free to reapply for user permissions when you return. Drummingman (talk) 08:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Interface Right
Hello everyone, I try to re- modifying Twinkle tool for use, but I don't think Twinkle Tool are working on Test Wiki; If you like I like to fix Twinkle tool for working on Test Wiki, so, I needed, please grant me Interface right for permanently for successfully complete this work. Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 16:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think that for the moment you can rework this script into personal subpages and we will see later about the rights because other interface admins will be able to add it as a gadget.DodoMan (talk) 16:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @DodoMan: Hello, Do you know Twinkle Tool are not currently available in gadgets section and it's subpages are not currently exist here, We recreating those pages and interface admin right are more help to edit and create js pages on Test Wiki.Cheers!~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Aviram7:Yes I know the tool it’s inavailable but you can rework script on your subpages. At worst, I will create these mediawiki pages and rework them with you. And also you need to request rights to Test Wiki:Request Permissions.DodoMan (talk) 17:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @DodoMan: That's Great! well I going to request for Interface permission on request page and try to creating twinkle subpages on userspace and I beleive our hard struggle will be positive result proved.~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @DodoMan: Hello, Do you know Twinkle Tool are not currently available in gadgets section and it's subpages are not currently exist here, We recreating those pages and interface admin right are more help to edit and create js pages on Test Wiki.Cheers!~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Filter 120
I propose converting it to an abusive username prevention filter. Any objections? Codename Norte 🤔 talk 15:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nope,is good for me.(oh no is my bot account)BotRafdodo (talk) 16:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)~
- None. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Standby... writing the regex... Codename Norte 🤔 talk 02:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- and WHEW!!!
Done. Justarandomamerican, you might want to remove the account creation conditions from filter 92 since I implemented them to filter 120. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 03:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Any objections if I set this to disallow? Codename Norte 🤔 talk 01:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- LGTM. I'm not sure the likelihood of LTAs and blocked users trying to use variations of known usernames, but it can't hurt, either. Dmehus (talk) 02:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- No, if there's a helpful message. Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Done. Codename Noreste 🤔 La Suma 02:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Any objections if I set this to disallow? Codename Norte 🤔 talk 01:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- and WHEW!!!
- Standby... writing the regex... Codename Norte 🤔 talk 02:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Crat requirements's policy
Omnibus RfC: Unbundling abusefilter permissions from Administrators
Umm....
I have another one last account rename request for the stewards: Jody. Saint (talk) 00:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Done. Feel free to come back and request another, within reason. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
One more rename request
I actually intended to put Noreste instead of Norte; therefore, I am requesting a rename to Codename Noreste one last time to match Wikimedia and The Test Wiki. Thank you. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 03:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Done. Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Request for Block Against Piccadilly
Question
Is thanking a user for an action related to right management considered a logged action? Harvici (talk) 12:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think it would show up in the log (https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:Log?type=thanks&user=&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist), although not list the specific action. Piccadilly (My Contribs | My Messages) 12:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
New Template
Hey everyone I recently created a new template "Failed policy" which I moved from my user subpage to the template namespace.This template mainly uses the code already available on English Wikipidea. I think it is uncontroversial, but if you have any suggestions or concerns, please let me know. Harvici (talk) 16:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I created this template mainly for this policy which clearly failed but the recent nominations of policies like crat policy and abuse-filter policy was also the reason for creation of the template :) Harvici (talk) 16:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Permission revocation request and block request
Can anyone block me (until 5:00 UTC, May 12, 2024) as I have something important coming up and don't want to be distracted and kindly remove my permissions as well Harvici (talk) 15:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Phab help
So,it’s no sending the mail to my email adress.Help.DodoMan (talk) 16:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MacFan4000: I also noticed the feed of recent activity on the homepage wasn't working, so multiple issues seem to be occurring. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Request for NSS: Aviram7
A newsletter?
What do you all think about creating a newsletter that tells you what changes have been made in terms of policies and technical changes and how many new users have been given crat and sysop rights (technically Wikipidea's administrator Newsletter)? Harvici (talk) 16:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Support. I think, that would be a good idea. Wüstenspringmaus talk 06:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Question
Is the "pywikibot" directory uploaded to the server? Harvici (talk) 15:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- And is it possible to get shell access? Harvici (talk) 15:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Harvici: No.But you can use https://hub-paws.wmcloud.org/ for testing pwb.DodoMan (talk) 09:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not without becoming a system administrator, no. Justarandomamerican (talk) 15:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Harvici
- User: TheAstorPastor (talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights)
- Requested right: IA
- Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom (optional):
- [Yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies and agree to follow them completely.
