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==Proposal== |
==Proposal== |
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Hello, I happy to here to discuss on my new proposal to make a mediawikipage for this [[User: |
Hello, I happy to here to discuss on my new proposal to make a mediawikipage for this [[User:Kiteretsu/js/all-in-one.js|this]] JavaScript that help to easily block and oversight or suppress the revision of block user, spammers. etc, this script is originally based on [[metawikimedia:User:WhitePhosphorus/js/all-in-one.js|User:WhitePhosphorus/js/all-in-one.js]] of metawikimedia, but this script needed to modified them, then it's script ready for use on Tesrwiki. |
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*I think [[User: |
*I think [[User:Kiteretsu/js/all-in-one.js]] is move to mediawiki namespace, then add this script in gadget and allow to sysop, crats, stewards for use on you're preferences. |
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{{Ping|MacFan4000|Dmehus|Drummingman|Justarandomamerican}} |
{{Ping|MacFan4000|Dmehus|Drummingman|Justarandomamerican}} |
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Thanks ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User: |
Thanks ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 08:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:I would be fine with adding this as a gadget, but not on the common.js. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 10:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
:I would be fine with adding this as a gadget, but not on the common.js. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 10:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::{{Ping|X}} Hello, Well! we have no probelm, If you like more gadgets for use, please see my common. js and this gadget is very helpful, firstly please test this js and then we think what can I do later?. |
::{{Ping|X}} Hello, Well! we have no probelm, If you like more gadgets for use, please see my common. js and this gadget is very helpful, firstly please test this js and then we think what can I do later?. |
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Thanks ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User: |
Thanks ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 12:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:This gadget would likely need to be restricted to stewards due to just how powerful it is. Being able to revert all of a users edits, delete all the pages they've created, and block them in one click is simply a lot. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
:This gadget would likely need to be restricted to stewards due to just how powerful it is. Being able to revert all of a users edits, delete all the pages they've created, and block them in one click is simply a lot. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::X, You're right this js script is very powerful Use of this JavaScript should only be allowed by stewards and not allowed to use by any other privileged persons. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 03:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::X, You're right this js script is very powerful Use of this JavaScript should only be allowed by stewards and not allowed to use by any other privileged persons. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Infinityboy7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Infinityboy7|(tαlk)]]</span> 03:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::I've commented it out of your common.js page for the moment, as it could cause some serious mayhem if used improperly. Ask me if you need a test performed. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
::::I've commented it out of your common.js page for the moment, as it could cause some serious mayhem if used improperly. Ask me if you need a test performed. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] Hello, Thank you for removing this script from my common. js, I've already performed the after adding this script on my common. js, I think this js script is more useful for the stewards. {{thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 15:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] Hello, Thank you for removing this script from my common. js, I've already performed the after adding this script on my common. js, I think this js script is more useful for the stewards. {{thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Infinityboy7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Infinityboy7|(tαlk)]]</span> 15:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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==Replace text== |
==Replace text== |
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I've used it a lot in the past, and it saved a lot of time. But as of now, it's restricted to <u>stewards</u>. Why's that? [[User: |
I've used it a lot in the past, and it saved a lot of time. But as of now, it's restricted to <u>stewards</u>. Why's that? [[User:Amos|Saint]] ([[User talk:Amos|talk]]) 04:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:It was found that a vandal who gained sysop rights could vandalize the [[Main Page]] or similarly important Steward protected pages using ReplaceText. I know it has a lot of utility for you, so feel free to send me a message on my talk page, or Drummingman on his with a request, ensuring that original text, new text, and namespace(s) are provided. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 12:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
:It was found that a vandal who gained sysop rights could vandalize the [[Main Page]] or similarly important Steward protected pages using ReplaceText. I know it has a lot of utility for you, so feel free to send me a message on my talk page, or Drummingman on his with a request, ensuring that original text, new text, and namespace(s) are provided. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 12:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::Is it possible to allow interface administrators to use it? [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 13:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
::Is it possible to allow interface administrators to use it? [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 13:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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=='Crat sysop first requirement== |
=='Crat sysop first requirement== |
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{{ping|EPIC|X|DR}} as interested persons. |
{{ping|EPIC|X|DR}} as interested persons. |
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Recently, upon DR requesting bureaucrat, they were given it without first being an administrator. EPIC removed the crat right, and X restored it, stating that the requirement was pointless. To prevent a wheel war, I think it's best to set down community consensus on the issue. What do you, the reader, think of the requirement to be a sysop before being a bureaucrat? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 03:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
Recently, upon DR requesting bureaucrat, they were given it without first being an administrator. EPIC removed the crat right, and X restored it, stating that the requirement was pointless. To prevent a wheel war, I think it's best to set down community consensus on the issue. What do you, the reader, think of the requirement to be a sysop before being a bureaucrat? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 03:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]]: I've support you're thoughts, This is test wiki not Wikipedia, we are here to testing of specific permission, firstly If any new user request for both rights, then firstly grant only sysop permission but not crats, because sysop have more permission on his group, crats is most important permission on the wiki, I don't understand why both user's make editwar in removing or adding crats permission from @DR, who received both permission after reviewing his request by an other crats. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 04:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]]: I've support you're thoughts, This is test wiki not Wikipedia, we are here to testing of specific permission, firstly If any new user request for both rights, then firstly grant only sysop permission but not crats, because sysop have more permission on his group, crats is most important permission on the wiki, I don't understand why both user's make editwar in removing or adding crats permission from @DR, who received both permission after reviewing his request by an other crats. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Infinityboy7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Infinityboy7|(tαlk)]]</span> 04:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::I personally think that just like on other test wikis, there should some kind of requirement before being able to request crat, either an edit requirement (maybe something like 10 edits before being able to request bureaucrat would be a fair requirement if so?), or a requirement of a specific amount of days of having sysop before requesting crat (a day or two perhaps), or maybe a mix of both of those requirements. |
::I personally think that just like on other test wikis, there should some kind of requirement before being able to request crat, either an edit requirement (maybe something like 10 edits before being able to request bureaucrat would be a fair requirement if so?), or a requirement of a specific amount of days of having sysop before requesting crat (a day or two perhaps), or maybe a mix of both of those requirements. |
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::The reason I think so is because unlike on other test wikis, the crat permission is quite powerful and can remove both bureaucrat and sysop rights. If it's given very liberally it can be quite dangerous. Now, I know DR from Wikimedia and they are a trusted user who I certainly don't think would abuse the bureaucrat rights, so I have nothing against them having crat. But, I don't have any intents to wheel war, the permissions have been given back and it can remain so. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 08:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
::The reason I think so is because unlike on other test wikis, the crat permission is quite powerful and can remove both bureaucrat and sysop rights. If it's given very liberally it can be quite dangerous. Now, I know DR from Wikimedia and they are a trusted user who I certainly don't think would abuse the bureaucrat rights, so I have nothing against them having crat. But, I don't have any intents to wheel war, the permissions have been given back and it can remain so. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 08:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
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==Permission revocation request== |
==Permission revocation request== |
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Hello, I am currently suffering from high powerful stress which is impairing my ability to work on test wiki and elsewhere, hence, I request the admins of test wiki to please remove my sysop + crats permission on my account, I will try to come back and edit here. Thanks to all the editors of test wiki for giving me a chance to test the tools of sysop and crats and I hope I have not broken any rules and regulations of test wiki.. {{Thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 04:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Hello, I am currently suffering from high powerful stress which is impairing my ability to work on test wiki and elsewhere, hence, I request the admins of test wiki to please remove my sysop + crats permission on my account, I will try to come back and edit here. Thanks to all the editors of test wiki for giving me a chance to test the tools of sysop and crats and I hope I have not broken any rules and regulations of test wiki.. {{Thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Infinityboy7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Infinityboy7|(tαlk)]]</span> 04:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} — You are free to reapply for user permissions when you return. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 08:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
:{{done}} — You are free to reapply for user permissions when you return. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 08:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
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==Interface Right== |
==Interface Right== |
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Hello everyone, I try to re- modifying Twinkle tool for use, but I don't think Twinkle Tool are working on Test Wiki; If you like I like to fix Twinkle tool for working on Test Wiki, so, I needed, please grant me Interface right for permanently for successfully complete this work.{{thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 16:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Hello everyone, I try to re- modifying Twinkle tool for use, but I don't think Twinkle Tool are working on Test Wiki; If you like I like to fix Twinkle tool for working on Test Wiki, so, I needed, please grant me Interface right for permanently for successfully complete this work.{{thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Infinityboy7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Infinityboy7|(tαlk)]]</span> 16:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:I think that for the moment you can rework this script into personal subpages and we will see later about the rights because other interface admins will be able to add it as a gadget.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 16:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
:I think that for the moment you can rework this script into personal subpages and we will see later about the rights because other interface admins will be able to add it as a gadget.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 16:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::{{Ping|DodoMan}} Hello, Do you know Twinkle Tool are not currently available in gadgets section and it's subpages are not currently exist here, We recreating those pages and interface admin right are more help to edit and create js pages on Test Wiki.Cheers!~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User: |
::{{Ping|DodoMan}} Hello, Do you know Twinkle Tool are not currently available in gadgets section and it's subpages are not currently exist here, We recreating those pages and interface admin right are more help to edit and create js pages on Test Wiki.Cheers!~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 17:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|Kiteretsu|label1=Aviram7}}Yes I know the tool it’s inavailable but you can rework script on your subpages. At worst, I will create these mediawiki pages and rework them with you. And also you need to request rights to Test Wiki:Request Permissions.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 17:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|DodoMan}} That's Great! well I going to request for Interface permission on request page and try to creating twinkle subpages on userspace and I beleive our hard struggle will be positive result proved.~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 17:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::I requested for Interface permission on [[TW:RfP]]. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 17:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::I requested for Interface permission on [[TW:RfP]]. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Infinityboy7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Infinityboy7|(tαlk)]]</span> 17:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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==Filter 120== |
==Filter 120== |
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I propose converting it to an abusive username prevention filter. Any objections? [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 15:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC) |
I propose converting it to an abusive username prevention filter. Any objections? [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 15:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:Nope,is good for me.(oh no is my bot account)[[User: |
:Nope,is good for me.(oh no is my bot account)[[User:DodoBot|BotRafdodo]] ([[User talk:DodoBot|talk]]) 16:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)~ |
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:None. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC) |
:None. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::Standby... writing the regex... [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 02:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
::Standby... writing the regex... [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 02:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::We wouldn't be able to technically restrict it, no, but, rather, it would provide automatic revocation criteria for the <code>bureaucrat</code> bit if Stewards suspect the two users are the same, or where the user has confirmed the two accounts are the same. That is, the bit would be removed from the legitimate sockpuppet accounts and a Steward would remind users to '''pick one''' account they want their bureaucrat bit on. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
*:::We wouldn't be able to technically restrict it, no, but, rather, it would provide automatic revocation criteria for the <code>bureaucrat</code> bit if Stewards suspect the two users are the same, or where the user has confirmed the two accounts are the same. That is, the bit would be removed from the legitimate sockpuppet accounts and a Steward would remind users to '''pick one''' account they want their bureaucrat bit on. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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*::::With the provisions for common sense exceptions by Stewards, that's fine. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
*::::With the provisions for common sense exceptions by Stewards, that's fine. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{comment}} It has been 2 weeks since the start of the discussion, and there are 3 votes in support and 1 in opposition. I wouldn't close this discussion today and wait for 24 hours more to see if anyone else wants to opine and also suggest others do the same.The following users were active in the month of May (5TH May) so pinging them if they want to opine: @[[User: |
*{{comment}} It has been 2 weeks since the start of the discussion, and there are 3 votes in support and 1 in opposition. I wouldn't close this discussion today and wait for 24 hours more to see if anyone else wants to opine and also suggest others do the same.The following users were active in the month of May (5TH May) so pinging them if they want to opine: @[[User:Kiteretsu|Aviram7]],[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]], [[User:C1K98V|C1K98V]],[[User:Codename Noreste |Codename Noreste ]], [[User:DodoMan |DodoMan ]], [[User:Sav |Sav ]],[[User:Gepard|Wüstenspringmaus]] [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 14:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::[[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 17:27, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
