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→Omnibus RfC: Unbundling abusefilter permissions from Administrators: Reply
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:::::The <code>abusefilter-modify-restricted</code> user right is currently restricted to [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Stewards]] for mainly security and abuse reasons. I ''suppose'' we could sub-delegate this user right, but I'd rather see it be a ''separate'' user group, like <code>abusefilter-sysop</code> or something, that would also require a community vote (like non-Steward suppressors) (since it requires an extra degree of trust and also has some real, non-test administrator responsibilities). [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 16:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC) | :::::The <code>abusefilter-modify-restricted</code> user right is currently restricted to [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Stewards]] for mainly security and abuse reasons. I ''suppose'' we could sub-delegate this user right, but I'd rather see it be a ''separate'' user group, like <code>abusefilter-sysop</code> or something, that would also require a community vote (like non-Steward suppressors) (since it requires an extra degree of trust and also has some real, non-test administrator responsibilities). [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 16:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC) | ||
::::::I would propose all of the following in addition: | ::::::I would propose all of the following in addition: | ||
::::::* All admins should keep the abusefilter-log-detail right. | ::::::*All admins should keep the abusefilter-log-detail right. | ||
::::::* The <code>abusefilter-helper</code> group should only have the abusefilter-view-private and abusefilter-log-private permissions. | ::::::*The <code>abusefilter-helper</code> group should only have the abusefilter-view-private and abusefilter-log-private permissions. | ||
::::::* The <code>abusefilter-edit</code> group should just simply have the name <code>abusefilter</code>, and have the following rights (in addition to having a community vote requirement): | ::::::*The <code>abusefilter-edit</code> group should just simply have the name <code>abusefilter</code>, and have the following rights (in addition to having a community vote requirement): | ||
::::::1) Create or modify abuse filters (abusefilter-modify) [this may or may not need the two rights listed on the abusefilter-helper permission since this permission allows you to view the filters and their logs, whether public or private] | ::::::1) Create or modify abuse filters (abusefilter-modify) [this may or may not need the two rights listed on the abusefilter-helper permission since this permission allows you to view the filters and their logs, whether public or private] | ||
::::::2) Create or modify what external domains are blocked from being linked (abusefilter-modify-blocked-external-domains) | ::::::2) Create or modify what external domains are blocked from being linked (abusefilter-modify-blocked-external-domains) | ||
::::::3) Modify abuse filters with restricted actions (abusefilter-modify-restricted) | ::::::3) Modify abuse filters with restricted actions (abusefilter-modify-restricted) | ||
::::::4) Revert all changes by a given abuse filter (abusefilter-revert) | ::::::4) Revert all changes by a given abuse filter (abusefilter-revert) | ||
::::::* Stewards do not need to assign the abusefilter or abusefilter-helper permission to themselves, but they can assign and remove either of the two to trusted users following a community vote. | ::::::*Stewards do not need to assign the abusefilter or abusefilter-helper permission to themselves, but they can assign and remove either of the two to trusted users following a community vote. | ||
::::::[[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 17:27, 28 April 2024 (UTC) | ::::::[[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 17:27, 28 April 2024 (UTC) | ||
:::::::A community vote and/or Steward discretion (for helper, or granting edit to those who have worked on abuse filters before) or consensus (for neither of those cases), I presume? Appointment by community vote only would be a higher bar than we set for our [[Test Wiki: Suppressors|non-steward suppressors]]. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
==Umm....== | ==Umm....== |