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| ==Proposal to upload higher quality user rights icons== | | ==Proposal== |
| I am proposing to update the user right icons to their higher quality versions. Anybody has opinions or concerns? Thanks. – [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 23:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :Seems fairly uncontroversial, go ahead. {{done| }} [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 12:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
| | Hello, I happy to here to discuss on my new proposal to make a mediawikipage for this [[User:Aviram7/js/all-in-one.js|this]] JavaScript that help to easily block and oversight or suppress the revision of block user, spammers. etc, this script is originally based on [[metawikimedia:User:WhitePhosphorus/js/all-in-one.js|User:WhitePhosphorus/js/all-in-one.js]] of metawikimedia, but this script needed to modified them, then it's script ready for use on Tesrwiki. |
| ::{{done}}. – [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 17:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Thank you, much better. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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| | *I think [[User:Aviram7/js/all-in-one.js]] is move to mediawiki namespace, then add this script in gadget and allow to sysop, crats, stewards for use on you're preferences. |
| On [[Test Wiki:Bureaucrats]], it says "Bureaucrat rights are required for any user seeking to gain [[<tvar name="SA">Special:MyLanguage/Test Wiki:System administrators</tvar>|system administrator]], [[<tvar name="SA">Special:MyLanguage/Test Wiki:Suppressors</tvar>|suppressor]], or [[<tvar name="S">Special:MyLanguage/Test Wiki:Stewards</tvar>|steward]]".
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| However, there seems to be a problem with the "system administrator" wikilink on that page - instead it leads me to [[Test Wiki:Suppressors]]. What could be the problem here? I don't know if I exclusively have this issue, or if it is the same for all users. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 15:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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| | Thanks ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 08:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
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| :{{done|Fixed}}. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 15:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC) | | :I would be fine with adding this as a gadget, but not on the common.js. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 10:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
| ::{{comment}} Also, found the issue; both links had <nowiki><tvar name=SA></nowiki> at the beginning. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 17:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC) | |
| ::This fix seems to have removed the MyLanguage variable entirely, I have instead specified another variable. Thanks for the temp fix, [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 22:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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| | ::{{Ping|X}} Hello, Well! we have no probelm, If you like more gadgets for use, please see my common. js and this gadget is very helpful, firstly please test this js and then we think what can I do later?. |
| {{Discussion top| | | Thanks ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 12:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
| {{done}}. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 15:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)}}
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| *'''Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom''' (optional): [[meta:User:EPIC]]
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| *[yes] I am familiar with all of [[:Category:Test Wiki policies|Test Wiki's policies]] and agree to follow them completely.
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| *[yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
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| *[yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
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| '''Other comments''': Hello there! Might seem odd, but now that our first non-steward suppressor has been chosen, I would like to offer my help and assist as the second one. I'm willing to help with suppression when needed, and I am available/contactable at most times of the day. I go by the same username on the Wikimedia projects, where I am an administrator at two larger wikis, and I have experience with handling sensitive information as a member of the [[meta:VRT|Wikimedia VRT]]. Beforehand I have read [[Test Wiki:Suppressors]], and the [[Test Wiki:Privacy policy|privacy policy]]. Also courtesy pinging {{ping|Justarandomamerican}} and {{ping|Drummingman}}. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 00:14, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
| | :This gadget would likely need to be restricted to stewards due to just how powerful it is. Being able to revert all of a users edits, delete all the pages they've created, and block them in one click is simply a lot. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
| :Just in case, I have made a confirmation edit on Wikimedia: [[:wikipedia:Special:Diff/1200184340|see here]] [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 00:17, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :<del>{{neutral}} Though you are a perfectly qualified candidate, I'd like to see the answer to one question, can you explain the need for another suppressor? There are currently 3 active people who are able to handle suppression. If there's a good need, I'll be supporting, as more than qualified! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)</del> <ins>See weak support comment below.</ins> [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Hello [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]]! There isn't necessarily the need, but it gives additional value, especially since two of the current stewards are less active, and as mentioned a bit further up, also gives different hours of coverage. FYI, my mainly available times are at most hours within the UTC+1 time zone (since I'm quite a night owl) with the exception for the early morning hours, and I regularly check my mail inbox, so I'm able to quickly act when needed. So, I am of course aware that this is not a role for testing, and I hope my answer is sufficient - feel free to ask further questions if needed. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 09:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Addition: If both stewards choose to approve this, I would suggest also checking that X is not completely against this :) [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 15:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{neutral}}, leaning oppose. Well qualified on other wikis, but has only had an account here for about a month. Also not sure if we need another but I can be swayed. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC) | |
