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Adminship

Hello, and welcome to the admin tools test wiki! Your account has been given admin rights, so feel free to start testing right away. If you have any questions, let us know.

--LOCO 🔥 00:52, 5 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Bureaucrat rights

Hello. Your account has been given bureaucrat rights, so feel free to start testing advanced functions listed straight away. If you have any questions, let us know. LOCO 🔥 01:07, 6 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Be careful

Hello. Please don't write comments like this. Thank you! AlPaD (talk) 19:23, 7 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Talk:Test page

Please stop posting racist remarks on the Talk:Test Page. --LisafBia (talk) 11:32, 11 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Blocking from 11.04.2022

Notice.

Hello, Seiyena.

Please do not close active discussions as you did on Dmehus' talk page. Just because you have Administrator rights again does not mean you can close active discussions freely.

Regards, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 16:18, 16 April 2022 (UTC).Reply

Trayfel I closed it because I thought there was no longer an issue. My waiting time for admin rights has expired and I have them back again, so I didn't see anything else to discuss or for Dmehus to comment on. Also I thought admins were allowed to close discussions. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 18:07, 16 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Piccadilly: Thank you for your response. However, that was a discussion on a user page that needed a response from a Steward. If the discussion was closed, we would have stated that. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 18:52, 16 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Bureaucrat removed

Hello. In accordance with previous log entries stating that "your bureaucrat rights may be reinstated on or after May 1st", I have removed bureaucrat. Other users, if you disagree, then feel free to revert my actions. Also, feel free to ask me if you want administrator back. Thanks. —3PPYB6 (talk) 01:38, 17 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Your comments

Hello. Please stop comments like this. Thank you! AlPaD (talk) 05:47, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

@AlPaD: I am very sorry that this user, after the recent scandal, continues to write whatever he wants. Eh, nothing has changed... Very sorry. Can he get acquainted with this list: w:List_of_ethnic_slurs — Regards,Kazrok4545 Talk 14:43, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hi. First, I am a she. Second, about my edits....I will make a more serious effort not to post things like that. I really should have more sense than to repeat that after the recent incident. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 14:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
I apologize. My English is bad :(( — Regards, Kazrok4545 Talk 14:55, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Kazrok4545: @Piccadilly: OK, thanks for your replies! AlPaD (talk) 15:01, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Piccadilly: Hello! Why did you write such a comment again? AlPaD (talk) 19:06, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Because I was being really dumb. :( Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:08, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Can you stop these comments please? Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 19:10, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Yes. I will. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:11, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

  The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thank for your reverts and deletions of blatant vandalism from 162.221.168.71, a cross-platform, cross-wiki long-term abuse case. Based on my initial Steward review of the situation, there was no further abuse, which is good, and you, DarkMatterMan4500, and LisafBia all handled the situation great. Dmehus (talk) 08:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Partial block

Hello, sorry but I blocked your account from namespace "talk" for 2 hours because you didn't stopped abusive comments. Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 14:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

That sounds fair after what I did. I'll wait out the block and not remove it. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 14:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Also, as long as I don't put any more bad words here, can we not get the Stewards involved in this? Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 16:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Seiyena, frankly you have been given multiple chances to stop this vile behavior. We as a community have been VERY lenient towards you and have given you more chances than you deserved. If it were down to me, you would have been completely blocked from this project as a whole. Pinging @Dmehus: & @MacFan4000: for their opinion. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 19:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Partial, temporary block by AlPaD was okay. This is partially my fault as I meant to try and deploy Arcversin's abuse filter here, and add an abusefilter-maintainer user group, grantable by Stewards at Steward discretion, to allow Arcversin to implemented required amendments to restricted abuse filters. Given Seiyena's useful counter-vandalism work, though they should've used rollback instead of delete, I've restored the permissions with I'm comfortable. Administrator may be regranted, on or after May 1st, in bureaucrat discretion. After that, bureaucrat may be regranted, with a Steward's blessing on or after May 15th. Dmehus (talk) 23:31, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
I have deployed the abuse filter from Miraheze here. — Arcversin (talk) 01:16, 19 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Request for Interface administrator rights

Hello, yes I remove vote. Thank you! AlPaD (talk) 16:20, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

