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== Can't log in to Phorge even with exactly the same password that I use there? ==
== Can't log in to Phorge even with exactly the same password that I use there? ==


...see topic name. I tried it like 3 times, but it failed. I wanted to request merging of <code>autopatrol</code> and <code>autoreview</code> user groups. — [[User:Cruster|Cruster]] 19:30, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
...see topic name. I tried it like 3 times, but it failed. I wanted to request merging of <code>autopatrol</code> and <code>autoreview</code> user groups. — [[User:Summer|Cruster]] 19:30, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
* {{ping|MacFan4000}} — [[User:Cruster|Cruster]] 19:37, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
* {{ping|MacFan4000}} — [[User:Summer|Cruster]] 19:37, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
:You have to use the button that says sign in with mediawiki. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 22:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
:You have to use the button that says sign in with mediawiki. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 22:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)


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#{{Oppose}} I don't see an actual need for the tools. — [[User:Cruster|Cruster]] 09:28, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} I don't see an actual need for the tools. — [[User:Summer|Cruster]] 09:28, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} As Cruster, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 10:15, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} As Cruster, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 10:15, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} As Cruster and Drummingman. You could be a steward in a month or two. [[User:Example|Example]] ([[User talk:Example|talk]]) 17:21, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} As Cruster and Drummingman. You could be a steward in a month or two. [[User:Example|Example]] ([[User talk:Example|talk]]) 17:21, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Revision as of 18:25, 4 June 2023

Name change request

Good afternoon, @MacFan4000: & @Dmehus:.

I am requesting my Test Wiki username to be changed to Sav to closely reflect my personal name as Trayfel has no correlation to me.

Regards, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 13:52, 8 June 2022 (UTC).

@MacFan4000: & @Dmehus: - Can this be done, please? Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 19:06, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 Done MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 19:50, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Restoration of my admin rights

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Closed as per Mac's comment Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 18:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Hello, a few days ago I had uploaded a screenshot I had taken of a porn site as a test of the upload function. I do admit that image was questionable and I probably should have used better judgement before deciding to upload it. However, I will not upload any images like that ever again and will continue to be clean in all my other tests here. May I please have my admin privileges back (they were revoked due to this situation)? Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 00:32, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

 On hold - Considering this situation occurred this day, I do not feel you are ready. Can 2 other 'crats and/or a Steward please voice their opinion on this. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 00:34, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
See Special:Diff/23468/23478. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 01:02, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
I have also modified AF#88 so as to prevent future uploads, if any. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 01:20, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
  • I don't trust her. And it's not matter of time. How many times do we have to be betrayed trust we put on her? I won't trust her unless she proves she changed, and again, it's not matter of time.
  • Since she's "Steward-managed" case and we can't make "community block"(even if we could, she would evade blocking anyway, as she did here), I'm not inclined to be involved in her anymore. If steward think she should be granted permission, then they can do it as their responsibility. If she causes any trouble, then steward should take care of it as their responsibility. After all, she's "Steward-managed" user, isn't she?
  • I think further RFP request shouldn't be handled. But since "I'm not inclined to be involved in her", I don't insist. If steward/community decides otherwise, then it's fine.--Q8j (talk) 01:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

So if I ask for admin or bureaucrat, only a steward should handle those requests? Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 13:42, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Due to continued misuse of tools and ignoring of people, I have decided to apply an indefinite block. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 15:26, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you Mac, much appreciated. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 18:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Template:Discussionbottom
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Proposed amendment to Test Wiki:Bots

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No consensus and insufficient participation to form consensus. While there are sound reasons for this to be added, this seems to be a bit of putting the proverbial cart before the horse. In other words, until we have clear bot approval criteria, how do we enforce this, which is what I suspect Chrs means by this (at least in part). Dmehus (talk) 23:47, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Proposal

I propose that this template be added to every Bot account that is created.
This would be in line with Wikipedia's bot shutoff template. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 20:00, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Rationale:

  • Provides Administrators & 'crats with a simple way to block a malfunctioning bot account.

