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Proposal to upload higher quality user rights icons
I am proposing to update the user right icons to their higher quality versions. Anybody has opinions or concerns? Thanks. – 64andtim (talk) 23:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Seems fairly uncontroversial, go ahead.
X (talk) 12:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Done. – 64andtim (talk) 17:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, much better. X (talk) 23:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Faulty wikilink
On Test Wiki:Bureaucrats, it says "Bureaucrat rights are required for any user seeking to gain system administrator, suppressor, or steward".
However, there seems to be a problem with the "system administrator" wikilink on that page - instead it leads me to Test Wiki:Suppressors. What could be the problem here? I don't know if I exclusively have this issue, or if it is the same for all users. EPIC (talk) 15:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed. X (talk) 15:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Comment: Also, found the issue; both links had <tvar name=SA> at the beginning. EPIC (talk) 17:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)- This fix seems to have removed the MyLanguage variable entirely, I have instead specified another variable. Thanks for the temp fix, Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
EPIC
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Done. Justarandomamerican (talk) 15:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- User: EPIC (talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights)
- Requested right: Non-steward suppressor
- Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom (optional): meta:User:EPIC
- [yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies and agree to follow them completely.
- [yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: Hello there! Might seem odd, but now that our first non-steward suppressor has been chosen, I would like to offer my help and assist as the second one. I'm willing to help with suppression when needed, and I am available/contactable at most times of the day. I go by the same username on the Wikimedia projects, where I am an administrator at two larger wikis, and I have experience with handling sensitive information as a member of the Wikimedia VRT. Beforehand I have read Test Wiki:Suppressors, and the privacy policy. Also courtesy pinging @Justarandomamerican: and @Drummingman:. EPIC (talk) 00:14, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Just in case, I have made a confirmation edit on Wikimedia: see here EPIC (talk) 00:17, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Neutral Though you are a perfectly qualified candidate, I'd like to see the answer to one question, can you explain the need for another suppressor? There are currently 3 active people who are able to handle suppression. If there's a good need, I'll be supporting, as more than qualified! Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)- Hello Justarandomamerican! There isn't necessarily the need, but it gives additional value, especially since two of the current stewards are less active, and as mentioned a bit further up, also gives different hours of coverage. FYI, my mainly available times are at most hours within the UTC+1 time zone (since I'm quite a night owl) with the exception for the early morning hours, and I regularly check my mail inbox, so I'm able to quickly act when needed. So, I am of course aware that this is not a role for testing, and I hope my answer is sufficient - feel free to ask further questions if needed. EPIC (talk) 09:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Addition: If both stewards choose to approve this, I would suggest also checking that X is not completely against this :) EPIC (talk) 15:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Justarandomamerican! There isn't necessarily the need, but it gives additional value, especially since two of the current stewards are less active, and as mentioned a bit further up, also gives different hours of coverage. FYI, my mainly available times are at most hours within the UTC+1 time zone (since I'm quite a night owl) with the exception for the early morning hours, and I regularly check my mail inbox, so I'm able to quickly act when needed. So, I am of course aware that this is not a role for testing, and I hope my answer is sufficient - feel free to ask further questions if needed. EPIC (talk) 09:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral, leaning oppose. Well qualified on other wikis, but has only had an account here for about a month. Also not sure if we need another but I can be swayed. X (talk) 01:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- After considering the comments of both stewards, I still think I am going to stand at neutral (leaning oppose). They're no doubt qualified, but the 1 month of having an account is simply a deal breaker for me. :) X (talk) 23:54, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Support I don't see much harm in you being given the tools purely to have an extra suppressor available. Perfectly qualified. However, the lack of time spent here is a bit concerning to me. Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)- Support leaning neutral, I don't really have any objections, but think a month is a bit early. I do take note that EPIC has applied to be a steward on Wikimedia, if he is elected, it could be an advantage in fighting cross-wiki vandalism. Drummingman (talk) 15:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- I am also curious how this will turn out. If it is successful, it will likely also take most of EPIC's time. X (talk) 16:23, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- I will see how it goes, but I hope to be able to split my activity between different wikis like I've been able to so far, and I should be able to work it out - and if not, I would of course be removed for inactivity per Test Wiki policy. Either way, right now this is mostly depending on Justarandomamerican, so I suggest pending his reply to begin with. If this is successful I do of course plan to take it easy at first, and ask a steward if in doubt. EPIC (talk) 17:14, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Per above. AlPaD (talk) 19:37, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- At the moment, there seems to be a weak consensus. Relisting. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:19, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- There are two weak supports, one regular support, and one neutral. Averaging this out gets you around a roughly 75% support ratio. (S = 100, WS = 75, N = 50, WO = 25, O = 0) X (talk) 00:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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Clearly define suppression criteria in policy
