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UserRightsManager

The name of the userRightsManager gadget has changed, so some users may have the tick turned off. It may be necessary to re-enable it in the preferences. LisafBia (talk) 13:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

We encourage bureaucrats, if you have last edited before June 2024, to re-enable its preferences. This user  supports this decision. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 20:41, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Inactivity for AFAs

Should inactivity for AFAs be measured in regular terms, or should it be measured by the last time an abuse filter was modified by an AFA, or perhaps even the last time a filter was modified to use a restricted action or a restricted filter was modified? I'd like to know consensus on this before I go and modify the inactivity policy. Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:20, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

I would choose when the last time some AFA modified a regular abuse filter (without restricted actions). Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 02:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

We don't have a bot for it yet? That checks for inactivity? Justman10000 (talk) 16:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Nope. It's a manual process. Justarandomamerican (talk) 16:12, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Would be at least 3 months at least I can suggest. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talk_contribs 12:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Bureaucracy of Tailsultimatefan3891

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 Not done. Consensus is clearly against TUF receiving 'crat rights. I suggest to Tailsultimatefan to take the feedback to heart and wait 2 weeks to a month before requesting crat here or to a Steward. Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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• User: Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk · contribs · deleted · logs · rights) (assign permissions)
• Requested right: Bureaucrat (indef or until inactive for 3 months)
• Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom (optional): Rating System Wiki Contentpedia
• [I agree] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies and agree to follow them completely.
• [I also agree] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
• [I also agree] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
• [I also agree] Note this right can only be granted by stewards.

Other comments: I would suggest passing a vote here. I know what are the risks here. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 20:16, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Support

•  Suppose, like mines! MihaiAdmin1 (talk) 20:23, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry suspected. I assume the stewards are investigating. X (talk + contribs) 20:56, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

No relation between Mihai and Tailsultimatefan. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:15, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, it was not me who did it by confirmation. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 16:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Is the vote still valid? Said user is blocked Justman10000 (talk) 20:10, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

•  Weak support They haven't created any problems since acquiring the rights. Let's give them a temporary crat bit which can later be extended to permanent The AP (talk) 15:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

  What is the duration recommended? Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 16:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

  One month, at the minimum? Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 03:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

  That's for stewards to decide The AP (talk) 17:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

  Maybe so. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 22:11, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

•  Support If I recall correctly, this user has not done anything wrong recently, in the sense of violating policies. However, pretty much of what X said is true. But me personally, I don't have any problems with giving this user bureaucrat rights, but I'd also like to see them address the problems X has stated from the oppose and neutral sections. Tsukushi (talk) 08:40, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

  Are you aware of the problems caused by the requester and still give your support? Justman10000 (talk) 20:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose

•  Strongly oppose Acts like he's a steward (always wants to lecture me), even if he means good, it's kind of annoying... For example this or especially this! As I said, even if it's meant good, one don't have to act like a steward if one isn't one! Furthermore, the requester assumes that he would be exempt from the inactivity policy (see behind Requested right) --Justman10000 (talk) 20:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
•  Oppose I haven’t seen a clear demonstration of maturity and knowledge of wiki norms to feel comfortable supporting this. X (talk + contribs) 17:11, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

  Why? Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 17:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

  For one, you “supported” your own rights request above. You also left a comment saying you supported a users block, which I reverted. I’ve been back from my wiki break for only 2 days and have already seen two things that don’t show knowledge of community norms. That is why I am not comfortable at this time. X (talk + contribs) 18:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

  OK. You can change your vote at any time before voting ends. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 01:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

  I am aware, yes. X (talk + contribs) 01:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

  I got it! OK. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 02:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

  I think he meant, that you should change your vote Justman10000 (talk) 20:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

  As I said, I just think Justman10000 (talk) 20:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

•  Oppose The user needs to get to know the policies for a while. LisafBia (talk) 15:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

  I already know it. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 23:04, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

•  Oppose Per X's comment. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 06:50, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

  I already know it. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 23:04, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

•  Oppose Gepard _talk 14:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain

• Neutral Per X. Username (talk) 23:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

  Please note that this is a vote from a non-sysop. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 01:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

  This, yet again, shows a lack of understanding of our policies. Non-sysops are permitted to voice their opinion in community discussions and their user rights hold no weight on their voting ability. Also, username is the alternative account of @Jody, a crat. X (talk + contribs) 01:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

  I got it! OK. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 02:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Comments

Sometimes, I see some (if not most) of their edits in Abuse filter test trying to trigger and test some filters. Maybe you should do other non-test work here. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 23:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

It is just a test. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 23:54, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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Suppression Reports

Not sure if this was ever officially announced, but you can go to Special:Report/REVID to report a revision that needs suppressed. X (talk + contribs) 21:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

When I installed the extension, I announced it on Discord, but never made an announcement here. *facepalm* Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

*sigh* *ahem* I agree on this feature. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 21:06, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

You’re fine, no problem! X (talk + contribs) 21:07, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

It's also included in the newsletter :) The AP (talk) 15:08, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Cool, right? Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 17:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Welcoming users

We should welcome a newly-registered user when they make their first edit. Not before, but after. Tsukushi (talk) 01:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Requests for approval (bot)

Hello all, I have created a bot account named User:DR bot for maintenance tasks on this wiki. The first task I want to perform with this bot is to archive discussions on pages like the community portal, user talk pages, and other discussion venues. Therefore, I am requesting approval from the community. I'm also happy to assist with other tasks as needed. DR (talk) 16:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I am against a bot archiving user talk pages, people should and do have the freedom to archive whenever. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 20:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I would assume such a bot would be opt-in, as I would oppose mandatory archival myself. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:21, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

This seems very uncontroversial if user talks are opt-in. We don’t have a RfBA here, @DR, so you are welcome to move forward with your bot. X (talk + contribs) 23:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

@Justarandomamerican, @Sav, @X This bot will not archive user talk page messages on its own. It will only do so if the following template is present. Users can add this template if they want to archive messages automatically.