| ::After considering the comments of both stewards, I still think I am going to stand at neutral (leaning oppose). They're no doubt qualified, but the 1 month of having an account is simply a deal breaker for me. :) [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:54, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{support|Weakest possible support}} I don't see much harm in you being given the tools purely to have an extra suppressor available. Perfectly qualified. <ins>However, the lack of time spent here is a bit concerning to me.</ins> [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{support}} leaning neutral, I don't really have any objections, but think a month is a bit early. I do take note that EPIC has [[meta:Stewards/Elections 2024/Statements/EPIC|applied]] to be a steward on Wikimedia, if he is elected, it could be an advantage in fighting cross-wiki vandalism. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 15:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :I am also curious how this will turn out. If it is successful, it will likely also take most of EPIC's time. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 16:23, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| ::I will see how it goes, but I hope to be able to split my activity between different wikis like I've been able to so far, and I should be able to work it out - and if not, I would of course be removed for inactivity per Test Wiki policy. Either way, right now this is mostly depending on Justarandomamerican, so I suggest pending his reply to begin with. If this is successful I do of course plan to take it easy at first, and ask a steward if in doubt. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 17:14, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{support}} Per above. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 19:37, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :At the moment, there seems to be a weak consensus. Relisting. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:19, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::There are two weak supports, one regular support, and one neutral. Averaging this out gets you around a roughly 75% support ratio. (S = 100, WS = 75, N = 50, WO = 25, O = 0) [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Clearly define suppression criteria in policy== | | :::X, You're right this js script is very powerful Use of this JavaScript should only be allowed by stewards and not allowed to use by any other privileged persons. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 03:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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| | ::::I've commented it out of your common.js page for the moment, as it could cause some serious mayhem if used improperly. Ask me if you need a test performed. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
| :{{On hold}} for internal discussion [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |
| ::{{done|Resolved}}. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:15, 8 February 2024 (UTC)}} | |
| Steward-defined suppression practices seems to have only worked in the past when only stewards and sysadmins had access to the tool, but it seems to only lead to inner confusion now that non-Stewards can have access to the bit. Therefore, there needs to be a set of clearly defined suppression criteria. Perhaps we could base these off [https://www.thetestwiki.org/wiki/The_Test_Wiki:Suppression_policy The Test Wiki]? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :<del>{{ping|Dmehus|Saint}}</del> Your input is invited. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | | ::::::@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] Hello, Thank you for removing this script from my common. js, I've already performed the after adding this script on my common. js, I think this js script is more useful for the stewards. {{Thank}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 15:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
| ::There is simply a disagreement on how to define serious vandalism. We have no disagreements with PII, copyright, and other suppressible edits. I don't see how using The Test Wiki's criteria would help at all as it doesn't address this. I don't see why there isn't simply an ''internal'' discussion about the definition. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 02:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ==RFC: Redo [[Test Wiki:Suppressors|suppression]] page== | | ==Replace text== |
| {{discussion top|{{Done}}. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:36, 10 February 2024 (UTC)}}
| | I've used it a lot in the past, and it saved a lot of time. But as of now, it's restricted to <u>stewards</u>. Why's that? [[User:Saint|Saint]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 04:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
| I propose replacing [[Test Wiki:Suppressors]] with [[User:X/Suppression guide]]. Let me know your thoughts. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 12:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :LGTM. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:48, 10 February 2024 (UTC) | | :It was found that a vandal who gained sysop rights could vandalize the [[Main Page]] or similarly important Steward protected pages using ReplaceText. I know it has a lot of utility for you, so feel free to send me a message on my talk page, or Drummingman on his with a request, ensuring that original text, new text, and namespace(s) are provided. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 12:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
| ::Great, super happy to hear that. Glad we could come to a consensus. @[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] just verifying that you're okay with this? [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 14:50, 10 February 2024 (UTC) | | ::Is it possible to allow interface administrators to use it? [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 13:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
| :::I'm okay with it. :) [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 17:00, 10 February 2024 (UTC) | | :::I suggested that to MacFan when I originally opened a security task about the issue. Me personally, I think it would be better to create a separate group that's able to use it, as IA is ''primarily'' intended to allow editing of script pages, though I am fine with bundling it in to IA (and Stewards) along with creating a separate group. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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| ==Sav== | | =='Crat sysop first requirement== |
| {{discussion top|{{not done}} as there is a lack of consensus amongst the stewards and community. Thank you, Sav, for applying. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 14:11, 20 February 2024 (UTC)}}
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| *'''Requested right''': Non-steward suppressor
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| *'''Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom''' (optional): N/A
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| *[Yes] I am familiar with all of [[:Category:Test Wiki policies|Test Wiki's policies]] and agree to follow them completely.