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On hold for internal discussion Justarandomamerican (talk) 02:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Resolved. Justarandomamerican (talk) 02:15, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Steward-defined suppression practices seems to have only worked in the past when only stewards and sysadmins had access to the tool, but it seems to only lead to inner confusion now that non-Stewards can have access to the bit. Therefore, there needs to be a set of clearly defined suppression criteria. Perhaps we could base these off The Test Wiki? Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
@Dmehus and Saint:Your input is invited. Justarandomamerican (talk) 02:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)- There is simply a disagreement on how to define serious vandalism. We have no disagreements with PII, copyright, and other suppressible edits. I don't see how using The Test Wiki's criteria would help at all as it doesn't address this. I don't see why there isn't simply an internal discussion about the definition. X (talk) 02:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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RFC: Redo suppression page
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I propose replacing Test Wiki:Suppressors with User:X/Suppression guide. Let me know your thoughts. X (talk + contribs) 12:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- LGTM. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:48, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Great, super happy to hear that. Glad we could come to a consensus. @Drummingman just verifying that you're okay with this? X (talk + contribs) 14:50, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm okay with it. :) Drummingman (talk) 17:00, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Great, super happy to hear that. Glad we could come to a consensus. @Drummingman just verifying that you're okay with this? X (talk + contribs) 14:50, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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Sav
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Not done as there is a lack of consensus amongst the stewards and community. Thank you, Sav, for applying. X (talk + contribs) 14:11, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- User: Sav (talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights)
- Requested right: Non-steward suppressor
- Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom (optional): N/A
- [Yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies and agree to follow them completely.
- [Yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [Yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: As a trusted and well-known user within the Test Wiki space, I believe I am qualified to be the next Non-steward suppressor. I believe being granted Non-steward suppressor would help X and the Steward team with lessening the load of work they may have to do in the future. As I live in the UK, I would be able to actively provide suppressions without compromising privacy. Please feel free to ask questions below. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 21:32, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Sav! One question that I assume the stewards will ask is this: Do you feel there is sufficient need for another NSS, given that we currently have three active and one pending application? X (talk) 23:06, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, X. As stated, this RfP is for Non-steward suppressor. I shall assume that is what you meant. I do feel there is sufficient need for another Non-steward suppressor due to the fact that having those with said rights from multiple timezones, is better than having a few all in the same. Regards, Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 23:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that is what I mean't. facepalm. X (talk) 23:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification, X. My above statement remains valid then. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 23:46, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that is what I mean't. facepalm. X (talk) 23:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, X. As stated, this RfP is for Non-steward suppressor. I shall assume that is what you meant. I do feel there is sufficient need for another Non-steward suppressor due to the fact that having those with said rights from multiple timezones, is better than having a few all in the same. Regards, Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 23:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello! Just a quick question: Will you take long hiatuses in the future? Thanks, Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Justarandomamerican. I do not plan or see myself taking a long hiatus in the near future. As of now, I plan to be active. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 00:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Oppose I don't think we need a new non steward supressor. LisafBia (talk) 16:35, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, @LisafBia:. Can you elaborate on why you think The Test Wiki doesn't need a new non steward supressor? As far as I know, there is only 1 and that is X. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 15:07, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Considering that the Stewards also have Supress authority, there are 5 suppressors in total and most of them are active. Therefore we don't need a new supressor. LisafBia (talk) 15:25, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Dmehus