{{User:DR/config

|archive = User talk:DR/Archive %(counter)d

|algo = old(1d)

|counter = 1

|maxarchivesize = 10k

|archiveheader =

|minthreadstoarchive = 1

|minthreadsleft = 1

}}

DR (talk) 02:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Well, in that case, I'll go ahead and give your bot the green flag. Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:11, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Well, that changes my opinion. All good with me :) Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 19:24, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Great, I will work on the documentation for this template. After that, we can set up auto-archiving for the community portal and the permissions request page. DR (talk) 15:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

@DR Can you shed light on other tasks this bot will perform? The AP (talk) 12:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

I currently don't have any other tasks, but I am available to help with anything if someone needs. DR (talk) 12:55, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Interface administrator

Since there is nothing more for me to do here, I would like to be a interface administrator... I would mainly take care of the gadgets, adding or removing scripts (if desired) there and translating them... Since I seem to have plenty of time until candidate as steward/system administrator, I would at least to do this!

As I said, without this I would have nothing more to do here! And we don't want me to just sit here and wait Justman10000 (talk) 08:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Not a steward but this attitude isn’t encouraging to me. I don’t have confidence that you will be a suitable IA, mainly due to WP:CIR. Do you have any previous work in this area? X (talk + contribs) 02:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

As I said, I would mainly manage the gadgets... Justman10000 (talk) 08:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

IA is a sensitive right, in the hands of people who don't know what they are doing, it can even be dangerous. Can you convince me that you know what you are doing and have experience with the interface? Drummingman (talk) 09:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Well, I've already looked into the configuration syntax of the gadget extension! If necessary, I'll just look in the MediaWiki documentation Justman10000 (talk) 09:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

@Drummingman There? Justman10000 (talk) 06:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

What coding languages do you know? Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 06:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

It's still all about the gadgets, so I wouldn't need any coding experience! I would mainly import scripts from other wikis, tidy up the gadgets and translate them Justman10000 (talk) 06:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Interface Administrator requires coding knowledge. So, for me, this is an  Oppose. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 07:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

I said I didn't need it! I would only manage gadgets! And if one were finally able to give me a chance, I could prove it too... Justman10000 (talk) 07:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

So how you plan to manage gadgets without coding experience? The AP (talk) 11:59, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't get what one is getting at? Where do I need coding experience for this:

Selective Rollback[ResourceLoader|rights=rollback]|Selective Rollback.js Justman10000 (talk) 12:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

@Justman10000 That's just MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition and you said "mainly import scripts from other wikis,", and how do you plan to make scripts compatible to our wiki. The AP (talk) 13:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

No need to! Practically every script that I use here in my common.js is also compatible with this wiki! I just don't import the rest! I would possibly find more! I would test each script first, however Justman10000 (talk) 14:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Now having experience as an Iinterface admin I don’t trust him too much.@Justman1000: Now having experience as an Interface admin I don’t trust you too much. And in addition if you do not know any coding language this will be mission hard.Could you give me a mini JS script to say hello?(you should at least know this to be interface admin)DodoMan (talk) 17:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Apologies, but this  will not be done for the time being, due to Drummimgman's and the various IAs' discomfort. Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Do I actually speak Turkish? Or against a wall? Without these permissions I have nothing more to do here! Is that so difficult to understand? I'm getting really fed up! No one is able to give me a chance! Justman10000 (talk) 19:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Besides, you said I should convince YOU? So what does that have to do with the other IAs? Justman10000 (talk) 23:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

As a Steward, I am a community representative. I cannot ignore IA or any community thoughts, especially on a topic posted here. Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

I see... But as already mentioned, without the said permissions... Justman10000 (talk) 00:12, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Would it be possible to assign these at least temporarily? Justman10000 (talk) 00:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Translations into Chinese

Hi. I've been doing some translations lately and was wondering which variant of Chinese to translate to. Currently most pages are translated into regional dialects, such as zh-cn and zh-tw. What I think would be better is to translate only into zh-hans (simplified Chinese) and zh-hant (traditional Chinese) in order to reduce redundancy, as all Chinese dialects use one of the two character systems. Any thoughts? '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 10:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Well I think you should translate into the more popular dialect The AP (talk) 12:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Honestly, I think that we should only do the two main variants of Chinese (Traditional and Simplified). Regional dialects complicate things.. Justarandomamerican (talk) 18:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Why are my crat permissions not granted?

I wanted to know. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 23:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi. You were not granted bureaucrat because there was community consensus against granting you the permission. Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:16, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Fine, but I would say I would wait until 90 days, (oh, actually 3 months) passed. Tailsultimatefan3891 ^talklogs_contribs 23:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Because the majority of votes were against Justman10000 (talk) 23:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)