User:Continental

Hello! Would you like to block this account? Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 19:09, 20 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that would be good. Thanks! Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:16, 20 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
  Done Thank you for honesty! AlPaD (talk) 19:20, 20 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for blocking that account. I had made it so I could get admin on it and thus still use the admin powers while this account was "out", so to speak. But I know that wouldn't be a good thing for me to do. And I won't make any more accounts here. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 20:28, 20 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

question

Why did you remove my comment?--Q8j (talk) 02:16, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

To be honest, I was hoping someone else would see that and grant me sysop at least temporarily so I could fix my test abuse filter. Sorry. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 02:18, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • That's a decision of steward's, not mine. And bureaucrats can't override it. If you want to edit AbuseFilter, I recommend you to ask Dmehus, instead of creating multiple accounts or concealing my comments.--Q8j (talk) 02:28, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
All right. I'll do that. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 02:44, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

New Section =

These are just notes to myself.

4/21/2022: Currently taking a little break from here. I will see you all soon.

Edit 4/22/2022: I said I was on a break here, but let's change that to a partial break. I'll still be lurking here and comment some, but not test as actively for a few days.

Testing filter

Given that your test abuse filter prevented you from editing your user page, I've disabled it for you considering that you can't edit it. — Arcversin (talk) 17:51, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 17:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Be careful please

Hello, please stop write comments like this. Thank you! AlPaD (talk) 10:42, 22 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

This needs to stop.

Seiyena, you need to stop posting racial comments. You have been given chance after chance and yet, you still continue doing the racist actions.

With all due respect, you are hindering any chance of being able to request permissions in the future. It is disgusting and unacceptable to be doing this.

I suggest you stop editing completely and take some time away from the Wiki. If you need any help with stopping this behavior, please do not hesitate to reach out to me.

Regards, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 09:47, 23 April 2022 (UTC).Reply

I will do my best to stop those kinds of comments, even if they're being stopped by the filter. I can't say I'm convinced that I need to take a total break from here, but I'll give it some consideration. And I'll let you know if I need help from you. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 12:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

i think you sent nonsense

???--S871bot (talk) 16:12, 23 April 2022 (UTC) Maybe. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 16:16, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

I hope you can calm down.

--S871bot (talk) 16:34, 23 April 2022 (UTC) I'm calm and why did you block me? Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 16:38, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

@S871bot: please unblock me. I have not done anything to deserve a block. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 16:47, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

You should look at this page, maybe it will help with your problem.--S871bot (talk) 17:18, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

@S871bot: I know what disruptive editing is, and I don't think I was being disruptive since this is a test wiki. In any case, I really don't feel that this block is warranted. Please remove it. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 17:37, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

If you feel like I really deserve a block, please talk to one of the stewards here @MacFan4000: or @Dmehus:. And also, I don't need to calm down, I'm calm already. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 17:53, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

i give you patroller and Reviewers, Translate administrators

--想舞花 (talk) 16:46, 24 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! Now I can test more. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 16:47, 24 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Evading abuse filter

By evading abuse filter and continously making inappropriate comments while promising that you will stop at the same time, you have successfully proven that Dmehus's faith in you has wasted. Do not repeat such behaviour. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 01:03, 25 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

I realize some of my behavior here lately has been bad, and I will stop trying to "test the filter". But I don't think all the faith in me has been wasted. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 01:23, 25 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Seiyena, we have lost all faith in you. You have been given countless opportunities and yet, you take us for granted. You played Dmehus like a fool and right now, you are only embarrassing yourself. Honestly, you are a good example of what a bad faith editor is. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 02:01, 25 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Note on Proposed Change to abuse filter 88

I just want to write this down for myself to remember so I can propose it when I get back from my break.

Right now filter 88 is set to simply disallow the action that is trying to be performed. Maybe that should be changed to instead issue a 3-day block any time the filter is triggered as well as remove from any special groups like admin or bureaucrat. I think that might make it more effective at its job and also not cause it to be triggered so much. This proposal would need a steward's help to implement if it's approved since it involves adding restricted actions. But I do think this might be beneficial to the target of the filter. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 15:10, 25 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Note to Everyone Here

Hi everyone, I just want to say that from this point forward, I will make a serious effort to show that I am truly here in good faith. I apologize for ignoring the numerous warnings I recieved and continuing to use offensive language. I know that at this point simple words are not enough but I will show that they have true meaning with my actions. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 22:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Can I be unblocked please?