- Macfan
- X
- Justarandomamerican
- Drummingman
- Dmehus
- Is the current list. X (talk + contribs) 16:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, X. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 16:31, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Considering that the Stewards also have Supress authority, there are 5 suppressors in total and most of them are active. Therefore we don't need a new supressor. LisafBia (talk) 15:25, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, @LisafBia:. Can you elaborate on why you think The Test Wiki doesn't need a new non steward supressor? As far as I know, there is only 1 and that is X. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 15:07, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Weak oppose, for the moment, we have enough active suppressors with the recent appointment of EPIC. Justarandomamerican (talk) 15:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your explanation. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 18:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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Name Change Requests
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Done
Hi, could my name here be changed to Fullegente please? It's a name I've begun using elsewhere, such as Filmpedia and Wikimedia, and I'd like it to be my name here as well, as it's more unique than Piccadilly. Thank you! Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 15:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello, stewards. I would appreciate if you could also change my username to Saint. Thank you! Username (talk) 20:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Drummingman (talk) 20:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Can I be renamed to Fullegente please? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 20:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- On hold -- For this request, I would like responses from other fellow stewards and users. And specifically whether any objections. Drummingman (talk) 21:11, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Just curious, why does my request need other opinions while Saint's didn't? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- That specifically has to do with your past here and that you have already been renamed several times. I think it is prudent that the community here can give his/her opinion, if there are no significant objections then I or another steward will rename you. Meanwhile, I ask if you will wait patiently? Greetings, Drummingman (talk) 21:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I will wait patiently. And I won't ask for anymore renames after this one. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm. @Drummingman I'd say rename her once she gains enough trust to become a bureaucrat per the off-wiki discussion. X (talk + contribs) 21:32, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I will wait patiently. And I won't ask for anymore renames after this one. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- That specifically has to do with your past here and that you have already been renamed several times. I think it is prudent that the community here can give his/her opinion, if there are no significant objections then I or another steward will rename you. Meanwhile, I ask if you will wait patiently? Greetings, Drummingman (talk) 21:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think it’s OK that Piccadilly should have her username changed in this moment as well. Saint (talk) 21:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with X. Piccadilly should wait until enough trust has been built via either achieving Bureaucrat or Administrator rights before requesting a rename. Given how they request one after every unblock, seems to me like they are trying to hide the past events. Regards, Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 00:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC).
- Just curious, why does my request need other opinions while Saint's didn't? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Can I be renamed to Fullegente please? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 20:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Since I'm an admin now and I believe I've been responsible so far with that, can I be renamed now please? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 17:05, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: Renaming you whilst you are restricted may cause confusion. Justarandomamerican (talk) 19:37, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- +1, also considering that Piccadilly just recently used a sock account on Wikimedia with the same talk page creation pattern as shown here. No objections to renaming when trust is regained, though. EPIC (talk) 20:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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Proposal to delete example user right
I created a Phabricator request. (T89). Saint (talk) 05:56, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Zippybonzo's ban
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For context, this user was banned by the community for cross-wiki abuse on a wiki whose owner has apparently engaged in a deception campaign against their own volunteers: "The ban is not required as firstly, I don't think that actions on other wikis require blocks/bans everywhere, and secondly, the owner of said wiki was found to be abusing on their wiki and deceiving their own stewards. Hence why I believe my ban should be lifted." Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:18, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
