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Hello, and welcome to my talk page.
Hello, and welcome to my talk page.


== Some bubble tea for you! ==
==Some bubble tea for you!==
 
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== Remove all my rights ==
==Remove all my rights==
I don't expect to be hugely active here for the time being, so can you please remove every single one of my rights? I will re-request when I have more time. Thanks. [[User:Hellk77|Hellk77]] ([[User talk:Hellk77|talk]]) 03:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
I don't expect to be hugely active here for the time being, so can you please remove every single one of my rights? I will re-request when I have more time. Thanks. [[User:Hellk77|Hellk77]] ([[User talk:Hellk77|talk]]) 03:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Hellk77}} {{done}}--[[User:Euphoria|Euphoria]] ([[User talk:Euphoria|talk]]) 16:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Hellk77}} {{done}}--[[User:Euphoria|Euphoria]] ([[User talk:Euphoria|talk]]) 16:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
: Thanks. Hope to be back soon. Cheers -- [[User:Hellk77|Hellk77]] ([[User talk:Hellk77|talk]]) 04:10, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
: Thanks. Hope to be back soon. Cheers -- [[User:Hellk77|Hellk77]] ([[User talk:Hellk77|talk]]) 04:10, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


== A cookie for you! ==
==A cookie for you!==
 
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== Admin rights removed ==
==Admin rights removed==
Hello, Euphoria. Because you have not made an [[Special:Contribs/Euphoria|edit]] nor a [[Special:Logs/Euphoria|logged action]] within the last three months, your admin rights will be [[Special:UserRights/Euphoria|removed]] soon in accordance with the [[Test Wiki:Inactivity Policy|inactivity policy]]. This removal is entirely procedural and does not reflect your behavior at all. If you plan to be active again and use the admin tools, you can request them back any time here, on [[User talk:X|my talk page]], or at [[Test Wiki:Request permissions]]. If you have any questions or believe I made a mistake, please let me know. Thanks, --[[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
Hello, Euphoria. Because you have not made an [[Special:Contributions/Euphoria|edit]] nor a [[Special:Log/Euphoria|logged action]] within the last three months, your admin rights will be [[Special:UserRights/Euphoria|removed]] soon in accordance with the [[Test Wiki:Inactivity policy|inactivity policy]]. This removal is entirely procedural and does not reflect your behavior at all. If you plan to be active again and use the admin tools, you can request them back any time here, on [[User talk:X|my talk page]], or at [[Test Wiki:Request for permissions]]. If you have any questions or believe I made a mistake, please let me know. Thanks, --[[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
:Reverted, 3 months after March 3rd (their last logged action) is June 3rd. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 12:08, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
:Reverted, 3 months after March 3rd (their last logged action) is June 3rd. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 12:08, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
::Re-instated but changed to 15 day grace period to line up with June 3rd. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 13:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
::Re-instated but changed to 15 day grace period to line up with June 3rd. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 13:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
:::Their rights are removed exactly after 3 months, not before with a grace period. If you are unsure, ask on the Community Portal. I'll keep it as is for now. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 20:41, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
:::Their rights are removed exactly after 3 months, not before with a grace period. If you are unsure, ask on the Community Portal. I'll keep it as is for now. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 20:41, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
::::I don't really think the difference matters, unless it is/was duly discussed by the community and decided upon. This is a wiki, not a bureaucracy. Just my two cents. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:07, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
::::I don't really think the difference matters, unless it is/was duly discussed by the community and decided upon. This is a wiki, not a bureaucracy. Just my two cents. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:07, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::I believe that inactive users rights should be removed 3 months after last edit/log action and not temporary expire 2 weeks because the user can come back in last 2 weeks. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 12:35, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::When a user's rights are changed, they are notified via email, (or at least I am). So by setting an expiry for 2 weeks, I am notifying them so they can come online and extend the length of their permissions. This is how I have done it on multiple wikis, and the outcome is the same. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 12:37, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, but if a user is an admin but not a bureaucrat (s)he can't be able to make him/hermselves a permanent admin again. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 17:46, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, but it is quite simple for them to re-request it permanently. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:55, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't understand when they still haven't reached the limit that the policy says why they need to go through this process? [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 19:15, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::{{Ping|X}} & {{Ping|Justarandomamerican}} AlPaD is correct, we don't give a grace period so ''do not'' give one. The policy says 3 months and after 3 months, their rights will be removed. Do not revert. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 16:19, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::Again, the policy does not explicitly specify what to do with inactive users besides removing their rights after 3 months. It does not state that doing anything else is a violation of policy. It says nothing about grace periods beforehand or the like. You are reinstating a reversed administrative action to unilaterally reinstate indefinite adminship after X attempted to compromise, which is wheel warring. Please seek consensus on the community portal. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:24, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::Like justa said above, the policy states nothing stating grace periods should not be used. Their rights were set to be removed on June 3rd anyway, which is the correct date of rights removal. This is wheel warring, as the policy does not explicitly state not to use grace periods and because it doesn't change the outcome of the time of removal. I have re-instated the grace period because your revert was wheel-warring and not supported by policy. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:11, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::::{{Ping|Dmehus}} Could you give your input? Regardless of if the policy does not explicitly state not to use grace periods, it doesn't say they '''should'''. {{Ping|X}} and {{Ping|Justarandomamerican}} You need to actually go off what the Policy '''explicitly''' states, not nitpick. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 18:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::::We are the ones nitpicking!!! Or are you? I was minding my own business and setting grace periods like I have been doing here and on other wikis for months. You out of nowhere make a fuss about it, even though policy says nothing against it and wheel war. But I am the nitpicking one? Makes no sense to me. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:32, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
{{outdent|14}} I would suggest reading the topic on the Community Portal. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 18:33, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
:{{done}}. And ideally, this discussion should have occurred there in the first place in stead of clogging this users talk page. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:38, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
::You were the one to continue it. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 18:48, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
==Permissions removed==
Hello, Euphoria. Because you have not made an [[Special:Contributions/Euphoria|edit]] nor a [[Special:Log/Euphoria|logged action]] within the last three months, your rights have been removed in accordance with the [[Test Wiki:Inactivity policy|inactivity policy]]. This removal is entirely procedural and does not reflect your behavior at all. If you plan to be active again and use the tools, you can request them back any time at [[Test Wiki:Request for permissions|the permissions page]]. If you have any questions or believe I made a mistake, please let me know. Thanks. [[User:Saint|Saint]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 02:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:03, 29 March 2024

Hello, and welcome to my talk page.

Some bubble tea for you![edit source]

:3 A (talk) 07:34, 18 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Remove all my rights[edit source]

I don't expect to be hugely active here for the time being, so can you please remove every single one of my rights? I will re-request when I have more time. Thanks. Hellk77 (talk) 03:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Hellk77:  Done--Euphoria (talk) 16:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. Hope to be back soon. Cheers -- Hellk77 (talk) 04:10, 20 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A cookie for you![edit source]

This is neat ZoomZoom (talk) 18:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Admin rights removed[edit source]

Hello, Euphoria. Because you have not made an edit nor a logged action within the last three months, your admin rights will be removed soon in accordance with the inactivity policy. This removal is entirely procedural and does not reflect your behavior at all. If you plan to be active again and use the admin tools, you can request them back any time here, on my talk page, or at Test Wiki:Request for permissions. If you have any questions or believe I made a mistake, please let me know. Thanks, --X (talk) 17:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reverted, 3 months after March 3rd (their last logged action) is June 3rd. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 12:08, 19 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Re-instated but changed to 15 day grace period to line up with June 3rd. X (talk) 13:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Their rights are removed exactly after 3 months, not before with a grace period. If you are unsure, ask on the Community Portal. I'll keep it as is for now. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 20:41, 19 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't really think the difference matters, unless it is/was duly discussed by the community and decided upon. This is a wiki, not a bureaucracy. Just my two cents. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:07, 19 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I believe that inactive users rights should be removed 3 months after last edit/log action and not temporary expire 2 weeks because the user can come back in last 2 weeks. AlPaD (talk) 12:35, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
When a user's rights are changed, they are notified via email, (or at least I am). So by setting an expiry for 2 weeks, I am notifying them so they can come online and extend the length of their permissions. This is how I have done it on multiple wikis, and the outcome is the same. X (talk) 12:37, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, but if a user is an admin but not a bureaucrat (s)he can't be able to make him/hermselves a permanent admin again. AlPaD (talk) 17:46, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, but it is quite simple for them to re-request it permanently. X (talk) 17:55, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't understand when they still haven't reached the limit that the policy says why they need to go through this process? AlPaD (talk) 19:15, 25 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@X: & @Justarandomamerican: AlPaD is correct, we don't give a grace period so do not give one. The policy says 3 months and after 3 months, their rights will be removed. Do not revert. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 16:19, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Again, the policy does not explicitly specify what to do with inactive users besides removing their rights after 3 months. It does not state that doing anything else is a violation of policy. It says nothing about grace periods beforehand or the like. You are reinstating a reversed administrative action to unilaterally reinstate indefinite adminship after X attempted to compromise, which is wheel warring. Please seek consensus on the community portal. Justarandomamerican (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Like justa said above, the policy states nothing stating grace periods should not be used. Their rights were set to be removed on June 3rd anyway, which is the correct date of rights removal. This is wheel warring, as the policy does not explicitly state not to use grace periods and because it doesn't change the outcome of the time of removal. I have re-instated the grace period because your revert was wheel-warring and not supported by policy. X (talk) 17:11, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Dmehus: Could you give your input? Regardless of if the policy does not explicitly state not to use grace periods, it doesn't say they should. @X: and @Justarandomamerican: You need to actually go off what the Policy explicitly states, not nitpick. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 18:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We are the ones nitpicking!!! Or are you? I was minding my own business and setting grace periods like I have been doing here and on other wikis for months. You out of nowhere make a fuss about it, even though policy says nothing against it and wheel war. But I am the nitpicking one? Makes no sense to me. X (talk) 18:32, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would suggest reading the topic on the Community Portal. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 18:33, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done. And ideally, this discussion should have occurred there in the first place in stead of clogging this users talk page. X (talk) 18:38, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You were the one to continue it. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 18:48, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Permissions removed[edit source]

Hello, Euphoria. Because you have not made an edit nor a logged action within the last three months, your rights have been removed in accordance with the inactivity policy. This removal is entirely procedural and does not reflect your behavior at all. If you plan to be active again and use the tools, you can request them back any time at the permissions page. If you have any questions or believe I made a mistake, please let me know. Thanks. Saint (talk) 02:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]