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==UserRightsManager==
The name of the userRightsManager gadget has changed, so some users may have the tick turned off. It may be necessary to re-enable it in [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets|the preferences]]. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 13:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


==Merry Christmas!==
==Systemadministrator==
Merry Christmas to all those here at The Test Wiki.


Have a wonderful day and all the best for 2024!
{{Ping|MacFan4000}} I would want to say that LisafBia, the two stewards (Drummingman and Justarandomamerican), and I, indicate that I voted, and all votes are oppose (formerly my vote was a neutral, but changed to oppose regarding most people's concerns). MacFan4000, you may have to close as unsuccessful. {{Ping|Justman10000}} If you have any further questions regarding this or want to vote on yourself, please state your questions below the votes in the "Questions by the candidate" section or take place of your vote here before MacFan4000 is closing it. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 20:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


Lots of love, [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 17:51, 24 December 2023 (UTC).
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==userRightsManager gadget is broken==
I would like to be a system administrator so that I can also support at system configuration level... In addition to managing permissions, I would also keep the software, extensions and skins up to date and optimise the configurations!
I tried to approve a user's permission request with the userRightsManager gadget and found that the gadget is not working properly. Can the interface administrators fix this issue? [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 19:07, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
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It would be really nice to get a chance 🙂 [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 16:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


:I've reviewed the code and tested the script. It appears to be working for me. Could you please provide more details on what isn't working for you? [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 14:20, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:Did you know how to use Git, PHP, and SSH, and you are active on this wiki? Please see [[Project:System administrators]]. Also, it would be really nice for you to be a system administrator if you know understanding of Apache and a server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:00, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:{{Done|Fixed}}, the move to Request ''for'' permissions broke the script initially. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::I already work with Linux Debian since 4 years! So yes 🙂 [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
::Makes sense, thanks for the fix. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 14:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Are you aware that this very high trust permission can cause great damage if it's improperly used? [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 17:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
::::I am aware of this! Yes [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::So, voting by the two stewards and by some users is required. If the votes are successful, then it goes to the system administrator to grant the permission or not. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
::::::The votes are all oppose that it is likely to be unsuccessful. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 20:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC) (sorry for the late signing)


==Request for Supressor right==
===Voting===
I request oversight rights from our community for 2 days. I will only use it for testing and I promise not to compromise anyone's privacy. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 21:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)


:{{not done}} as suppressor is not a test right and will not be given to those who are not stewards or community elected non-steward suppressors, for obvious privacy concerns. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
====Support====
::One question: as the suppressor right isn't a test right, is the non-steward suppressor right also a non-test right? – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 20:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Indeed. And therefore it is not meant to be tested. It is meant only for serious suppression.
:::The user right is not intended as a test flag like most roles here. It is intended only for serious suppression. System administrator, steward, checkuser, suppressor and non-steward suppressor are emphatically not test roles. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 20:25, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Interface admin is also somewhere in the middle. It isn't a testing right, but some people do use it for that. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 20:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)


==My IA right==
====Oppose====
Could a steward remove my IA permission, please? Thanks a lot, and goodbye! [[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 06:23, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
*{{Oppose|Weak Oppose}} Hi, thanks for volunteering. Unfortunately, I must weakly oppose your request at this time due to lack of necessary trust or track record. I do not think you would take the site down, abuse your power in some other way, or go inactive suddenly, but you do not hold Stewardship here or administratorship elsewhere, and you don't have that long of a track record, so I cannot be sure. Consider this a moral support of sorts; I have no objection to another run in the medium-term future. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*:Like I said, I'd be happy to get a chance, and if you don't think I would abuse my power (which I wouldn't too), then what's the problem? [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*::This permission is very powerful, can lock the database and have access to PHP, SSH, Git, and Github and even Apache and the server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*::System administratorship is a very powerful position. I prefer to err on the side of caution. Can you describe your previous experience with FiveM and Minecraft servers? Do you have PHP experience? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*:::For the networks, I installed and configured web applications and Minecraft plugins [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*{{oppose}} Hi, nice that you signed up and want to get more involved, I can only appreciate that. But unfortunately, here and for this reason, I want to cast my dissenting vote. I am very reluctant to assign this role to someone I don't know well. Anyway, are you already a system administrator, steward or admin on a major wiki project somewhere? On a Wikimedia, Miraheze or other large wikifarm. On these wikis, you become one only after a thorough review and vote. To me, that is a hard requirement for a system administrator. SA has the unlimited power to shut down an entire wiki (database lock and unlock) block anyone and deny  or grant anyone user rights. Therefore, this right can only be granted to highly trusted users. Of course, this is separate from the technical side, which is also important.  [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*{{oppose|Strongly oppose}} It doesn't make much sense to give a user who has been a member for less than 1 month a higher level of authority than even the stewards such as the system administrator. You need to have 3 or more months of activity history. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 18:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*:Nowhere does it say anything about that... So... And is it so difficult to give someone a chance? And is it so difficult to give someone a chance? It's not really motivating [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 18:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*::See what the text LisafBia and the 2 stewards said, plus the vote from me right below. Not satisfying and broken trust. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 20:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*{{oppose|Absolute oppose}} Seriously?!? This user has no long history, new to this wiki, despite knowing PHP, SSH, and Git and needs more experience with Apache and a server (PostgreSQL, MariaDB, MySQL, SQLite). System administrator is a very powerful right, even more than interface administrator and especially intended to be more powerful than regular stewards, including locking the database and have access to PHP, site-sensitive files, SSH, and Git as well as the server such as MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, and SQLite and Apache. They'll have access to DefaultSettings.php, LocalSettings.php, and NoLocalSettings.php. This right is extremely powerful. I hope this will be absolutely rejected. You'll hear no complaints from me. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 20:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


