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==Proposal: Abolish the non-steward suppressor right==
==Piccadilly Appeal Terms==
The following is a community request for comment about Piccadilly’s appeal timeframe and form as the user has been blocked again. Please express your opinion on each proposal. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 00:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


This was already partly discussed in the Test Wiki Discord server, and I'm ultimately bringing it up here as a proposal for the community to comment on.
===Extend appeal timeframe===
Piccadilly is currently prohibited from appealing their ban for a period of 6 months, per Drummingman’s initial unblock conditions. I propose extending this time to one year as the user has made it clear to us over and over that they will not change. They keep coming back every 3-6 months with no behavioral difference. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 00:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{support}}: As proposer. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 00:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{support}}: --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 04:35, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{support}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 15:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{support}} --[[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] 08:46, 15 January 2025 (UTC)


Simply, I'd like to propose abolishing [[Test Wiki:Suppressors|non-steward suppressors]] on this wiki. We currently have two such users, me being one of them, but ultimately at this time, there is really not much need. There are mainly two factors to this, which I will be listing here.
===Community appeal only===
#The amount of suppressions, and especially suppression requests, are already low to this date. Except for two suppressions this month (one performed by me and the other by a steward), the last 50 suppressions date back to July last year, most of which were either reverted, performed as tests or performed for old edits/log entries.
Additionally, I propose requiring that, for Piccadilly to be unblocked, there is a community appeal discussion. Piccadilly has abused the community enough to where they deserve a direct say in any appeal. The process would look like this: Piccadilly waits the selected timeframe. Piccadilly appeals to the steward email address. Stewards discuss appeal internally, and if approved, forward it to the community for a discussion on the community portal. I and others are frustrated with how this continues to be handled and the leniency to which we give LTAs. This proposal would give some say back to the community. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 00:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
#The community is too small, and not large enough to justify having independent suppressors or checkusers. On a wiki as small as this one, it is likely best to center the suppression task to the stewards, both since they already are experienced with CU/OS and personal information, and considering that they have already been the ones mainly handling suppressions on this wiki either way. This would also be a benefit for the security aspects as well, even if compromises are indeed rare here.
*{{support}}, as proposer. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 00:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{support}}: --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 04:35, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{Support|Strong Support}} -Piccadilly always Violate Test Wiki policy and every time blocked by Stewards and Bureaucrats for violation of Test Wiki's policy and also for it's work. I'll be suggesting please avoid unblocked for Piccadilly because I have special concerns to them after unblocking they 'll be trying to violated again Test Wiki's policy and {{Ping|Drummingman}} is great guy and they think and decided to grant a chance again to Piccadilly for it's unblocking. Happy testing!--- ''<span style="background:#000000;border:1px solid #FF0080;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#F70D1A">Bhairava7</span>]] β€’ [[User talk:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#FF6700">(@pΓ­ng mΡ”-tΞ±lk mΡ”)</span>]]</span>''
*{{support}} - I have reviewed their activity on Test Wiki in detail and I see no attempts to change behavior, leading me to the conclusion that this proposal would fit the community better. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 11:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{support}} Unfortunately Piccadilly hasn't changed her behaviour. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 15:27, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{support}} --[[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] 08:46, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
*I weakly {{support}} with special recommendations to Stewards, as someone who has dealt with this user for some time. This issue resembles exactly what happened with Apex (previous name) on Miraheze, viewable at Miraheze: Global ban for ApexAgunomu in the RfC section. This RfC was after Apex was poorly managed at Steward level and given many many many chances only to squash them all. So it became necessary for the community to opine where it realistically shouldn't have to, in ideal circumstances stewards will have reasonable expectations and only unblock when evidence suggests the pattern will not repeat. If stewards are to humor/pass through an appeal, they should do so with one of two expectations (neither involving how much time has passed or how much Apex promises to do better). They should see a pattern at some other community of Apex contributing without outbursts or being blocked long term. Or there should be reasonable evidence that Apex has sought professional help and growth for these outbursts that have plagued her across several platforms. Nothing less in this circumstance would make sense. If an appeal is forwarded to the community without assurances of either, the community should take up the task of looking for this evidence. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|πŸ’¬]]''')''' 18:19, 15 January 2025 (UTC)