- [Yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [Yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments:I am requesting this right to import few gadgets from other wikis and write some gadgets on own.I have experience in Java,Python, a little bit of CSS, and some in JS. I am also testing a bot, which I will include to TestWiki on successful runs, as well as writing scripts for a bot on discord with DodoMan Harvici (talk) 17:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- I can confirm Harvici have the competence for this role.He is dev with me a discord bot to possibly be deployed on the wiki test discord.DodoMan (talk) 17:26, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Justarandomamerican,Dmehus,Drummingman, pinging so they can review my request Harvici (talk) 14:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Granted on probation. This just means that the right may be removed upon request by any bureaucrat in good standing. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Crat policy
Recently Aviram7 granted bureaucrat rights to his friend Rohit, but I removed it as it was a violation of the bureaucrat policy.Aviram7 is a trusted user with advanced rights like IA, and since he knew Rohit personally , I don't think there would be any disruption. Currently, the policy states that a Steward may exempt a user they deem trustworthy from the above requirements
and I propose that it should be changed to A steward or a bureaucrat, as applicable, may exempt a user they deem trustworthy from the above requirements.
Harvici (talk) 17:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- No, I believe it's suitable staying as it is. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 21:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- There are 4 stewards. Ping us to request an exemption. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Justarandomamerican and TheAstorPastor: Hello there, I think it's need to change exemption, so, I request to you please change exemption.
Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 02:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Justarandomamerican and TheAstorPastor: Hello there, I think it's need to change exemption, so, I request to you please change exemption.
Rename request
Can my name be changed to "TheAstorPastor" as I adopted this name at Wikimedia projects and I plan to do so at Miraheze and similarly Harvicibot to APBOT Harvici (talk) 17:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Drummingman,@Justarandomamerican Harvici (talk) 16:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Greetings, Drummingman (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Drummingman, please change the name of the bot. The AP (talk) 05:18, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also done now :). Drummingman (talk) 15:19, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Codename Noreste
Internal error
Hello guys, when you open Newsletter:Administrator newsletter you will notice an internal error is displayed, Does any one know about this or maybe it is an error developed during the addition of abusefilter groups to LocalSettings.php? The AP (talk) 05:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MacFan4000 ,please look into it The AP (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Very strange. Unfortunately I'm not sure that I can fix it, I'm not seeing anything obvious. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 17:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MacFan4000 I think there is some issue with content serialization.Just check if the Extension:Newsletter is upto date, and if possible, to get more insight to errors, please add the following lines to LocalSettings.php to enable detailed debugging
- $wgShowExceptionDetails = true;
- $wgShowSQLErrors = true;
- $wgDebugDumpSql = true;
- $wgDebugLogFile = "/path/to/debug.log"; The AP (talk) 12:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Very strange. Unfortunately I'm not sure that I can fix it, I'm not seeing anything obvious. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 17:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Suggestions to the abuse filter administrator role and revocation criteria
Since the abuse filter administrator role has so many rights that administrators and stewards already have but the abusefilter-modify-restricted, I suggest we remove every right from that role but keep the abusefilter-modify-restricted right. I would also suggest the following to include the revocation criteria:
- Has a pattern of activating restricted actions without first determining consensus
- The abuse filter administrator fails to exercise sufficient care when creating or modifying filters with restricted actions, resulting in innocent users being blocked or their autoconfirmed rights revoked
Any suggestions in addition to my criteria addition, as well as making the abuse filter page an official policy? Thank you. Codename Noreste 🤔 La Suma 04:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- I am supportive of those revocation criteria being applied in a reviewable manner by individual Stewards. However, I would like to suggest that more information be added to the page before it becomes an official policy/guideline. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think we could let the AFA vote go on for at least a week. Codename Noreste 🤔 La Suma 18:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Rename request
Can someone rename me to Gepard (talk · contribs)? Thanks in advance Wüstenspringmaus talk 12:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Done! Justarandomamerican (talk) 15:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Systemadministrator
Request for System administratorship
Inactivity bot
Think about writing one! Should they revoke the permissions directly, or just notify? Justman10000 (talk) 16:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd say it should send notifications to the community portal at first, and upon demonstrating it works, have it make rights temporary when the user will be considered inactive in 2 weeks. Justarandomamerican (talk) 16:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Systemadminstrator... or steward?