I'm ready to come back from my break. Thanks! Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 20:24, 28 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

5月1日,欢迎你的回归。

--S871 (talk) 05:23, 29 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

For those who don't want to translate that yourself, it's "Welcome back on May 1st." I am one (as you are three) 12:44, 29 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! I look forward to returning to my testing as an admin and bureaucrat. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 12:47, 29 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

autopatrol give you.

--S871 (talk) 05:30, 29 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thank you :) Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 12:48, 29 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Regarding block I set

You've removed the block I set saying "isn't necessary".

The reason why I blocked you is very clear. It is because you attempted to gain rights you are not allowed to have many times(Test Wiki:Request for permissions/Archive10).

You said blocking "isn't necessary", so I don't reblock you for now.

If you don't request BC until May 15th, then it's fine.

But if you attempt to gain BC by concealing that it's prohibited by steward(like you did here), then unblocking will be treated as an abuse of admin right. Of course, there will be consequences.--Q8j (talk) 10:57, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

As a steward I endorse the partial block and I will ask you to leave it or you risk loosing rights. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 12:35, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
All right, I will leave the block alone. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 12:48, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • MacFan4000's block is steward action. It shouldn't be tested with. though I don't know whether you meant to do it or you've done it accidentally, you disabled autoblock. In the other word, you've weakened steward's block. Attempting to do so again may result in revocation of your permissions.--Q8j (talk) 19:21, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
I thought there wouldn't be any harm in testing the block as long as I kept the page included in the block. As for the autoblock, I usually turn it off when testing blocks on myself, so wasn't thinking that by doing so I was interfering with a steward's action. I apologize, I think I'll just refrain from testing blocks until May 15. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:31, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

HI sei. sorry i cannot give you b right.

--想舞花 (talk) 09:31, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

It's okay. I'll continue testing admin powers for now and ask again on May 15. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 09:33, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

I welcome you back.

--想舞花 (talk) 03:18, 24 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! It is good to be back. And thanks for admin too! Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 03:19, 24 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Maybe only I can understand you here.--想舞花 (talk) 03:21, 24 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

give you Interwiki administrator.

You already have this permission.--想舞花 (talk) 17:35, 24 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

i am Vanished.

bye bye--S871 (talk) 19:18, 24 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Bye. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:22, 24 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Your block for yourself

Hello! I don't think you did anything. I think you can unblock yourself. AlPaD (talk) 09:21, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

The reason I feel responsible for the recent events regarding 想舞花 and also the actions of Mini14 is because both users were doing questionable things regarding my request for permissions. If I hadn't asked, then none of this would ever have been an issue. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 09:24, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
I understand, but I don't think it's your fault. I think he became suspicious because of the robot's actions and not because of your request. AlPaD (talk) 09:39, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
All right, I unblocked myself. Thanks for talking about this with me. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 10:04, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
your welcome :) AlPaD (talk) 10:09, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

  The Special Barnstar
you have an email by me. 想舞花 (talk) 10:08, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Permissions assigned.

Hello, Seiyena.

I have assigned you the 'crat permission.

Please do not let us down or revert to your old ways, I have faith in you.

Regards, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 13:05, 26 May 2022 (UTC).Reply

Thank you. I will show that I really have changed my ways here. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 13:39, 26 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

User:Sierpnia

Hello! Why did you block the user? Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 19:27, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Because that is actually my alt account that I had forgotten completely about until a few weeks earlier. I used it to edit here some but decided today that I should only have one active account here. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:29, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Can you write on Sierpnia's talk page as Sierpnia to confirmation? AlPaD (talk) 19:44, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I will do that. The reason I didn't mark it as my alt in the block summary is because I wanted to handle this as discreetly as possible. I thought that if others knew about it (since I did use the alt during a block), I would get in trouble here again and I really didn't want that to happen. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:50, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 19:55, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Can I please be unblocked?