:Dear, @[[User:Username|Username]] {{done}}. Thank you for your edits, we look forward to seeing you again. Kind regards, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 10:21, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
====Neutral====
*<s>{{Neutral}} Used Linux Debian and may be trusted, but I don't know if completely trusted.[[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</s>
*:I would be! I have already system-administered around 20 Minecraft and FiveM networks! Sure, this has nothing to do with MediaWiki itself, but it's about the principle! As I said, I would be happy to get a chance [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*::Possibly some enhanced trust would be needed. Try to think when you become a system administrator. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*:::Vote since changed. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 20:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


I thought I was ready to go. But I guess I feel like staying longer considering I've worked so hard on keeping this wiki organized, and I have left some things that have yet to look completed. Can somebody grant me my rights back, please? Thank you! [[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:43, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
====Comments====


:{{re|Username}} I have granted you back the crat and admin rights. A steward will have to do the IA bit. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 21:53, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
===Questions by the candidate===
::Glad to have you back. Courtesy ping @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] & @[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]]. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 21:57, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
:::{{done}}, welcome back. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 22:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)


Thanks, all. [[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 23:27, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
===Questions for the candidate===
 
==Proposal to change an abuse filter warning==
 
Hello, everybody.
 
I propose moving [[MediaWiki:Newuser-externallinks]] to [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-newuser-externallinks]], and changing the text of the filter warning message to something like this:
 
'''Warning:''' An automated filter has identified this edit containing external links. Test Wiki may not be used as a vehicle for promotion, and may result in being blocked from editing. If this edit is constructive, you may click "Publish changes" again to confirm it. If you received this message in error, please inform an [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|administrator]] of what you were trying to do.
 
Any inputs or concerns about this? If there are no objections, I'll be happy to do those changes in a few days. Thanks. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:As the original creator of the customized warning, I {{support|support}} this change. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::{{done}}. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 13:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 
==RFC: Clarify [[TW:IP|the inactivity policy]] for Non-steward suppressors==
{{discussion top|{{done|Passes}}. Non-steward suppressors will be held to a 3 month inactivity requirement. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:54, 28 January 2024 (UTC)}}
This is a rather simple proposal. Shall the inactivity policy:
#Be amended to include a 3 month inactivity period for Non-steward suppressors,
#Be amended to include a 1 year inactivity period for Non-steward suppressors; or
#Be amended to include another inactivity period for non-steward suppressors?
[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:38, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:{{support}} 1 as proposer. 3 months seems plenty enough, rather than the 1 year inactivity period granted to Stewards and Sysadmins. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{s}} option #1 per Justa. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{s}} the #1 option. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
{{discussion bottom}}
 
==Another proposal to import Edit filter warning template==
 
I was thinking if I could import the Edit filter warning template from the English Wikipedia, but leave out the report error since there is no edit filter false positive page on Test Wiki. Any inputs, concerns or objections?
 
