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| ==Merry Christmas!==
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| Merry Christmas to all those here at The Test Wiki.
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| Have a wonderful day and all the best for 2024!
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| Lots of love, [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contributions/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:NewSection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 17:51, 24 December 2023 (UTC).
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| ==userRightsManager gadget is broken==
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| I tried to approve a user's permission request with the userRightsManager gadget and found that the gadget is not working properly. Can the interface administrators fix this issue? [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 19:07, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :I've reviewed the code and tested the script. It appears to be working for me. Could you please provide more details on what isn't working for you? [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 14:20, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{done|Fixed}}, the move to Request ''for'' permissions broke the script initially. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Makes sense, thanks for the fix. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 14:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Request for Suppressor right==
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| I request oversight rights from our community for 2 days. I will only use it for testing and I promise not to compromise anyone's privacy. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 21:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{not done}} as suppressor is not a test right and will not be given to those who are not stewards or community elected non-steward suppressors, for obvious privacy concerns. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::One question: as the suppressor right isn't a test right, is the non-steward suppressor right also a non-test right? – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 20:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Indeed. And therefore it is not meant to be tested. It is meant only for serious suppression.
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| :::The user right is not intended as a test flag like most roles here. It is intended only for serious suppression. System administrator, steward, checkuser, suppressor and non-steward suppressor are emphatically not test roles. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 20:25, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::Interface admin is also somewhere in the middle. It isn't a testing right, but some people do use it for that. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 20:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==My IA right==
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| Could a steward remove my IA permission, please? Thanks a lot, and goodbye! [[User:Saint|Username]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 06:23, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :Dear, @[[User:Saint|Username]] {{done}}. Thank you for your edits, we look forward to seeing you again. Kind regards, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 10:21, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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| I thought I was ready to go. But I guess I feel like staying longer considering I've worked so hard on keeping this wiki organized, and I have left some things that have yet to look completed. Can somebody grant me my rights back, please? Thank you! [[User:Saint|Username]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 21:43, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{ping|Saint}} I have granted you back the crat and admin rights. A steward will have to do the IA bit. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 21:53, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Glad to have you back. Courtesy ping @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] & @[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]]. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 21:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::{{done}}, welcome back. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 22:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{outdent|2}} Thanks, all. [[User:Saint|Username]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 23:27, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Proposal to change an abuse filter warning==
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| Hello, everybody.
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| I propose moving <s>[[</s>MediaWiki:Newuser-externallinks<s>]]</s> to [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-newuser-externallinks]], and changing the text of the filter warning message to something like this:
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| '''Warning:''' An automated filter has identified this edit containing external links. Test Wiki may not be used as a vehicle for promotion, and may result in being blocked from editing. If this edit is constructive, you may click "Publish changes" again to confirm it. If you received this message in error, please inform an [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|administrator]] of what you were trying to do.
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| Any inputs or concerns about this? If there are no objections, I'll be happy to do those changes in a few days. Thanks. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :As the original creator of the customized warning, I {{support|support}} this change. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::{{done}}. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 13:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==RFC: Clarify [[TW:IP|the inactivity policy]] for Non-steward suppressors==
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| {{discussion top|{{done|Passes}}. Non-steward suppressors will be held to a 3 month inactivity requirement. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:54, 28 January 2024 (UTC)}}
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| This is a rather simple proposal. Shall the inactivity policy:
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| #Be amended to include a 3 month inactivity period for Non-steward suppressors,
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| #Be amended to include a 1 year inactivity period for Non-steward suppressors; or
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| #Be amended to include another inactivity period for non-steward suppressors?
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| [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:38, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{support}} 1 as proposer. 3 months seems plenty enough, rather than the 1 year inactivity period granted to Stewards and Sysadmins. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{support}} option #1 per Justa. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{support}} the #1 option. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Another proposal to import Edit filter warning template==
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| I was thinking if I could import the Edit filter warning template from the English Wikipedia, but leave out the report error since there is no edit filter false positive page on Test Wiki. Any inputs, concerns or objections?
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| When triggering an abuse filter, it shows a red box with text; maybe we could add that proposed template under the name "Abuse filter warning", and protect it under an appropriate protection as a high-risk template? Thank you. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :We can also redirect people to here (the community portal) to report false positives, or to contact an administrator directly. I think having some form of template would make things easier, so no objections. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::One more question: is bureaucrat protection appropriate when protecting a high-risk template? – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::In this case, it would be, since the template would be used in the interface, and not protecting it as such would allow users without the edit interface right to edit the interface. You can use discretion when protecting pages. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::Fine by me! [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::Since there are no objections, I'll implement them, but do we keep the report error button that can redirect here to the community portal or not? – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 15:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::::Yes, you can redirect it to the community portal. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 15:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{done}}, but it took a little bit of trial and error for the url to actually work. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 16:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Mobile edit==
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| Does anyone have an idea why [[Special:Diff/35138|this]] and [[Special:Diff/35122|this]] was marked as mobile web edits, considering that I am on a computer? [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 19:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :That is weird, never heard of that happening before. Were you using mobile view when making the edits? [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:21, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :It's possible you switched to mobile view and didn't realize it, like X said above. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:25, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::I was using the normal desktop view, but checking e.g. [[Special:Contributions/FuzzyBot|FuzzyBot]], it seems to be the same for some of those edits as well. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 19:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::As far as I know, FuzzyBot uses the same tags as the edit/log entry that was made to cause it to perform an action. I'm not sure what could have caused that software-wise. {{ping|MacFan4000}} Not urgent at all, but this is an odd technical situation. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==New filters made today==
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| Today, I have decided to make filter 121 which prevents personal attacks or harassment on user/user talk pages, and filter 122, which prevents new users from editing others' user pages.
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| Confirmed users and sysops may edit user pages, but they may not add {{tl|unlocked userpage}} on a random user page; it may only be done by the user themselves or a steward.
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| Any opinions or input? Thanks. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 19:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :LGTM. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:38, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Mind if I test adding the unlocked userpage template on your userpage if this can be prevented by the filter? – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 19:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Go ahead. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::Per [[Special:AbuseLog/5852]], the filter is working as intended. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 19:56, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Piccadilly socks==
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| I'm going to be combing over the logs and trying to compile a list of all the account Piccadilly has used and block them all with the same reason. I then might make some LTA pages like Wikipedia has to inform people of a little more about how to detect and deal with specific LTAs. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 22:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :Maybe should we disable filter 92? The target of the filter hasn't returned since 2022. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 23:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::It is very specific and isn't hurting anything as is so I don't know if there's really a need to disable it. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:28, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::You know what? I agree, maybe we should keep it enabled. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 23:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::Yeah, they were a pretty big issue "back in the day". Would hate to have them come back because they know our protection has been disabled. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:35, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::{{done}}, feel free to improve. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 02:22, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==RFC: Allow non-steward suppressors to perform "steward actions"==
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| ::Resolved. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:15, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| Hi all,
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| Looking back in my original proposal to create the non-steward suppressor group, I found that I forgot to add the ability to perform steward actions to the list. I think this is quite needed as suppression blocks are a large part of the job, in addition to evidence for blocks being hidden behind a suppression. For transparency, see [[User talk:Justarandomamerican#Suppression log]] for part of the reason why this is being proposed. Thank you. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:00, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :Steward actions and other special types of blocks are mainly governed by long standing practice. In this case, [[Test Wiki:Blocks and bans|our information page on these practices]] includes a suitable alternative meant for suppression reasons, such as completely inappropriate vandalism or personal information without consent that has to be suppressed. If this proposal is about allowing the group to basically become steward-lite through formal capacity, then {{oppose}}. NSSs should stay within their scope of suppression. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::No, that is not at all the goal of the proposal. It is strictly to allow them to call blocks steward actions. My apologies, I should have worded that better. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:07, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Withdrawn per Justa's solution. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:11, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Abuse filter request==
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| I'm not quite confident in using <del>regex</del> <ins>the abuse filter rules</ins> yet, so can someone who is create an abuse filter that disallows common phrases used by [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]]? Check their deleted contributions for details (and most things they do that need to be disallowed need no exceptions.) [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC) edited to correct 02:40, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :I'm not really familiar with regex, but I can design the code and body of said filter. Will create it, but someone else may need to create the regex. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 02:31, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Thanks! I'm not too inclined in the specifics, so likely made a mistake in saying regex, AbuseFilter rules are a custom language. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:34, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::I have done a lot of trial and error with abuse filters, so I've managed to gather a little knowledge. I can help too! [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 02:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::Will create the message later targeted not just for the intended target, but for all LTAs. In addition, another special message if the filter is set to both disallow and block. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 02:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::Never mind, looks like filter 88 is active. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 05:36, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==[[User:Void]]==
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| Void's userpage is still steward protected even though they are not a steward. Please unprotect. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{done}} by @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==RecentChanges pages==
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| Here, I've put this page as a candidate for deletion:
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| *Test Wiki:RecentChanges
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| I don't see a need for this page considering it has always been unused. Additionally, we have always been maintaining [[MediaWiki:Recentchangestext|this message]] and it has existed slightly longer than the link listed above. [[User:Saint|Username]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 00:45, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :Fine by me. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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| {{done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/42572|Done]]}} by Justarandomamerican. [[User:Saint|Username]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 01:50, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Proposal to upload higher quality user rights icons== | | ==Proposal to upload higher quality user rights icons== |