Support

Neutral/Abstain

Oppose

 Oppose While such templates can be helpful, I don't see a compelling need to enforce this as policy. — Chrs (talk) 04:01, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Counter-proposal

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Stewardship request (LisafBia)

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A good-faith request by LisafBia for Stewardship; however, as several participants have noted, they are not sufficiently satisified as to LisafBia's reason for requesting Stewardship and, by extension of the same token, to there not being a sufficient need. Given that the only other participant, Matttest, who asked questions but has not yet expressed a view either way, is now CheckUser blocked for abusing multiple accounts in a duplicitous manner, this is unlikely to be successful. Dmehus (talk) 22:52, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi, there are few stewards on the wiki, I want to help the wiki, please vote! LisafBia (talk) 12:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Support

Oppose

 Oppose You have not given a plausible reason for you wanting Stewardship. I believe, in my honest opinion, we do not need another Steward. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 15:04, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

@Sav: There are few stewards on the wiki and I want to be able to help this wiki, I know the policies. LisafBia (talk) 17:34, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
@LisafBia: You have still not given reasoning for your request for stewardship. Saying things like "I want to be able to help this wiki, I know the policies" does not convince me you are suitable for Stewardship. I will not be changing my vote, you are not suitable for the rights in my opinion. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 06:26, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

 Oppose No use case was presented to my question/comment, and this wiki is not in urgent need of more stewards, who have extremely advanced permissions. The ability to help out with the wiki is already granted to sysops and bureaucrats, while being test permissions, have broad authority to take non-test action. Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:31, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Comment

  1.  Comment: and Question: Stewards have highly advanced permissions such as access to a user's IP and previously suppressed edits, along with the ability to suppress edits. Do you specifically need those highly advanced permissions for a particular use case? Or do you simply wish to help out? Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
    @Justarandomamerican: I would prefer to use those powers only when needed. LisafBia (talk) 10:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
  2. In what situation will you use the CheckUser tools? What's the purpose of CheckUser? --Matttest (talk) 07:57, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
  3. With the bureaucrat rights, you can already execute lpts of non-test actions. Which exact areas are you going to help out as a steward? --Matttest (talk) 07:57, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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Technical question

Hello! On August 25th, I had undo the vandalism from a vandalism-only account. I deleted the user created pages with Special:Nuke. But I noticed in a CheckUser I did on myself for testing this week that at that moment the IP address changed automatically. Why did this happen? AlPaD (talk) 18:46, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

AlPaD, with apologies for the delay in responding, can you clarify what you mean by this? If you're referring to your IP address being associated to other users and system users, this is a known issue, as far as I'm aware, and occurs with some extension (can't remember the details off the top of my head at the moment). I'll try and dig up the Wikimedia Phabricator task about it. Dmehus (talk) 21:53, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
@Dmehus: Hello and welcome back! The hostname of one IP is "testwiki.wiki" and the ISP of some others is "Huawei International Pte. Ltd" and my device is Huawei. My normal IP was online from 9:48-10:06, just in between it also showed those system IPs every time I did a mass delete. AlPaD (talk) 19:59, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
AlPaD, thanks for the welcome! it's hard to know, specifically. I'm not sure if your ISP is Huawei International or not, and I suspect the CheckUser data retention on Test Wiki is only three months, so wouldn't have any way of confirming that now. I know there's an issue with importing pages whereby you import or transwiki pages from another another wiki and choose to assign edits locally where the same username exists on Test Wiki. Those imported usernames will show up associated to your IP address. Could that be the issue? Dmehus (talk) 19:03, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
@Dmehus: I believe the error is because the pages I deleted were translations (created by the vandal) and had to be deleted manually and not automatically. I don't think it's too serious but I support fixing the bug if there is one. Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 18:06, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

False positives

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 Done per the reasonable request and per the consensus formed in the discussion below. Dmehus (talk) 00:50, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

