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Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to all those here at The Test Wiki.
Have a wonderful day and all the best for 2024!
Lots of love, Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 17:51, 24 December 2023 (UTC).
userRightsManager gadget is broken
I tried to approve a user's permission request with the userRightsManager gadget and found that the gadget is not working properly. Can the interface administrators fix this issue? LisafBia (talk) 19:07, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've reviewed the code and tested the script. It appears to be working for me. Could you please provide more details on what isn't working for you? X (talk) 14:20, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Fixed, the move to Request for permissions broke the script initially. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Makes sense, thanks for the fix. X (talk) 14:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Request for Suppressor right
I request oversight rights from our community for 2 days. I will only use it for testing and I promise not to compromise anyone's privacy. LisafBia (talk) 21:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Not done as suppressor is not a test right and will not be given to those who are not stewards or community elected non-steward suppressors, for obvious privacy concerns. X (talk) 19:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- One question: as the suppressor right isn't a test right, is the non-steward suppressor right also a non-test right? – 64andtim (talk) 20:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed. And therefore it is not meant to be tested. It is meant only for serious suppression.
- The user right is not intended as a test flag like most roles here. It is intended only for serious suppression. System administrator, steward, checkuser, suppressor and non-steward suppressor are emphatically not test roles. Drummingman (talk) 20:25, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Interface admin is also somewhere in the middle. It isn't a testing right, but some people do use it for that. X (talk) 20:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- One question: as the suppressor right isn't a test right, is the non-steward suppressor right also a non-test right? – 64andtim (talk) 20:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
My IA right
Could a steward remove my IA permission, please? Thanks a lot, and goodbye! Username (talk) 06:23, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Dear, @Username
Done. Thank you for your edits, we look forward to seeing you again. Kind regards, Drummingman (talk) 10:21, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
I thought I was ready to go. But I guess I feel like staying longer considering I've worked so hard on keeping this wiki organized, and I have left some things that have yet to look completed. Can somebody grant me my rights back, please? Thank you! Username (talk) 21:43, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Saint: I have granted you back the crat and admin rights. A steward will have to do the IA bit. EPIC (talk) 21:53, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Glad to have you back. Courtesy ping @Justarandomamerican & @Drummingman. X (talk) 21:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Done, welcome back. Drummingman (talk) 22:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Glad to have you back. Courtesy ping @Justarandomamerican & @Drummingman. X (talk) 21:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, all. Username (talk) 23:27, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Proposal to change an abuse filter warning
Hello, everybody.
I propose moving [[MediaWiki:Newuser-externallinks]] to MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-newuser-externallinks, and changing the text of the filter warning message to something like this:
Warning: An automated filter has identified this edit containing external links. Test Wiki may not be used as a vehicle for promotion, and may result in being blocked from editing. If this edit is constructive, you may click "Publish changes" again to confirm it. If you received this message in error, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do.
Any inputs or concerns about this? If there are no objections, I'll be happy to do those changes in a few days. Thanks. – 64andtim (talk) 18:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- As the original creator of the customized warning, I
support this change. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Done. X (talk) 13:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
RFC: Clarify the inactivity policy for Non-steward suppressors
Another proposal to import Edit filter warning template
I was thinking if I could import the Edit filter warning template from the English Wikipedia, but leave out the report error since there is no edit filter false positive page on Test Wiki. Any inputs, concerns or objections?