::::::[[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 17:27, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::A community vote and/or Steward discretion (for helper, or granting edit to those who have worked on abuse filters before) or consensus (for neither of those cases), I presume? Appointment by community vote only would be a higher bar than we set for our [[Test Wiki: Suppressors|non-steward suppressors]]. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
:::::::A community vote and/or Steward discretion (for helper, or granting edit to those who have worked on abuse filters before) or consensus (for neither of those cases), I presume? Appointment by community vote only would be a higher bar than we set for our [[Test Wiki: Suppressors|non-steward suppressors]]. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::{{support|Conditional support}} per my comment above. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::I am writing a proposed policy about the abuse filter and their proposed user rights; anyone can help. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 01:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
:::::::::I am writing a proposed policy about the abuse filter and their proposed user rights; anyone can help. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 01:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::::{{support|Strong Support}} I support this proposal. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 09:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::How long has it been since someone has abused abuse filter access? Months, years? I don't ever recall this being an issue. Like the above proposal, this simply makes it harder for users to test and I will always {{oppose|Strongly oppose}} that. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 13:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
:::::::::::How long has it been since someone has abused abuse filter access? Months, years? I don't ever recall this being an issue. Like the above proposal, this simply makes it harder for users to test and I will always {{oppose|Strongly oppose}} that. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 13:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::This also makes it extremely difficult to make small changes to abusefilters, or fix bugs. This is a solution looking for a problem, in addition to being extremely bureaucratic. Must I remind everyone that this is a testwiki, where people test tools like abusefilter? [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 17:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
::::::::::::This also makes it extremely difficult to make small changes to abusefilters, or fix bugs. This is a solution looking for a problem, in addition to being extremely bureaucratic. Must I remind everyone that this is a testwiki, where people test tools like abusefilter? [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 17:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::{{oppose}} I haven't found any vandalism in the abuse filters so far. It seems unnecessary to make such a change when there is no vandalism. Therefore, I am opposing this proposal. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 17:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
:::::::::::{{oppose}} I haven't found any vandalism in the abuse filters so far. It seems unnecessary to make such a change when there is no vandalism. Therefore, I am opposing this proposal. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 17:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:I now {{oppose|withdraw my proposal and oppose}} the policy proposal upon reading the two rational oppose comments. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
:I now {{oppose|withdraw my proposal and oppose}} the policy proposal upon reading the two rational oppose comments. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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===Alternate proposal: Restricted group and abusefilter sysop group=== |
===Alternate proposal: Restricted group and abusefilter sysop group=== |
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Rather than the above: Create a <code>abusefilter-restricted</code> group, grantable and removable only by Stewards at their discretion or upon a community partial ban from the abuse filter, with rights related to modification and private filters actively revoked. This would curb abuse (such as of the guidance filter), whilst making allowance for testing. In addition, I will also propose the AbuseFilter sysop group mentioned above in this proposal too, with the modify-restricted right, grantable upon consensus of at least two stewards or of the community. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
Rather than the above: Create a <code>abusefilter-restricted</code> group, grantable and removable only by Stewards at their discretion or upon a community partial ban from the abuse filter, with rights related to modification and private filters actively revoked. This would curb abuse (such as of the guidance filter), whilst making allowance for testing. In addition, I will also propose the AbuseFilter sysop group mentioned above in this proposal too, with the modify-restricted right, grantable upon consensus of at least two stewards or of the community. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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I have one last account rename request for the stewards: Jody. [[User: |
I have another <s>one last account</s> rename request for the stewards: Jody. [[User:Amos|Saint]] ([[User talk:Amos|talk]]) 00:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}. Feel free to come back and request another, within reason. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
:{{done}}. Feel free to come back and request another, within reason. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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==One more rename request== |
==One more rename request== |
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I actually intended to put Noreste instead of Norte; therefore, I am requesting a rename to '''''Codename Noreste''''' one last time to match Wikimedia and The Test Wiki. Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 03:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
I actually intended to put Noreste instead of Norte; therefore, I am requesting a rename to '''''Codename Noreste''''' one last time to match Wikimedia and The Test Wiki. Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 03:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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I will answer any questions or concerns to the best of my ability. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 23:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC) |
I will answer any questions or concerns to the best of my ability. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 23:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:You have an active, current, and indefinite [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]-imposed block. I am unsure as to why Sav raised this discussion, but your proposal is unnecessary, in my view, because you are [[w:WP:NOTYET|not yet ready]] to be unblocked by Stewards. As I stated below, this is a matter for Stewards, and neither one of us would unblock you unilaterally (at least I know ''I'' wouldn't). As well, we have yet to fully implement the restricted user group to revoke abuse filter editing or creating user rights, so from a technical perspective, any conditions of such a theoretical conditional unblock could not yet be implemented. But as I say, you have an active appeal in to Stewards, but we have not yet replied because we, or at least I think we, feel you're not yet ready to be unblocked. Why don't you go read a book, play a computer game, take an online course (your local public library likely offers free access to LinkedIn Learning for Libraries!), go for some hikes, and so forth, for at least '''three months'''. Do '''not''' touch [https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/ testwiki.wiki], Miraheze, or English Wikipedia. Add their domains to your Windows Hosts file (Google that if you aren't sure what it is), pointed to '''127.0.0.1''' so you technically ''can't'' access them, then e-mail <code>staff[at]testwiki.wiki</code> ''only'' after at least three full months has elapsed. I,, [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], and many other users, I'm sure, ''want'' to help you, so this is the best advice I can offer. :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 01:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
:You have an active, current, and indefinite [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]-imposed block. I am unsure as to why Sav raised this discussion, but your proposal is unnecessary, in my view, because you are [[w:WP:NOTYET|not yet ready]] to be unblocked by Stewards. As I stated below, this is a matter for Stewards, and neither one of us would unblock you unilaterally (at least I know ''I'' wouldn't). As well, we have yet to fully implement the restricted user group to revoke abuse filter editing or creating user rights, so from a technical perspective, any conditions of such a theoretical conditional unblock could not yet be implemented. But as I say, you have an active appeal in to Stewards, but we have not yet replied because we, or at least I think we, feel you're not yet ready to be unblocked. Why don't you go read a book, play a computer game, take an online course (your local public library likely offers free access to LinkedIn Learning for Libraries!), go for some hikes, and so forth, for at least '''three months'''. Do '''not''' touch [https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/ testwiki.wiki], Miraheze, or English Wikipedia. Add their domains to your Windows Hosts file (Google that if you aren't sure what it is), pointed to '''127.0.0.1''' so you technically ''can't'' access them, then e-mail <code>staff[at]testwiki.wiki</code> ''only'' after at least three full months has elapsed. I,, [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], and many other users, I'm sure, ''want'' to help you, so this is the best advice I can offer. :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 01:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:When the stewards feel I'm ready to be unblocked, which will most likely not be until at least August, they forward my appeal to the community, so they can all vote on it and can share any concerns or issues they may have with it? I'm willing to accept whatever is decided on by the stewards and community when that time comes, whether that means a full unblock, partial, or even no unblock. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 12:01, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
:When the stewards feel I'm ready to be unblocked, which will most likely not be until at least August, they forward my appeal to the community, so they can all vote on it and can share any concerns or issues they may have with it? I'm willing to accept whatever is decided on by the stewards and community when that time comes, whether that means a full unblock, partial, or even no unblock. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 12:01, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::That's the status quo. You're currently blocked indefinitely by Stewards. Given your past disruption, Stewards ''would'' likely seek feedback from the community's with respect to minimum timeframe for an appeal to be considered and to the technical measures that need to be put in place as well as conditions of such an unblock. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 12:48, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
::That's the status quo. You're currently blocked indefinitely by Stewards. Given your past disruption, Stewards ''would'' likely seek feedback from the community's with respect to minimum timeframe for an appeal to be considered and to the technical measures that need to be put in place as well as conditions of such an unblock. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 12:48, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:So as I understand this discussion currently, it seems the ideal option right now is to agree on a minimum length of time before my appeal is forwarded to the community for consideration. That's fine with me, and I won't make any more evasion accounts or use IPs here any more. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 20:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
:So as I understand this discussion currently, it seems the ideal option right now is to agree on a minimum length of time before my appeal is forwarded to the community for consideration. That's fine with me, and I won't make any more evasion accounts or use IPs here any more. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 20:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC) |
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If I were to say away from here for 3 months, until August, would that be long enough? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 16:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
If I were to say away from here for 3 months, until August, would that be long enough? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 16:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
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==Question== |
==Question== |
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Is thanking a user for an action related to right management considered a logged action? [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 12:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
Is thanking a user for an action related to right management considered a logged action? [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 12:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:I think it would show up in the log (https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:Log?type=thanks&user=&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist), although not list the specific action. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 12:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
:I think it would show up in the log (https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:Log?type=thanks&user=&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist), although not list the specific action. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 12:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
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==New Template== |
==New Template== |
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Hey everyone I recently created [[Template:Failed policy|a new template "Failed policy"]] which I moved from my user subpage to the template namespace.This template mainly uses the code already available on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Failed_proposal| English Wikipidea]. I think it is uncontroversial, but if you have any suggestions or concerns, please let me know. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 16:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
Hey everyone I recently created [[Template:Failed policy|a new template "Failed policy"]] which I moved from my user subpage to the template namespace.This template mainly uses the code already available on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Failed_proposal| English Wikipidea]. I think it is uncontroversial, but if you have any suggestions or concerns, please let me know. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 16:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
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==Permission revocation request and block request== |
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Can anyone block me (until 5:00 UTC, May 12, 2024) as I have something important coming up and don't want to be distracted and kindly remove my permissions as well [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 15:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC) |
Can anyone block me (until 5:00 UTC, May 12, 2024) as I have something important coming up and don't want to be distracted and kindly remove my permissions as well [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 15:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|TheAstorPastor|label1=Harvici}} Done.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 16:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC) |
:{{ping|TheAstorPastor|label1=Harvici}} Done.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 16:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC) |
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So,it’s no sending the mail to my email adress.Help.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 16:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC) |
So,it’s no sending the mail to my email adress.Help.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 16:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|MacFan4000}} I also noticed the feed of recent activity on the homepage wasn't working, so multiple issues seem to be occurring. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC) |
:{{ping|MacFan4000}} I also noticed the feed of recent activity on the homepage wasn't working, so multiple issues seem to be occurring. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::It's working again! [[User: |
::It's working again! [[User:Amos|Jody]] ([[User talk:Amos|talk]]) 02:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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==Request for NSS: Aviram7== |
==Request for NSS: Aviram7== |
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I Withdraw this request for NSS. thank you to everyone to participated in this request.}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User: |
I Withdraw this request for NSS. thank you to everyone to participated in this request.}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 07:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Requested right''': Non-steward suppressor |
*'''Requested right''': Non-steward suppressor |
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*'''Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom''' (optional): [[Wikipedia:User:Aviram7]] |
*'''Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom''' (optional): [[Wikipedia:User:Aviram7]] |
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*[yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning. |
*[yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning. |
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'''Other comments''': Hi! I like to help out to as NSS on test wiki and I'm willing to help with suppression when needed, and I am available/24/7 for help on testwiki or discord and I have read [[Test Wiki:Suppressors]], and the [[Test Wiki:Privacy policy|privacy policy]]. {{Thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User: |
