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:Are we sure that, for example, non-vandal users will not be accidentally affected? If so, then {{Support}}. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 21:50, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
:Are we sure that, for example, non-vandal users will not be accidentally affected? If so, then {{Support}}. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 21:50, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
::Hey BZPN, the bot is designed to run continuously unless stopped manually. Every minute, it checks recent changes to identify users who have made rights changes. It keeps track of each user’s actions in a separate list. If a user's list exceeds 5 rights changes, the bot automatically removes their rights and blocks them for 7 days. This allows stewards to review whether the user was actually abusing their rights. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 00:09, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
::Hey BZPN, the bot is designed to run continuously unless stopped manually. Every minute, it checks recent changes to identify users who have made rights changes. It keeps track of each user’s actions in a separate list. If a user's list exceeds 5 rights changes, the bot automatically removes their rights and blocks them for 7 days. This allows stewards to review whether the user was actually abusing their rights. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 00:09, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
:I have an alternative proposal: create a dedicated user group and assign it the following permissions:
:$wgRemoveGroups['abuse-bot'] = array('sysop', 'bureaucrat'); // to remove sysop and crat from abusers
:$wgGroupPermissions['abuse-bot']['edit'] = true; // permits editing of abuser talk pages
:$wgGroupPermissions['abuse-bot']['editprotected'] = true; // allows editing even if the page is protected
:$wgGroupPermissions['abuse-bot']['read'] = true;
:$wgGroupPermissions['abuse-bot']['bot'] = true; // marks the user as an automated process
:$wgGroupPermissions['abuse-bot']['createtalk'] = true; // enables creation of talk pages if they don't exist
:$wgGroupPermissions['abuse-bot']['block'] = true; // grants the ability to block users
:$wgGroupPermissions['abuse-bot']['unblockable'] = true; // prevents abusers from blocking the bot [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 17:01, 23 April 2025 (UTC)


==2FA recommendation/proposal==
==2FA recommendation/proposal==
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*I really don’t think you need to be a steward to become a system administrator, it’s a completely different skill set. It is for this reason steward is not a requirement for SA. I encourage you to simply apply to be a system administrator, because that is where we are truly lacking in staff. You have proven yourself to be trustworthy in that capacity, and while I agree that the trust required of a system administrator may be even greater than that of a steward, I disagree that you need one before the other. Best of luck, if you choose to continue! [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#0F69B3;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 00:30, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
*I really don’t think you need to be a steward to become a system administrator, it’s a completely different skill set. It is for this reason steward is not a requirement for SA. I encourage you to simply apply to be a system administrator, because that is where we are truly lacking in staff. You have proven yourself to be trustworthy in that capacity, and while I agree that the trust required of a system administrator may be even greater than that of a steward, I disagree that you need one before the other. Best of luck, if you choose to continue! [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#0F69B3;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 00:30, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
*:Hello X,
*:Hello X,
*: I respectfully disagree with your point. Since you've acknowledged that the role of system administrator carries greater responsibility than that of a steward, I believe the most appropriate way to demonstrate my trustworthiness is by first serving effectively as a steward. Holding IA rights already indicates a level of trust, but steward responsibilities would allow me to further prove myself.
*:I respectfully disagree with your point. Since you've acknowledged that the role of system administrator carries greater responsibility than that of a steward, I believe the most appropriate way to demonstrate my trustworthiness is by first serving effectively as a steward. Holding IA rights already indicates a level of trust, but steward responsibilities would allow me to further prove myself.
*:While the roles differ in some technical aspects, both involve access to tools like CheckUser and Suppression, as well as responsibilities such as appointing IAs—so the skill sets do overlap to a significant degree.
*:While the roles differ in some technical aspects, both involve access to tools like CheckUser and Suppression, as well as responsibilities such as appointing IAs—so the skill sets do overlap to a significant degree.
*:I’m fully aware of the current shortage of system administrators and genuinely want to contribute to resolving that.However, I still feel it's more suitable for me to apply for steward first.As I mentioned to Justa in a private conversation, I intend to apply for system administrator in about 3–4 months if I am successfully elected as a steward. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 00:41, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
*:I’m fully aware of the current shortage of system administrators and genuinely want to contribute to resolving that.However, I still feel it's more suitable for me to apply for steward first.As I mentioned to Justa in a private conversation, I intend to apply for system administrator in about 3–4 months if I am successfully elected as a steward. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 00:41, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
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