Editing User talk:Q8j

==Sandbox==
Did you want your sandbox deleted? [[User:BlackWidowMovie0|BlackWidowMovie0]] ([[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0|talk]]) 19:07, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
*No. --[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 19:10, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
==My request==
Hello Q8j, will you please handle my request at request permissions. Thank you! [[User:Hulged|<b style="color:coral;font-variant:small-caps">Hulged</b>]] ([[User talk:Hulged|talk]])  07:36, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
:This is now {{Done}}. [[User:Harpsicorder|Harpsicorder]] ([[User talk:Harpsicorder|talk]]) 11:09, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

== Permission Request ==

hello Q8J Please always Update the [[MediaWiki:Gadget-markadmins.json|gadget]] after giving permissions. {{thank you}} --[[User:Sakura emad|🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 07:35, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
*{{Comment}} Noted. Thanks.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 04:54, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

== Admin rights removed per [[Test Wiki:Inactivity policy]] ==

Hello,

Your admin rights have been removed in accordance with the [[Test Wiki:Inactivity policy|inactivity policy]]. If you would like them back, feel free to request them [[Test Wiki:Request Permissions|here]].

Cheers, [[User:Hellk77|Hellk77]] ([[User talk:Hellk77|talk]]) 02:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
*@[[User:Hellk77|Hellk77]]; I deleted my own sandbox in [[Special:Redirect/logid/29239|2022-01-23T20:22:45]]. Could you recheck it, please?[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 08:05, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
*: OK, sorry for that. I will re-grant. [[User:Hellk77|Hellk77]] ([[User talk:Hellk77|talk]]) 15:24, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
*: {{done}}, sorry for the lapse in judgement. [[User:Hellk77|Hellk77]] ([[User talk:Hellk77|talk]]) 15:25, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

== Input needed. ==

Hi, Q8j.

Please can you give your input regarding the situation over at [[Special:Diff/21130|RFP]]?

Regards,
[[User:Sav|Tray]] ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Message me</span>]]) 19:04, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
*I've commented accordingly([[Special:Diff/21142|Diff]]). Thank you.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 05:35, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

== Open Proxy question ==

Hi, I saw you blocked an IP as an open proxy. Hiw did you determine that it was a proxy and why are they not allowed here? (I know the IP was vandalizing, I was just wondering why open proxies in general aren't allowed here) [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 18:27, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

i think it sent nonsense, so i fix it block .--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 23:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

:It did, but Q8j also said it was an open proxy. I've seen that term used in blocks on Wikimedia, but I don't know what open proxies are, how to find them or why they're bad. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 23:37, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
::[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_proxy] find it Search open proxy list and vpngate.--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 23:46, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
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*They are blocked by Steward.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 00:47, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

== About my admin privileges ==

Hi, I see you removed my admin privileges for the reason that I was removing a steward's block. I intended to restore the main block once I was done with my testing, I was just experimenting with different block settings. Can you please give me my admin privileges back please? [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 15:20, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
*I don't care whether it's intentionally or not. As a fact, you (effectively) removed steward's block after warning.
**To be honest, I don't believe you didn't intend to remove that block. But that's not the reason for rights revocation.
*I've told you not to test with that block and you replied "[[Special:Diff/22068|I'll just refrain from testing blocks until May 15.]]"
*I'll re-grant your admin rights 2days(48 hours) later from this moment unless steward decides not to do so.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 16:08, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
:Okay, I understand. I'll be more careful with my privileges from now on once I get them back. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 16:13, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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*Seiyena has been (Sitewide) blocked for 3 weeks by MacFan4000.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 23:27, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

== i will not abuse my bot. ==

Bot questions should be sent to this account's talk page, not to [[User:想舞花]],thx.--[[User:S871|S871]] ([[User talk:S871|talk]]) 16:42, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
*User:想舞花 is the owner of [[User:S871bot]], isn't it?--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 16:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
:I created an account to prevent being impersonated, if you have any questions about the bot, please send a message to S871.--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 16:50, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
我的意思是：主账号的讨论页不回答任何关于机器人的问题，如果你有问题，请联系[[User:S871]]，谢谢！--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 16:58, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
:bot account question Should sent to this account, [[User:想舞花]] Not the main account of the bot.--[[User:S871|S871]] ([[User talk:S871|talk]]) 17:23, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
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*They are blocked by Steward.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 15:33, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
== about bot. ==

my bot account has been hacked, i go to special:PasswordReset reset my password , so my main account say:Situation resolved --[[User:S871|S871]] ([[User talk:S871|talk]]) 18:32, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
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*They are blocked by Steward.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 15:33, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
== You should stop lying ==

--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 18:43, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
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*They are blocked by Steward.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 15:33, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
== Remove your right. ==

I take revenge on you because I don't like you.--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 18:49, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
:Revenge isn't the way to go here, 想舞花. Please restore the rights and maybe you two can talk it out. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 18:52, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
: I Know.--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 18:58, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
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*想舞花 is blocked by Steward.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 15:33, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

== [[User:Matttest]] ==

Hello, Q8j.