When would one be willing to accept me as a system administrator? I would be extremely unhappy to have to work for many months, a year or more! And would I have to become a steward first? Or could I be nominated and elected directly as a system administrator! Actually, the work itself says something about someone! Not the duration of the work Justman10000 (talk) 18:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- This is probably due to your account age, and please do not take this for granted, but your suitability to those high-trust roles (non-test roles) are what might concern me. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 18:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why? I mean, rejecting someone just because their account is too young... Actions are what define one, not the duration of one's collaboration Justman10000 (talk) 18:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- System administrators can shut down the wiki at any time they please. They can also make decisions such as amending the privacy policy or blocking entire IP addresses from even being able to access the site. For this reason, the community wants to see quality and quantity of contributions from prospective system administrators. The same goes for prospective members of any non-test role that can make major decisions, such as AFAs and Stewards. Justarandomamerican (talk) 19:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- And how old should an account be? Justman10000 (talk) 18:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Anywhere between 8 months to a year at least. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 19:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- How did you come up with exactly 8? Could be only 6 or 5 too Justman10000 (talk) 22:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- So, how about this, I recommend you have between 7 and 12 months of activity at least and know how to use PHP, Git, and SSH, and also recommend getting a Github account and sign in to it. If you don't have a Github account, you can register a Github account. I would also recommend to be active on the Wiki and be an administrator or bureaucrat and suggest for the best experience before system administrator, I would at least recommend requesting Steward permissions and also get a server from Linux Debian, MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, or SQLite and have an understanding of it. To be a Steward you can have at least 5 or 6 months of activity at least. I suggest you also have an understanding of Apache HTTP Server. Please read and heed any advice you need. Thanks. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 14:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- As I said, I've been working with Linux Debian for over 4 years! So I'm already familiar with everything mentioned! I've also had a GitHub account for years!
- And do I have to wait the 7-12 months AFTER my successful election as a steward, or just add the rest from the 4-5 months after the steward election? Justman10000 (talk) 15:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, you just joined late. In addition, I should say that you are too new there for Steward or System Administrator privileges. However, according to ChatGPT:
- "Yes, MediaWiki supports Linux Debian Server. MediaWiki, the software that powers Wikipedia, is designed to run on a variety of operating systems, including Linux. Debian, a popular Linux distribution, is well-suited for running MediaWiki due to its stability, security, and robust package management system."
- It is OK to use Linux Debian there on MediaWiki, but learn how to use Git, PHP, and SSH and also be active on this wiki. Please read and heed any advice. Thanks. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 20:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- I know that MediaWiki also runs on Linux Debian? Huh? You indicated yourself that test wiki runs on a Linux Debian machine? And as I said, I already understand all mentioned Justman10000 (talk) 06:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, yep. Kinda so, according to ChatGPT. Just wait a few months and be active enough to become system administrator. You know? I'm not a system administrator either! Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 20:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- But I am sorry, Justman10000, this is a high trust role. Try again next time... Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 20:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't want to say that, but somehow... you're playing yourself up Justman10000 (talk) 08:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I know that MediaWiki also runs on Linux Debian? Huh? You indicated yourself that test wiki runs on a Linux Debian machine? And as I said, I already understand all mentioned Justman10000 (talk) 06:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- So, how about this, I recommend you have between 7 and 12 months of activity at least and know how to use PHP, Git, and SSH, and also recommend getting a Github account and sign in to it. If you don't have a Github account, you can register a Github account. I would also recommend to be active on the Wiki and be an administrator or bureaucrat and suggest for the best experience before system administrator, I would at least recommend requesting Steward permissions and also get a server from Linux Debian, MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, or SQLite and have an understanding of it. To be a Steward you can have at least 5 or 6 months of activity at least. I suggest you also have an understanding of Apache HTTP Server. Please read and heed any advice you need. Thanks. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 14:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- How did you come up with exactly 8? Could be only 6 or 5 too Justman10000 (talk) 22:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Anywhere between 8 months to a year at least. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 19:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why? I mean, rejecting someone just because their account is too young... Actions are what define one, not the duration of one's collaboration Justman10000 (talk) 18:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