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| *[Yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
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| *[Yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
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| '''Other comments''': As a trusted and well-known user within the Test Wiki space, I believe I am qualified to be the next Non-steward suppressor. I believe being granted Non-steward suppressor would help X and the Steward team with lessening the load of work they may have to do in the future. As I live in the UK, I would be able to actively provide suppressions without compromising privacy. Please feel free to ask questions below.<!-- You may use this space to insert other comments relevant to your request --> [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 21:32, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :Hi Sav! One question that I assume the stewards will ask is this: Do you feel there is sufficient need for another NSS, given that we currently have three active and one pending application? [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:06, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
| | Recently, upon DR requesting bureaucrat, they were given it without first being an administrator. EPIC removed the crat right, and X restored it, stating that the requirement was pointless. To prevent a wheel war, I think it's best to set down community consensus on the issue. What do you, the reader, think of the requirement to be a sysop before being a bureaucrat? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 03:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
| ::Hello, X. As stated, this RfP is for Non-steward suppressor. I shall assume that is what you meant. I do feel there is sufficient need for another Non-steward suppressor due to the fact that having those with said rights from multiple timezones, is better than having a few all in the same. Regards, [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 23:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Yes, that is what I mean't. ''facepalm''. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::Thank you for the clarification, X. My above statement remains valid then. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 23:46, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :Hello! Just a quick question: Will you take long hiatuses in the future? Thanks, [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Hello, Justarandomamerican. I do not plan or see myself taking a long hiatus in the near future. As of now, I plan to be active. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 00:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *{{oppose}} I don't think we need a new non steward supressor. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 16:35, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Hello, {{Ping|LisafBia}}. Can you elaborate on why you think The Test Wiki doesn't need a new non steward supressor? As far as I know, there is only 1 and that is [[User:X|X]]. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 15:07, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Considering that the Stewards also have Supress authority, there are 5 suppressors in total and most of them are active. Therefore we don't need a new supressor. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 15:25, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::Is the current list. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 16:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::Thank you, X. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 16:31, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{o|Weak oppose}}, for the moment, we have enough active suppressors with the recent appointment of EPIC. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 15:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Thank you for your explanation. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 18:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Name Change Requests== | | :@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]]: I've support you're thoughts, This is test wiki not Wikipedia, we are here to testing of specific permission, firstly If any new user request for both rights, then firstly grant only sysop permission but not crats, because sysop have more permission on his group, crats is most important permission on the wiki, I don't understand why both user's make editwar in removing or adding crats permission from @DR, who received both permission after reviewing his request by an other crats. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 04:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
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| | ::I personally think that just like on other test wikis, there should some kind of requirement before being able to request crat, either an edit requirement (maybe something like 10 edits before being able to request bureaucrat would be a fair requirement if so?), or a requirement of a specific amount of days of having sysop before requesting crat (a day or two perhaps), or maybe a mix of both of those requirements. |
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| | ::The reason I think so is because unlike on other test wikis, the crat permission is quite powerful and can remove both bureaucrat and sysop rights. If it's given very liberally it can be quite dangerous. Now, I know DR from Wikimedia and they are a trusted user who I certainly don't think would abuse the bureaucrat rights, so I have nothing against them having crat. But, I don't have any intents to wheel war, the permissions have been given back and it can remain so. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 08:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
