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The name of the userRightsManager gadget has changed, so some users may have the tick turned off. It may be necessary to re-enable it in the preferences. LisafBia (talk) 13:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Inactivity for AFAs

Should inactivity for AFAs be measured in regular terms, or should it be measured by the last time an abuse filter was modified by an AFA, or perhaps even the last time a filter was modified to use a restricted action or a restricted filter was modified? I'd like to know consensus on this before I go and modify the inactivity policy. Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:20, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would choose when the last time some AFA modified a regular abuse filter (without restricted actions). Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 02:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We don't have a bot for it yet? That checks for inactivity? Justman10000 (talk) 16:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nope. It's a manual process. Justarandomamerican (talk) 16:12, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Would be at least 3 months at least I can suggest. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 12:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request for System administratorship

Inactivity bot

Think about writing one! Should they revoke the permissions directly, or just notify? Justman10000 (talk) 16:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'd say it should send notifications to the community portal at first, and upon demonstrating it works, have it make rights temporary when the user will be considered inactive in 2 weeks. Justarandomamerican (talk) 16:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Systemadminstrator... or steward?

When would one be willing to accept me as a system administrator? I would be extremely unhappy to have to work for many months, a year or more! And would I have to become a steward first? Or could I be nominated and elected directly as a system administrator! Actually, the work itself says something about someone! Not the duration of the work Justman10000 (talk) 18:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is probably due to your account age, and please do not take this for granted, but your suitability to those high-trust roles (non-test roles) are what might concern me. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 18:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Why? I mean, rejecting someone just because their account is too young... Actions are what define one, not the duration of one's collaboration Justman10000 (talk) 18:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
System administrators can shut down the wiki at any time they please. They can also make decisions such as amending the privacy policy or blocking entire IP addresses from even being able to access the site. For this reason, the community wants to see quality and quantity of contributions from prospective system administrators. The same goes for prospective members of any non-test role that can make major decisions, such as AFAs and Stewards. Justarandomamerican (talk) 19:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And how old should an account be? Justman10000 (talk) 18:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Anywhere between 8 months to a year at least. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 19:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
How did you come up with exactly 8? Could be only 6 or 5 too Justman10000 (talk) 22:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So, how about this, I recommend you have between 7 and 12 months of activity at least and know how to use PHP, Git, and SSH, and also recommend getting a Github account and sign in to it. If you don't have a Github account, you can register a Github account. I would also recommend to be active on the Wiki and be an administrator or bureaucrat and suggest for the best experience before system administrator, I would at least recommend requesting Steward permissions and also get a server from Linux Debian, MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, or SQLite and have an understanding of it. To be a Steward you can have at least 5 or 6 months of activity at least. I suggest you also have an understanding of Apache HTTP Server. Please read and heed any advice you need. Thanks. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 14:45, 9 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As I said, I've been working with Linux Debian for over 4 years! So I'm already familiar with everything mentioned! I've also had a GitHub account for years!
And do I have to wait the 7-12 months AFTER my successful election as a steward, or just add the rest from the 4-5 months after the steward election? Justman10000 (talk) 15:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm sorry, you just joined late. In addition, I should say that you are too new there for Steward or System Administrator privileges. However, according to ChatGPT:
"Yes, MediaWiki supports Linux Debian Server. MediaWiki, the software that powers Wikipedia, is designed to run on a variety of operating systems, including Linux. Debian, a popular Linux distribution, is well-suited for running MediaWiki due to its stability, security, and robust package management system."
It is OK to use Linux Debian there on MediaWiki, but learn how to use Git, PHP, and SSH and also be active on this wiki. Please read and heed any advice. Thanks. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 20:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I know that MediaWiki also runs on Linux Debian? Huh? You indicated yourself that test wiki runs on a Linux Debian machine? And as I said, I already understand all mentioned Justman10000 (talk) 06:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, yep. Kinda so, according to ChatGPT. Just wait a few months and be active enough to become system administrator. You know? I'm not a system administrator either! Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 20:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
But I am sorry, Justman10000, this is a high trust role. Try again next time... Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 20:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't want to say that, but somehow... you're playing yourself up Justman10000 (talk) 08:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's real, not fake. And for true, only 1 is currently system administrator. However, this makes no flexibility for a regular steward to be flexible with a user that jumped from being a non-steward to a system administrator. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 12:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'd like to clarify that this is a test wiki, which means that anyone can experiment with MediaWiki functionality here. Within this space, users can request various permissions except for sys admin and steward, specifically for testing purposes. Sys admin and steward rights are crucial for the smooth operation of this wiki and are not intended for testing purposes. Steward rights are granted to users who invest significant time here, and the community trusts their judgment for sensitive actions. Similarly, the system admin right is not given out for testing; it's essential for maintaining the wiki's smooth functioning. At the moment, we have one sys admin diligently fulfilling their duties. Should the need arise, the community or founder can nominate trusted and technically proficient users to take up the sys admin role. I hope this clarifies things. DR (talk) 13:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, this is correct, as gaining sysop and bureaucrat rights and being active for the wiki is the minimum for Steward or System Administrator rights, with additional System Administrators requiring know how to use PHP, Git, SSH, recommended MySQL, MariaDB, Linux Debian, SQLite, PostgreSQL, Apache, Github, and Phabricator and gaining Steward rights. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 13:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nothing I didn't already know Justman10000 (talk) 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What does that have to do with my comment? Justman10000 (talk) 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Involving the user rights for you. Tailsultimatefan3891 talkcontribs 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Justman10000: I would like you to respond and reply here. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 15:45, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I still have no idea what you're talking about Justman10000 (talk) 16:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nominating Drummingman for system adminship

Wiki changes to propose upcoming

In the next few years, I will post a bulk inserting of wiki changes here on the community portal. Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 00:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help to make an icon

Can anyone make a user icon for system administrator? As I am not good in that stuff and I need the icon to be added to the newsletters, I'm pinging @Codename Noreste as he previously updated some icons The AP (talk) 14:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

We could make it together. So what do we think? Tailsultimatefan3891 talklogscontribs 15:41, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
GIMP or Inkspace can be very useful for this kind of work. LisafBia (talk) 15:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]