@MacFan4000 and Dmehus: 52 filter constantly block users incorrectly. Please disable this filter. LisafBia (talk) 11:49, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

LisafBia, I'd be fine with disabling this filter, if it's generating too many false positives, and I plan to be more active here, so can focus on running CheckUser on the obvious spambots and soft rangeblocking open proxies. Would anyone have any objections to this? AlPaD, Q8j, Sav, DarkMatterMan4500, and anyone else active here? Dmehus (talk) 19:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
@Dmehus: I have no objection, I totally agree. AlPaD (talk) 13:22, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
@Dmehus: No objection from me, I agree. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 16:32, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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Can't log in to Phorge even with exactly the same password that I use there?

...see topic name. I tried it like 3 times, but it failed. I wanted to request merging of autopatrol and autoreview user groups. — Cruster 19:30, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

You have to use the button that says sign in with mediawiki. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 22:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Stewardship request (Tm8150switch88)

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No consensus along with the requester being blocked from the Wiki. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 09:55, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Nomination

I want to access advanced tools on The Test Wiki and to protect pages that allow only stewards, please vote. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 16:35, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Comments

Discussion

Votes

Support

Oppose

  1.  Oppose I don't see an actual need for the tools. — Cruster 09:28, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
  2.  Oppose As Cruster, Drummingman (talk) 10:15, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
  3.  Oppose As Cruster and Drummingman. You could be a steward in a month or two. Example (talk) 17:21, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
  4.  Oppose You are nowhere near active enough nor trusted enough to be granted such permissions. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 09:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Neutral

Result

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User rights amendment

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No consensus and insufficient participation, along with the OC being blocked from the Wiki. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 09:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Proposal

@MacFan4000: See if you could add extended confirmed to the wiki. They are automatically given to users at least 30 days and 500 edits. They could revoke or be given, even if it's less than 30 days and/or less than 500 edits. Revoking the extended confirmed status by the abuse filter action is given to abuse filters as well. Extended confirmed users could be able to edit pages with extended confirmed (or 30/500) protection. Administrators can also edit those pages, even those that are not have reached 30 days and 500 edits. They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 16:40, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

See if you also could add template editor user right to the wiki. They are given to users per requests, but also be revoked. They are able to make pages that are template-protected. They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
See if you also could add edit filter managers and edit filter helpers to the wiki. They could be given or revoked even to someone that are not admins. Edit filter helpers could help edit filter managers (but not to edit filter managers, a) (they could look at the spamlist log, b) (they could look at private filters, c) while edit filter managers could edit filters (and all edit filter managers are given edit filter helpers rights, d). They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
See if you also could add the founder to the wiki. Those could edit all user rights, lock and unblock the database, and OAuth CAPTCHA pass. They are only given to system administrator and should not be added to anyone except the legitimate account MacFan4000. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
See if you also could add test accounts to the wiki so they are used for testing purposes. They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

I don't know why would this will ever be used on the test wiki, most "articles" on here are for tests only Lolkikmoddi (talk)

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question

what is "push subscription manager" group, thats all i have Lolkikmoddi (talk)

I checked your user groups and nothing of the sort appears there. Can you elaborate? Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 16:52, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
@Lolkikmoddi: Information about that group is here. Example (talk) 16:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
Whoever was using the Example account to reply to this question, please refrain from doing so. The Example account is only for testing, not replying to users / editing pages. Know this for next time. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 07:08, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Seiyena is making appeal

At User_talk:Seiyena#Block_Appeal. For your information.--Q8j (talk) 04:30, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, Mac has stated that they are not going to be unblocked anytime soon. Stewards & 'crats, please disregard any future appeal requests until @MacFan4000: says they are allowed to. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 13:48, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

User: Melty Molten

They appealed their block in January 2023. Seeing as it has not been responded to, I am informing people here of it. Administrator (talk) 19:51, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Having read the above post, I have declined the appeal and removed talk page access. Administrator (talk) 17:12, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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