| Hi, could my name here be changed to Fullegente please? It's a name I've begun using elsewhere, such as Filmpedia and Wikimedia, and I'd like it to be my name here as well, as it's more unique than Piccadilly. Thank you! [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 15:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
| | :::My intention was also not to wheel war. I know EPIC mentioned some suggestions for "requirements" for the 'crat role. However, as of now, those do not exist, making the rule about being a sysop first pointless. There is some Wikimedia essay about not following the policies if doing so would prevent you from improving the site, but I can't remember what it was titled. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 11:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
| | :You can remove the bureaucrat right from my account since I won’t be using it. I have MediaWiki installed on my local machine for testing purposes, and I already have all the advanced rights there. Here on this test wiki, my goal is to assist others by deploying some important and useful scripts and translating help pages. Initially, I thought that crats have access to grant the interface admin right, but it appears they do not, so I no longer require this role. Could any Steward please grant the interface admin right to my account? I would like to deploy some useful gadgets. Also, for granting requirements, I believe granting the bureaucrat role should be discretionary. [[User:DR|DR]] ([[User talk:DR|talk]]) 09:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
| | :We should definitely set requirements for gaining crat. It is a powerful position, and any disruptive user can easily misuse it. Since EPIC knew DR , there would not be a problem, but if a random user came and requested sysop and crat, there is a chance of vandalism or disruption. I propose that a user must wait 24 hours and make 10 edits before requesting crat rights [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC) |
| | ::It's not a terribly powerful position, since it's mostly a testing right, but that being said, it ''does'' require an extra degree of trust as it includes extra permissions like <code>nuke</code> and <code>import</code>, which ''can'' cause vandalism that is time consuming to revert if used by unscrupulous actors. Since Justarandomamerican initiated the discussion, I will contribute here and allow Drummingman or MacFan4000 to close. Your suggestion of 10 edits is a good one, but I'd also add a time requirement and would suggest a minimum of a four day wait ''unless'' the user previously held user rights here, then the waiting period requirement is waived. We could also add in an alternate pathway to waive the waiting period requirement, such has having a confirmation edit from a mainstream wiki farm (Wikimedia, Fandom, or Miraheze) and being a known user in good standing there. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 01:31, 27 April 2024 (UTC) |
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| Hello, stewards. I would appreciate if you could also change my username to Saint. Thank you! [[User:Saint|Username]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 20:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{done}}. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 20:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
| | Hello, I am currently suffering from high powerful stress which is impairing my ability to work on test wiki and elsewhere, hence, I request the admins of test wiki to please remove my sysop + crats permission on my account, I will try to come back and edit here. Thanks to all the editors of test wiki for giving me a chance to test the tools of sysop and crats and I hope I have not broken any rules and regulations of test wiki.. {{Thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 04:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
| ::Can I be renamed to Fullegente please? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 20:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::{{on hold}} -- For this request, I would like responses from other fellow stewards and users. And specifically whether any objections. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 21:11, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::Just curious, why does my request need other opinions while Saint's didn't? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 21:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::That specifically has to do with your past here and that you have already been renamed several times. I think it is prudent that the community here can give his/her opinion, if there are no significant objections then I or another steward will rename you. Meanwhile, I ask if you will wait patiently? Greetings, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 21:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::::Yes, I will wait patiently. And I won't ask for anymore renames after this one. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 21:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::::Hmm. @[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] I'd say rename her once she gains enough trust to become a bureaucrat per the off-wiki discussion. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 21:32, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::I think it’s OK that Piccadilly should have her username changed in this moment as well. [[User:Saint|Saint]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 21:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::I agree with [[User:X|X]]. Piccadilly should wait until enough trust has been built via either achieving Bureaucrat or Administrator rights before requesting a rename. Given how they request one after every unblock, seems to me like they are trying to hide the past events. Regards, [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 00:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC).