I know some of my actions were disruptive, but since they were stopped by the filter, I don't see how they justify being blocked and stripped of all my rights. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 04:30, 29 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

  Done, as we do have a rather strict special purpose guidance abuse filter Arcversin added here, so let's try that. That being said, please review your abuse log as instruction to inform what you need to do to successively operate in a community environment. Also, with regard to revision deletions, this and this should have been undone if they were tests. Revision deletion should almost never be used to hide administrator actions performed. Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 04:55, 29 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I will review the log and not revision delete things unnecessarily. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 05:07, 29 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Editing AF#88

I don't know how many "final" warnings have been given so far, but be aware that the next time you edit it your adminship and cratship will be revoked, broadly construed. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 10:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

So far I haven't been given any final warnings. And the filter said it was throttled so I turned off the filter then turned it on again so it would work again. But I won't edit that filter any more.Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 10:57, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
@NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh: - Please see this comment by Dmehus before revoking admin & cratship. Please also note that Seiyena has not been issued any final warnings since having their permissions reinstated. Regards, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 12:53, 31 May 2022 (UTC).Reply
Trayfel Dmehus said we're guiding Seiyena, not punishing, and I'd have followed that had they not reverted Chrs's change or disabled the abuse filter, just as what they did when being blocked by MacFan. Yes, they did unblock themself despite a formal warning not to do so. If there is no "final" warning yet, this will be the first one and the last one for them, as you say, after "having their permissions reinstated"; we don't recount warnings just because we gave them back some flags. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 18:28, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
I agree that I should not have initially reverted Chrs' change to the abuse filter. I had done that because I felt that the restriction added to it wasn't necessary. However, after talking on IRC with him, I reinstated his change. The only reason I disabled the filter afterwards was because I got a notification saying that the filter was throttled, so I tried to fix that the way I knew how to, by disabling and then reenabling the filter again. As for unblocking myself previously, I thought that matter was in the past and not relevant to anything now. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:02, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Little test

The darkness is coming for you

Your signature.

Hello, Seiyena.

I hope this message finds you well.

I recently noticed your signature and realized it goes Wikipedia's policy on signatures and thus, goes against the Test Wiki's.

Please see the following on what Wikipedia says about custom signatures.

  • A customised signature should make it easy to identify your username.
  • A distracting, confusing, or otherwise unsuitable signature may adversely affect other users. For example, some editors find that long formatting disrupts discourse on talk pages, or makes working in the edit window more difficult.
  • It is common practice for a signature to resemble to some degree the username it represents.
  • Always keep the time/date-stamp: these are used by bots to determine when a discussion is eligible to be archived.

A comprehensive list of all guidelines on signatures can be found here.

Please change your signature to meet with these policies, cheers.

Kind regards, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 15:40, 9 June 2022 (UTC).Reply

Trayfel   Done Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 15:45, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Partial block

Hello, Seiyena.

You have been blocked as per request for 7 days from today. Enjoy your break. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 13:50, 11 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. I think it'll be good for me to take a step back and test things I can without any advanced permissions and maybe we can reassess things in a week (unless someone says otherwise). Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 15:26, 11 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hello, I corrected your block, I thought you were blocked twice from the same page, but the one page is redirect. I fixed it. AlPaD (talk) 18:31, 12 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

  The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thank for your reverts and deletions of blatant vandalism from 162.221.168.71, a cross-platform, cross-wiki long-term abuse case. Based on my initial Steward review of the situation, there was no further abuse, which is good, and you, DarkMatterMan4500, and LisafBia all handled the situation great. Dmehus (talk) 08:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

About the most recent filter 88 hit

Just making a note here that I definitely will not go back to using bad words or slurs here like I used to do. I actually didn't think that would be stopped by the filter; I intended to make that page and then delete it. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 12:29, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

I’m just questioning why you did it anyway, even if it didn’t trigger, someone would notice and then fix filter 88. , Can you provide a reason as to why you tried to trigger it anyway. Zippybonzo (talk) 21:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Because I wanted to make a test page to delete, and at the time I was thiniking what I posted about something in real life. Since it wasn't insulting or name-calling, I didn't see anything wrong with using that on the test page. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:43, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Any explanation on the triggering on the 25th? Also, I put the request on hold until I get some opinions. (ping on reply)Zippybonzo (talk) 21:47, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
The one with the random letters was me doing something silly. Like I said above, I thought it wasn't too significant because I wasn't insulting anyone or using slurs. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:57, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Ok, I’m not in a position to answer the request without some other crat opinions, but I would probably lean towards granting if you don’t intentionally do something that you know triggers filter 88. I am pleased about there slurs stopping and I think you migh end up waiting another week just because the other crats want that. But I am quite lenient, also, are you FirstNoelle on PublicTestWiki, just because someone on Qualitypedia or whatever it’s called blocked FirstNoelle as a sock of your account there. And given most of the users here are also on that wiki, that might change things. Zippybonzo (talk) 22:06, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