Potentially, the community could consider to instead elect new stewards with the inactivity of Dmehus and decreased activity of Justa and MacFan, but in the current state, there isn't really a need nor a community large enough to justify having NSS at this time, and I therefore propose to instead center this task to the stewards. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 13:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
==Restrict abusefilter-access-protected-vars and abusefilter-protected-vars-log to AFAs and stewards?==
{{discussion top|Doing, as there has been no objections within 4 days. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:24, 18 January 2025 (UTC)}}
Because <code>abusefilter-access-protected-vars</code> have the potential for regular administrators (who might not be familiar with abuse filters) to mark a filter as permanently protected without the ability to reverse it, I suggest we should restrict it to only abuse filter administrators and stewards who have the trust of the community to work with filters that might cause huge disruption if configured incorrectly, the same way as <code>abusefilter-modify-restricted</code>. Similarly, the log for abuse filter regarding protected variables might also have to be restricted to those two groups, since they might deal with personal information. <span style="font-family:Verdana">[[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#A1000E">talk</span>]])</span> 18:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
===Discussion===
*{{support}} as the proposer. <span style="font-family:Verdana">[[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#A1000E">talk</span>]])</span> 18:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{support}} due to this user right having the power to make sensitive and irreversible changes to abuse filters. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 19:03, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{support}} --[[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] 08:48, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
*{{Support|Strong support}} per Tenwhile --- ''<span style="background:#000000;border:1px solid #FF0080;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#F70D1A">Bhairava7</span>]] β€’ [[User talk:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#FF6700">(@pΓ­ng mΡ”-tΞ±lk mΡ”)</span>]]</span>'' 09:17, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
{{Discussion bottom}}


*{{support}} - as proposer. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 13:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
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:{{support}} <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 13:38, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Can a steward remove he all his rights because he unblocked self, and re-give to bureaucrats there rights.And re-block it.Sorry for my bad english but i repeat i'm french.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 08:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}} [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 08:00, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
:{{done}} by DrummingMan. [[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 08:21, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}} -[[User:C1K98V|<b style="color:#FF0000">''C1K98V''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:C1K98V|πŸ’¬]] [[Special:Contribs/C1K98V|βœ’οΈ]] [[Special:ListFiles/C1K98V|πŸ“‚]])</sup> 02:32, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
:all actions reversed. --[[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] 08:45, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::Because of this, we should restrict giving bureaucrat rights to only stewards. <span style="font-family:Verdana">[[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#A1000E">talk</span>]])</span> 08:47, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't think thats the right answer to this abuse. [[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] 08:49, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Perhaps not that, but we should maybe restrict removing bureaucrat rights to stewards, and remove the unblockself right from Bureaucrats? It would certainly prevent the abuse, but then Stewards would have to manage the inactivity policy with Bureaucrats. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 08:54, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::I agree with those options. <span style="font-family:Verdana">[[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#A1000E">talk</span>]])</span> 09:00, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::I agree with Justa's comment. --- ''<span style="background:#000000;border:1px solid #FF0080;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#F70D1A">Bhairava7</span>]] β€’ [[User talk:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#FF6700">(@pΓ­ng mΡ”-tΞ±lk mΡ”)</span>]]</span>'' 09:01, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::To be honest, we have never really had an issue with crat abuse before, I feel like making multiple rights changes is a little brash. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 11:14, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::I disagree. It's not rash to implement preventative measures after a problem occurs. I'm not sure what the alternative is. Wait until the problem occurs more?[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:41, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Justa's idea (''restrict removing bureaucrat rights to stewards'') is something we can discuss. I'd suggest to create a new section and do a community vote on this. [[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] 14:45, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::If stewards are up to taking on the role of managing bureaucrats' inactivity, I have no problem with supporting!
:::::I suppose removing unblockself could cause inconveniences, as that could prevent one from undoing a test block on oneself. Also, if someone else with rights goes rogue and blocks a bureaucrat, they would then have to wait for someone else to undo their block. Why not just remove privileges when blocking someone? <span style="font-family:Courier New;font-weight:bold;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px cyan">[[User:Tester|Tester]]</span> ([[User_talk:Tester|α΄›]]β€’[[Special:Contributions/Tester|α΄„]]) 14:46, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|TenWhile6}} Hi there, What is the exact answer of this abuse.πŸ˜…--- ''<span style="background:#000000;border:1px solid #FF0080;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#F70D1A">Bhairava7</span>]] β€’ [[User talk:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#FF6700">(@pΓ­ng mΡ”-tΞ±lk mΡ”)</span>]]</span>'' 08:52, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
It is not necessarily a good idea to restrict bureaucrat assignment and removal because of two main factors. One is that it's plainly quite rare an instance, although Justa is correct that if there is an issue then it should be patched and we shouldn't hope that people won't do it again. That is burying one's head in the sand. The other factor is that restricting bureaucrat grant/removal without altering standards is that a future abuser can simply do it again and change their tactics. They can make a different stream of hard to reverse actions and not be easily handled by a fellow bureaucrat. A Steward's intervention will be required in one example, in the other it might but won't necessarily be required. Removing permissions is relatively simple to undo and this incident was dealt with quite expediently. The train of abuse goes deep in a rabbit hole: to pick apart another suggestion, not permitting unblockself means a rogue bureaucrat can simply block everyone else first and then that's another problem that's harder to resolve. On top of the inconvenience already suggested.