- Support unban: It's no longer even possible to prove he committed the alleged actions, and even if he did, it's not worthy of a community ban or block because no off-wiki harassment has occurred. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:21, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support as well. I agree that one's actions on one wiki shouldn't lead to sanctions everywhere. Plus, the other wiki involved is no longer functional, and I think he should be given another chance. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 20:31, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps if Zippybonzo is unblocked, it might help to havr an interaction ban between him and Cocopuff? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 15:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support per both statements above. Saint (talk) 20:57, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support --PB2008 (talk) 00:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Strongest oppose there is soo many reasons for me to go on and on about zippy, however i will try to stay as breif as i can, while you may think his actions should Not carry over i believe it should in the past he has told users to go raid a wiki link here, and has also raided a wiki while being a system admin in the past with inappropriate images Ruining the wiki link here and link 2 with this all being said zippy has recently abused multiple accounts on the wiki farm filmpedia.us and his actions are being ignored while everyone believes im responsible for sockpuppeting, (False) you are claiming zippy is all innocent and im not, i must also mention that user agent isnt always accurate and therefore the proof against me is hereby invalid please see this link for more information i will also mention zippy in the past has also said he was gonna invoice me for the work he has done after no longer being a system admin which was volunteer work he has also, threaten to take me to court in dms. zippybonzo has also manipulated globe AKA X many times recently zippy requested a link to the filmpedia discord server which being banned and has sent multiple accounts into the server spamming it. he has also posted nonsense into the server, and the server link was once again provided by globe by his request WHile of course user agent might not be valid proof i still have a reason to beleve zippy is behind the multiple accounts used to sock the wiki including "Coconutworst owner" and a few others i wont mention at this time, with all this being said zippy is the only user with a negative opinion towards me as a owner of filmpedia.us and therefore is a valid reason for me to believe he is behind the sockpuppeting of filmpedia.us and his other actions. i wouldn't recommend unblocking his account at all. nor would i recommenced or trust him for any user rights --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 14:48, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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Oppose Per Cocopuff's comments. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 15:01, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Sav. As a former steward and checker on Filmpedia, I can confirm that Cocopuff is behind all of the socking on his own wiki. He has a history of doing so on Miraheze as well. It is true, though, that Zippy did troll the wiki, but that was months ago and only because he wanted to give cocopuff a "taste of his own medicine." I say this not to justify Zippy's actions, but to provide some context to them. X (talk + contribs) 15:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Once again user agent is always accurate and you can't just believe what someonr says without proof @X Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:38, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Fyi I didn't troll my own wiki if you are gonna say zippys proof isnt valid than nor is mine also tast of my own medicine isn't a valid reason for what he did Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:39, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nor is it an excuse you just believe whatever someone tells you without valid proof Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:41, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I could show proof, but that would involve leaking both of your UAs & IP addresses, which I will not do. I would disagree that it "isn't a valid reason" because you literally did the same thing to your own wiki. I also have screenshots of you calling Zippy racial slurs. X (talk + contribs) 15:42, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I don't really care again user agent Isnt valid proof you are also banned from filmpedis netwotk for what you did in the server, I'm not commenting anymore on this my vote stays the same youve done what zippy told you what to do multiple times this isn't the first time Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:51, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I could show proof, but that would involve leaking both of your UAs & IP addresses, which I will not do. I would disagree that it "isn't a valid reason" because you literally did the same thing to your own wiki. I also have screenshots of you calling Zippy racial slurs. X (talk + contribs) 15:42, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nor is it an excuse you just believe whatever someone tells you without valid proof Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:41, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Fyi I didn't troll my own wiki if you are gonna say zippys proof isnt valid than nor is mine also tast of my own medicine isn't a valid reason for what he did Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:39, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I do understand your points and would like to discuss this further via a private conversation on Discord. Could you please send my account, brelade, a direct message. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 15:48, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Sav user agent isn't valid see the link I posted from Google Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- "I'm not commenting anymore" X (talk + contribs) 15:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- You know you are gonna be blacklisted if you share the ips @X Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nervous your socking will be discovered? Also, I just said above "I could show proof, but that would involve leaking both of your UAs & IP addresses, which I will not do. " X (talk + contribs) 15:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm never giving you perms again @X Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- If u do it Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm never giving you perms again @X Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nervous your socking will be discovered? Also, I just said above "I could show proof, but that would involve leaking both of your UAs & IP addresses, which I will not do. " X (talk + contribs) 15:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- You know you are gonna be blacklisted if you share the ips @X Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- "I'm not commenting anymore" X (talk + contribs) 15:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Sav user agent isn't valid see the link I posted from Google Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Once again user agent is always accurate and you can't just believe what someonr says without proof @X Cocopuff2018 (talk) 15:38, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Sav. As a former steward and checker on Filmpedia, I can confirm that Cocopuff is behind all of the socking on his own wiki. He has a history of doing so on Miraheze as well. It is true, though, that Zippy did troll the wiki, but that was months ago and only because he wanted to give cocopuff a "taste of his own medicine." I say this not to justify Zippy's actions, but to provide some context to them. X (talk + contribs) 15:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support - After communication between X and myself, it is clear that Zippybonzo deserves a second chance. I have striked my initial vote and I agree with revoking the ban on Zippybonzo. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 18:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Done -- By concensus, Drummingman (talk) 19:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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Should this account perhaps also be unblocked now that the owner is unbanned? Asking as the block is a steward action. EPIC (talk) 18:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed. Done, Thanks for the notification. Drummingman (talk) 18:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of EPIC for Stewardship
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- Unsuccessful: Firstly, I would like to thank the participants for voting. Looking at the results, I see 1 weak support and 2 normal support. 2 votes against and 1 neutral. The general consensus is that EPIC can be trusted as a Wikimedia-steward, but that the nomination is actually too early, since the user has only been active here for a relatively short time, and we already have enough stewards. In short, no consensus to promote. Drummingman (talk) 15:11, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to introduce a candidate for the Steward tools, EPIC. Already a member of our suppression team and a Wikimedia Steward, I believe he could use the extra tools to combat long-term and cross-wiki abuse, especially where that same abuse is occurring on Wikimedia projects. Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:49, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the trust and for the nomination! I have acknowledged it, and will add that I am currently thinking about it, and will come back in a short while for my final decision. EPIC (talk) 11:28, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- It's my pleasure to introduce you for consideration. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:33, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: OK, I have been thinking about this for quite a while. I am a little hesitant, considering we do have two active stewards for the moment. But OK, I am here regularly and I do already have CheckUser access on Wikimedia Login Wiki as part of my steward role, and access to other steward tools which are also included in the toolkit here on Test Wiki. So, with some hesitation, but also with pleasure, I accept. EPIC (talk) 13:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Discussion:
- Support EPIC is quite trusted. But given the active stewards, I don't think a steward is needed for now, but still support. LisafBia (talk) 16:32, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support as nom. Justarandomamerican (talk) 13:54, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- I support him becoming a steward. I think he'll do a great job. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 14:00, 29 February 2024 (UTC) copied from talk page by Justarandomamerican (talk)
- Oppose. The same comments I left in the NSS request still apply. The user still has a relatively short tenure. Our four current stewards have been active members of the wiki for 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, and 8 years. EPIC has been a user of TestWiki for around two months. I do not feel that this is near enough time to gain access to our most advanced toolkit, especially checkuser tools. If the user wasn't a Wikimedia steward, I doubt this request would have any chance of succeeding because of all of these reasons. I also have concerns about how active the candidate will be now that they have large responsibilities at Wikimedia. I find it unwise to apply two high level permissions at almost the same time without knowing how much time you will have to fulfill both duties. Lastly, I don't find the reasoning (combat crosswise abuse) to be persuasive because we only have one LTA here, Piccidally, who is currently not fully blocked. For all of these reasons, I am opposed. Best of luck. X (talk + contribs) 14:20, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- I do agree with these concerns, and would probably not have applied for this myself (it's also why I was a tiny bit hesitant). In this case one of the stewards had endorsed the request, and I have used some of the steward tools, which is why I accepted. Regarding the activity concern I'm here every now and then and I mostly see this as a side wiki (just like Drummingman is a sysop at nlwiki while being a steward here). EPIC (talk) 16:04, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. As it's been said many times before "we do not need another Steward". You are new to this wiki and only just been granted NSS. We have active Stewards that have made a name for themself over the span of multiple years. EPIC has been active for roughly 2 months. Good luck! Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 14:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral, given the supporting/opposing votes happening. You are trusted, but since you're around a couple of months, I decided to remain neutral for these reasons. – 64andtim 🤔 (problem?) 22:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Quite honestly, there's a perfect balance of argument strength between support and oppose; both sides have a point. This is likely to be closed as no consensus to promote. I think the lack of history on this specific wiki can be forgiven due to them being a Wikimedia Steward, but others may not think the same.Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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Discussion on a potential username policy
