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==UserRightsManager==
The name of the userRightsManager gadget has changed, so some users may have the tick turned off. It may be necessary to re-enable it in [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets|the preferences]]. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 13:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


==Merry Christmas!==
==Systemadministrator==
Merry Christmas to all those here at The Test Wiki.


Have a wonderful day and all the best for 2024!
I would like to be a system administrator so that I can also support at system configuration level... In addition to managing permissions, I would also keep the software, extensions and skins up to date and optimise the configurations!
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It would be really nice to get a chance 🙂 [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 16:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


Lots of love, [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 17:51, 24 December 2023 (UTC).
:Did you know how to use Git, PHP, and SSH, and you are active on this wiki? Please see [[Project:System administrators]]. Also, it would be really nice for you to be a system administrator if you know understanding of Apache and a server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:00, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
::I already work with Linux Debian since 4 years! So yes 🙂 [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::Are you aware that this very high trust permission can cause great damage if it's improperly used? [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 17:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
::::I am aware of this! Yes [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::So, voting by the two stewards and by some users is required. If the votes are successful, then it goes to the system administrator to grant the permission or not. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


==userRightsManager gadget is broken==
===Voting===
I tried to approve a user's permission request with the userRightsManager gadget and found that the gadget is not working properly. Can the interface administrators fix this issue? [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 19:07, 1 January 2024 (UTC)


:I've reviewed the code and tested the script. It appears to be working for me. Could you please provide more details on what isn't working for you? [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 14:20, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
====Support====
:{{Done|Fixed}}, the move to Request ''for'' permissions broke the script initially. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:21, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::Makes sense, thanks for the fix. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 14:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)


==Request for Supressor right==
====Oppose====
I request oversight rights from our community for 2 days. I will only use it for testing and I promise not to compromise anyone's privacy. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 21:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
*{{Oppose|Weak Oppose}} Hi, thanks for volunteering. Unfortunately, I must weakly oppose your request at this time due to lack of necessary trust or track record. I do not think you would take the site down, abuse your power in some other way, or go inactive suddenly, but you do not hold Stewardship here or administratorship elsewhere, and you don't have that long of a track record, so I cannot be sure. Consider this a moral support of sorts; I have no objection to another run in the medium-term future. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*:Like I said, I'd be happy to get a chance, and if you don't think I would abuse my power (which I wouldn't too), then what's the problem? [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*::This permission is very powerful, can lock the database and have access to PHP, SSH, Git, and Github and even Apache and the server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*::System administratorship is a very powerful position. I prefer to err on the side of caution. Can you describe your previous experience with FiveM and Minecraft servers? Do you have PHP experience? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*:::For the networks, I installed and configured web applications and Minecraft plugins [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*{{oppose}} Hi, nice that you signed up and want to get more involved, I can only appreciate that. But unfortunately, here and for this reason, I want to cast my dissenting vote. I am very reluctant to assign this role to someone I don't know well. Anyway, are you already a system administrator, steward or admin on a major wiki project somewhere? On a Wikimedia, Miraheze or other large wikifarm. On these wikis, you become one only after a thorough review and vote. To me, that is a hard requirement for a system administrator. SA has the unlimited power to shut down an entire wiki (database lock and unlock) block anyone and deny  or grant anyone user rights. Therefore, this right can only be granted to highly trusted users. Of course, this is separate from the technical side, which is also important.  [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*{{oppose|Strongly oppose}} It doesn't make much sense to give a user who has been a member for less than 1 month a higher level of authority than even the stewards such as the system administrator. You need to have 3 or more months of activity history. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 18:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*:Nowhere does it say anything about that... So... And is it so difficult to give someone a chance? And is it so difficult to give someone a chance? It's not really motivating [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 18:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


:{{not done}} as suppressor is not a test right and will not be given to those who are not stewards or community elected non-steward suppressors, for obvious privacy concerns. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
====Neutral====
::One question: as the suppressor right isn't a test right, is the non-steward suppressor right also a non-test right? – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 20:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
*{{Neutral}} Used Linux Debian and may be trusted, but I don't know if completely trusted. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::Indeed. And therefore it is not meant to be tested. It is meant only for serious suppression.
*:I would be! I have already system-administered around 20 Minecraft and FiveM networks! Sure, this has nothing to do with MediaWiki itself, but it's about the principle! As I said, I would be happy to get a chance [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::The user right is not intended as a test flag like most roles here. It is intended only for serious suppression. System administrator, steward, checkuser, suppressor and non-steward suppressor are emphatically not test roles. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 20:25, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
*::Possibly some enhanced trust would be needed. Try to think when you become a system administrator. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
::::Interface admin is also somewhere in the middle. It isn't a testing right, but some people do use it for that. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 20:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)


==My IA right==
====Comments====
Could a steward remove my IA permission, please? Thanks a lot, and goodbye! [[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 06:23, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:Dear, @[[User:Username|Username]] {{done}}. Thank you for your edits, we look forward to seeing you again. Kind regards, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 10:21, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 
==Proposal to change an abuse filter warning==
 
Hello, everybody.
 