No, I am not FirstNoelle on any wiki. But I am ApexAgunomu. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 22:10, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ok, thanks for telling me this stuff. Zippybonzo (talk) 22:14, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 22:18, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Your recent actions

May I ask why you felt it appropriate to upload pornographic content to TestWiki? — Arcversin (talk) 23:22, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

I had that screenshot lying on my phone and since I intended to delete the image immediately after uploading it, I never thought anyone would see it. Thus, I thought there was no harm if I did that. But I won't upload any more pictures like that. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 23:27, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Why did you upload it in the first place? — Arcversin (talk) 23:29, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
I was testing image uploading and since I didn't have a lot of time, I chose the first image I came across. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 23:41, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hello, Seiyena. Your actions are inexcusable. Considering the countless chances we have given you, just for you to abuse them, I think it is fair to say you are no longer welcome to the Test Wiki's sysop permissions. However, if a Steward disagrees with this, then of course you can create a new RFP. There is no excuse to upload pornographic content to the TestWiki under any circumstances. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 00:29, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
I admit it was not one of my best decisions. However, I still think that since I deleted it right afterwards, it didn't seem too serious. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 00:35, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Restored reasonable and limited use of your user talk page

Hi Seiyena,

Apologies for the delayed response. I have restored your use of your user talk page on your main account, to discourage continued illegitimate sockpuppetry, as well as reasonable use of Special:EmailUser, since you said you had issues e-mailing staff[at]testwiki.wiki directly. Given your recent sockpuppetry, I would strongly suggest waiting at least two weeks before appealing. When you appeal, I would suggest you clearly:

  1. Articulate what you have done wrong and what's frustrated fellow community members (including the illegitimate sockpuppetry, of course, but what are the main reasons)
  2. How you aim to improve and what control measures you require
  3. What you propose in terms of progressive discipline for contraventions

Thanks,
Dmehus (talk) 02:29, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for allowing me to edit my talk page again. I will be thinking about the points you brought up and make an unblock appeal in a couple of weeks, which I hope I can use to show that I am more mature now. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 02:37, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Okay, that sounds good. Also, please avoid Miraheze for now. Let's work on reintegrating here first, then after the community here is satisfied, they can recommend your re-entry to Miraheze. :) Dmehus (talk) 03:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

All right, I'll stop trying to evade my lock on Miraheze and focus on actually changing my behavior so I can be welcome back there someday. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 04:03, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Things to note here

1. Issues
-Bad words and evading the abuse filter
-Continuing to repeat bad behavior even after saying I'd stop
-Editing filter 88 after being told to leave it alone
-I also uploaded an inappropiate image here as a test and even though I deleted it right afterwards, I never should have uploaded that kind of image to begin with
-Asking for permissions when I wasn't supposed to

2. I plan to improve my actions here by only testing on pages that are either in my userspace or marked clearly as test pages. I will not evade filter 88 in any shape or form, and I will acknowledge any correctiona or advice given, and follow that advice. And I will not repeat any of my misbehavior from before.

As for any control measures I think are needed, the only one I can think of right now is keeping filter 88 active, with perhaps the modification that I mention below.

A note about filter 88: Right now filter 88 is set to simply disallow the action that is trying to be performed. Maybe that should be changed to instead issue a 3-day block any time the filter is triggered as well as remove from any special groups like admin or bureaucrat. I think that might make it more effective at its job and also not cause it to be triggered. This proposal would need a steward's help to implement if it's approved since it involves adding restricted actions. But I do think this might be beneficial to the target of the filter.

3. Proposed handling of further issues here
-First Instance: Warning (plus adding to the abuse filter if needed)
-Second Instance: Removal of Permissions for 2 weeks (which may be enforced with a block from the Request Permissions page)
-Third Instance: Block (either timed or indefinite, will leave to discretion, but preferably with talk page access on)

P.S. If anyone else has any comments on what I'm writing here, feel free to add.