When triggering an abuse filter, it shows a red box with text; maybe we could add that proposed template under the name "Abuse filter warning", and protect it under an appropriate protection as a high-risk template? Thank you. – 64andtim (talk) 18:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- We can also redirect people to here (the community portal) to report false positives, or to contact an administrator directly. I think having some form of template would make things easier, so no objections. Justarandomamerican (talk) 18:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- One more question: is bureaucrat protection appropriate when protecting a high-risk template? – 64andtim (talk) 18:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- In this case, it would be, since the template would be used in the interface, and not protecting it as such would allow users without the edit interface right to edit the interface. You can use discretion when protecting pages. Justarandomamerican (talk) 18:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Fine by me! X (talk) 18:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Since there are no objections, I'll implement them, but do we keep the report error button that can redirect here to the community portal or not? – 64andtim (talk) 15:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you can redirect it to the community portal. X (talk) 15:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Since there are no objections, I'll implement them, but do we keep the report error button that can redirect here to the community portal or not? – 64andtim (talk) 15:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Fine by me! X (talk) 18:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- In this case, it would be, since the template would be used in the interface, and not protecting it as such would allow users without the edit interface right to edit the interface. You can use discretion when protecting pages. Justarandomamerican (talk) 18:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- One more question: is bureaucrat protection appropriate when protecting a high-risk template? – 64andtim (talk) 18:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Done, but it took a little bit of trial and error for the url to actually work. – 64andtim (talk) 16:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Mobile edit
Does anyone have an idea why this and this was marked as mobile web edits, considering that I am on a computer? EPIC (talk) 19:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- That is weird, never heard of that happening before. Were you using mobile view when making the edits? X (talk) 19:21, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's possible you switched to mobile view and didn't realize it, like X said above. Justarandomamerican (talk) 19:25, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- I was using the normal desktop view, but checking e.g. FuzzyBot, it seems to be the same for some of those edits as well. EPIC (talk) 19:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- As far as I know, FuzzyBot uses the same tags as the edit/log entry that was made to cause it to perform an action. I'm not sure what could have caused that software-wise. @MacFan4000: Not urgent at all, but this is an odd technical situation. Justarandomamerican (talk) 19:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- I was using the normal desktop view, but checking e.g. FuzzyBot, it seems to be the same for some of those edits as well. EPIC (talk) 19:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
New filters made today
Today, I have decided to make filter 121 which prevents personal attacks or harassment on user/user talk pages, and filter 122, which prevents new users from editing others' user pages.
Confirmed users and sysops may edit user pages, but they may not add {{unlocked userpage}} on a random user page; it may only be done by the user themselves or a steward.
Any opinions or input? Thanks. – 64andtim (talk) 19:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- LGTM. X (talk) 19:38, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Mind if I test adding the unlocked userpage template on your userpage if this can be prevented by the filter? – 64andtim (talk) 19:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Go ahead. X (talk) 19:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Per Special:AbuseLog/5852, the filter is working as intended. – 64andtim (talk) 19:56, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Go ahead. X (talk) 19:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Mind if I test adding the unlocked userpage template on your userpage if this can be prevented by the filter? – 64andtim (talk) 19:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Piccadilly socks
I'm going to be combing over the logs and trying to compile a list of all the account Piccadilly has used and block them all with the same reason. I then might make some LTA pages like Wikipedia has to inform people of a little more about how to detect and deal with specific LTAs. X (talk) 22:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe should we disable filter 92? The target of the filter hasn't returned since 2022. – 64andtim (talk) 23:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- It is very specific and isn't hurting anything as is so I don't know if there's really a need to disable it. X (talk) 23:28, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- You know what? I agree, maybe we should keep it enabled. – 64andtim (talk) 23:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, they were a pretty big issue "back in the day". Would hate to have them come back because they know our protection has been disabled. X (talk) 23:35, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Done, feel free to improve. X (talk) 02:22, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, they were a pretty big issue "back in the day". Would hate to have them come back because they know our protection has been disabled. X (talk) 23:35, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- You know what? I agree, maybe we should keep it enabled. – 64andtim (talk) 23:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- It is very specific and isn't hurting anything as is so I don't know if there's really a need to disable it. X (talk) 23:28, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
