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| == Mind if I suggest something? ==
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| | | The name of the userRightsManager gadget has changed, so some users may have the tick turned off. It may be necessary to re-enable it in [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets|the preferences]]. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 13:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
| Instead of having your access to the admin tools after 1 month goes by without activity, why not just have it be 3 months instead? I'd say that 1 month is a bit too short, and I'm not sure how one month would be enough of a reason. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 13:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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| ==== Supports ====
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| : {{Support}} I like this idea, and can't see any drawbacks to it. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 16:27, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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| : {{Support}} I think it should be extended. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 16:36, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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| : {{Support}} Per nom. [[User:I_am_One|I am one]] ([[User_talk:I_am_One|as you are three]]) 23:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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| : {{Support}} I absolutely agree with that! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:19, 18 April 2022 (UTC) | |
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| :{{oppose}} We're giving out adminship and 'cratship as if they were candies. Isn't that good enough? [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:47, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| ::It's definitely good but it would save bureaucrats some work by not having to re-add user rights so often and also save everyone else the hassle of having to ask for the rights again after just a short one-month hiatus. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 12:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :::{{u|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh}} Being honest, revocation of an advanced permission after 1 month just seems too short, and I'd recommend at least 3 months, as it's usually fair, in terms of how we all operate on the Public Test Wiki on Miraheze. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 13:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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| === Neutral ===
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| :{{neutral}}--[[User:S871|S871]] ([[User talk:S871|talk]]) 00:09, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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| == Should the policy be updated now? ==
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| Seeing as this has majority support, should one of the bureaucrats update the policy to reflect the new time? Or do we have to get a Steward's approval for policy changes? [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 14:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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| == CheckUser request ==
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| *[[User:七海娜娜米2b]]
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| *[[User:七海娜娜米3b]]
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| *[[User:想舞花]]
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| These 2 users are blocked intefinite on Chinese Wikipedia and locked on Wikimedia foundation and [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=30118 this action] is suspected. Thanks! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 16:37, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :{{Ping|想舞花}} Could you explain the reason for [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=30118 this action] please? [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 20:12, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
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| ::{{ping|AlPaD}} I mean: give him permissions other than admin.--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 23:19, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :::{{Ping|想舞花}} Thanks for reply! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 07:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :Maybe it's their test account. Also, I don't know why being indefinitely blocked on Wikipedia or globally locked on Wikimedia matters here. My Wikimedia account is globally locked and blocked indefinitely on English Wikipedia, but as long as people behave here, I think they should be welcome here. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 20:16, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
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| ::{{Ping|Seiyena}} I don't think is a test account because he had requested administrator rights, while the test accounts don't need to be requested. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a sockpuppet issue. It's better steward see the issue and let our know if he needs CheckUser. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 07:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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| == [[Special:AbuseFilter/52]] ==
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| The third line should have been <code>& !page_id == 702</code>. Currently it's checking for spam edits on [[TW:RFP]]... [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:48, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :Pinging {{ping|Dmehus|p=}}. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| ::Can't admins edit the filters themselves? I know that on another wiki that was possible. Just saying. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :::Filters with restricted actions (namely, blocking) can only be edited by Stewards. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :It would actually be <code>page_id != 702</code>, since this is an equality check. Also, it's generally good practice to surround any negation that isn't a single function with parentheses, like so: <code>!('x' in y)</code> — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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| == In regards to [[User:Seiyena]]. ==
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| :''The following discussion is closed. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it</b>. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.''
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| ::This has already been addressed, by another user. I strongly loathe any sort of 'community block' for [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], even marginally good-faith users. Block, CheckUser, rinse, and repeat has been tried, and I'm not keen to go back there, at least not ''yet''. This is a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]-managed affair, and I did suggest it might've been ''too soon'' to grant bureaucrat. In any case, I'm going to work on having [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] deploy the Miraheze global abuse filter to mitigate this. I don't believe an indefinite suspension of bureaucrat; I would rather manage this a month at a time. If bureaucrat revocation is required, I'll do that. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| Hi all, I hope this message finds you well.
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| After [[Special:Diff/21471|noticing]] more and more reports regarding Seiyena, I have come to the decision to cast a vote regarding this user.
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| This user has made '''several''' racist, homophobic and frankly, disgusting comments on this Wiki. They have had chance after chance to stop this behavior and have even been given Administrator permissions after every "apology".
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| Frankly, I think they are unfit to be a sysop on this Wiki and I am here to ask for the community's opinion on a blacklist for requesting permissions.
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| Pinging {{Ping|Dmehus}} & {{Ping|MacFan4000}} for their opinion. [[User:Trayfel|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :Question: Is this blacklist intended to be temporary or indefinite? [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:27, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| ::Considering the amount of abuse you have contributed towards this Wiki, I would say if granted, the RFP blacklist would be indefinite. [[User:Trayfel|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:30, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :::{{Ping|Trayfel}} Hello! Maybe for a while she should be blocked from some namespaces and have lower rights (autopatrol, researcher etc). [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 19:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| ::::I like AlPad's idea, and wouldn't be against a temporary blacklist, to be honest. I don't like the indefinite idea, but do feel that maybe temporary is warranted. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :::::With all due regards Sieyena, this isn't down to you. {{Ping|AlPaD}} I agree, I think an indefinite blacklist from sysop permissions with the exception of Seiyena being allowed Autopatrol and researcher. Thoughts? [[User:Trayfel|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:59, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| I know that I can't make this decision by myself, but I do think I should at least be able to offer my views on this matter. My proposal is a temporary blacklist from requesting permissions together with a partial block from the Talk namespace and maybe the Request Permissions page. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 21:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :''The above discussion is preserved as an archive. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it</b>. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.'' </div>
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| :Noting that the aforementioned abuse filter has been deployed. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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| == Lift protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] ==
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| :''The following discussion is closed. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it</b>. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.''
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| ::{{Done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/31337|Done, at least temporarily]]}}, [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] et al., chiefly since [[Test Wiki:Interface administrators|interface administrator]] granting and revocation has since been restricted to Stewards for mainly security purposes, but ''do'' note we reserve the right to reinstate [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]] protection for this high impact CSS interface page depending on if [[w:WP:BEANS|BEANSey]] things happen. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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| Could the steward-only create protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] be removed? I'm trying to deploy some styles to get the {{tl|mbox}} series of templates properly working. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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| : {{Support}}. I also thought the other day I was going to work with styles, but it was blocked. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 13:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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| : {{Support}} I think the limitations on the MediaWiki:common page are; must be granted bureaucrat permits [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 09:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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| == [[Special:AbuseFilter/89|Filter 89]] ==
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| Looks like we're getting a few false positives here; I fixed a typo on an AbuseFilter warning and apparently I was disallowed. See [https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?wptarget=3PPYB6 my abuse log] for reference.
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| @[[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]]—Courtesy ping if you have ideas. Thanks. —[[User:3PPYB6|3PPYB6]] ([[User talk:3PPYB6|talk]]) 16:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :This is the result of the filter filtering for the <code><nowiki><br></nowiki></code> tag, which is a very common indicator of spam. This is actually unnecessary (already in another filter), so I've removed it and extended the exempted groups. {{ping|Kazrok4545}} I've temporarily disabled the filter pending clarification on its intent, were you intending to do something akin to [[Special:AbuseFilter/88|filter 88]], or was this intended to be an addition to [[Special:AbuseFilter/52|filter 52]]? — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 20:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
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| ::Sorry, I forgot to switch off this filter. It was created for testing. It is advisable to add these words to filter 52. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 12:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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| == Rename Account ==
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| Hi,
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| Could you please rename my account Videojeux4 to HeartsDo, please.
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| (Proof: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:HeartsDo here]) [[User:Videojeux4|Videojeux4]] ([[User talk:Videojeux4|talk]]) 04:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :Pinging {{Ping|Dmehus}} {{Ping|MacFan4000}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 05:51, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :[[User:Videojeux4|HeartsDo]], though I don't likely doubt this to be you, would you mind confirming your Test Wiki account from your Miraheze account? Thanks. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :I know the account to be legit. {{Done}}. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 03:12, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
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| ::Thanks! :p [[User:HeartsDo|HeartsDo]] ([[User talk:HeartsDo|talk]]) 16:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
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| == Block Request ==
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| Hello, I think it would be good if I took a break from here for a bit. Could someone please block me for a few days, like maybe until May 1? Thank you very much. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 09:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :{{ping|Seiyena}} I am willing to give out the block, on condition that:
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| :# You agree not to evade your block using sockpuppets.
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| :# You agree to be hard-blocked (i.e. with autoblock enabled).
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| :[[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:51, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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| ::I agree to both conditions.[[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 11:22, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :::You have now been blocked. Enjoy your break. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 11:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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| == Any thoughts on this proposed change to filter 88? ==
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| Right now filter 88 is set to simply disallow the action that is trying to be performed. Given the number of recent triggers to that filter, maybe that should be changed to instead issue a 3-day block any time the filter is triggered as well as remove from any special groups like admin or bureaucrat. I think that might make it more effective at its job and also not cause it to be triggered so much. This proposal would need a steward's help to implement if it's approved since it involves adding restricted actions. But I do think this might be beneficial to the target of the filter.
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| Any thoughts on whether this is a good or bad idea? [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 12:50, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :I see no problem if there are at least two non-steward users who can modify that filter. [[:wikipedia:Oligarchy|Oligarchy]] is not really a nice way to work, especially in wikis. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 17:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
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| ::Currently, filters with restricted actions (i.e. block, rangeblock, and degroup; though the later two aren't enabled at all here) can only be edited by Stewards. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 15:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
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| :::I know. I'm waiting for [[Test Wiki:Community portal/06#Filter #52|this]]. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 20:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
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| == Name Change Request ==
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| Hi, can I please get my name changed to Freezeflame? Thanks! [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:16, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
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