'''Other comments''': Hi! I like to help out to as NSS on test wiki and I'm willing to help with suppression when needed, and I am available/24/7 for help on testwiki or discord and I have read [[Test Wiki:Suppressors]], and the [[Test Wiki:Privacy policy|privacy policy]]. {{Thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]|[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 07:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:As I mentioned in previous requests, we don't need a new suppressor at the moment. There are already 5 stewards and 2 suppressors active on the wiki (7 in total), so I see no reason to become a suppressor. {{oppose}} [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 08:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
:As I mentioned in previous requests, we don't need a new suppressor at the moment. There are already 5 stewards and 2 suppressors active on the wiki (7 in total), so I see no reason to become a suppressor. {{oppose}} [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 08:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|LisafBia}} Hello and Thank for making you're important comment on her and if a new NSS users are like to helping out to other NSS users and stewards; I like to help if i getting a chanced, I've 24/7 active on here. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User: |
::{{ping|LisafBia}} Hello and Thank for making you're important comment on her and if a new NSS users are like to helping out to other NSS users and stewards; I like to help if i getting a chanced, I've 24/7 active on here. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]|[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]] |
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:I am not a steward but I propose to grant the status for one week like my admin interface status.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 15:41, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
:I am not a steward but I propose to grant the status for one week like my admin interface status.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 15:41, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{oppose}} Even though there is a need for a NSS (EPIC isn't really active), I think you are relatively new to the Test Wiki and don't hold advanced positions like Sysop or Crat at other wikis (wikis that are not test wikis). [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 16:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
:{{oppose}} Even though there is a need for a NSS (EPIC isn't really active), I think you are relatively new to the Test Wiki and don't hold advanced positions like Sysop or Crat at other wikis (wikis that are not test wikis). [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 16:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{oppose}} Per Harvici and LisafBia. [[User: |
:{{oppose}} Per Harvici and LisafBia. [[User:Amos|Jody]] ([[User talk:Amos|talk]]) 02:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::{{Neutral}}. Per Harvici and LisafBia. I know Aviram7 is a trusted and active user, but I think we've enough NSS. [[User:Gepard|<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Wüstenspringmaus</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Gepard|''talk'']]</sub> 06:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
::{{Neutral}}. Per Harvici and LisafBia. I know Aviram7 is a trusted and active user, but I think we've enough NSS. [[User:Gepard|<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Wüstenspringmaus</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Gepard|''talk'']]</sub> 06:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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==[[TW:BP|Crat policy]]== |
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Recently [[User:Kiteretsu|Aviram7]] granted bureaucrat rights to his friend [[User:Rohit|Rohit]], but I removed it as it was a violation of the bureaucrat policy.Aviram7 is a trusted user with advanced rights like IA, and since he knew Rohit personally , I don't think there would be any disruption. Currently, the policy states that a {{tq|Steward may exempt a user they deem trustworthy from the above requirements}} and I propose that it should be changed to {{tq|A steward or a bureaucrat, as applicable, may exempt a user they deem trustworthy from the above requirements.}} [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 17:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Recently [[User:Infinityboy7|Aviram7]] granted bureaucrat rights to his friend [[User:Rohit|Rohit]], but I removed it as it was a violation of the bureaucrat policy.Aviram7 is a trusted user with advanced rights like IA, and since he knew Rohit personally , I don't think there would be any disruption. Currently, the policy states that a {{tq|Steward may exempt a user they deem trustworthy from the above requirements}} and I propose that it should be changed to {{tq|A steward or a bureaucrat, as applicable, may exempt a user they deem trustworthy from the above requirements.}} [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 17:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:No, I believe it's suitable staying as it is. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 21:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC) |
:No, I believe it's suitable staying as it is. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 21:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:There are 4 stewards. Ping us to request an exemption. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC) |
:There are 4 stewards. Ping us to request an exemption. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|Justarandomamerican|TheAstorPastor}} Hello there, I think it's need to change exemption, so, I request to you please change exemption. {{Thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 02:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{Ping|Justarandomamerican|TheAstorPastor}} Hello there, I think it's need to change exemption, so, I request to you please change exemption. {{Thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Infinityboy7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Infinityboy7|(tαlk)]]</span> 02:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::::You have your answer. Justa stated if you need someone exempted, ping a Steward. The policy won't be changed. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 11:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
::::You have your answer. Justa stated if you need someone exempted, ping a Steward. The policy won't be changed. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 11:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Thank you for this information, so, I no need to request for exemption in crat's policy. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 11:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Thank you for this information, so, I no need to request for exemption in crat's policy. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Infinityboy7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Infinityboy7|(tαlk)]]</span> 11:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::If you want to request an exemption, you need to ping a Steward, as I have already said. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 15:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
:::::If you want to request an exemption, you need to ping a Steward, as I have already said. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 15:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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==Rename request== |
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Can my name be changed to "TheAstorPastor" as I adopted this name at Wikimedia projects and I plan to do so at Miraheze and similarly [[User:APBOT|Harvicibot]] to APBOT [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 17:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC) |
Can my name be changed to "TheAstorPastor" as I adopted this name at Wikimedia projects and I plan to do so at Miraheze and similarly [[User:APBOT|Harvicibot]] to APBOT [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 17:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC) |
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{{done}} - Codename Noreste is trusted with abuse filter editing. The only objection is whether the user would be sufficiently active, but if the user remains sufficiently active it is not an objection. In short, there is consensus to grant Abuse filter administrator. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 14:57, 28 May 2024 (UTC)}} |
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:{{oppose|Weakest oppose}} I know that you have experience with abusefilters here and on other wikis but I am only concerned about your activity levels, like in recent talk page messages to which you haven't responded [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 10:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
:{{oppose|Weakest oppose}} I know that you have experience with abusefilters here and on other wikis but I am only concerned about your activity levels, like in recent talk page messages to which you haven't responded [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 10:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{support|Weak support}} I know that @Codename Noreste has a fair amount of experience with the abuse filter tool, but his ability to work here on a regular basis is not very high; if he promises that he will work on the test wiki regularly, but I guess I'd be happy to see how he works with the abuse filter here, then he might be granted abuse-filter admin permission for a limited time. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User: |
:{{support|Weak support}} I know that @Codename Noreste has a fair amount of experience with the abuse filter tool, but his ability to work here on a regular basis is not very high; if he promises that he will work on the test wiki regularly, but I guess I'd be happy to see how he works with the abuse filter here, then he might be granted abuse-filter admin permission for a limited time. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kiteretsu|(tαlk)]]</span> 11:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{support}}. One of our most trusted filter editors. The permission can be revoked if not actively used. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:07, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
:{{support}}. One of our most trusted filter editors. The permission can be revoked if not actively used. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:07, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{support}} Per Justarandomamerican. [[User:Gepard|<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Gepard</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Gepard|''talk'']]</sub> 10:27, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:I think a week has passed, would an uninvolved steward close this please? Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 03:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
:I think a week has passed, would an uninvolved steward close this please? Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 03:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Hello guys, when you open [[Newsletter:Administrators' newsletter]] you will notice an internal error is displayed, Does any one know about this or maybe it is an error developed during the addition of abusefilter groups to LocalSettings.php? [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 05:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Hello guys, when you open [[Newsletter:Administrator newsletter]] you will notice an internal error is displayed, Does any one know about this or maybe it is an error developed during the addition of abusefilter groups to LocalSettings.php? [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 05:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] ,please look into it [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 11:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
:@[[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] ,please look into it [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 11:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Since the abuse filter administrator role has so many rights that administrators and stewards already have but the abusefilter-modify-restricted, I suggest we remove every right from that role but keep the abusefilter-modify-restricted right. I would also suggest the following to include the revocation criteria: |
Since the abuse filter administrator role has so many rights that administrators and stewards already have but the abusefilter-modify-restricted, I suggest we remove every right from that role but keep the abusefilter-modify-restricted right. I would also suggest the following to include the revocation criteria: |
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Can someone rename me to {{user|Gepard}}? Thanks in advance [[User:Gepard|<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Wüstenspringmaus</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Gepard|''talk'']]</sub> 12:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 15:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Can someone rename me to {{User|Gepard}}? Thanks in advance [[User:Gepard|<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Wüstenspringmaus</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Gepard|''talk'']]</sub> 12:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC) |
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{{Discussion top|{{Not done}}, per strong opposition. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 16:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)}} |
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{{Ping|MacFan4000}} I would want to say that LisafBia, the two stewards (Drummingman and Justarandomamerican), and I, indicate that I voted, and all votes are oppose (formerly my vote was a neutral, but changed to oppose regarding most people's concerns). MacFan4000, you may have to close as unsuccessful. {{Ping|Justman10000}} If you have any further questions regarding this or want to vote on yourself, please state your questions below the votes in the "Questions by the candidate" section or take place of your vote here before MacFan4000 is closing it. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 20:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 15:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC) |
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I would like to be a system administrator so that I can also support at system configuration level... In addition to managing permissions, I would also keep the software, extensions and skins up to date and optimise the configurations! |
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It would be really nice to get a chance 🙂 [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 16:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:Did you know how to use Git, PHP, and SSH, and you are active on this wiki? Please see [[Project:System administrators]]. Also, it would be really nice for you to be a system administrator if you know understanding of Apache and a server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:00, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::I already work with Linux Debian since 4 years! So yes 🙂 [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Are you aware that this very high trust permission can cause great damage if it's improperly used? [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 17:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::I am aware of this! Yes [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::So, voting by the two stewards and by some users is required. If the votes are successful, then it goes to the system administrator to grant the permission or not. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::The votes are all oppose that it is likely to be unsuccessful. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 20:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC) (sorry for the late signing) |
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*{{Oppose|Weak Oppose}} Hi, thanks for volunteering. Unfortunately, I must weakly oppose your request at this time due to lack of necessary trust or track record. I do not think you would take the site down, abuse your power in some other way, or go inactive suddenly, but you do not hold Stewardship here or administratorship elsewhere, and you don't have that long of a track record, so I cannot be sure. Consider this a moral support of sorts; I have no objection to another run in the medium-term future. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:Like I said, I'd be happy to get a chance, and if you don't think I would abuse my power (which I wouldn't too), then what's the problem? [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::This permission is very powerful, can lock the database and have access to PHP, SSH, Git, and Github and even Apache and the server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::System administratorship is a very powerful position. I prefer to err on the side of caution. Can you describe your previous experience with FiveM and Minecraft servers? Do you have PHP experience? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::For the networks, I installed and configured web applications and Minecraft plugins [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::::*Do you have PHP experience? |
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*::::*To make it easier, it is recommended to use MariaDB, MySQL, SQLite, or PostgreSQL server and use Apache. Do you have experience and understanding of that? |
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*::::[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 01:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::::*I have already used all of the mentioned database systems early, so... yes |