It's real, not fake. And for true, only 1 is currently system administrator. However, this makes no flexibility for a regular steward to be flexible with a user that jumped from being a non-steward to a system administrator. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 12:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd like to clarify that this is a test wiki, which means that anyone can experiment with MediaWiki functionality here. Within this space, users can request various permissions except for sys admin and steward, specifically for testing purposes. Sys admin and steward rights are crucial for the smooth operation of this wiki and are not intended for testing purposes. Steward rights are granted to users who invest significant time here, and the community trusts their judgment for sensitive actions. Similarly, the system admin right is not given out for testing; it's essential for maintaining the wiki's smooth functioning. At the moment, we have one sys admin diligently fulfilling their duties. Should the need arise, the community or founder can nominate trusted and technically proficient users to take up the sys admin role. I hope this clarifies things. DR (talk) 13:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, this is correct, as gaining sysop and bureaucrat rights and being active for the wiki is the minimum for Steward or System Administrator rights, with additional System Administrators requiring know how to use PHP, Git, SSH, recommended MySQL, MariaDB, Linux Debian, SQLite, PostgreSQL, Apache, Github, and Phabricator and gaining Steward rights. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 13:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing I didn't already know Justman10000 (talk) 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- What does that have to do with my comment? Justman10000 (talk) 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Involving the user rights for you. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Justman10000: I would like you to respond and reply here. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 15:45, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I still have no idea what you're talking about Justman10000 (talk) 16:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Justman10000: Here's the deal, you may have at least 7 months of activity and be active on this wiki to meet this criteria. You already meet other criteria, but I recommend yourself being a steward first. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 17:31, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I still have no idea what you're talking about Justman10000 (talk) 16:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Justman10000: I would like you to respond and reply here. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 15:45, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Involving the user rights for you. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Nominating Drummingman for system adminship
Wiki changes to propose upcoming
In the next few days somehow, I will post a bulk inserting of wiki changes here on the community portal. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 00:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Help to make an icon
Can anyone make a user icon for system administrator? As I am not good in that stuff and I need the icon to be added to the newsletters, I'm pinging @Codename Noreste as he previously updated some icons The AP (talk) 14:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- We could make it together. So what do we think? Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 15:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- GIMP or Inkspace can be very useful for this kind of work. LisafBia (talk) 15:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have Canva, so I will make the logo shortly. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 06:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Done! I uploaded File:TW-Sysadmin.png. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 06:38, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have Canva, so I will make the logo shortly. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 06:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Question
Do I have to pass a vote at the community portal for requesting bureaucrat rights? Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 12:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- No. You need Steward approval, or have consensus here for your rights to be reinstated. Justarandomamerican (talk) 15:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I requested rights below. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 20:17, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Discord error
![](https://static.testwiki.wiki/thumb/e/e5/Discorderror.png/300px-Discorderror.png)
I joined the Discord yesterday but couldn't verify (see image). Could someone take a look? Thanks. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 03:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Wait a little bit or try to refresh (especially if taking indefinitely long), if still not working, check your Discord settings, and then try to refresh again, if not repeat this cycle until you believe the Discord settings are correct, then if it still happens, check your browser settings and refresh, repeat this cycle, if it is not clear your cache, and if still not working try to restart your computer Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 14:29, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is already fixed by me. Greetings Drummingman (talk) 19:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for fixing this. CanonNi, try to refresh tab. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 01:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, got it working. Thanks, both of you. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:27, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for fixing this. CanonNi, try to refresh tab. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 01:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is already fixed by me. Greetings Drummingman (talk) 19:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Consensus for Extension:NewUserMessage
Suggestion
Hey everyone, I've noticed that in the navigation section of the main menu on the left side, there's a link to test pages that redirects to a category of test pages. Instead of linking to the category, I suggest we create a list of test pages and include a one-line description for each page. This would be more helpful for new users. The AP (talk) 15:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC)