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:'''Note:''' I have reblocked the user to protect the site while awaiting your response. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 11:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
:'''Note:''' I have reblocked the user to protect the site while awaiting your response. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 11:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
:[[User:Q8j|Q8j]], thanks for the message. I realized that afterward, and ''did'' post a note for MacFan4000 (and Drummingman) in the IRC channel, to see if either of them had any objections and, if so, I would indeed reblock. I will check the IRC channel and see if there have been comments. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 15:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
:[[User:Q8j|Q8j]], thanks for the message. I realized that afterward, and ''did'' post a note for MacFan4000 (and Drummingman) in the IRC channel, to see if either of them had any objections and, if so, I would indeed reblock. I will check the IRC channel and see if there have been comments. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 15:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
::A note in this case: I've decided to grant talk page access for appeal purposes as it has been 2 years. There is a very real probability of change, and TPA being disabled does not appear to be necessary to prevent further disruption. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:26, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
:::While I don’t oppose the idea of resorting TPA, I don’t want us to get into a pattern of “Unblock all of the LTAs just because they haven’t edited in awhile.” We have unblocked Piccidally, Talisumatefan, and now this. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:47, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
::::We're not unblocking all of the LTAs. If one doesn't give a satisfactory explanation? They remain blocked. CIR users, particularly where 2 years have passed with no apparent sockpuppetry, probably aren't LTAs locally, and TPAD isn't necessary to prevent disruption. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:14, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::I’m aware we aren’t unblocking all of the LTAs, just pointing out that this is the third LTA we’ve altered their block in the past 3 months. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:04, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::I wouldn't necessarily consider myself an LTA, if I'm being honest. Just a person who has made some very bad decisions on wikis and who strives to do better. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 19:16, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Yep. If a user is attempting to do better and does not sock, they are at most a CIR user, not an LTA, IMO. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:17, 10 July 2023 (UTC)


==Thank you==
==Thank you==
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:Yeah, I'll reach out to you Discord, if you prefer, before tomorrow morning (my time). [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:55, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'll reach out to you Discord, if you prefer, before tomorrow morning (my time). [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:55, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
::Are you available now? [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 20:19, 3 July 2023 (UTC)


==Bureaucrat rights in preventing disruption clarification==
==Bureaucrat rights in preventing disruption clarification==
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:I was also wondering the same thing, and I thank @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] for voicing those concerns. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:25, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
:I was also wondering the same thing, and I thank @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] for voicing those concerns. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:25, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
:[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], thank you for the question. I would say it isn't so much as a ''new'' guideline, but rather one which has not been used consistently on Test Wiki, which governs itself very similarly to Public Test Wiki. I would say it would be fine to interpret it as a [[rfc:2119|recommendation]]. Basically, the idea is to use [[w:WP:COMMONSENSE|common sense]]. Obvious spambots or vandalism only accounts would be fine to block indefinitely, but established [[w:WP:CIR|competency is required]] users, the recommended best practice would be to guide, follow it with a warning, then a short block (or block(s)) of between a few days to a few weeks. If a longer term or indefinite block is needed, it should be referred to Stewards. I thought it would be helpful to add the clarification since bureaucrats may have different judgment levels of what is appropriate. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 20:17, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
:[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], thank you for the question. I would say it isn't so much as a ''new'' guideline, but rather one which has not been used consistently on Test Wiki, which governs itself very similarly to Public Test Wiki. I would say it would be fine to interpret it as a [rfc:2119 recommendation]. Basically, the idea is to use [[w:WP:COMMONSENSE|common sense]]. Obvious spambots or vandalism only accounts would be fine to block indefinitely, but established [[w:WP:CIR|competency is required]] users, the recommended best practice would be to guide, follow it with a warning, then a short block (or block(s)) of between a few days to a few weeks. If a longer term or indefinite block is needed, it should be referred to Stewards. I thought it would be helpful to add the clarification since bureaucrats may have different judgment levels of what is appropriate. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 20:17, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

==A barnstar for you!==

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| style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" |You have been consistently civil, no matter the situation, even if it is extremely contentious. Here's your barnstar, you earned it. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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:{{Thank you}}! This is a nice barnstar. I don't know if I've received this one before, at least not on Test Wiki. :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 01:53, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
::{{done|No problem, you deserve it}}! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:59, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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