Question About My Appeal

@Dmehus:, when I do appeal my block, can any admin or bureaucrat review and take action on the appeal, or can only a steward do that? Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:19, 4 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Seiyena, Thank you for your response, and thank you for making some notes above. That shows positive progress, [rfc:2119 should] help in your appeal. With regard to your appeal, in addition to noting your problems, I strongly recommend you include easy and swift consequences that could be taken, potentially by bureaucrats and stewards alike. For example, if a problematic word is not in the abuse filter, I would recommend suggesting any bureaucrat to strengthen the abuse filter as well as provide you with an obligatory warning. If you repeat similar problematic behaviour, a one- or two-week desysop should follow. A third instance would be followed by a one- or two-week block, and a fourth instance would result in a Steward re-imposing a three-month or indefinite sitewide block, to last for a minimum of three months. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 23:08, 4 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your reply and tips, Dmehus. I do like the steps you propose, but I know one issue people have had is that I've had multiple chances here, and I guess they would like that to change, so that's why I had said "one warning, then indefinite block" above. But I think what you propose is reasonable, so I'll work that into my plan above. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 19:08, 5 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Also, @Dmehus:, if I am unblocked, would there be any rules on when I can ask for permissions here again? Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 20:27, 5 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Name Change Request

Hi @Dmehus:, is there any chance I could be renamed to ApexAgunomu please? Thanks! Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:28, 6 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Block Appeal

Hi Mac, I understand your issue with my evasion of my lock on Miraheze, and I will not repeat that any more. However, I don't recall any times I've been inappropiate on IRC. I lurk in the miraheze overflow channel along with a few others, but I almost never say anything in those channels. And I am almost certain I have never said anything inappropiate or spammed anywhere on IRC. I just wanted to mention that because I honestly don't know what inappropiate IRC conduct you're talking about. But nevertheless, I will wait awhile longer before trying to get unblicked here again. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 15:48, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Piccadilly: I suggest you quit trying to appeal your block. As Mac stated, you will not be unblocked anytime soon. Give it a rest please. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 10:33, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
I won't ask to be unblocked for a while, and I'll try to improve my behavior in other places so I show that I can be trusted here. I just have one question: how long should I wait before asking to be unblocked? Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 19:22, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Don't ask at all. When the Stewards and Bureaucrats feel you are ready to rejoin the community, you will be notified. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 13:53, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Could someone please look at my appeal?

I apologize if I sound impatient, but if possible I would really appreciate it if someone could review my appeal and either accept or decline it. I don't know if only a steward can act on this appeal, but since both stewards are mostly inactive here, I don't think it would hurt if maybe another active admin or bureaucrat makes the call on whether to unblock me or not. I will accept and abide by any conditions or restrictions that might be put in place. Thanks. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 02:51, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Talk page access restored

Hello Apex/Seiyena,

I have enabled your ability to edit your talk page. This page may be used for appeals only and any abuse will result in an immediate removal of TPA. X (talk) 16:41, 12 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Newest Block Appeal

Moved to Test Wiki:Community portal. If you wish to comment to someone on the CP, let me know and I'll copy it there. X (talk) 13:28, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

As per Dmehus' encouragement, here is my proposal for handling future issues here, should they arise.

-First Instance: Removal of Permissions for 2 weeks (which may be enforced with a block from the Request Permissions page) -Second Instance: Block by any admin, bureaucrat or steward (either timed or indefinite, will leave to discretion, but preferably with talk page access on)

I am also willing to accept any conditions that may be placed on my being unblocked. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 11:49, 20 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Unblocked. Contact a bureaucrat if you would like to be granted administrator rights. I also suggest you read the conditions of your unblock in full (posted by Dmehus) on the community portal. X (talk) 12:15, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for letting me know, and yes I would like admin rights. I will go read the community portal now. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 12:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
  Done. X (talk) 12:33, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Regarding the proposed unblock conditions

I have read the conditions of the proposed unblock and agree to them. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 23:58, 20 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Can someone please copy my agreement above to the Community Portal so it's plainly visible to everyone that I'm okay with the proposed conditions? (Or maybe I could be temporarily unblocked to exclusively take part in the discussion there?) Thanks. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:27, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
  Done. X (talk) 01:51, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Rename Request