When triggering an abuse filter, it shows a red box with text; maybe we could add that proposed template under the name "Abuse filter warning", and protect it under an appropriate protection as a high-risk template? Thank you. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:We can also redirect people to here (the community portal) to report false positives, or to contact an administrator directly. I think having some form of template would make things easier, so no objections. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::One more question: is bureaucrat protection appropriate when protecting a high-risk template? – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:::In this case, it would be, since the template would be used in the interface, and not protecting it as such would allow users without the edit interface right to edit the interface. You can use discretion when protecting pages. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Fine by me! [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::Since there are no objections, I'll implement them, but do we keep the report error button that can redirect here to the community portal or not? – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 15:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::Yes, you can redirect it to the community portal. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 15:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}, but it took a little bit of trial and error for the url to actually work. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 16:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 
==Mobile edit==
 
Does anyone have an idea why [[Special:Diff/35138|this]] and [[Special:Diff/35122|this]] was marked as mobile web edits, considering that I am on a computer? [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 19:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:That is weird, never heard of that happening before. Were you using mobile view when making the edits? [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:21, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
:It's possible you switched to mobile view and didn't realize it, like X said above. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:25, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
::I was using the normal desktop view, but checking e.g. [[Special:Contributions/FuzzyBot|FuzzyBot]], it seems to be the same for some of those edits as well. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 19:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
:::As far as I know, FuzzyBot uses the same tags as the edit/log entry that was made to cause it to perform an action. I'm not sure what could have caused that software-wise. {{ping|MacFan4000}} Not urgent at all, but this is an odd technical situation. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 
==EPIC==
{{userlinks|EPIC}} {{RfP apl}}
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*'''Requested right''': Non-steward suppressor
*'''Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom''' (optional): [[meta:User:EPIC]]
<!-- Place Yes/No in each of the boxes below (like so: [Yes]) to affirm your consent with what follows them. If placed No in any box or left blank, then it may result in your request taking longer to process due to discussion as to why you do not agree with the statement, and may ultimately lead to your request being denied. -->
*[yes] I am familiar with all of [[:Category:Test Wiki policies|Test Wiki's policies]] and agree to follow them completely.
*[yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
*[yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
 
'''Other comments''': Hello there! Might seem odd, but now that our first non-steward suppressor has been chosen, I would like to offer my help and assist as the second one. I'm willing to help with suppression when needed, and I am available/contactable at most times of the day. I go by the same username on the Wikimedia projects, where I am an administrator at two larger wikis, and I have experience with handling sensitive information as a member of the [[meta:VRT|Wikimedia VRT]]. Beforehand I have read [[Test Wiki:Suppressors]], and the [[Test Wiki:Privacy policy|privacy policy]]. Also courtesy pinging {{ping|Justarandomamerican}} and {{ping|Drummingman}}. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 00:14, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:Just in case, I have made a confirmation edit on Wikimedia: [[:wikipedia:Special:Diff/1200184340|see here]] [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 00:17, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{neutral}} Though you are a perfectly qualified candidate, I'd like to see the answer to one question, can you explain the need for another suppressor? There are currently 3 active people who are able to handle suppression. If there's a good need, I'll be supporting, as more than qualified! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::Hello [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]]! There isn't necessarily the need, but it gives additional value, especially since two of the current stewards are less active, and as mentioned a bit further up, also gives different hours of coverage. FYI, my mainly available times are at most hours within the UTC+1 time zone (since I'm quite a night owl) with the exception for the early morning hours, and I regularly check my mail inbox, so I'm able to quickly act when needed. So, I am of course aware that this is not a role for testing, and I hope my answer is sufficient - feel free to ask further questions if needed. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 09:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Addition: If both stewards choose to approve this, I would suggest also checking that X is not completely against this :) [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 15:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{neutral}}, leaning oppose. Well qualified on other wikis, but has only had an account here for about a month. Also not sure if we need another but I can be swayed. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
{{s}} leaning neutral, I don't really have any objections, but think a month is a bit early. I do take note that EPIC has [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2024/Statements/EPIC applied] to be a steward on Wikimedia, if he is elected, it could be an advantage in fighting cross-wiki vandalism. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 15:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:I am also curious how this will turn out. If it is successful, it will likely also take most of EPIC's time. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 16:23, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::I will see how it goes, but I hope to be able to split my activity between different wikis like I've been able to so far, and I should be able to work it out - and if not, I would of course be removed for inactivity per Test Wiki policy. Either way, right now this is mostly depending on Justarandomamerican, so I suggest pending his reply to begin with. If this is successful I do of course plan to take it easy at first, and ask a steward if in doubt. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 17:14, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 
==New filters made today==
 
Today, I have decided to make filter 121 which prevents personal attacks or harassment on user/user talk pages, and filter 122, which prevents new users from editing others' user pages.
 
Confirmed users and sysops may edit user pages, but they may not add {{tl|unlocked userpage}} on a random user page; it may only be done by the user themselves or a steward.
 