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- Done. X (talk + contribs) 11:36, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
What does everyone think of this? Justarandomamerican (talk) 16:51, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good, but we could add a list of what is and what is not allowed, and could use some better formatting. Also, we have a filter that warns users creating accounts with misleading usernames. – 64andtim 🤔 (problem?) 05:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- List is done. Any suggestions for formatting? Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've fixed the formatting up a bit based on intuition. Any other suggestions? Justarandomamerican (talk) 02:04, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- LGTM X (talk + contribs) 02:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- List is
- I have made a change that does not allow "Usernames that contain any non-public, private, or personally identifiable information about another person or contain any other information that would be deemed appropriate for suppression." Harvici (talk) 06:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Adoption discussion
As a policy, this would practically just codify community norms around usernames. I propose (and support) adopting this as policy. Justarandomamerican (talk) 02:20, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support. X (talk + contribs) 14:28, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think it is necessary at the moment, but it can still be given a chance. LisafBia (talk) 15:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Harvici (talk) 06:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Rename request from 64andtim to Codename Norte
I am requesting a rename from 64andtim to Codename Norte, and 64andsomeone to Códigonombre Alguien to match the same usernames on Wikimedia; these usernames also look better. Thank you. – 64andtim 🤔 (problem?) 18:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Rename Request: Piccadilly to Fullegente
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- Not done Piccadilly will not be renamed at this time. X (talk + contribs) 18:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I would like my name to be changed to Fullegente, as that is the name I use in several online games and some other online communities. This will be my last rename request here, as I am aware that I have changed my name a few times here already. Thank you! Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 12:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose That username was used by a LTA on EnWiki and then locked for XWiki abuse, see [1], presumably you, since you claim to be Skiyomi who is WMF Banned. You don't need to change your name again. Seawolf35 (talk) 15:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I did use that name on Wikimedia (and yes I am Skiyomi), but I'm not sure what my status there has to do with matters here. As long as I behave myself here, I don't think that's relevant. And like I said, this will be my last rename request here. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 15:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral due to Seawolf35's concern, but as long as you don't violate your one-strike rule, no issues here. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 16:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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Need for new system administrator
As we presently only have 1 system administrator, I encourage anyone who would meet the technical requirements to be a system administrator to apply here on the community portal. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:07, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I know I'm nowhere near active enough, and I don't know any PHP, but, out of curiosity, what exactly is the role of a system administrator here? Sneezless (talk) 19:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Dear, @MacFan4000 can you tell about your work here? Drummingman (talk) 19:36, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sysadmins are responsible for keeping mediawiki up to date, installing extensions and skins, and maintaining the linux server that Test Wiki runs on. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 15:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Dear, @MacFan4000 can you tell about your work here? Drummingman (talk) 19:36, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Considering this is a small Wiki, wouldn't one SysAdmin be fine? Harvici (talk) 23:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- One is actually not enough because you are dependent on one person, which is very undesirable, vulnerable and also potentially dangerous if that person leaves or is inactive for a while, you have no one else. So, a second one is very desirable. Drummingman (talk) 16:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Harvici, it is as Drummingman eloquently communicates above. Having a second system administrator would serve many useful functions, such as redundancy and utility. Justarandomamerican (talk) 02:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I now understand the need of another System administrator Harvici (talk) 06:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Template Merge
Good morning, everyone!