@Dmehus:}, could my name be changed to Piccadilly please? It's my name on another test wiki and the name I hope to use eventually on Miraheze. Thank you! Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 00:04, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Seiyena, I'm willing to proceed with this, but I would like to have two or three recently active members of the community endorse this rename request. As well, per my message to you on IRC, it may actually be desirable for you to use the same name on Miraheze here (ApexAgunomu), so as for Miraheze community members to more easily assess your recent edits and behaviour, but I guess that is not essential. That will be up to you. :) Dmehus (talk) 00:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for being willing to do this, and I would like to proceed with this if two or three others agree. Should I bring this to the community portal? Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 00:11, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
While I supported a rename on For-test wiki, I   Oppose a rename here. We have specific restrictions on your ability to edit and request rights, so renaming would cause a lot of confusion. If/when these restrictions are removed, I would   Support an unblock. X (talk) 00:17, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Seiyena, you can post a note at Test Wiki:Community portal inviting users to consider expressing any arguments for/against a rename here, if you want, but I think this is a fine venue. Stewards will consider the arguments made (it won't be a community !vote) in determining whether to allow a rename. Dmehus (talk) 00:34, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
All right, I'll let them know and ask them to comment on this page so we can keep the discussion in one place. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 00:37, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your bureaucrat rights request

Please be sure you review the closure of your conditional unblock, specifically Dmehus's comment which outlines your restrictions. One of these is as follows:

  • Be limited to the sysop user group for at least two (2) to four (4) weeks following closing of this discussion, after which they may be given bureaucrat when two (2) or more Test Wiki bureaucrats in good standing agree to grant the group.

That is why I declined your request. X (talk) 17:01, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

I'll go review that section. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 17:03, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Warning - testing on talk pages

Like I have already reminded you cross-wiki, don’t test on talk pages, unless there is a specific reason. They are considered non-test pages, used for discussion of the actual testing page. I trust your FTW block doesn’t need to extend here. X (talk) 11:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

No the block doesn't need to be extended. I'll test only on the appropiate pages here. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 11:49, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Last Warning- Testing on Talk Pages

You have been told once to stop doing this, and as per the terms of your conditional unblock, this is a formal warning, and any further disruption may be prevented by rights revocation or blocks. Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:46, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

I do apologise for butting in but how many chances are we going to give this user? They clearly are reverting back to their old ways, even when promising they have changed. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 03:19, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
This is a last warning. I thought that a block may not yet be absolutely necessary to prevent disruption, so this warning was given. I am merely using every available method to deter the disruption before blocking, as I treat blocks as an absolute last resort to prevent said disruption, even if the user has a long history. Justarandomamerican (talk) 10:14, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I agree with @Justarandomamerican‘s approach to this. Upon any further abuse, an indefinite block will be placed. X (talk) 10:59, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Blocking then is indeed an option, but indefinite time was mentioned by Dmehus as the last option and seems to me to be going a bit too far here. Quote:
  • Next-level consequences would include rights removal for a short period of between three (3) days and two weeks (14) days. Where sysop rights are removed, they may still be granted appropriate rights below sysop, if useful (i.e., ability to view deleted revisions to analyze their mistakes)
  • Short blocks, ideally consented to by two bureaucrat-sysops, a Steward, or a Steward and bureaucrat-sysop (if me) of the same duration as the rights removal are considered appropriate next-level consequences
  • Once three next-level consequences, including the rights removal, are received, two bureaucrat-sysops may reblock for one-month until a Steward can indefinitely block them. If they are reblocked indefinitely by a Steward, that is not their "last chance," but rather, appeals will not be considered for at least three months.
Drummingman (talk) 14:45, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I am aware of what was discussed, but part of the reason @Seiyena was unblocked was because of their positive behavior on For-Test Wiki. They have since been blocked for 1 week there and on a last warning. X (talk) 17:23, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
While a next-level consequence may have indeed been warranted here, and the duration is reasonable, if the problem was occurring in Talk: related namespaces, why was a partial block not considered, and why was the rights removal also done? In my view, if Seiyena unblocked themselves, then the rights removal would have been justified. Dmehus (talk) 19:48, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Dmehus I didn’t partial block because I didn’t want to deviate from the guidelines you initially set out. Feel free to change the block as you see fit. For the rights removal, I removed right’s because they have unblocked themselves cross wiki when I didn’t revoke sysop. Just thought it best to take precautions here. X (talk) 20:13, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Okay, that's fair regarding the rights removal, though we really shouldn't take into consideration their behaviour on For Test Wiki. Thank you for your response regarding not using the partial block; that is definitely taking my guidelines very literally and a narrow interpretation. For greater clarity, where I write block, I meant partial block or sitewide block. Justarandomamerican, since you blocked Seiyena first, did you consider a partial block? Dmehus (talk) 21:32, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Um, I definitely want to here @Justarandomamerican‘s opinion, but they didn’t place the block. X (talk) 21:36, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Dmehus: I have not blocked Seiyena once on this wiki, although as the person giving this formal warning, I recommend a partial block from all talk namespaces for around 2 weeks, and then if the disruption continues in the talk namespaces or elsewhere, an indefinite sitewide block should be placed by a Steward or a trusted Bureaucrat. I think that the nature of the abuse calls for it: Seiyena has been warned twice about disruptive behavior since her conditional unblock was placed, and has already been blocked numerous times. To continue disruption would demonstrate an incapability or refusal to stop disruptive behavior when asked, warranting an indefinite block pending explanation and proof of actual competency. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:40, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
  Done, except for user talks as no history of disruption there, and so they can still comment on their talk page. X (talk) 21:43, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I simply forgot to exclude user talk from that, thanks. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:44, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
You’re welcome. @Dmehus, for revoking sysop, I figured that I probably should do so based on cross wiki abuse because I thought it was pointless to just go through the same thing here. As the saying goes, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” X (talk) 21:49, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Blocked sitewide again?