RFC: Allow non-steward suppressors to perform "steward actions"
Abuse filter request
I'm not quite confident in using regex the abuse filter rules yet, so can someone who is create an abuse filter that disallows common phrases used by Piccadilly? Check their deleted contributions for details (and most things they do that need to be disallowed need no exceptions.) Justarandomamerican (talk) 02:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC) edited to correct 02:40, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not really familiar with regex, but I can design the code and body of said filter. Will create it, but someone else may need to create the regex. – 64andtim (talk) 02:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm not too inclined in the specifics, so likely made a mistake in saying regex, AbuseFilter rules are a custom language. Justarandomamerican (talk) 02:34, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have done a lot of trial and error with abuse filters, so I've managed to gather a little knowledge. I can help too! X (talk) 02:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Will create the message later targeted not just for the intended target, but for all LTAs. In addition, another special message if the filter is set to both disallow and block. – 64andtim (talk) 02:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Never mind, looks like filter 88 is active. – 64andtim (talk) 05:36, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Will create the message later targeted not just for the intended target, but for all LTAs. In addition, another special message if the filter is set to both disallow and block. – 64andtim (talk) 02:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have done a lot of trial and error with abuse filters, so I've managed to gather a little knowledge. I can help too! X (talk) 02:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm not too inclined in the specifics, so likely made a mistake in saying regex, AbuseFilter rules are a custom language. Justarandomamerican (talk) 02:34, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Void's userpage is still steward protected even though they are not a steward. Please unprotect. X (talk) 18:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Done by @Justarandomamerican X (talk) 23:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
RecentChanges pages
Here, I've put this page as a candidate for deletion:
- Test Wiki:RecentChanges
I don't see a need for this page considering it has always been unused. Additionally, we have always been maintaining this message and it has existed slightly longer than the link listed above. Username (talk) 00:45, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Fine by me. X (talk) 01:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Done by Justarandomamerican. Username (talk) 01:50, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Proposal to upload higher quality user rights icons
I am proposing to update the user right icons to their higher quality versions. Anybody has opinions or concerns? Thanks. – 64andtim (talk) 23:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Seems fairly uncontroversial, go ahead.
X (talk) 12:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Done. – 64andtim (talk) 17:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, much better. X (talk) 23:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Faulty wikilink
On Test Wiki:Bureaucrats, it says "Bureaucrat rights are required for any user seeking to gain system administrator, suppressor, or steward".
However, there seems to be a problem with the "system administrator" wikilink on that page - instead it leads me to Test Wiki:Suppressors. What could be the problem here? I don't know if I exclusively have this issue, or if it is the same for all users. EPIC (talk) 15:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Fixed. X (talk) 15:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Comment: Also, found the issue; both links had <tvar name=SA> at the beginning. EPIC (talk) 17:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- This fix seems to have removed the MyLanguage variable entirely, I have instead specified another variable. Thanks for the temp fix, Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
EPIC
Clearly define suppression criteria in policy
RFC: Redo suppression page
Sav
Name Change Requests
Proposal to delete example user right
I created a Phabricator request. (T89). Saint (talk) 05:56, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Zippybonzo's ban
Should this account perhaps also be unblocked now that the owner is unbanned? Asking as the block is a steward action. EPIC (talk) 18:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed.
Done, Thanks for the notification. Drummingman (talk) 18:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of EPIC for Stewardship
Ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to introduce a candidate for the Steward tools, EPIC. Already a member of our suppression team and a Wikimedia Steward, I believe he could use the extra tools to combat long-term and cross-wiki abuse, especially where that same abuse is occurring on Wikimedia projects. Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:49, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the trust and for the nomination! I have acknowledged it, and will add that I am currently thinking about it, and will come back in a short while for my final decision. EPIC (talk) 11:28, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- It's my pleasure to introduce you for consideration. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:33, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: OK, I have been thinking about this for quite a while. I am a little hesitant, considering we do have two active stewards for the moment. But OK, I am here regularly and I do already have CheckUser access on Wikimedia Login Wiki as part of my steward role, and access to other steward tools which are also included in the toolkit here on Test Wiki. So, with some hesitation, but also with pleasure, I accept. EPIC (talk) 13:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Procedural note: Votes/comments will not begin until EPIC decides whether to accept the nomination. X (talk + contribs) 17:34, 28 February 2024 (UTC)