==Nomination of [[User:EPIC]] for Stewardship==
Instead, it seems to me a reasonable answer is to increase the surface of people who can deal with the problem. Perhaps there should be an autopatrolled type access for more senior testers/bureaucrats, whom's access cannot be removed by 'mere' bureaucrats. This lets more established bureaucrats or even trusted but not very active community members deal with rogues and make it harder to sneak in and gain destructive, harder to reverse access with the minimum standard of autoconfirmed that bureaucrats currently have. This would be their only access and it could be assigned at the trust of stewards so there are more people who could respond to an incident like this, but wouldn't complicate everyday operation by requiring a steward step in for every instance of bureaucrat addition and removal and going rogue. This answer might have problems but I think it's a more elegant place to start.


As with the NSS removal, this was already partly discussed in the Test Wiki Discord server and I would like to officially create this nomination here on the community portal. I am hereby nominating [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] for a stewardship here on Test Wiki. I believe that they have shown extreme dedication to all the hats they hold both on Test Wiki and other, notable wikis and that they would be a perfect fit to help oversee the administration of Test Wiki, alongside with the other 3 stewards. As many of you may know, EPIC is also a steward on Wikimedia which I find to be a great achievement, further improving his experience. Please let me know if you have any other questions in the discussion below. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 08:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
My 2c,
:I stated it in the Discord server as well so I will partly repeat that here; I'm willing to serve if the community and current stewards are in favor of it, since I could bring some further useful experience and extra help especially now that Dmehus is not currently active and two of the other stewards have decreased activity. One of the stewards have expressed their endorsement beforehand, so I'm ultimately accepting. I shouldn't have a big issue with keeping up my activity either, though I'll otherwise resign if I end up not meeting my expected activity levels.
:Noting for transparency that I'm currently a steward for the Wikimedia projects as well as a sysop on the Swedish Wikipedia and Meta (and a CheckUser on the latter). [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 08:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC)