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| Since I'm an admin now and I believe I've been responsible so far with that, can I be renamed now please? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 17:05, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{not done}}: Renaming you whilst you are restricted may cause confusion. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:37, 16 February 2024 (UTC) | | :{{d}} — You are free to reapply for user permissions when you return. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 08:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
| ::+1, also considering that Piccadilly just recently [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/ShadowAgunomu used a sock account on Wikimedia with the same talk page creation pattern as shown here]. No objections to renaming when trust is regained, though. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 20:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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| I created a Phabricator request. ([[phab:T89|T89]]). [[User:Saint|Saint]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 05:56, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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| | Hello everyone, I try to re- modifying Twinkle tool for use, but I don't think Twinkle Tool are working on Test Wiki; If you like I like to fix Twinkle tool for working on Test Wiki, so, I needed, please grant me Interface right for permanently for successfully complete this work.{{Thank}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 16:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
| | :I think that for the moment you can rework this script into personal subpages and we will see later about the rights because other interface admins will be able to add it as a gadget.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 16:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
| | ::{{Ping|DodoMan}} Hello, Do you know Twinkle Tool are not currently available in gadgets section and it's subpages are not currently exist here, We recreating those pages and interface admin right are more help to edit and create js pages on Test Wiki.Cheers!~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 17:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
| | :::{{Ping|Aviram7}}Yes I know the tool it’s inavailable but you can rework script on your subpages. At worst, I will create these mediawiki pages and rework them with you. And also you need to request rights to Test Wiki:Request Permissions.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 17:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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| ==[[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]]'s ban==
| | :::{{re|DodoMan}} That's Great! well I going to request for Interface permission on request page and try to creating twinkle subpages on userspace and I beleive our hard struggle will be positive result proved.~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 17:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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| For context, this user was banned by the community for cross-wiki abuse on a wiki whose owner has apparently engaged in a deception campaign against their own volunteers: "The ban is not required as firstly, I don't think that actions on other wikis require blocks/bans everywhere, and secondly, the owner of said wiki was found to be abusing on their wiki and deceiving their own stewards. Hence why I believe my ban should be lifted." [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 20:18, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
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| | ::::I requested for Interface permission on [[TW:RfP]]. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 17:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
| *{{support}} unban: It's no longer even possible to prove he committed the alleged actions, and even if he did, it's not worthy of a community ban or block because no off-wiki harassment has occurred. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 20:21, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *{{support}} as well. I agree that one's actions on one wiki shouldn't lead to sanctions everywhere. Plus, the other wiki involved is no longer functional, and I think he should be given another chance. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 20:31, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Perhaps if Zippybonzo is unblocked, it might help to havr an interaction ban between him and Cocopuff? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 15:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *{{support}} per both statements above. [[User:Saint|Saint]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 20:57, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *<s>{{Oppose|Strongest oppose}} [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 00:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)</s><small> Struck by [[User:X|X]] as user has voted twice. </small>
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| *{{support}} --[[User:PB2008|PB2008]] ([[User talk:PB2008|talk]]) 00:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *{{oppose|Strongest oppose}} there is soo many reasons for me to go on and on about zippy, however i will try to stay as breif as i can, while you may think his actions should Not carry over i believe it should in the past he has told users to go raid a wiki [https://ibb.co/mNqtfw1 link here], and has also raided a wiki while being a system admin in the past with inappropriate images Ruining the wiki [https://ibb.co/CPtKnPb link here] and [https://ibb.co/gzxgyFk link 2] with this all being said zippy has recently abused multiple accounts on the wiki farm filmpedia.us and his actions are being ignored while everyone believes im responsible for sockpuppeting, (False) you are claiming zippy is all innocent and im not, i must also mention that user agent isnt always accurate and therefore the proof against me is hereby invalid please see [https://www.google.com/search?q=is+user+agent+accurate&sca_esv=1ba2041d0738a613&sxsrf=ACQVn09Bxvas8BcXZbmYkmUIC0u5UjTKZw%3A1708353347201&source=hp&ei=Q2fTZaWxCfeKur8PnISDiAY&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZdN1U31nMNeJldf3BuYqI_iLXcDlmAa-&oq=is+user+agent&gs_lp=Egdnd3 this link for more information] i will also mention zippy in the past has also said he was gonna invoice me for the work he has done after no longer being a system admin which was volunteer work he has also, threaten to take me to court in dms. zippybonzo has also manipulated globe AKA X many times recently zippy requested a link to the filmpedia discord server which being banned and has sent multiple accounts into the server spamming it. he has also posted nonsense into the server, and the server link was once again provided by globe by his request WHile of course user agent might not be valid proof i still have a reason to beleve zippy is behind the multiple accounts used to sock the wiki including "Coconutworst owner" and a few others i wont mention at this time, with all this being said zippy is the only user with a negative opinion towards me as a owner of filmpedia.us and therefore is a valid reason for me to believe he is behind the sockpuppeting of filmpedia.us and his other actions. i wouldn't recommend unblocking his account at all. nor would i recommenced or trust him for any user rights --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 14:48, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| <s>*{{oppose}} Per Cocopuff's comments. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 15:01, 19 February 2024 (UTC)</s>