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*:::::[[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 05:08, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{oppose}} Hi, nice that you signed up and want to get more involved, I can only appreciate that. But unfortunately, here and for this reason, I want to cast my dissenting vote. I am very reluctant to assign this role to someone I don't know well. Anyway, are you already a system administrator, steward or admin on a major wiki project somewhere? On a Wikimedia, Miraheze or other large wikifarm. On these wikis, you become one only after a thorough review and vote. To me, that is a hard requirement for a system administrator. SA has the unlimited power to shut down an entire wiki (database lock and unlock) block anyone and deny or grant anyone user rights. Therefore, this right can only be granted to highly trusted users. Of course, this is separate from the technical side, which is also important. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:Of course, yes, I agree. I absolutely vote and agree on {{Oppose}} but I gave the very strong oppose, biggest, strongest, ever. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 01:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{oppose|Strongly oppose}} It doesn't make much sense to give a user who has been a member for less than 1 month a higher level of authority than even the stewards such as the system administrator. You need to have 3 or more months of activity history. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 18:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:Nowhere does it say anything about that... So... And is it so difficult to give someone a chance? It's not really motivating [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 18:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::See what the text LisafBia and the 2 stewards said, plus the vote from me right below. Not satisfying and broken trust. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 20:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{oppose|Strongly, very strong, extreme, intense, super, mega, kilo, peta, peta, tera, tera, mega, mega, very strong, strongly, bigger, longer, and absolute oppose that is the biggest, longest, and strongest oppose that I will ever give}} Seriously?!? This user has no long history, new to this wiki, despite knowing PHP, SSH, and Git and needs more experience with Apache and a server (PostgreSQL, MariaDB, MySQL, SQLite). System administrator is a very powerful right, even more than interface administrator and especially intended to be more powerful than regular stewards, including grant or revocate anyone user rights, disable OAuth for a user, locking the database and have access to PHP, site-sensitive files, SSH, and Git as well as the server such as MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, and SQLite and Apache. They'll have access to DefaultSettings.php, LocalSettings.php, and NoLocalSettings.php. This right is extremely powerful. I hope this will be absolutely rejected. You'll hear no complaints from me. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 20:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{oppose|Strong oppose}} per {{tq|Drummingman and Justarandomamerican}}; Justaman10000 joined on test wiki sice 28 May 2024 (7 days) and I don't think they are really eligible for system administrator privileges for at this time and I don't think they are currently fulfill system admin's requirements. Happy testing ~~''<span style="background:#800080;border:1px solid #F62817;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:Infinity|<span style="color:#00FF00">ínfínítу</span>]] • [[User talk:Infinity|<span style="color:#FF0000">[@píng mє]</span>]]</span>'' 03:38, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:Do I speak Turkish when I say it would be nice to get a Chance? [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 14:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::Hey there, now you aren't being [[w:WP:AGF|nice]].Just to be clear and make you familiar with the community, the steward/system administrator is equivalent to a sysop, crat, or steward on Wikimedia or on big Wiki farms like Miraheze.You can't just go on those wikis and, in 7 days, request advanced rights.You need to build up a proper reputation here. In addition to it being a test wiki, we limit the testing rights to Sysop and Crat Bit.So I think you should try to spend more time here. :) [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 14:39, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|Justman10000}} No! You are didn't talk me in [[Wikipedia:Turkish language|Turkish]] languages but {{tq|you have joined 7 days ago before on Test Wiki, so, I don't think now you're eligible for system administrator privileges because this permission is very high level trusted privileges on in test wiki and I don't seem you're demonstrated with SSL, php and MariaDB, MySQL, SQLite, or PostgreSQL server and use Apache and others, I suggest to you please spent a long time (1 year or 3 years) on test wiki; I think you try to [[Wikipedia:Hat collecting|Hat]] collecting on here, so, I fully '''Strong oppose''' for this permission.}} Happy testing ~~''<span style="background:#800080;border:1px solid #F62817;border-radius :18px;padding:4px">[[User:Infinity|<span style="color:#00FF00">ínfínítу</span>]] • [[User talk:Infinity|<span style="color:#FF0000">[@píng mє]</span>]]</span>'' 15:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*<s>{{Neutral}} Used Linux Debian and may be trusted, but I don't know if completely trusted.[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</s> |
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*:I would be! I have already system-administered around 20 Minecraft and FiveM networks! Sure, this has nothing to do with MediaWiki itself, but it's about the principle! As I said, I would be happy to get a chance [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::Possibly some enhanced trust would be needed. Try to think when you become a system administrator. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::Vote since changed. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 20:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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What is actually so damn hard to understand about the sentence, ''It would be really nice to get a chance''? If you're only ever rejected, there comes a day when you don't want to do anything anywhere! Just give it a damn chance and let someone prove themselves... Is that so hard? |
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It is the unlimited power, yes! But that way I could have proved myself directly! It's extremely unmotivating to first have to do what I know how many weeks or even months of preparatory work, only to probably be rejected again! --[[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 05:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:Hey there, I understand that it may be frustrating to you that you aren't getting a chance to be a system administrator, but this isn't the case for you alone. @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] had his request for stewardship denied once and withdrawn also.@[[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] also had their request denied.I suggest you mingle with the community and try to spend more time here.Then, if you gain a fair position in the community, I will nominate you myself. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 06:31, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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{{Discussion top|This request is {{done|successful}}. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 18:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)}} |
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Hello. I've been a Steward for around a solid year. I've also been involved in the behind the scenes technical stuff such as Phorge/Phabricator and GitHub for a while, writing requests and pull requests. I have basic technical knowledge as described in [[Test Wiki:System administrators]]. I think having an extra system administrator would speed things along on Phabricator, along with ensuring that there's a backup when MacFan4000 is busy. Feel free to ask any questions. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} - You have been a steward with us for almost 1 year. This has given you the confidence to handle sensitive matters. You have also shown yourself to be a good steward. After all, we really need more System Administrators. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 16:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} per Drummingman [[User:Gepard|<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Gepard</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Gepard|''talk'']]</sub> 16:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} Trusted user. I wish the candidate luck with MediaWiki and other technical tools. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 17:00, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} with no objections to you becoming a brand new system administrator. As you've been highly trusted for mostly a year, we wish you good luck having another very high-trust role here. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 17:49, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support|Strong Support}} no concerns, trusted User with stewards privileges.---''<span style="background:#7B68EE;border:1px solid #FF00FF;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:#FFD700">Infínítybσy7</span>]] • [[User talk:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:#00FA9A">[@píng mє]</span>]]</span>'' 03:20, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} - Fine by me! With the please that my PRs are better considered --[[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 09:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support|Very strong support}} No concerns or complaints from this user, trusted user with Steward, bureaucrat, admin, and interface administrator privileges. As you have been a long-term legitimate user with being a Steward for at least an entire year, we wish you very good lock having you here as an extremely strong-trust role here. It's great if you know PHP, SSH, and Git (and to be even more trusted, Apache, Github, Phabricator, Linux Debian, MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, and/or SQLite), and you are so active here plus a trusted Steward. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 14:48, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} Looks good to me. [[User:DR|DR]] ([[User talk:DR|talk]]) 13:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} Trusted user [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 06:21, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
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===Oppose=== |
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===Discussion=== |
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Oh, but I'm not allowed to be? Interesting... And if you get it, me too one day, then that would be three (if not more)... [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 16:13, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:I'm sure you can become one someday. Right now, it's your track record here on Test Wiki people are worried about, because you haven't been on here for all that long. All of our Stewards have had months to years of history here before becoming stewards, and there are no current non-founder sysadmins. I'd even encourage you to apply in the medium to long term future. We could use your help, but the community does not think you should be one right now. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::I'm just afraid that too much could exist if I want to nominate myself for the second time! [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 21:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::I became a steward on my third request. When I put out a call for system administrators, there were no candidates. I doubt there will be too many system administrators by the time you try again. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 22:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Do you know enough about MediaWiki software and SQL? If yes, how will you use this knowledge? Thanks for your help. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 16:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:MediaWiki: Yes, I've been involved in various small projects, and so have enough knowledge to, for example, install extensions, manage them, and change configuration settings. |
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:SQL: I have only a bit of prior knowledge of SQL (again, from the various small projects), but can probably figure out how to, for example, change namespaces DB side as required by [[phab:T71|T71]] or remove protection as required by [[phab:T60|T60]]. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::That's OK there, Justarandomamerican. But you can learn SQL. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 20:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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{{ping|Justarandomamerican}} do you also intend to help with creating and modifying user groups? One example would be that admins can modify filters by default, and abuse filter admins (like me) ''and'' stewards can modify filters with restricted actions, as well as the ability to enable these actions. Thus, the AFA user right should only have one right, which is <code>abusefilter-modify-restricted</code>. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 17:41, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:Yes, I do intend to help out with that, and would be happy to remove redundant rights as required. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:42, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Just out of curiosity and if possible, can you provide the link of the projects you worked on [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 06:21, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:There's only one that's still running, and that would be [https://meta.makeawiki.org MakeaWiki]. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 11:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
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{{ping|MacFan4000}} Close this at your leisure. Thank you. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:18, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Inactivity bot== |
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Think about writing one! Should they revoke the permissions directly, or just notify? [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 16:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:I'd say it should send notifications to the community portal at first, and upon demonstrating it works, have it make rights temporary when the user will be considered inactive in 2 weeks. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Systemadminstrator... or steward?== |
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When would one be willing to accept me as a system administrator? I would be extremely unhappy to have to work for many months, a year or more! And would I have to become a steward first? Or could I be nominated and elected directly as a system administrator! Actually, the work itself says something about someone! Not the duration of the work [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 18:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:This is probably due to your account age, and please do not take this for granted, but your suitability to those high-trust roles (non-test roles) are what might concern me. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 18:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::Why? I mean, rejecting someone just because their account is ''too young''... Actions are what define one, not the duration of one's collaboration [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 18:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::System administrators can shut down the wiki at any time they please. They can also make decisions such as amending [[TW:PP|the privacy policy]] or blocking entire IP addresses from even being able to access the site. For this reason, the community wants to see quality and quantity of contributions from prospective system administrators. The same goes for prospective members of any non-test role that can make major decisions, such as [[TW:AFA|AFAs]] and [[TW:Stewards|Stewards]]. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::And how old should an account be? [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 18:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Anywhere between 8 months to a year at least. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 19:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::How did you come up with exactly 8? Could be only 6 or 5 too [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 22:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::So, how about this, I recommend you have between 7 and 12 months of activity at least and know how to use PHP, Git, and SSH, and also recommend getting a Github account and sign in to it. If you don't have a Github account, you can register a Github account. I would also recommend to be active on the Wiki and be an administrator or bureaucrat and suggest for the best experience before system administrator, I would at least recommend requesting Steward permissions and also get a server from Linux Debian, MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, or SQLite and have an understanding of it. To be a Steward you can have at least 5 or 6 months of activity at least. I suggest you also have an understanding of Apache HTTP Server. Please read and heed any advice you need. Thanks. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 14:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::As I said, I've been working with Linux Debian for over 4 years! So I'm already familiar with everything mentioned! I've also had a GitHub account for years! |
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::::::And do I have to wait the 7-12 months AFTER my successful election as a steward, or just add the rest from the 4-5 months after the steward election? [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 15:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::I'm sorry, you just joined late. In addition, I should say that you are too new there for Steward or System Administrator privileges. However, according to ChatGPT: |
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:::::::"Yes, MediaWiki supports Linux Debian Server. MediaWiki, the software that powers Wikipedia, is designed to run on a variety of operating systems, including Linux. Debian, a popular Linux distribution, is well-suited for running MediaWiki due to its stability, security, and robust package management system." |