===Support===
--'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|πŸ’¬]]''')''' 17:23, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
#{{Support}} as nominator. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 08:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
#{{support|strong}} Irrespective of the NSS removal proposal, EPIC is a clearly suitable candidate, and will definitely help this wiki. Highly trustworthy. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 08:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} sure, good luck! [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 19:26, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
#{{support|strongest}} [[User:Paflidy|Paflidy]] ([[User talk:Paflidy|talk]]) 00:45, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} Good luck! [[User:Sav|Sav]] β€’ ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} Keep up the good work. -[[User:C1K98V|<b style="color:#FF0000">''C1K98V''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:C1K98V|πŸ’¬]] [[Special:Contribs/C1K98V|βœ’οΈ]] [[Special:ListFiles/C1K98V|πŸ“‚]])</sup> 02:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} [[User:Bosco|Bosco]] ([[User talk:Bosco|talk]]) 08:51, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{support}} [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 09:11, 2 April 2025 (UTC)


===Abstain===
==Restrict removing bureaucrat rights to Stewards==
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:''The following discussion is closed. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it</b>. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.''
::The proposal is Withdrawn by the requester. --- ''<span style="background:#000000;border:1px solid #FF0080;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#F70D1A">Bhairava7</span>]] β€’ [[User talk:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#FF6700">(@pΓ­ng mΡ”-tΞ±lk mΡ”)</span>]]</span>'' 16:11, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
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<s> Due to recent abuse, I propose restricting removing bureaucrat rights to Stewards, with Bureaucrats still able to resign through removing the right from themselves. This ensures that Bureaucrats cannot be removed by rogue Bureaucrats. If this proposal passes, please notify a Steward for any bureaucrat inactivity. </s>[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 15:52, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}} [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 15:55, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::{{withdraw}} per recent discussion on discord. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 16:00, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:Raidarr has pointed out disadvantages with this proposal on Discord, mainly that Bureaucrats cannot remove rogue Bureaucrats if this goes into effect. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 15:59, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:Proposal withdrawn. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:01, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
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:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it</b>. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.''</div>


==Crat Abuse RFC==
===Oppose===


==IA changes==
What should we do about the recent abuse of crat rights? '''Option 1''': Do nothing.
Hello.
'''Option 2''': Add the ability to remove crat rights to non-steward suppressors.
'''Option 3''': Create a Trusted user group, as described [[User:Justarandomamerican/Trusted users|here]]. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:56, 15 January 2025 (UTC)


In response to my [[Test Wiki:Request for permissions#BZPN|request]] for Interface Administrator rights, I have been asked (by @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]]) to provide a list of at least three planned changes for review by other Interface Administrators. Below are the changes I intend to implement:
:{{support}} Doing nothing, {{oppose|Weak oppose}} option 2, {{oppose|Strong oppose}} Option 3. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:05, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
#In MediaWiki:Gadget-UserInfo.js, I plan to fix the electionadmin display so that it includes a link to [[TW:EADMIN]]. Additionally, the links in the script currently redirect to the title in the user's language instead of the correct translation of the page. I will fix this issue.
::But what if the vandal goes at the peak of their rogue and no one takes action? Number 1 is a possible issue. <span style="font-family:Verdana">[[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#A1000E">talk</span>]])</span> 18:35, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
#The Twinkle gadget does not function at all. I intend to replace its content to load via mw.loader.load.
#I would like to convert my script for finding unused pages and files into a gadget.
#I plan to update my MassRollback gadget to a newer version.
#Similar to Twinkle, I would also like to replace the content of MediaWiki:Gadget-RedWarn.js to load via mw.loader.load, as it does not currently work properly.