I'm not sure how my actions on another site warranted upgrading my block here again. Ak I missing something? (I do know that making that talk page on WikiTide was bad but how does that affect things here?) Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 16:15, 21 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

It shows you haven’t changed your past behavior. I will inform you that a steward, @Drummingman, has endorsed the block. X (talk) 16:31, 21 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Are we going to allow Seiyena to hold the Administrator permission? I do believe that it should be removed if they unblock themself. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 21:19, 21 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I do believe so, yes. They can't really do anything, but if they decide to unblock themselves, that's probably an indef and a rights removal for abusing sysop rights to continue disruption, IMO. Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:07, 21 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 13:32, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Indeed. Drummingman (talk) 15:20, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

the block reason is given, you have multiple disruptive editing, and are testing on inappropriate sections of the wiki, please wait out the block --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 16:19, 21 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Question

Hello! This account is your? AlPaD (talk) 19:41, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

i would definitely say it is very similar behavior --Cocopuff2018 (talk) 19:49, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

No, that is not me. I do have an account on a different wiki that Cocopuff runs, but that account is named Piccadilly. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 19:50, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

This is the wiki where I am Piccadilly: http://cocopuffwiki.infinityfreeapp.com/index.php/Main_Page Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 19:54, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

we use this site now which we asked everyone to transfer there accounts to. @Seiyena Cocopuff2018 (talk) 19:57, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! CU showed that the user with these accounts is the vandal who deletes content from pages. I believe he copied Seiyena's behavior. AlPaD (talk) 20:01, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

All right, thank you! Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 20:12, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I was able to sign up. I am Skiyomi there. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 20:41, 22 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Possible sockpuppetry

Possible sock abuse: User:Cocopuff2018. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 21:33, 30 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

I don't think they're socking. What other account do you think is theirs? Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:35, 30 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I agree with @Seiyena. What other account is there? X (talk) 21:39, 30 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
User:Garuda and User:Bugambilia are also possible sock abuse. I disagree with both of you. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 21:40, 30 June 2023 (UTC) Never mind, Drummingman said   Not done. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 21:42, 30 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Those are already blocked for socking. X (talk) 21:44, 30 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Change the talk page archive link

Hello, can you change the talk page archive link to User talk:Piccadilly/Archive? And also please fix your signature? It's because you were renamed to Piccadilly. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 02:28, 2 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, I'll do that right now :) Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 02:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Archiving this link (for now)...

Link to a Wikimedia lock appeal: User:Piccadilly/Wikimedia_Lock_Appeal

I had planned to use this appeal in a few months, but I think the best thing for me right now is to stop trying to rejoin Wikimedia for awhile. With my complicated history there, not to mention multiple evasion issues throughout the past 5(!) years, I think I need to give it a rest for awhile. Maybe next year or the year after I will be able to pursue the appeal to the stewards, but now just isn't that time. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 18:56, 1 August 2023 (UTC)Reply