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:::::::It is OK to use Linux Debian there on MediaWiki, but learn how to use Git, PHP, and SSH and also be active on this wiki. Please read and heed any advice. Thanks. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 20:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::I know that MediaWiki also runs on Linux Debian? Huh? You indicated yourself that test wiki runs on a Linux Debian machine? And as I said, I already understand all mentioned [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 06:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::Well, yep. Kinda so, according to ChatGPT. Just wait a few months and be active enough to become system administrator. You know? I'm not a system administrator either! [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 20:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::But I am sorry, Justman10000, this is a high trust role. Try again next time... [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 20:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::::I don't want to say that, but somehow... you're playing yourself up [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 08:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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{{outdent|::::::::::}} It's real, not fake. And for true, only 1 is currently system administrator. However, this makes no flexibility for a regular steward to be flexible with a user that jumped from being a non-steward to a system administrator. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 12:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:I'd like to clarify that this is a test wiki, which means that anyone can experiment with MediaWiki functionality here. Within this space, users can request various permissions except for sys admin and steward, specifically for testing purposes. Sys admin and steward rights are crucial for the smooth operation of this wiki and are not intended for testing purposes. Steward rights are granted to users who invest significant time here, and the community trusts their judgment for sensitive actions. Similarly, the system admin right is not given out for testing; it's essential for maintaining the wiki's smooth functioning. At the moment, we have one sys admin diligently fulfilling their duties. Should the need arise, the community or founder can nominate trusted and technically proficient users to take up the sys admin role. I hope this clarifies things. [[User:DR|DR]] ([[User talk:DR|talk]]) 13:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::Yes, this is correct, as gaining sysop and bureaucrat rights and being active for the wiki is the minimum for Steward or System Administrator rights, with additional System Administrators requiring know how to use PHP, Git, SSH, recommended MySQL, MariaDB, Linux Debian, SQLite, PostgreSQL, Apache, Github, and Phabricator and gaining Steward rights. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 13:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::Nothing I didn't already know [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:What does that have to do with my comment? [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::Involving the user rights for you. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{Ping|Justman10000}} I would like you to respond and reply here. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 15:45, 20 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::I still have no idea what you're talking about [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 16:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::{{ping|Justman10000}} Here's the deal, you may have at least 7 months of activity and be active on this wiki to meet this criteria. You already meet other criteria, but I recommend yourself being a steward first. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 17:31, 24 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Nominating Drummingman for system adminship== |
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{{discussion top|{{Not done}} due to candidate non-acceptance. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)}} |
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I would like to nominate Drummingman because he's a trusted user with no concerns and he's here being a Steward for a little more than a year and active on this wiki. So what do you think of my nominal? [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 20:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:Dear @[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] thanks for your nomination, I can certainly appreciate it. But I have absolutely no ambition to become a System administrator. Therefore, I do not accept the nomination. Greetings, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 21:20, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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===Questions for the candidate=== |
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===Voting=== |
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====Support==== |
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*{{Support}} Trusted user. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 20:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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===Comments=== |
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===Discussion=== |
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{{discussion bottom}} |
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==Wiki changes to propose upcoming== |
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In the next few days somehow, I will post a bulk inserting of wiki changes here on the community portal. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 00:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Help to make an icon== |
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Can anyone make a user icon for system administrator? As I am not good in that stuff and I need the icon to be added to the newsletters, I'm pinging @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] as he previously updated some icons [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 14:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:We could make it together. So what do we think? [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub> 15:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:[https://www.gimp.org/ GIMP] or [https://inkscape.org/ Inkspace] can be very useful for this kind of work. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 15:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::I have Canva, so I will make the logo shortly. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 06:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{done}}! I uploaded [[:File:TW-Sysadmin.png]]. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 06:38, 21 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Thank you very much! [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 09:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Question== |
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Do I have to pass a vote at the community portal for requesting bureaucrat rights? {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 12:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:No. You need Steward approval, '''or''' have consensus here for your rights to be reinstated. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 15:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::OK, I requested rights below. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 20:17, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Discord error== |
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I joined the Discord yesterday but couldn't verify (see image). Could someone take a look? Thanks. <span style="font-family:monospace;">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]]) 03:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:Wait a little bit or try to refresh (especially if taking indefinitely long), if still not working, check your Discord settings, and then try to refresh again, if not repeat this cycle until you believe the Discord settings are correct, then if it still happens, check your browser settings and refresh, repeat this cycle, if it is not clear your cache, and if still not working try to restart your computer {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 14:29, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::It is already fixed by me. Greetings [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 19:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Thank you for fixing this. CanonNi, try to refresh tab. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 01:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Yup, got it working. Thanks, both of you. <span style="font-family:monospace;">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]]) 04:27, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Consensus for [[mw:Extension:NewUserMessage|Extension:NewUserMessage]]== |
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{{Discussion top|I think it's fair to say that there is consensus for implementing this extension, due to the only negative argument being rebutted without response. I'll go ahead and implement this. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)}} |
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[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] recently closed [[phab:T100|a task]] that intended to add [[mw:Extension:NewUserMessage|Extension:NewUserMessage]] which would add a message to the talk pages of newly created accounts.The reason for closure was that he needed to see community consensus. Please note down your vote in suitable sections [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 17:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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===Support=== |
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*{{support}} I don't see any concerns about adding the Extension [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 17:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} We pretty much welcome all new users anyway, might as well automate it. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 19:16, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} I think an automation is necessary to welcome new users and I support the extension because I requested it. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 19:48, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} <span style="font-family:monospace;">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]]) 02:37, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*<s>{{Support}} {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 23:03, 29 June 2024 (UTC)</s> |
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===Oppose=== |
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*{{oppose}} Honestly, this extension should NOT be implemented. To all of the users who will register when this bot is in operation will have their talk pages created automatically by this extension's bot with the standard <code><nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki></code> template and signature. Who knows who the bot welcomes and what those users' intentions will be? Most of those users will not deserve a welcome on their talk pages because they'll be users who will never make a single contribution here, so what's the point in welcoming users like them? This includes the future spam-bots and vandals of course. I view what the bot will do as spam and excessive clogging to the <code>User talk:</code> namespace. I prefer that we, this time, stick to welcoming new users on our own, to the ones who'll register and actually make their first constructive edits, or other ways from them that show their deserving of these welcomes. [[User:Amos|Tsukushi]] ([[User talk:Amos|talk]]) 08:00, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:I would disagree. This Wiki is small and there are very little new users (only 13 accounts were registered last month). Even if certain users use their accounts for malicious purposes, they are easily blockable because, remember, almost everyone is an admin here. And if the extension does cause problems, it can be easily disabled. <span style="font-family:monospace;">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]]) 11:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::Furthermore, welcoming people and giving them quick links to request rights is helpful to new users that aren’t familiar with the layout of the wiki. There isn’t always someone online that will welcome them. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 01:30, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::I would not oppose in the favor in that question. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 22:12, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
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===Neutral=== |
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*{{Neutral}} per Tsukushi pretty much Tsukushi may be true but I arguably think that a bot may welcome new users or someone would like to use a different Welcome template. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 22:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
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===Discussion=== |
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:I would like to remind you all that consensus is !voting. The opposition argument above will be given significantly more weight, as will any well thought out supporting or neutral arguments. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:06, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Suggestion== |
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Hey everyone, I've noticed that in the navigation section of the main menu on the left side, there's a link to test pages that redirects to a [[:Category:Test pages|category]] of test pages. Instead of linking to the category, I suggest we create a list of test pages and include a one-line description for each page. This would be more helpful for new users. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 15:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:That seems pretty uncontroversial, go ahead! [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 12:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC) |
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==Why are my crat permissions not granted?== |
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{{Discussion top}} |
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I wanted to know. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 23:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:Hi. You were not granted bureaucrat because there was community consensus against granting you the permission. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:16, 12 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::Fine, but I would say I would wait until 90 days, (oh, actually 3 months) passed. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 23:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:Because the majority of votes were against [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 23:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC) |
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==My rights== |
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{{Discussion top|{{Done}}, rights revoked}} |
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Please remove all my rights except patroller. Thank you. [[User:Bosco|PB2008]] ([[User talk:Bosco|talk]]) 08:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} by Justman10000. Thanks for your work here! [[User:Gepard|<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Gepard</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Gepard|''talk'']]</sub> 08:09, 11 July 2024 (UTC) |
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==Requests for approval (bot)== |
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{{Discussion top|{{done}}! Was granted [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 00:28, 13 July 2024 (UTC)}} |
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Hello all, I have created a bot account named [[User:DR bot]] for maintenance tasks on this wiki. The first task I want to perform with this bot is to archive discussions on pages like the community portal, user talk pages, and other discussion venues. Therefore, I am requesting approval from the community. I'm also happy to assist with other tasks as needed. [[User:DR|DR]] ([[User talk:DR|talk]]) 16:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:I am against a bot archiving user talk pages, people should and do have the freedom to archive whenever. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 20:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::I would assume such a bot would be opt-in, as I would oppose mandatory archival myself. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:21, 4 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:::This seems very uncontroversial if user talks are opt-in. We don’t have a RfBA here, @[[User:DR|DR]], so you are welcome to move forward with your bot. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 23:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::::@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], @[[User:Sav|Sav]], @[[User:X|X]] This bot will not archive user talk page messages on its own. It will only do so if the following template is present. Users can add this template if they want to archive messages automatically. |
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::::<nowiki>{{User:DR/config</nowiki> |
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::::|archive = User talk:DR/Archive %(counter)d |
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::::</code> [[User:DR|DR]] ([[User talk:DR|talk]]) 02:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Well, in that case, I'll go ahead and give your bot the green flag. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 03:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Well, that changes my opinion. All good with me :) [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::Great, I will work on the documentation for this template. After that, we can set up auto-archiving for the community portal and the permissions request page. [[User:DR|DR]] ([[User talk:DR|talk]]) 15:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:DR|DR]] Can you shed light on other tasks this bot will perform? [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 12:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::I currently don't have any other tasks, but I am available to help with anything if someone needs. [[User:DR|DR]] ([[User talk:DR|talk]]) 12:55, 5 July 2024 (UTC) |
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==Bureaucracy of Tailsultimatefan3891== |
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{{Discussion top|{{not done}}. Consensus is clearly against TUF receiving 'crat rights. I suggest to Tailsultimatefan to take the feedback to heart and wait 2 weeks to a month before requesting crat here or to a Steward. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)}} |
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{{userlinks|Tailsultimatefan3891}} {{RfP apl}} |
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*'''Requested right''': <!-- Add the right you are requesting here (Administrator, Bureaucrat, Interface administrator) --> Bureaucrat (indef or until inactive for 3 months) |
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*'''Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom''' (optional): <!-- Please make a confirmation edit on the other wiki referring to your current account on Test Wiki, then paste the diff link here: e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Example/sandbox?diff=prev&oldid=000000 --> [https://rating-system.contentpedia.wiki/wiki/User:CVP8805a1 Rating System Wiki Contentpedia] |
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*[I agree] I am familiar with all of [[:Category:Test Wiki policies|Test Wiki's policies]] and agree to follow them completely. |
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*[I also agree] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself. |
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*[I also agree] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning. |