Any opinions or input? Thanks. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 19:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:LGTM. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:38, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::Mind if I test adding the unlocked userpage template on your userpage if this can be prevented by the filter? – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 19:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Go ahead. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Per [[Special:AbuseLog/5852]], the filter is working as intended. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 19:56, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 
==Piccadilly socks==
 
I'm going to be combing over the logs and trying to compile a list of all the account Piccadilly has used and block them all with the same reason. I then might make some LTA pages like Wikipedia has to inform people of a little more about how to detect and deal with specific LTAs. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 22:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:Maybe should we disable filter 92? The target of the filter hasn't returned since 2022. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 23:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::It is very specific and isn't hurting anything as is so I don't know if there's really a need to disable it. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:28, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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The name of the userRightsManager gadget has changed, so some users may have the tick turned off. It may be necessary to re-enable it in the preferences. LisafBia (talk) 13:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@MacFan4000: I would want to say that LisafBia, the two stewards (Drummingman and Justarandomamerican), and I, indicate that I voted, and all votes are oppose (formerly my vote was a neutral, but changed to oppose regarding most people's concerns). MacFan4000, you may have to close as unsuccessful. @Justman10000: If you have any further questions regarding this or want to vote on yourself, please state your questions below the votes in the "Questions by the candidate" section or take place of your vote here before MacFan4000 is closing it. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 20:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would like to be a system administrator so that I can also support at system configuration level... In addition to managing permissions, I would also keep the software, extensions and skins up to date and optimise the configurations!

It would be really nice to get a chance 🙂 Justman10000 (talk) 16:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Did you know how to use Git, PHP, and SSH, and you are active on this wiki? Please see Project:System administrators. Also, it would be really nice for you to be a system administrator if you know understanding of Apache and a server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 17:00, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I already work with Linux Debian since 4 years! So yes 🙂 Justman10000 (talk) 17:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Are you aware that this very high trust permission can cause great damage if it's improperly used? Codename Noreste 🤔 La Suma 17:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am aware of this! Yes Justman10000 (talk) 17:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So, voting by the two stewards and by some users is required. If the votes are successful, then it goes to the system administrator to grant the permission or not. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 17:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The votes are all oppose that it is likely to be unsuccessful. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 20:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC) (sorry for the late signing)Reply[reply]

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  •  Weak Oppose Hi, thanks for volunteering. Unfortunately, I must weakly oppose your request at this time due to lack of necessary trust or track record. I do not think you would take the site down, abuse your power in some other way, or go inactive suddenly, but you do not hold Stewardship here or administratorship elsewhere, and you don't have that long of a track record, so I cannot be sure. Consider this a moral support of sorts; I have no objection to another run in the medium-term future. Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Like I said, I'd be happy to get a chance, and if you don't think I would abuse my power (which I wouldn't too), then what's the problem? Justman10000 (talk) 17:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    This permission is very powerful, can lock the database and have access to PHP, SSH, Git, and Github and even Apache and the server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 17:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    System administratorship is a very powerful position. I prefer to err on the side of caution. Can you describe your previous experience with FiveM and Minecraft servers? Do you have PHP experience? Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    For the networks, I installed and configured web applications and Minecraft plugins Justman10000 (talk) 17:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  •  Oppose Hi, nice that you signed up and want to get more involved, I can only appreciate that. But unfortunately, here and for this reason, I want to cast my dissenting vote. I am very reluctant to assign this role to someone I don't know well. Anyway, are you already a system administrator, steward or admin on a major wiki project somewhere? On a Wikimedia, Miraheze or other large wikifarm. On these wikis, you become one only after a thorough review and vote. To me, that is a hard requirement for a system administrator. SA has the unlimited power to shut down an entire wiki (database lock and unlock) block anyone and deny or grant anyone user rights. Therefore, this right can only be granted to highly trusted users. Of course, this is separate from the technical side, which is also important. Drummingman (talk) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  •  Strongly oppose It doesn't make much sense to give a user who has been a member for less than 1 month a higher level of authority than even the stewards such as the system administrator. You need to have 3 or more months of activity history. LisafBia (talk) 18:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Nowhere does it say anything about that... So... And is it so difficult to give someone a chance? And is it so difficult to give someone a chance? It's not really motivating Justman10000 (talk) 18:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    See what the text LisafBia and the 2 stewards said, plus the vote from me right below. Not satisfying and broken trust. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 20:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  •  Absolute oppose Seriously?!? This user has no long history, new to this wiki, despite knowing PHP, SSH, and Git and needs more experience with Apache and a server (PostgreSQL, MariaDB, MySQL, SQLite). System administrator is a very powerful right, even more than interface administrator and especially intended to be more powerful than regular stewards, including locking the database and have access to PHP, site-sensitive files, SSH, and Git as well as the server such as MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, and SQLite and Apache. They'll have access to DefaultSettings.php, LocalSettings.php, and NoLocalSettings.php. This right is extremely powerful. I hope this will be absolutely rejected. You'll hear no complaints from me. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 20:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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