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| ::Hi Sav. As a former steward and checker on Filmpedia, I can confirm that Cocopuff is behind all of the socking on his own wiki. He has a history of doing so on Miraheze as well. It is true, though, that Zippy did troll the wiki, but that was months ago and only because he wanted to give cocopuff a "taste of his own medicine." I say this not to justify Zippy's actions, but to provide some context to them. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 15:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Once again user agent is always accurate and you can't just believe what someonr says without proof @[[User:X|X]] [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:38, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::Fyi I didn't troll my own wiki if you are gonna say zippys proof isnt valid than nor is mine also tast of my own medicine isn't a valid reason for what he did [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:39, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::Nor is it an excuse you just believe whatever someone tells you without valid proof [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:41, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::::I could show proof, but that would involve leaking both of your UAs & IP addresses, which I will not do. I would disagree that it "isn't a valid reason" because you literally did the same thing to your own wiki. I also have screenshots of you calling Zippy racial slurs. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 15:42, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::::I don't really care again user agent Isnt valid proof you are also banned from filmpedis netwotk for what you did in the server, I'm not commenting anymore on this my vote stays the same youve done what zippy told you what to do multiple times this isn't the first time [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:51, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::I do understand your points and would like to discuss this further via a private conversation on Discord. Could you please send my account, brelade, a direct message. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 15:48, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::@[[User:Sav|Sav]] user agent isn't valid see the link I posted from Google [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::"I'm not commenting anymore" [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 15:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::::You know you are gonna be blacklisted if you share the ips @[[User:X|X]] [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::::Nervous your socking will be discovered? Also, I just said above "I could show proof, but that would involve leaking both of your UAs & IP addresses, which I will not do. " [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 15:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::::::I'm never giving you perms again @[[User:X|X]] [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :::::::::If u do it [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| * {{support}} - After communication between X and myself, it is clear that Zippybonzo deserves a second chance. I have striked my initial vote and I agree with revoking the ban on Zippybonzo. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 18:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *{{d}} -- By concensus, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 19:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ==[[User:Zippybonzo (testing account)]]== | | I propose converting it to an abusive username prevention filter. Any objections? [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 15:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC) |
| | :Nope,is good for me.(oh no is my bot account)[[User:BotRafdodo|BotRafdodo]] ([[User talk:BotRafdodo|talk]]) 16:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)~ |
| | :None. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC) |
| | ::Standby... writing the regex... [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 02:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
| | :::and WHEW!!! {{done}}. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], you might want to remove the account creation conditions from filter 92 since I implemented them to filter 120. [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 03:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
| | ::::Any objections if I set this to disallow? [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 01:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC) |
| | :::::LGTM. I'm not sure the likelihood of LTAs and blocked users trying to use variations of known usernames, but it can't hurt, either. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC) |
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| Should this account perhaps also be unblocked now that the owner is unbanned? Asking as the block is a steward action. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 18:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
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| :Indeed. {{d}}, Thanks for the notification. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 18:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC) | | As in the above discussion, I have established [[User:Harvici/Bureaucrat requirements|policy]]-related criteria for the CRT position, as previously stated by Dmehus, " {{tq|It's not [...] require an extra degree of trust as it includes extra permissions like nuke and import which can cause vandalism [...]}}. [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 18:31, 27 April 2024 (UTC) |
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| ==Nomination of EPIC for Stewardship== | | ===Adoption Discussion=== |
| {{Discussion top|Unsuccessful: Firstly, I would like to thank the participants for voting. Looking at the results, I see 1 weak support and 2 normal support. 2 votes against and 1 neutral. The general consensus is that EPIC can be trusted as a Wikimedia-steward, but that the nomination is actually too early, since the user has only been active here for a relatively short time, and we already have enough stewards. In short, no consensus to promote. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 15:11, 6 March 2024 (UTC)}}
| | As a policy, this would practically just codify community norms on how to grant crat rights. I propose (and support) adopting this as policy. |
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| Ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to introduce a candidate for the Steward tools, [[User:EPIC|EPIC]]. Already a member of our suppression team and a Wikimedia Steward, I believe he could use the extra tools to combat long-term and cross-wiki abuse, especially where that same abuse is occurring on Wikimedia projects. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 22:49, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
| | {{support}} [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 18:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC) |