I welcome any feedback or additional suggestions from the community. Best regards, [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 19:57, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
:{{Support|Strong}} option 2 --- ''<span style="background:#000000;border:1px solid #FF0080;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#F70D1A">Bhairava7</span>]] β€’ [[User talk:Bhairava7|<span style="color:#FF6700">(@pΓ­ng mΡ”-tΞ±lk mΡ”)</span>]]</span>'' 18:21, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{Support|strongest}} Option 1, {{Oppose}} 2 and 3. Given that this is the first such incident, I don't think we need to do anything right now. If this starts happening more often in the future, then maybe. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 20:25, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{support|strong}} per MacFan4000. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 22:03, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::Hey @[[User:VancityRothaug|VancityRothaug]], can you make it clear which option you support? [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 18:27, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{oppose}} for option one, but {{support|strong}} on options 2 and 3. It's better to be safe than sorry. <span style="font-family:Verdana">[[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="color:#A1000E">talk</span>]])</span> 15:20, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:1 ~ 3 ~ 2 : Doing nothing in this case is the best option as it was the first incident and I don't think that there would be more such incidents in future. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 02:38, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{Oppose}} option 1; {{support|strong}} Option 2. Self removal of crat should exist, and removal of others crat should only be done by stewards. {{Support}} for option 3, that can also work. ''Prevention is better than cure'', something should be done. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 10:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{Oppose|Weak oppose}} option 1, {{Support}} option 2 or 3. It would be useful to have more users capable of taking action quickly if this kind of abuse happens again in the future. --'''[[User:Brewster239|<span style="color:#002F6C;">Brewster</span>]][[Special:Contribs/Brewster239|<span style="color:white;background:#002F6C;">239</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Brewster239#top|<span style="color:#002F6C;">''talk''</span>]]</sup>''' 17:15, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
:Since Drummingman is going to close this anyways, {{oppose}} option 1, {{support|weak}} option 2, {{support}} option 3. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:22, 18 January 2025 (UTC)


:LGTM. Per my comments on Discord, I don’t have any concerns regarding your knowledge or skill with IA tools, simply curious why you were socking on Miraheze. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#0F69B3;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 21:25, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
==SecurePoll on Test Wiki==

There has recently been a discussion on Phorge regarding the addition of the SecurePoll Extension to Test Wiki. @[[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] said that community consensus is required to add the extension so I would like to ask the community on how they would like to see the extension accommodated in 2 easy options to select:
'''Option 1''' - SecurePoll is a Steward-only tool used for hosting community discussions. '''Option 2''' - SecurePoll is a tool usable by everyone, for both community discussions and for testing purposes. '''Option 3 ''' Dont add SecurePoll to Test Wiki. With kind regards, [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 14:13, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

===Option 1===
This would involve adding SecurePoll as a steward-only extension.
:<s>{{support}} as requester.</s> [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 14:16, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::{{withdraw}} [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 17:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{oppose|Strong oppose}} The whole reason I requested this extention in [[phab:T117]] is because this is heavily restricted in Wikimedia wikis, and will be useful for the community as a whole to test. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 15:26, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{oppose|Strong oppose}} This extension should not be used for non testing reasons, like community discussions. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:17, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

===Option 2===
This would involve adding SecurePoll for everyone.
:{{support|strongest}} as requester. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 14:16, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:<s>{{support|Strong}} See my above comment. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 15:26, 17 January 2025 (UTC)</s>
::I am a little confused. On another proposal you said that you did not want this to be used for community discussions. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:X|X]] Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this option to grant the rights to create/edit polls to everyone for testing? <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 03:11, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
::::This one is for testing AND community discussion. Option four is just testing. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 17:20, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::If that's the case, I have striked my vote. Other comments by me should clarify my stance. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 17:56, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}} would be helpful, assuming the PII issue with election admins gets fixed. [[User:Alachuckthebuck|Alachuckthebuck]] ([[User talk:Alachuckthebuck|talk]]) 17:50, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{oppose|Strong oppose}} This extension should not be used for non testing reasons, like community discussions. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::The β€œfor everyone” part implies that everyone would be granted access to this extension though. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 18:59, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Your original statement was β€œ SecurePoll is a tool usable by everyone, for both community discussions and for testing purposes” As long as the extension is being used for non-testing purposes, I oppose. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 20:13, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::::You’re most certainly right hence why I have switched my support to the 4th option which excludes all usage from non-testing purposes. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 21:40, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