I propose moving [[MediaWiki:Newuser-externallinks]] to [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-newuser-externallinks]], and changing the text of the filter warning message to something like this:
 
'''Warning:''' An automated filter has identified this edit containing external links. Test Wiki may not be used as a vehicle for promotion, and may result in being blocked from editing. If this edit is constructive, you may click "Publish changes" again to confirm it. If you received this message in error, please inform an [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|administrator]] of what you were trying to do.
 
Any inputs or concerns about this? If there are no objections, I'll be happy to do those changes in a few days. Thanks. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:As the original creator of the customized warning, I {{support|support}} this change. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::{{done}}. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 13:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 
==RFC: Clarify [[TW:IP|the inactivity policy]] for Non-steward suppressors==
 
This is a rather simple proposal. Shall the inactivity policy:
#Be amended to include a 3 month inactivity period for Non-steward suppressors,
#Be amended to include a 1 year inactivity period for Non-steward suppressors; or
#Be amended to include another inactivity period for non-steward suppressors?
[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:38, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:{{support}} 1 as proposer. 3 months seems plenty enough, rather than the 1 year inactivity period granted to Stewards and Sysadmins. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{s}} option #1 per Justa. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{s}} the #1 option. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 
==Another proposal to import Edit filter warning template==
 
I was thinking if I could import the Edit filter warning template from the English Wikipedia, but leave out the report error since there is no edit filter false positive page on Test Wiki. Any inputs, concerns or objections?
 
When triggering an abuse filter, it shows a red box with text; maybe we could add that proposed template under the name "Abuse filter warning", and protect it under an appropriate protection as a high-risk template? Thank you. – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:We can also redirect people to here (the community portal) to report false positives, or to contact an administrator directly. I think having some form of template would make things easier, so no objections. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::One more question: is bureaucrat protection appropriate when protecting a high-risk template? – [[User:64andtim|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:64andtim|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 18:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:::In this case, it would be, since the template would be used in the interface, and not protecting it as such would allow users without the edit interface right to edit the interface. You can use discretion when protecting pages. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Fine by me! [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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The name of the userRightsManager gadget has changed, so some users may have the tick turned off. It may be necessary to re-enable it in the preferences. LisafBia (talk) 13:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Systemadministrator

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I would like to be a system administrator so that I can also support at system configuration level... In addition to managing permissions, I would also keep the software, extensions and skins up to date and optimise the configurations!

It would be really nice to get a chance 🙂 Justman10000 (talk) 16:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Did you know how to use Git, PHP, and SSH, and you are active on this wiki? Please see Project:System administrators. Also, it would be really nice for you to be a system administrator if you know understanding of Apache and a server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 17:00, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I already work with Linux Debian since 4 years! So yes 🙂 Justman10000 (talk) 17:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Are you aware that this very high trust permission can cause great damage if it's improperly used? Codename Noreste 🤔 La Suma 17:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am aware of this! Yes Justman10000 (talk) 17:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So, voting by the two stewards and by some users is required. If the votes are successful, then it goes to the system administrator to grant the permission or not. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 17:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Voting

Support

Oppose

  •  Weak Oppose Hi, thanks for volunteering. Unfortunately, I must weakly oppose your request at this time due to lack of necessary trust or track record. I do not think you would take the site down, abuse your power in some other way, or go inactive suddenly, but you do not hold Stewardship here or administratorship elsewhere, and you don't have that long of a track record, so I cannot be sure. Consider this a moral support of sorts; I have no objection to another run in the medium-term future. Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Like I said, I'd be happy to get a chance, and if you don't think I would abuse my power (which I wouldn't too), then what's the problem? Justman10000 (talk) 17:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    This permission is very powerful, can lock the database and have access to PHP, SSH, Git, and Github and even Apache and the server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 17:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    System administratorship is a very powerful position. I prefer to err on the side of caution. Can you describe your previous experience with FiveM and Minecraft servers? Do you have PHP experience? Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    For the networks, I installed and configured web applications and Minecraft plugins Justman10000 (talk) 17:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  •  Oppose Hi, nice that you signed up and want to get more involved, I can only appreciate that. But unfortunately, here and for this reason, I want to cast my dissenting vote. I am very reluctant to assign this role to someone I don't know well. Anyway, are you already a system administrator, steward or admin on a major wiki project somewhere? On a Wikimedia, Miraheze or other large wikifarm. On these wikis, you become one only after a thorough review and vote. To me, that is a hard requirement for a system administrator. SA has the unlimited power to shut down an entire wiki (database lock and unlock) block anyone and deny or grant anyone user rights. Therefore, this right can only be granted to highly trusted users. Of course, this is separate from the technical side, which is also important. Drummingman (talk) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  •  Strongly oppose It doesn't make much sense to give a user who has been a member for less than 1 month a higher level of authority than even the stewards such as the system administrator. You need to have 3 or more months of activity history. LisafBia (talk) 18:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Nowhere does it say anything about that... So... And is it so difficult to give someone a chance? And is it so difficult to give someone a chance? It's not really motivating Justman10000 (talk) 18:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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