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| :Thanks for the trust and for the nomination! I have acknowledged it, and will add that I am currently thinking about it, and will come back in a short while for my final decision. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 11:28, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ::It's my pleasure to introduce you for consideration. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:33, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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| Please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: OK, I have been thinking about this for quite a while. I am a little hesitant, considering we do have two active stewards for the moment. But OK, I am here regularly and I do already have CheckUser access on Wikimedia Login Wiki as part of my steward role, and access to other steward tools which are also included in the toolkit here on Test Wiki. So, with some hesitation, but also with pleasure, I accept. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 13:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *{{support|Weak support}} EPIC is quite trusted. But given the active stewards, I don't think a steward is needed for now, but still support. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 16:32, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *{{support}} as nom. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:54, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *I support him becoming a steward. I think he'll do a great job. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 14:00, 29 February 2024 (UTC) copied from talk page by [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]])
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| *{{o}}. The same comments I left in the NSS request still apply. The user still has a relatively short tenure. Our four current stewards have been active members of the wiki for 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, and 8 years. EPIC has been a user of TestWiki for around two months. I do not feel that this is near enough time to gain access to our most advanced toolkit, especially checkuser tools. If the user wasn't a Wikimedia steward, I doubt this request would have any chance of succeeding because of all of these reasons. I also have concerns about how active the candidate will be now that they have large responsibilities at Wikimedia. I find it unwise to apply two high level permissions at almost the same time without knowing how much time you will have to fulfill both duties. Lastly, I don't find the reasoning (combat crosswise abuse) to be persuasive because we only have one LTA here, Piccidally, who is currently not fully blocked. For all of these reasons, I am opposed. Best of luck. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 14:20, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *:I do agree with these concerns, and would probably not have applied for this myself (it's also why I was a tiny bit hesitant). In this case one of the stewards had endorsed the request, and I have used some of the steward tools, which is why I accepted. Regarding the activity concern I'm here every now and then and I mostly see this as a side wiki (just like Drummingman is a sysop at nlwiki while being a steward here). [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 16:04, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *{{o}}. As it's been said many times before "we do not need another Steward". You are new to this wiki and only just been granted NSS. We have active Stewards that have made a name for themself over the span of multiple years. EPIC has been active for roughly 2 months. Good luck! [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 14:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *{{neutral}}, given the supporting/opposing votes happening. You are trusted, but since you're around a couple of months, I decided to remain neutral for these reasons. – [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] 🤔 ([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#1830C4">problem?</span>]]) 22:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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| *:Quite honestly, there's a perfect balance of argument strength between support and oppose; both sides have a point. This is likely to be closed as no consensus to promote. I think the lack of history on this specific wiki can be forgiven due to them being a Wikimedia Steward, but others may not think the same.[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 22:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Discussion on a [[User:Justarandomamerican/Usernames|potential username policy]]==
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| What does everyone think of this? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:51, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :Looks good, but we could add a list of what is and what is not allowed, and could use some better formatting. Also, we have a filter that warns users creating accounts with misleading usernames. – [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] 🤔 ([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#1830C4">problem?</span>]]) 05:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ::List is {{done|done}}. Any suggestions for formatting? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ::I've fixed the formatting up a bit based on intuition. Any other suggestions? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:04, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :::LGTM [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 02:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :I have made a change that does not allow "Usernames that contain any non-public, private, or personally identifiable information about another person or contain any other information that would be deemed appropriate for suppression." [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ===Adoption discussion===
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| As a policy, this would practically just codify community norms around usernames. I propose (and support) adopting this as policy. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:20, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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| *{{support}}. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 14:28, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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| *I don't think it is necessary at the moment, but it can still be given a chance. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 15:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :᛫ {{support}} [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Rename request from 64andtim to Codename Norte==
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| I am requesting a rename from 64andtim to Codename Norte, and 64andsomeone to Códigonombre Alguien to match the same usernames on Wikimedia; these usernames also look better. Thank you. – [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] 🤔 ([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#1830C4">problem?</span>]]) 18:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{done}}. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Rename Request: Piccadilly to Fullegente==
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| {{Discussion top|{{not done}} Piccadilly will not be renamed at this time. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)}}