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*[I also agree] Note this right can only be granted by stewards. |
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'''Other comments''': <!-- You may use this space to insert other comments relevant to your request --> I would suggest passing a vote here. I know what are the risks here. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 20:16, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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===Support=== |
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*{{Support|Suppose}}, like mines! [[User:MihaiAdmin1|MihaiAdmin1]] ([[User talk:MihaiAdmin1|talk]]) 20:23, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::Sockpuppetry suspected. I assume the stewards are investigating. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 20:56, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::No relation between Mihai and Tailsultimatefan. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:15, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Yes, it was not me who did it by confirmation. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 16:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Is the vote still valid? Said user is blocked [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 20:10, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support|Weak support}} They haven't created any problems since acquiring the rights. Let's give them a temporary crat bit which can later be extended to permanent [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 15:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:What is the duration recommended? {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 16:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::One month, at the minimum? [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 03:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::That's for stewards to decide [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 17:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::Maybe so. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 22:11, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} If I recall correctly, this user has not done anything wrong recently, in the sense of violating policies. However, pretty much of what X said is true. But me personally, I don't have any problems with giving this user bureaucrat rights, but I'd also like to see them address the problems X has stated from the oppose and neutral sections. [[User:Amos|Tsukushi]] ([[User talk:Amos|talk]]) 08:40, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:Are you aware of the problems caused by the requester and still give your support? [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 20:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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===Oppose=== |
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*{{Oppose|Strongly oppose}} Acts like he's a steward (always wants to lecture me), even if he means good, it's kind of annoying... For example [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Test_Wiki:Community_portal&diff=next&oldid=45107 this] or especially [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Test_Wiki:Community_portal&diff=next&oldid=45126 this]! As I said, even if it's meant good, one don't have to act like a steward if one isn't one! Furthermore, the requester assumes that he would be exempt from the inactivity policy (see behind '''Requested right''') --[[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 20:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{Oppose}} I haven’t seen a clear demonstration of maturity and knowledge of wiki norms to feel comfortable supporting this. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 17:11, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:Why? {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 17:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::For one, you “supported” your own rights request above. You also left a comment saying you supported a users block, which I reverted. I’ve been back from my wiki break for only 2 days and have already seen two things that don’t show knowledge of community norms. That is why I am not comfortable at this time. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::OK. You can change your vote at any time before voting ends. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 01:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::::I am aware, yes. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 01:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::::I got it! OK. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 02:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::::I think he meant, that you ''should'' change your vote [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 20:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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*::::::As I said, I just think [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 20:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{Oppose}} The user needs to get to know the policies for a while. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 15:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:I already know it. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 23:04, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{Oppose}} Per X's comment. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 06:50, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:I already know it. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 23:04, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{oppose}} [[User:Gepard|<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Gepard</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Gepard|''talk'']]</sub> 14:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC) |
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===Neutral/Abstain=== |
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*{{neutral}} Per X. [[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 23:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:Please note that this is a vote from a non-sysop. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 01:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::This, yet again, shows a lack of understanding of our policies. Non-sysops are permitted to voice their opinion in community discussions and their user rights hold no weight on their voting ability. Also, username is the alternative account of @[[User:Amos|Jody]], a crat. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 01:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:::I got it! OK. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 02:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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===Comments=== |
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:Sometimes, I see some (if not most) of their edits in [[Abuse filter test]] trying to trigger and test some filters. Maybe you should do other non-test work here. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 23:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::It is just a test. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 23:54, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Proposal== |
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{{discussion top|I've decided my idea needs some work. Thanks to everyone for the advice. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 15:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC) }} |
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Just like we have a disqualification section in bureaucrat policy why don’t we have a steward policy that covers how does the rights of stewards and non-steward suppressor are removed.I have noticed that some users with advanced rights i.e, steward and NSS remain inactive most of the time and come by once to make some little changes or perform actions once in 1-2 months so they can retain their rights. For example EPIC Who is a Wikimedia steward and hold administrator right at Swedish Wikipedia, I think he’s a bit busy that he can actively contribute to this project and same goes with Doug a.k.a. Dmehus who is semi active at Miraheze and really inactive at this project.Additionally X has been active for past few days. With this in mind I think we definitely need a way where the community can remove such advanced rights from the users through voting. Such a resolution can be taken place when at least one or more steward and or 5 or more Crats are supporting that proposals.This way we can hold the users accountable for misuses also [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 14:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:While this is happening, one of the bulk changes will be an addition of the consul permission, which can handle up to 6 months of inactivity to handle their rights and instead stewards can handle up to 9 months of inactivity to handle their rights. This may interfere with this discussion. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 20:38, 24 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:This needs to be fleshed out more: What sort of consensus is required to remove Steward rights? What sort of consensus is required to remove NSS rights? How will the system prevent trolls or people holding [[WP:WP:battleground|grudges]] from missing it? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 04:10, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::Well '''it is not remove Steward rights. It is to add Consul rights between Bureaucrat and Steward rights.''' {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 11:35, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::@[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] You should start a new section for discussion of consul permissions; please carry out only steward policy-related discussion here. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 14:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::'''Reasons for Removal''' |
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::The rights for stewards and NSS can be removed only under two circumstances: |
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::1.) Misuse of Rights: Any actions taken by a steward or NSS that are deemed as a misuse of their powers. |
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::For Stewards: The resolution must be supported by at least 2 stewards and/or 5 bureaucrats. |
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::For NSS: The resolution must be supported by at least 1 steward and/or 1 NSS and/or 4 bureaucrats. |
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::''Discussion Period'': The discussion must last for a minimum of 14 days and can extend up to a maximum of 30 days. This period allows for a thorough and reflective conversation among community members. |
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::''Voting Period'': Voting will commence after one week of discussion. |
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::In order to vote in the redesign, the user must have bureaucratic rights and have made 50 edits since acquiring admin rights |
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::For Stewards: At least '''80%''' of the votes must support the removal. |
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::For NSS: At least '''70'''% of the votes must support the removal. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 14:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]],this isn't perfect and it is just an idea of what purpose this would serve, if there is community consensus for the policy then I will proceed further [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 18:13, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::<s>I would {{support|support}} the idea of adding to the [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Stewards]] page or creating some sort of [[Test Wiki:Removal of non-test rights]] page to make such provisions. I prefer the former. I feel it would be useful. </s> [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::In my opinions, I would {{Support}} this proposal. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 18:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Once I reach home I will make up the page as it seems there is community consensus for it [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 04:08, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::<s> I would {{support}} it, but with the following additional condition: Only users who have at least the bureaucratic right, and who have made at least 50 (non-vandalistic) edits two weeks before the start of the discussion period, can vote during the impeachment process. This is to prevent trolls/vandals or troublemakers etc. from deploying sock puppets and/or meat puppets. Of course, other users who cannot meet those requirements are allowed to keep participating in the discussion of course they are not allowed to use sock puppets, and they are not allowed to vote. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 20:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC) </s> |
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:::::How does this apply to system administrators? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 20:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC). |
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::::::support provisionally crossed out due to practical concerns, from Justarandomamerican. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 21:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::@[[User:TheAstorPastor|TheAstorPastor]] The only way I can think of is for stewards to have access to user rights and the server without being System administrators. This is to be able to add and remove rights; otherwise you have a system that is not foolproof. I honestly wonder if this is all well-thought-out now that I see these practical objections? We are a small community, this seems very difficult. A possible solution could also be, merge stewards and SA into the new users right 'Steward'. If 2 stewards or fewer remain, impeachment from the community is not possible. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 22:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::I still would {{Support}} this proposal, but for the resolutions, for the stewards, 2 stewards and/or 4 NSS and/or 4 AFAs, and/or 5 bureaucrats and/or 15 administrators, and for the NSSes and AFAs, 1 steward, 2 AFAs and/or 2 NSS and/or 4 bureaucrats and/or 12 administrators. But I am not sure because the upcoming consul permission may interfere with the requirements. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 01:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::{{Ping|Drummingman}} {{Oppose}} the removal of system administrator right. As a steward combined they can be so powerful that they can lock the database or grant all user rights. However, later, I will announce the consul right as in between bureaucrat and steward, as an equivalent to sheriff on thetestwiki.org so system administrator rights will be slightly more rarely given than earlier to keep it balanced. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 01:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] and @[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] Well SA rights can be removed in a similar fashion i.e, 2 steward, and or 5 bureaucrat .We are a small community with 4 Steward,2 NSS and 2 SA.If there is 2 steward then definitely the impeachment is not possible but there is another way that is 5 bureaucrats. Existing steward may check user the votes so there is no sockpuppetry or meat puppetry. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 11:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::Another possibility is that SA rights can't be removed for inactivity, which is less than specified in [[TW:IP]] because we only have 2 SA, out of which MacFan4000 remains inactive most of the time. But they can be removed for misuse. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 11:44, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::{{neutral}} at this point. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] Do you think that I should proceed with the policy or wait a little bit longer? [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 15:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::It would need to be closed by an uninvolved user, and I would not say that consensus has been reached yet. I would suggest taking all the feedback you’ve received and create a user subpage of what the updated rights pages would look like and create a new thread for the community to vote on. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 15:52, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::::Thanks for the feedback. Would you care to close the thread? [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 17:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::I am now also {{neutral}} because, no practical solution has been found for the SA combination stewards. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 19:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::Sorry to argue about this, but system administrator rights are very powerful and I oppose on this decision. Like again: |
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::::::::::::"I still would {{Support}} this proposal, but for the resolutions, for the stewards, 2 stewards and/or 4 NSS and/or 4 AFAs, and/or 5 bureaucrats and/or 15 administrators, and for the NSSes and AFAs, 1 steward, 2 AFAs and/or 2 NSS and/or 4 bureaucrats and/or 12 administrators. But I am not sure because the upcoming consul permission may interfere with the requirements." |
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::::::::::::And another statement I made: |
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::::::::::::"{{Oppose}} the removal of system administrator right. As a steward combined they can be so powerful that they can lock the database or grant all user rights. However, later, I will announce the consul right as in between bureaucrat and steward, as an equivalent to sheriff on thetestwiki.org so system administrator rights will be slightly more rarely given than earlier to keep it balanced." |
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::::::::::::In addition, non-bureaucrats can vote during the impeachment process as long as they made at least 70 (non-vandalism) edits 1 week prior to, has been registered for at least 1 month, and needs to be an administrator. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 22:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 09:29, 10 December 2024
Proposal
Hello, I happy to here to discuss on my new proposal to make a mediawikipage for this this JavaScript that help to easily block and oversight or suppress the revision of block user, spammers. etc, this script is originally based on User:WhitePhosphorus/js/all-in-one.js of metawikimedia, but this script needed to modified them, then it's script ready for use on Tesrwiki.
- I think User:Kiteretsu/js/all-in-one.js is move to mediawiki namespace, then add this script in gadget and allow to sysop, crats, stewards for use on you're preferences.