I'd like to propose turning User:Sav/Wikibreak into a fully-fledged template. I've invested about a day refining it to better suit The Test Wiki and its needs. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 00:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I will do it. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 01:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- It was for a vote, to see what everyones opinions would be. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 03:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I meant that I will implement this if there are no objections, to clarify. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 04:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- It was for a vote, to see what everyones opinions would be. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 03:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, why not? Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'm going to fine tune the documentation for this wiki also. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 01:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done (Wikibreak) Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 01:29, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'm going to fine tune the documentation for this wiki also. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 01:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Proposal: Reduce non-system administrator steward inactivity period
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- Activity requirement increased. X (talk + contribs) 01:32, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
With the ability of any Steward to use CheckUser, a year is much too long for one to be inactive. Therefore, I propose the following: 1. Non system administrator stewards' maximum inactivity period is reduced to 6 months. 2. The 1 hour reclamation of rights period is increased to 3 days (72 hours). Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:37, 8 March 2024 (UTC) partially withdrawn 03:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - This makes a lot more sense. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 02:56, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have removed proposal 2. Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. As such, I now Support. X (talk + contribs) 03:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. As such, I now
- Comment: What is the difference between Non System administrator's steward and just a steward Harvici (talk) 23:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- The former is a steward who is not a system administrator. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have much experience here, but why should the inactivity period for only non-Sys admins change and not for Sys admins? Since both of them have checkuser Harvici (talk) 06:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- That has to do with the fact that we have, only, 1 System Administrator. Drummingman (talk) 15:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have much experience here, but why should the inactivity period for only non-Sys admins change and not for Sys admins? Since both of them have checkuser Harvici (talk) 06:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- The former is a steward who is not a system administrator. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Harvici (talk) 17:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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Discussion on a potential Signature policy
As there is a discussion on a potential username policy, I thought this would be the perfect time to get through a potential signature policy. Please feel free to add your own suggestions. Harvici (talk) 06:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Seems unnecessary. We haven't had signature issues with people ever. Appears to be a solution looking for a problem. X (talk + contribs) 01:42, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- X, you hit the nail on the head. Nobody has been blocked due to a signature issue, or even approached and warned about one. People have been blocked for having usernames like those in the username policy. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not done. X (talk + contribs) 11:44, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- X, you hit the nail on the head. Nobody has been blocked due to a signature issue, or even approached and warned about one. People have been blocked for having usernames like those in the username policy. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Question
How to get translate admin right?
Thanks
Rafdodo (talk) 18:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Rafdodo: Welcome to Test Wiki! The translate administrator right is bundled into the administrator group. You automatically have its rights. Justarandomamerican (talk) 18:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Error in filter
What I was trying to do: Hi, I was trying to create my user page... What message I received: Error SilverTester (talk) 02:10, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Disabled until a user more experienced with filters can assist. X (talk + contribs) 02:24, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Now actually fixed. X (talk + contribs) 01:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Now actually
Help
I’m Rafdodo but a2f not work.CAN I havé my privileges?Rafdodohelp (talk) 11:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- I can confirm I operate this account.Rafdodotestacc (talk) 11:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done - but note that BotRafdodo (talk · contribs) still has crat/admin rights. EPIC (talk) 12:03, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please stop I re-have access!!!!Rafdodo (talk) 12:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- It’s not April fool,I’ve re-forgot access.Rafdodohelp (talk) 12:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please stop I re-have access!!!!Rafdodo (talk) 12:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Rename request
Can you rename me to DodoMan?Rafdodohelp (talk)1 Rafdodohelp (talk) 12:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Note that the links above no longer work, as no redirects have been created. Justarandomamerican (talk) 12:37, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please rename my account pls.Rafdodo (talk) 12:40, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- I presume you'd like me to reverse the rename on your alternate account and rename yours to the name mentioned above? Justarandomamerican (talk) 12:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes.Rafdodo (talk) 12:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Justarandomamerican (talk) 12:46, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oh m’y god,I’ve re-forgot access.Please rename me.Rafdodohelp (talk) 12:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Your main account has been renamed as you requested. Try to use your password and a 2FA scratch or regular code with the username DodoMan. Justarandomamerican (talk) 12:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have already tried.Rafdodohelp (talk) 13:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done, then. Justarandomamerican (talk) 13:05, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Can I have rights?DodoMan (talk) 13:07, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have already tried.Rafdodohelp (talk) 13:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Your main account has been renamed as you requested. Try to use your password and a 2FA scratch or regular code with the username DodoMan. Justarandomamerican (talk) 12:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oh m’y god,I’ve re-forgot access.Please rename me.Rafdodohelp (talk) 12:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes.Rafdodo (talk) 12:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- I presume you'd like me to reverse the rename on your alternate account and rename yours to the name mentioned above? Justarandomamerican (talk) 12:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please rename my account pls.Rafdodo (talk) 12:40, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