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| Hi, I would like my name to be changed to Fullegente, as that is the name I use in several online games and some other online communities. This will be my last rename request here, as I am aware that I have changed my name a few times here already. Thank you! [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 12:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{oppose}} That username was used by a LTA on EnWiki and then locked for XWiki abuse, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=Fullegente&namespace=all&tagfilter=&start=&end=&limit=50], presumably you, since you claim to be Skiyomi who is '''WMF Banned'''. You don't need to change your name ''again''. [[User:Seawolf35|Seawolf35]] ([[User talk:Seawolf35|talk]]) 15:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Yes, I did use that name on Wikimedia (and yes I am Skiyomi), but I'm not sure what my status there has to do with matters here. As long as I behave myself here, I don't think that's relevant. And like I said, this will be my last rename request here. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 15:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{neutral}} due to Seawolf35's concern, but as long as you don't violate your one-strike rule, no issues here. [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 16:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Need for new system administrator==
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| As we presently only have 1 system administrator, I encourage anyone who would meet the technical requirements to be a [[Test Wiki:System administrators|system administrator]] to apply here on the community portal. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:07, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :I know I'm nowhere near active enough, and I don't know any PHP, but, out of curiosity, what exactly is the role of a system administrator here? [[User:Sneezless|Sneezless]] ([[User talk:Sneezless|talk]]) 19:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Dear, @[[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] can you tell about your work here? [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 19:36, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Sysadmins are responsible for keeping mediawiki up to date, installing extensions and skins, and maintaining the linux server that Test Wiki runs on. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 15:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :Considering this is a small Wiki, wouldn't one SysAdmin be fine? [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 23:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ::One is actually not enough because you are dependent on one person, which is very undesirable, vulnerable and also potentially dangerous if that person leaves or is inactive for a while, you have no one else. So, a second one is very desirable. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 16:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Hello, Harvici, it is as Drummingman eloquently communicates above. Having a second system administrator would serve many useful functions, such as redundancy and utility. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Yes I now understand the need of another System administrator [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Template Merge==
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| Good morning, everyone!
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| I'd like to propose turning [[Template:Wikibreak|User:Sav/Wikibreak]] into a fully-fledged template. I've invested about a day refining it to better suit The Test Wiki and its needs. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 00:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :I will do it. [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 01:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ::It was for a vote, to see what everyones opinions would be. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 03:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :::I meant that I will implement this if there are no objections, to clarify. [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 04:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :Sure, why not? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ::Thank you! I'm going to fine tune the documentation for this wiki also. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 01:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :::{{done}} ([[Template:wikibreak|Wikibreak]]) [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 01:29, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Proposal: Reduce non-system administrator steward inactivity period==
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| With the ability of any Steward to use CheckUser, a year is much too long for one to be inactive. Therefore, I propose the following: 1. Non system administrator stewards' maximum inactivity period is reduced to 6 months. <s> 2. The 1 hour reclamation of rights period is increased to 3 days (72 hours). </s> [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:37, 8 March 2024 (UTC) partially withdrawn 03:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{support}} - This makes a lot more sense. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 02:56, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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| *<s>{{oppose}}.</s> While I agree with reducing the steward inactivity period to 6 months, I don't agree with changing the hour to three days. If you are completely inactive for half a year, you shouldn't be able to get your permissions back without another community weight in. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 03:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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| *:I have removed proposal 2. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 03:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :::Thank you. As such, I now {{support}}. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 03:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{comment}} What is the difference between Non System administrator's steward and just a steward [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 23:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ::The former is a steward who is not a system administrator. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :::I don't have much experience here, but why should the inactivity period for only non-Sys admins change and not for Sys admins? Since both of them have checkuser [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ::::That has to do with the fact that we have, only, 1 System Administrator. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 15:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{support}} [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 17:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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| ==Discussion on a [[User:Harvici/Signatures|potential Signature policy]]==
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| As there is a discussion on a potential username policy, I thought this would be the perfect time to get through [[User:Harvici/Signatures|a potential signature policy]]. Please feel free to add your own suggestions. [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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| == Question ==
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| How to get translate admin right?
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| Thanks
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| [[User:Rafdodo|Rafdodo]] ([[User talk:Rafdodo|talk]]) 18:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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| :{{ping|Rafdodo}} Welcome to Test Wiki! The translate administrator right is bundled into the administrator group. You automatically have its rights. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Done — You are free to reapply for user permissions when you return. Drummingman (talk) 08:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Support Harvici (talk) 18:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)