@MacFan4000, Dmehus, Drummingman, and Justarandomamerican: Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 08:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- I would be fine with adding this as a gadget, but not on the common.js. X (talk + contribs) 10:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- @X: Hello, Well! we have no probelm, If you like more gadgets for use, please see my common. js and this gadget is very helpful, firstly please test this js and then we think what can I do later?.
Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 12:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- This gadget would likely need to be restricted to stewards due to just how powerful it is. Being able to revert all of a users edits, delete all the pages they've created, and block them in one click is simply a lot. X (talk + contribs) 18:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- X, You're right this js script is very powerful Use of this JavaScript should only be allowed by stewards and not allowed to use by any other privileged persons. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 03:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I've commented it out of your common.js page for the moment, as it could cause some serious mayhem if used improperly. Ask me if you need a test performed. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Justarandomamerican Hello, Thank you for removing this script from my common. js, I've already performed the after adding this script on my common. js, I think this js script is more useful for the stewards. Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I've commented it out of your common.js page for the moment, as it could cause some serious mayhem if used improperly. Ask me if you need a test performed. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- X, You're right this js script is very powerful Use of this JavaScript should only be allowed by stewards and not allowed to use by any other privileged persons. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 03:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Replace text
I've used it a lot in the past, and it saved a lot of time. But as of now, it's restricted to stewards. Why's that? Saint (talk) 04:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- It was found that a vandal who gained sysop rights could vandalize the Main Page or similarly important Steward protected pages using ReplaceText. I know it has a lot of utility for you, so feel free to send me a message on my talk page, or Drummingman on his with a request, ensuring that original text, new text, and namespace(s) are provided. Justarandomamerican (talk) 12:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is it possible to allow interface administrators to use it? X (talk + contribs) 13:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I suggested that to MacFan when I originally opened a security task about the issue. Me personally, I think it would be better to create a separate group that's able to use it, as IA is primarily intended to allow editing of script pages, though I am fine with bundling it in to IA (and Stewards) along with creating a separate group. Justarandomamerican (talk) 13:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Is it possible to allow interface administrators to use it? X (talk + contribs) 13:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
'Crat sysop first requirement
@EPIC, X, and DR: as interested persons. Recently, upon DR requesting bureaucrat, they were given it without first being an administrator. EPIC removed the crat right, and X restored it, stating that the requirement was pointless. To prevent a wheel war, I think it's best to set down community consensus on the issue. What do you, the reader, think of the requirement to be a sysop before being a bureaucrat? Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Justarandomamerican: I've support you're thoughts, This is test wiki not Wikipedia, we are here to testing of specific permission, firstly If any new user request for both rights, then firstly grant only sysop permission but not crats, because sysop have more permission on his group, crats is most important permission on the wiki, I don't understand why both user's make editwar in removing or adding crats permission from @DR, who received both permission after reviewing his request by an other crats. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 04:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- I personally think that just like on other test wikis, there should some kind of requirement before being able to request crat, either an edit requirement (maybe something like 10 edits before being able to request bureaucrat would be a fair requirement if so?), or a requirement of a specific amount of days of having sysop before requesting crat (a day or two perhaps), or maybe a mix of both of those requirements.
- The reason I think so is because unlike on other test wikis, the crat permission is quite powerful and can remove both bureaucrat and sysop rights. If it's given very liberally it can be quite dangerous. Now, I know DR from Wikimedia and they are a trusted user who I certainly don't think would abuse the bureaucrat rights, so I have nothing against them having crat. But, I don't have any intents to wheel war, the permissions have been given back and it can remain so. EPIC (talk) 08:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- My intention was also not to wheel war. I know EPIC mentioned some suggestions for "requirements" for the 'crat role. However, as of now, those do not exist, making the rule about being a sysop first pointless. There is some Wikimedia essay about not following the policies if doing so would prevent you from improving the site, but I can't remember what it was titled. X (talk + contribs) 11:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can remove the bureaucrat right from my account since I won’t be using it. I have MediaWiki installed on my local machine for testing purposes, and I already have all the advanced rights there. Here on this test wiki, my goal is to assist others by deploying some important and useful scripts and translating help pages. Initially, I thought that crats have access to grant the interface admin right, but it appears they do not, so I no longer require this role. Could any Steward please grant the interface admin right to my account? I would like to deploy some useful gadgets. Also, for granting requirements, I believe granting the bureaucrat role should be discretionary. DR (talk) 09:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- We should definitely set requirements for gaining crat. It is a powerful position, and any disruptive user can easily misuse it. Since EPIC knew DR , there would not be a problem, but if a random user came and requested sysop and crat, there is a chance of vandalism or disruption. I propose that a user must wait 24 hours and make 10 edits before requesting crat rights Harvici (talk) 06:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's not a terribly powerful position, since it's mostly a testing right, but that being said, it does require an extra degree of trust as it includes extra permissions like
nuke
andimport
, which can cause vandalism that is time consuming to revert if used by unscrupulous actors. Since Justarandomamerican initiated the discussion, I will contribute here and allow Drummingman or MacFan4000 to close. Your suggestion of 10 edits is a good one, but I'd also add a time requirement and would suggest a minimum of a four day wait unless the user previously held user rights here, then the waiting period requirement is waived. We could also add in an alternate pathway to waive the waiting period requirement, such has having a confirmation edit from a mainstream wiki farm (Wikimedia, Fandom, or Miraheze) and being a known user in good standing there. Dmehus (talk) 01:31, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's not a terribly powerful position, since it's mostly a testing right, but that being said, it does require an extra degree of trust as it includes extra permissions like
- It happened to me too! Well, I am already an administrator, but not for 4 days! On the one hand, this guideline is a hindrance for serious users, but what if they are just spammers? Or something similar? One can trust me, but others... Justman10000 (talk) 11:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- You can always ping Stewards to make an exception for yourself. See the list of stewards to know who to ping The AP (talk) 13:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have already said that the user can start requesting crat rights in three days. It seems best to keep it that way. Drummingman (talk) 13:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- You can always ping Stewards to make an exception for yourself. See the list of stewards to know who to ping The AP (talk) 13:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Permission revocation request
Hello, I am currently suffering from high powerful stress which is impairing my ability to work on test wiki and elsewhere, hence, I request the admins of test wiki to please remove my sysop + crats permission on my account, I will try to come back and edit here. Thanks to all the editors of test wiki for giving me a chance to test the tools of sysop and crats and I hope I have not broken any rules and regulations of test wiki.. Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 04:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done — You are free to reapply for user permissions when you return. Drummingman (talk) 08:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Interface Right
Hello everyone, I try to re- modifying Twinkle tool for use, but I don't think Twinkle Tool are working on Test Wiki; If you like I like to fix Twinkle tool for working on Test Wiki, so, I needed, please grant me Interface right for permanently for successfully complete this work. Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 16:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think that for the moment you can rework this script into personal subpages and we will see later about the rights because other interface admins will be able to add it as a gadget.DodoMan (talk) 16:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @DodoMan: Hello, Do you know Twinkle Tool are not currently available in gadgets section and it's subpages are not currently exist here, We recreating those pages and interface admin right are more help to edit and create js pages on Test Wiki.Cheers!~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Aviram7:Yes I know the tool it’s inavailable but you can rework script on your subpages. At worst, I will create these mediawiki pages and rework them with you. And also you need to request rights to Test Wiki:Request Permissions.DodoMan (talk) 17:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @DodoMan: That's Great! well I going to request for Interface permission on request page and try to creating twinkle subpages on userspace and I beleive our hard struggle will be positive result proved.~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- @DodoMan: Hello, Do you know Twinkle Tool are not currently available in gadgets section and it's subpages are not currently exist here, We recreating those pages and interface admin right are more help to edit and create js pages on Test Wiki.Cheers!~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Filter 120
I propose converting it to an abusive username prevention filter. Any objections? Codename Norte 🤔 talk 15:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nope,is good for me.(oh no is my bot account)BotRafdodo (talk) 16:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)~
- None. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Standby... writing the regex... Codename Norte 🤔 talk 02:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- and WHEW!!! Done. Justarandomamerican, you might want to remove the account creation conditions from filter 92 since I implemented them to filter 120. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 03:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Any objections if I set this to disallow? Codename Norte 🤔 talk 01:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- LGTM. I'm not sure the likelihood of LTAs and blocked users trying to use variations of known usernames, but it can't hurt, either. Dmehus (talk) 02:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- No, if there's a helpful message. Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Codename Noreste 🤔 La Suma 02:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Any objections if I set this to disallow? Codename Norte 🤔 talk 01:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- and WHEW!!! Done. Justarandomamerican, you might want to remove the account creation conditions from filter 92 since I implemented them to filter 120. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 03:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Standby... writing the regex... Codename Norte 🤔 talk 02:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Crat requirements's policy
Omnibus RfC: Unbundling abusefilter permissions from Administrators
Umm....
I have another one last account rename request for the stewards: Jody. Saint (talk) 00:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Feel free to come back and request another, within reason. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
One more rename request
I actually intended to put Noreste instead of Norte; therefore, I am requesting a rename to Codename Noreste one last time to match Wikimedia and The Test Wiki. Thank you. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 03:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Request for Block Against Piccadilly
Question
Is thanking a user for an action related to right management considered a logged action? Harvici (talk) 12:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think it would show up in the log (https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:Log?type=thanks&user=&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist), although not list the specific action. Piccadilly (My Contribs | My Messages) 12:48, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
New Template
Hey everyone I recently created a new template "Failed policy" which I moved from my user subpage to the template namespace.This template mainly uses the code already available on English Wikipidea. I think it is uncontroversial, but if you have any suggestions or concerns, please let me know. Harvici (talk) 16:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- I created this template mainly for this policy which clearly failed but the recent nominations of policies like crat policy and abuse-filter policy was also the reason for creation of the template :) Harvici (talk) 16:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Permission revocation request and block request
Can anyone block me (until 5:00 UTC, May 12, 2024) as I have something important coming up and don't want to be distracted and kindly remove my permissions as well Harvici (talk) 15:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Phab help
So,it’s no sending the mail to my email adress.Help.DodoMan (talk) 16:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MacFan4000: I also noticed the feed of recent activity on the homepage wasn't working, so multiple issues seem to be occurring. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Request for NSS: Aviram7
A newsletter?
What do you all think about creating a newsletter that tells you what changes have been made in terms of policies and technical changes and how many new users have been given crat and sysop rights (technically Wikipidea's administrator Newsletter)? Harvici (talk) 16:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support. I think, that would be a good idea. Wüstenspringmaus talk 06:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Question
Is the "pywikibot" directory uploaded to the server? Harvici (talk) 15:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- And is it possible to get shell access? Harvici (talk) 15:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Harvici: No.But you can use https://hub-paws.wmcloud.org/ for testing pwb.DodoMan (talk) 09:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not without becoming a system administrator, no. Justarandomamerican (talk) 15:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Harvici
- User: TheAstorPastor (talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights)
- Requested right: IA
- Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom (optional):
- [Yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies and agree to follow them completely.
