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== Add <code>(interwiki)</code> user right to Bureaucrat == | == Add <code>(interwiki)</code> user right to Bureaucrat == | ||
{{discussion top|Withdrawn [[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]] ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX|talk]]) 14:20, 31 January 2022 (UTC)}} | |||
Right now, bureaucrats do not have the <code>(interwiki)</code> user right (which allows you to edit [[Special:Interwiki]]) but they can grant (and remove) themselves and others an extra user right group (Interwiki admin) to get around this restriction. This is obviously inconvenient, so I suggest we '''bundle the <code>(interwiki)</code> user right into bureaucrat, and remove it from steward'''. [[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]] ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX|talk]]) 01:54, 16 December 2021 (UTC) | Right now, bureaucrats do not have the <code>(interwiki)</code> user right (which allows you to edit [[Special:Interwiki]]) but they can grant (and remove) themselves and others an extra user right group (Interwiki admin) to get around this restriction. This is obviously inconvenient, so I suggest we '''bundle the <code>(interwiki)</code> user right into bureaucrat, and remove it from steward'''. [[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]] ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX|talk]]) 01:54, 16 December 2021 (UTC) | ||
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* Procedurally, this proposal, though [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], is invalid as [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Stewards]] are the ''only'' community-elected, non-test administrators on Test Wiki. As such, the community has no capacity to restrict the <code>steward</code>, or even <code>sysadmin</code>, user group from having full access to the MediaWiki permissions toolkit. It's more than a bit bureaucratic (pardon the unintended pun) for a Steward to have to add a test user group (<code>bureaucrat</code>) to perform a non-test action related to the [[mw:Extension:Interwiki|Interwiki]] extension. Additionally, what if a user does ''not'' want <code>bureaucrat</code> permissions but ''does'' want to test the Interwiki extension? I have severe problems with requiring them to request a user group they do not want. I would, however, support amending the policy to require that interwiki administrators have the same level of trust as bureaucrats. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 21:59, 30 January 2022 (UTC) | * Procedurally, this proposal, though [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], is invalid as [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Stewards]] are the ''only'' community-elected, non-test administrators on Test Wiki. As such, the community has no capacity to restrict the <code>steward</code>, or even <code>sysadmin</code>, user group from having full access to the MediaWiki permissions toolkit. It's more than a bit bureaucratic (pardon the unintended pun) for a Steward to have to add a test user group (<code>bureaucrat</code>) to perform a non-test action related to the [[mw:Extension:Interwiki|Interwiki]] extension. Additionally, what if a user does ''not'' want <code>bureaucrat</code> permissions but ''does'' want to test the Interwiki extension? I have severe problems with requiring them to request a user group they do not want. I would, however, support amending the policy to require that interwiki administrators have the same level of trust as bureaucrats. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 21:59, 30 January 2022 (UTC) | ||
**Good point. I'll withdraw the proposal because a community vote isn't the best way to solve this issue. [[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]] ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX|talk]]) 14:18, 31 January 2022 (UTC) | **Good point. I'll withdraw the proposal because a community vote isn't the best way to solve this issue. [[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]] ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX|talk]]) 14:18, 31 January 2022 (UTC) | ||
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== Requesting for import of templates Sockpuppet and Sockpuppeter == | == Requesting for import of templates Sockpuppet and Sockpuppeter == | ||