===Option 3===
This involves voting against the addition of SecurePoll.
:<s>{{support}} as requester.</s> [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 14:16, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::{{withdraw}}. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 17:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}}, avoiding redundant votes in other headers to explain my piece here. I do not believe SecurePoll brings anything to TestWiki. It is meant for specific use which I challenge even being overly suitable for Miraheze let alone a far smaller project. There is effectively nothing to be tested, nothing that is practical in the everyday life of MediaWiki that TestWiki is available for. There is less in this respect to test than say, CentralAuth, which itself has a host of (admittedly somewhat different) reasons it would not be suitable. Other extensions or features would make sense to me before this one. So SecurePoll is neither suitable for testing ''or'' non testing purposes. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|πŸ’¬]]''')''' 23:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:Raidarr|Raidarr]] There is stuff to be tested right? SecurePoll has various poll types and voter suffrage requirements to name a couple. Could you explain how it'll harm by adding this extension? Thanks. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 03:16, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
:::My question with this extension is twofold; what is there worth to test, and what value is it to be tested. In the case of most other extensions there are utilities for everyday sysops where it makes sense to get the ins and outs of the behavior. SecurePoll is an obscure, involved extension best involved when keys are being handled by trusted third parties for poll integrity, and since this relates to PII and tech duty I don't see this being meaningfully tested in any graphical way. The result is a point and click extension with extremely low market use. Hence not much brought to the table for testing purposes to merit the care of addition and whatever quirks, known or unknown its inclusion may bring.
:::This is a single vote, perhaps two when considering Justa paired with five, so if this logic does not compell the mass it is fine, and I do not feel strongly enough to persist further as nothing is necessarily harmed by adding it. I simply wish for more than the slim explanation and 'meh why not' to merit addition.
:::As a completely off topic point I recommend withdrawn/modified votes be struck by the original voter when this is done, as the reply with 'withdraw' or reply that starts with a withdraw and makes a barely noticeable change to the vote strength can be mildly confusing. --'''[[User:Raidarr|raidarr]]''' '''('''[[User_talk:Raidarr|πŸ’¬]]''')''' 09:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
:I was planning to close this, but I am going to support this option now, per the articulate reasoning of Raidarr. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

===Option 4===
This would involve installing SecurePoll and using it only for testing, not community discussion.
:{{support}} [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 14:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}} Community discussion is a '''discussion''' for a reason, SecurePoll is a '''vote'''. With the limited participants (''not in the order of hundreds'') in discussions/sensitive perm requests here setting up a SecurePoll is a waste of time. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 15:26, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{support|strong}} per Bunnypranav. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 19:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::{{withdraw}}, switching to {{support|strongest}}. There’s no point in using SecurePoll for discussions. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 21:41, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{Support|strongest}} [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 21:33, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{support|strongest}} [[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 07:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

===Discussion===
{{ping|VancityRothaug}} How are you supporting both option 1, 2 and 3, which from my understanding are completely opposite viewpoints. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 15:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

:These are only my opinions on this matter. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 17:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::now that you mention this my votes don’t make sense. I have now corrected my votes. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 17:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:::have you seen [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T301180|this phab task about PII]?[[User:Alachuckthebuck|Alachuckthebuck]] ([[User talk:Alachuckthebuck|talk]]) 18:04, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Yes, I have - I’ll be leaving the rights assignments to the System Administrators. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 21:43, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:VancityRothaug|VancityRothaug]] Could you also strike the votes using <nowiki><s> and </s></nowiki> for clear clarity. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 11:38, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
::::{{Done}} [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 13:57, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

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Proposal: Abolish the non-steward suppressor right

Latest comment: 02:325 comments4 people in discussion

This was already partly discussed in the Test Wiki Discord server, and I'm ultimately bringing it up here as a proposal for the community to comment on.

Simply, I'd like to propose abolishing non-steward suppressors on this wiki. We currently have two such users, me being one of them, but ultimately at this time, there is really not much need. There are mainly two factors to this, which I will be listing here.

  1. The amount of suppressions, and especially suppression requests, are already low to this date. Except for two suppressions this month (one performed by me and the other by a steward), the last 50 suppressions date back to July last year, most of which were either reverted, performed as tests or performed for old edits/log entries.
  2. The community is too small, and not large enough to justify having independent suppressors or checkusers. On a wiki as small as this one, it is likely best to center the suppression task to the stewards, both since they already are experienced with CU/OS and personal information, and considering that they have already been the ones mainly handling suppressions on this wiki either way. This would also be a benefit for the security aspects as well, even if compromises are indeed rare here.

Potentially, the community could consider to instead elect new stewards with the inactivity of Dmehus and decreased activity of Justa and MacFan, but in the current state, there isn't really a need nor a community large enough to justify having NSS at this time, and I therefore propose to instead center this task to the stewards. EPIC (talk) 13:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Support ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:38, 30 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
 Support VancityRothaug (talk + contribs) 08:00, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
 Support -C1K98V (πŸ’¬ βœ’οΈ πŸ“‚) 02:32, 2 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Nomination of User:EPIC for Stewardship

Latest comment: 09:1110 comments9 people in discussion

As with the NSS removal, this was already partly discussed in the Test Wiki Discord server and I would like to officially create this nomination here on the community portal. I am hereby nominating EPIC for a stewardship here on Test Wiki. I believe that they have shown extreme dedication to all the hats they hold both on Test Wiki and other, notable wikis and that they would be a perfect fit to help oversee the administration of Test Wiki, alongside with the other 3 stewards. As many of you may know, EPIC is also a steward on Wikimedia which I find to be a great achievement, further improving his experience. Please let me know if you have any other questions in the discussion below. VancityRothaug (talk + contribs) 08:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

I stated it in the Discord server as well so I will partly repeat that here; I'm willing to serve if the community and current stewards are in favor of it, since I could bring some further useful experience and extra help especially now that Dmehus is not currently active and two of the other stewards have decreased activity. One of the stewards have expressed their endorsement beforehand, so I'm ultimately accepting. I shouldn't have a big issue with keeping up my activity either, though I'll otherwise resign if I end up not meeting my expected activity levels.
Noting for transparency that I'm currently a steward for the Wikimedia projects as well as a sysop on the Swedish Wikipedia and Meta (and a CheckUser on the latter). EPIC (talk) 08:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Support

  1.  Support as nominator. VancityRothaug (talk + contribs) 08:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
  2.  Strong support Irrespective of the NSS removal proposal, EPIC is a clearly suitable candidate, and will definitely help this wiki. Highly trustworthy. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
  3.  Support sure, good luck! BZPN (talk) 19:26, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
  4.  Strongest support Paflidy (talk) 00:45, 1 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
  5.  Support Good luck! Sav β€’ ( Edits | Talk ) 19:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
  6.  Support Keep up the good work. -C1K98V (πŸ’¬ βœ’οΈ πŸ“‚) 02:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
  7.  Support Bosco (talk) 08:51, 2 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
  8.  Support LisafBia (talk) 09:11, 2 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Abstain

Oppose

IA changes

Latest comment: Yesterday at 21:252 comments2 people in discussion

Hello.

In response to my request for Interface Administrator rights, I have been asked (by @Justarandomamerican) to provide a list of at least three planned changes for review by other Interface Administrators. Below are the changes I intend to implement:

  1. In MediaWiki:Gadget-UserInfo.js, I plan to fix the electionadmin display so that it includes a link to TW:EADMIN. Additionally, the links in the script currently redirect to the title in the user's language instead of the correct translation of the page. I will fix this issue.
  2. The Twinkle gadget does not function at all. I intend to replace its content to load via mw.loader.load.
  3. I would like to convert my script for finding unused pages and files into a gadget.
  4. I plan to update my MassRollback gadget to a newer version.
  5. Similar to Twinkle, I would also like to replace the content of MediaWiki:Gadget-RedWarn.js to load via mw.loader.load, as it does not currently work properly.

I welcome any feedback or additional suggestions from the community. Best regards, BZPN (talk) 19:57, 1 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

LGTM. Per my comments on Discord, I don’t have any concerns regarding your knowledge or skill with IA tools, simply curious why you were socking on Miraheze. X (talk + contribs) 21:25, 1 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
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