- [Yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [Yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments:I am requesting this right to import few gadgets from other wikis and write some gadgets on own.I have experience in Java,Python, a little bit of CSS, and some in JS. I am also testing a bot, which I will include to TestWiki on successful runs, as well as writing scripts for a bot on discord with DodoMan Harvici (talk) 17:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- I can confirm Harvici have the competence for this role.He is dev with me a discord bot to possibly be deployed on the wiki test discord.DodoMan (talk) 17:26, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Justarandomamerican,Dmehus,Drummingman, pinging so they can review my request Harvici (talk) 14:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Granted on probation. This just means that the right may be removed upon request by any bureaucrat in good standing. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Crat policy
Recently Aviram7 granted bureaucrat rights to his friend Rohit, but I removed it as it was a violation of the bureaucrat policy.Aviram7 is a trusted user with advanced rights like IA, and since he knew Rohit personally , I don't think there would be any disruption. Currently, the policy states that a Steward may exempt a user they deem trustworthy from the above requirements
and I propose that it should be changed to A steward or a bureaucrat, as applicable, may exempt a user they deem trustworthy from the above requirements.
Harvici (talk) 17:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- No, I believe it's suitable staying as it is. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 21:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- There are 4 stewards. Ping us to request an exemption. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Justarandomamerican and TheAstorPastor: Hello there, I think it's need to change exemption, so, I request to you please change exemption. Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 02:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Rename request
Can my name be changed to "TheAstorPastor" as I adopted this name at Wikimedia projects and I plan to do so at Miraheze and similarly Harvicibot to APBOT Harvici (talk) 17:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Drummingman,@Justarandomamerican Harvici (talk) 16:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Greetings, Drummingman (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Drummingman, please change the name of the bot. The AP (talk) 05:18, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also done now :). Drummingman (talk) 15:19, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Codename Noreste
Internal error
Hello guys, when you open Newsletter:Administrators' newsletter you will notice an internal error is displayed, Does any one know about this or maybe it is an error developed during the addition of abusefilter groups to LocalSettings.php? The AP (talk) 05:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MacFan4000 ,please look into it The AP (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Very strange. Unfortunately I'm not sure that I can fix it, I'm not seeing anything obvious. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 17:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MacFan4000 I think there is some issue with content serialization.Just check if the Extension:Newsletter is upto date, and if possible, to get more insight to errors, please add the following lines to LocalSettings.php to enable detailed debugging
- $wgShowExceptionDetails = true;
- $wgShowSQLErrors = true;
- $wgDebugDumpSql = true;
- $wgDebugLogFile = "/path/to/debug.log"; The AP (talk) 12:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Very strange. Unfortunately I'm not sure that I can fix it, I'm not seeing anything obvious. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 17:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Suggestions to the abuse filter administrator role and revocation criteria
Since the abuse filter administrator role has so many rights that administrators and stewards already have but the abusefilter-modify-restricted, I suggest we remove every right from that role but keep the abusefilter-modify-restricted right. I would also suggest the following to include the revocation criteria:
- Has a pattern of activating restricted actions without first determining consensus
- The abuse filter administrator fails to exercise sufficient care when creating or modifying filters with restricted actions, resulting in innocent users being blocked or their autoconfirmed rights revoked
Any suggestions in addition to my criteria addition, as well as making the abuse filter page an official policy? Thank you. Codename Noreste 🤔 La Suma 04:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- I am supportive of those revocation criteria being applied in a reviewable manner by individual Stewards. However, I would like to suggest that more information be added to the page before it becomes an official policy/guideline. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think we could let the AFA vote go on for at least a week. Codename Noreste 🤔 La Suma 18:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Rename request
Can someone rename me to Gepard (talk · contribs)? Thanks in advance Wüstenspringmaus talk 12:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done! Justarandomamerican (talk) 15:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Systemadministrator
Request for System administratorship
Inactivity bot
Think about writing one! Should they revoke the permissions directly, or just notify? Justman10000 (talk) 16:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd say it should send notifications to the community portal at first, and upon demonstrating it works, have it make rights temporary when the user will be considered inactive in 2 weeks. Justarandomamerican (talk) 16:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Systemadminstrator... or steward?
When would one be willing to accept me as a system administrator? I would be extremely unhappy to have to work for many months, a year or more! And would I have to become a steward first? Or could I be nominated and elected directly as a system administrator! Actually, the work itself says something about someone! Not the duration of the work Justman10000 (talk) 18:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- This is probably due to your account age, and please do not take this for granted, but your suitability to those high-trust roles (non-test roles) are what might concern me. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 18:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why? I mean, rejecting someone just because their account is too young... Actions are what define one, not the duration of one's collaboration Justman10000 (talk) 18:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- System administrators can shut down the wiki at any time they please. They can also make decisions such as amending the privacy policy or blocking entire IP addresses from even being able to access the site. For this reason, the community wants to see quality and quantity of contributions from prospective system administrators. The same goes for prospective members of any non-test role that can make major decisions, such as AFAs and Stewards. Justarandomamerican (talk) 19:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- And how old should an account be? Justman10000 (talk) 18:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Anywhere between 8 months to a year at least. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 19:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- How did you come up with exactly 8? Could be only 6 or 5 too Justman10000 (talk) 22:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- So, how about this, I recommend you have between 7 and 12 months of activity at least and know how to use PHP, Git, and SSH, and also recommend getting a Github account and sign in to it. If you don't have a Github account, you can register a Github account. I would also recommend to be active on the Wiki and be an administrator or bureaucrat and suggest for the best experience before system administrator, I would at least recommend requesting Steward permissions and also get a server from Linux Debian, MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, or SQLite and have an understanding of it. To be a Steward you can have at least 5 or 6 months of activity at least. I suggest you also have an understanding of Apache HTTP Server. Please read and heed any advice you need. Thanks. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 14:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- As I said, I've been working with Linux Debian for over 4 years! So I'm already familiar with everything mentioned! I've also had a GitHub account for years!
- And do I have to wait the 7-12 months AFTER my successful election as a steward, or just add the rest from the 4-5 months after the steward election? Justman10000 (talk) 15:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, you just joined late. In addition, I should say that you are too new there for Steward or System Administrator privileges. However, according to ChatGPT:
- "Yes, MediaWiki supports Linux Debian Server. MediaWiki, the software that powers Wikipedia, is designed to run on a variety of operating systems, including Linux. Debian, a popular Linux distribution, is well-suited for running MediaWiki due to its stability, security, and robust package management system."
- It is OK to use Linux Debian there on MediaWiki, but learn how to use Git, PHP, and SSH and also be active on this wiki. Please read and heed any advice. Thanks. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 20:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- I know that MediaWiki also runs on Linux Debian? Huh? You indicated yourself that test wiki runs on a Linux Debian machine? And as I said, I already understand all mentioned Justman10000 (talk) 06:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, yep. Kinda so, according to ChatGPT. Just wait a few months and be active enough to become system administrator. You know? I'm not a system administrator either! Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 20:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- But I am sorry, Justman10000, this is a high trust role. Try again next time... Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 20:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't want to say that, but somehow... you're playing yourself up Justman10000 (talk) 08:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I know that MediaWiki also runs on Linux Debian? Huh? You indicated yourself that test wiki runs on a Linux Debian machine? And as I said, I already understand all mentioned Justman10000 (talk) 06:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- So, how about this, I recommend you have between 7 and 12 months of activity at least and know how to use PHP, Git, and SSH, and also recommend getting a Github account and sign in to it. If you don't have a Github account, you can register a Github account. I would also recommend to be active on the Wiki and be an administrator or bureaucrat and suggest for the best experience before system administrator, I would at least recommend requesting Steward permissions and also get a server from Linux Debian, MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, or SQLite and have an understanding of it. To be a Steward you can have at least 5 or 6 months of activity at least. I suggest you also have an understanding of Apache HTTP Server. Please read and heed any advice you need. Thanks. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 14:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- How did you come up with exactly 8? Could be only 6 or 5 too Justman10000 (talk) 22:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Anywhere between 8 months to a year at least. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 19:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why? I mean, rejecting someone just because their account is too young... Actions are what define one, not the duration of one's collaboration Justman10000 (talk) 18:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
It's real, not fake. And for true, only 1 is currently system administrator. However, this makes no flexibility for a regular steward to be flexible with a user that jumped from being a non-steward to a system administrator. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 12:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd like to clarify that this is a test wiki, which means that anyone can experiment with MediaWiki functionality here. Within this space, users can request various permissions except for sys admin and steward, specifically for testing purposes. Sys admin and steward rights are crucial for the smooth operation of this wiki and are not intended for testing purposes. Steward rights are granted to users who invest significant time here, and the community trusts their judgment for sensitive actions. Similarly, the system admin right is not given out for testing; it's essential for maintaining the wiki's smooth functioning. At the moment, we have one sys admin diligently fulfilling their duties. Should the need arise, the community or founder can nominate trusted and technically proficient users to take up the sys admin role. I hope this clarifies things. DR (talk) 13:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, this is correct, as gaining sysop and bureaucrat rights and being active for the wiki is the minimum for Steward or System Administrator rights, with additional System Administrators requiring know how to use PHP, Git, SSH, recommended MySQL, MariaDB, Linux Debian, SQLite, PostgreSQL, Apache, Github, and Phabricator and gaining Steward rights. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 13:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nothing I didn't already know Justman10000 (talk) 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- What does that have to do with my comment? Justman10000 (talk) 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Involving the user rights for you. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Justman10000: I would like you to respond and reply here. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 15:45, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I still have no idea what you're talking about Justman10000 (talk) 16:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Justman10000: Here's the deal, you may have at least 7 months of activity and be active on this wiki to meet this criteria. You already meet other criteria, but I recommend yourself being a steward first. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 17:31, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I still have no idea what you're talking about Justman10000 (talk) 16:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Justman10000: I would like you to respond and reply here. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 15:45, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Involving the user rights for you. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Nominating Drummingman for system adminship
Wiki changes to propose upcoming
In the next few days somehow, I will post a bulk inserting of wiki changes here on the community portal. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 00:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Help to make an icon
Can anyone make a user icon for system administrator? As I am not good in that stuff and I need the icon to be added to the newsletters, I'm pinging @Codename Noreste as he previously updated some icons The AP (talk) 14:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- We could make it together. So what do we think? Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 15:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- GIMP or Inkspace can be very useful for this kind of work. LisafBia (talk) 15:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have Canva, so I will make the logo shortly. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 06:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Done! I uploaded File:TW-Sysadmin.png. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 06:38, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have Canva, so I will make the logo shortly. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 06:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Question
Do I have to pass a vote at the community portal for requesting bureaucrat rights? Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 12:08, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- No. You need Steward approval, or have consensus here for your rights to be reinstated. Justarandomamerican (talk) 15:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I requested rights below. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 20:17, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Discord error
I joined the Discord yesterday but couldn't verify (see image). Could someone take a look? Thanks. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 03:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Wait a little bit or try to refresh (especially if taking indefinitely long), if still not working, check your Discord settings, and then try to refresh again, if not repeat this cycle until you believe the Discord settings are correct, then if it still happens, check your browser settings and refresh, repeat this cycle, if it is not clear your cache, and if still not working try to restart your computer Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 14:29, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is already fixed by me. Greetings Drummingman (talk) 19:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for fixing this. CanonNi, try to refresh tab. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 01:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, got it working. Thanks, both of you. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:27, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for fixing this. CanonNi, try to refresh tab. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 01:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is already fixed by me. Greetings Drummingman (talk) 19:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Consensus for Extension:NewUserMessage
Suggestion
Hey everyone, I've noticed that in the navigation section of the main menu on the left side, there's a link to test pages that redirects to a category of test pages. Instead of linking to the category, I suggest we create a list of test pages and include a one-line description for each page. This would be more helpful for new users. The AP (talk) 15:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC)