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*<s>{{Support}} Author request per temporary crat proposal. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 16:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)</s> |
*<s>{{Support}} Author request per temporary crat proposal. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 16:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)</s> |
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*:Now {{Support|Weak support}}. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 17:29, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
*:Now {{Support|Weak support}}. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 17:29, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{support}} If I recall correctly, this user has not done anything wrong recently, in the sense of violating policies. |
*{{support}} If I recall correctly, this user has not done anything wrong recently, in the sense of violating policies. However, pretty much of what X said is true. But me personally, I don't have any problems with giving this user bureaucrat rights, but I'd also like to see them address the problems X has stated from the oppose and neutral sections. [[User:Tsukushi|Tsukushi]] ([[User talk:Tsukushi|talk]]) 08:40, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{oppose}} Honestly, this extension should NOT be implemented. To all of the users who will register when this bot is in operation will have their talk pages created automatically by this extension's bot with the standard <code><nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki></code> template and signature. Who knows who the bot welcomes and what those users' intentions will be? Most of those users will not deserve a welcome on their talk pages because they'll be users who will never make a single contribution here, so what's the point in welcoming users like them? This includes the future spam-bots and vandals of course. I view what the bot will do as spam and excessive clogging to the <code>User talk:</code> namespace. I prefer that we, this time, stick to welcoming new users on our own, to the ones who'll register and actually make their first constructive edits, or other ways from them that show their deserving of these |
*{{oppose}} Honestly, this extension should NOT be implemented. To all of the users who will register when this bot is in operation will have their talk pages created automatically by this extension's bot with the standard <code><nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki></code> template and signature. Who knows who the bot welcomes and what those users' intentions will be? Most of those users will not deserve a welcome on their talk pages because they'll be users who will never make a single contribution here, so what's the point in welcoming users like them? This includes the future spam-bots and vandals of course. I view what the bot will do as spam and excessive clogging to the <code>User talk:</code> namespace. I prefer that we, this time, stick to welcoming new users on our own, to the ones who'll register and actually make their first constructive edits, or other ways from them that show their deserving of these welcomes. [[User:Tsukushi|Tsukushi]] ([[User talk:Tsukushi|talk]]) 08:00, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:I would disagree. This Wiki is small and there are very little new users (only 13 accounts were registered last month). Even if certain users use their accounts for malicious purposes, they are easily blockable because, remember, almost everyone is an admin here. And if the extension does cause problems, it can be easily disabled. <span style="font-family:monospace;">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]]) 11:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
*:I would disagree. This Wiki is small and there are very little new users (only 13 accounts were registered last month). Even if certain users use their accounts for malicious purposes, they are easily blockable because, remember, almost everyone is an admin here. And if the extension does cause problems, it can be easily disabled. <span style="font-family:monospace;">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]]) 11:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*::Furthermore, welcoming people and giving them quick links to request rights is helpful to new users that aren’t familiar with the layout of the wiki. There isn’t always someone online that will welcome them. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 01:30, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
*::Furthermore, welcoming people and giving them quick links to request rights is helpful to new users that aren’t familiar with the layout of the wiki. There isn’t always someone online that will welcome them. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 01:30, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{Neutral}} per Tsukushi pretty much Tsukushi may be true but I arguably think that a bot may welcome new users or someone would like to use a different Welcome template. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 22:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
*{{Neutral}} per Tsukushi pretty much Tsukushi may be true but I arguably think that a bot may welcome new users or someone would like to use a different Welcome template. {{Font|[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] <sup>[[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Log/Tailsultimatefan3891|logs]]</small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]</sub>|font=Roboto}} 22:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:I would like to remind you all that consensus is !voting. The opposition argument above will be given significantly more weight, as will any well thought out supporting or neutral arguments. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:06, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
:I would like to remind you all that consensus is !voting. The opposition argument above will be given significantly more weight, as will any well thought out supporting or neutral arguments. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:06, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Suggestion== |
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Hey everyone, I've noticed that in the navigation section of the main menu on the left side, there's a link to test pages that redirects to a [[:Category:Test pages|category]] of test pages. Instead of linking to the category, I suggest we create a list of test pages and include a one-line description for each page. This would be more helpful for new users. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 15:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC) |
Hey everyone, I've noticed that in the navigation section of the main menu on the left side, there's a link to test pages that redirects to a [[:Category:Test pages|category]] of test pages. Instead of linking to the category, I suggest we create a list of test pages and include a one-line description for each page. This would be more helpful for new users. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 15:13, 1 July 2024 (UTC) |
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==Welcoming users== |
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We should welcome a newly-registered user when they make their first edit. Not before, but after. [[User:Tsukushi|Tsukushi]] ([[User talk:Tsukushi|talk]]) 01:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC) |
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