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Hi Kazrok4545,
Hi Kazrok4545,


While I ''can'' appreciate your good-faith wanting to help [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Stewards]] here in regards to user conduct, and [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ''does'' need guidance, the prior practice of blocking indefinitely and repeatedly blocking the [[w:WP:SOCK|sockpuppets]] was ''not'' working, and the user ''is'' making progress, demonstrating [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], and incremental ''capacity to learn''. In addition, as it was quite clear at [[Test Wiki:Request permissions]], Seiyena was being managed by Stewards, and I would've supported you revoking their bureaucrat bit, the blocks were steps too far. Likewise, if you'd offered to assist [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] with setting up an abuse filter I was about to ask him to set up here, that would also have been fine. As such, though I normally prefer to ''warn'' first before temporarily revoking rights, in this case, I felt a slightly firmer hand was needed here, and have {{Done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/30514|revoked]]}} your <code>[[Test Wiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]]</code> and [[Test Wiki:Administrators|sysop]]</code> bits for '''two (2) weeks''' from today, after which any <code>[[Test Wiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]]</code> ''may'' re-add it.
While I ''can'' appreciate your good-faith wanting to help [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Stewards]] here in regards to user conduct, and [[User:Piccadilly|Seiyena]] ''does'' need guidance, the prior practice of blocking indefinitely and repeatedly blocking the [[w:WP:SOCK|sockpuppets]] was ''not'' working, and the user ''is'' making progress, demonstrating [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], and incremental ''capacity to learn''. In addition, as it was quite clear at [[Test Wiki:Request permissions]], Seiyena was being managed by Stewards, and I would've supported you revoking their bureaucrat bit, the blocks were steps too far. Likewise, if you'd offered to assist [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] with setting up an abuse filter I was about to ask him to set up here, that would also have been fine. As such, though I normally prefer to ''warn'' first before temporarily revoking rights, in this case, I felt a slightly firmer hand was needed here, and have {{Done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/30514|revoked]]}} your <code>[[Test Wiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]]</code> and [[Test Wiki:Administrators|sysop]]</code> bits for '''two (2) weeks''' from today, after which any <code>[[Test Wiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]]</code> ''may'' re-add it.


Thank you again for your other constructive contributions here. :)
Thank you again for your other constructive contributions here. :)
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:[[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]], As a counter-balance to the above, I ''do'', and ''have'', {{Done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/30516|endorsed]]}} your [[Special:Redirect/logid/30488|revocation]] of the user's [[User:Platinum Rose|alternate account]] having [[Test Wiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]] permissions. In my view, as a best practice, I ''do'' think that no user's alternate account [[rfc:2119|should]] have ''any'' permission '''above''' that of [[Test Wiki:Administrators|sysop]] and would strongly encourage any other bureaucrats that have provided their alternate accounts with such permissions to surrender those bits accordingly. What do you think? [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 03:20, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
:[[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]], As a counter-balance to the above, I ''do'', and ''have'', {{Done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/30516|endorsed]]}} your [[Special:Redirect/logid/30488|revocation]] of the user's [[User:Platinum Rose|alternate account]] having [[Test Wiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]] permissions. In my view, as a best practice, I ''do'' think that no user's alternate account [[rfc:2119|should]] have ''any'' permission '''above''' that of [[Test Wiki:Administrators|sysop]] and would strongly encourage any other bureaucrats that have provided their alternate accounts with such permissions to surrender those bits accordingly. What do you think? [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 03:20, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
:[[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]], I agree with the statement above. Indeed, that additional accounts should not have flags above admin. Sorry for the translation.— Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 03:53, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
:[[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]], I agree with the statement above. Indeed, that additional accounts should not have flags above admin. Sorry for the translation.— Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 03:53, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
::In my view, while I didn't like the block being indefinite, I didn't see too much wrong with the removal of my user rights and wouldn't have objected to a temporary block. (I think being blocked for a bit was good for me as it made me stop the "disruptive rampage" I was on.) Thank you for doing your best to handle the situation, Kazrok4545, and I will never do such a thing again. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 04:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
::In my view, while I didn't like the block being indefinite, I didn't see too much wrong with the removal of my user rights and wouldn't have objected to a temporary block. (I think being blocked for a bit was good for me as it made me stop the "disruptive rampage" I was on.) Thank you for doing your best to handle the situation, Kazrok4545, and I will never do such a thing again. [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 04:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
::100% yeah. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 04:19, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
::100% yeah. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 04:19, 12 April 2022 (UTC)


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