Your block towards [[User:Matttest]] was unjustified and quite frankly, disrespectful. You had abused your power in doing said block. Can you please explain how they were "'''clearly not here to test'''" as you stated in the block reason? Regards. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 07:39, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
*I think your action was "unjustified".
**You opposed [[Test_Wiki:Community_portal#Stewardship_request_(LisafBia)|LisafBia's stewardship]], and my decision is based on their behavior on that RFP, so you are "[[:w:WP:INVOLVED|involved]] admin".
**Matttest send notification to MacFan4000 and I, myself, said [[Special:Diff/23997|"I'll leave it to them"(MacFan4000)]]. But only 3 hours later, you unblocked them without waiting stewards' decision.
*I can't quite understand that you don't think "they are not here to test tool". To avoid [[:w:WP:WW|wheel war]], I won't revert your action. If you think I "had abused your power", feel free to ask stewards to remove my rights.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 12:30, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
::What behavior in the RFP made you think they were here to [[w:WP:NOTHERE|be purely disruptive]]? (This isn't a rhetorical question, I am genuinely asking.)  [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 12:47, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
::*Making comment(especially negative one) and doing nothing else, itself. Many user's first edit is to request right. As a fact, there are approximately 20 BCs and almost all of them's first edit is to request permission at RFP, introduce themselves on UserPage, or some test on sandbox. In the other word, directly or indirectly, their first edit is to test tool. Though I've been BC for long time and handled many RFP(for admin or BC), I rarely see newbie come to Community Portal and comment to Stewardship request. For the record, I said "not here to test", I didn't say "disruptive".--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 13:12, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
::::Whilst this block was made in good faith, I just cannot see any policy grounded reason behind it. It's suspicious for sure, a new user coming on to the Community Portal as their first edit, especially to make a comment on an RfS, but, I would either consult with a steward and ask for a CU, especially with recent impersonation, or have a consensus based discussion with the community on the Community portal. I was thinking you were doing a NOTHERE (account created purely to disrupt) block, with slightly different wording, sorry. --[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:19, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::Honestly, I can't agree with your opinion. But, as far as I'm not inclined to revert Sav's action, I don't think arguing with you is meaningful. Still I'm grateful to you for stating your opinion as third person.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 13:39, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
{{outdent|6}} Q8j, let me make this clear by posting what was said by said user on the Community Portal.
* '''In what situation will you use the CheckUser tools? What's the purpose of CheckUser? --Matttest'''
* '''With the bureaucrat rights, you can already execute lpts of non-test actions. Which exact areas are you going to help out as a steward? --Matttest'''
:::::: How are any of these a "negative comment"? I would like to know what this user did wrong to warrant a block, as in my opinion, this was done irrationally and not in good faith as what {{ping|Justarandomamerican}} said.[[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 14:46, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::::I’ve already made my position very clear and there’s nothing for me to say anymore. Especially, since you think my block was "not in good faith", I think discussion would be completely meaningless.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 14:55, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::::To avoid confusion, I'm making my position clear again(Most likely, this would be the last of my statement regarding this matter.)
:::::::*When I blocked them, I believed they should be blocked. And I still do. Thus, '''I disagree with unblocking'''. But, it(unblocking) is already done. So I don't revert it.
:::::::**I don't revert it for 2 reasons. First, as I said, to avoid wheel war. Second, though I still believe they should be blocked, I don't insist.
:::::::*As for steward, they '''may''' reblock the account again. Or they may endorse unblocking. Or they may do nothing. In second case, it means they conclude my action is inappropriate. They may decide to revoke my permission. In any case, my position is, "so be it". If owner of this wiki decide to accept Matttest or reject me, I don't have right to object that.
:::::::*Reasons for my action is already stated clearly and I won't do that again. It's meaningless.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 15:49, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
{{Outdent|:::::::}} Though behaviourally speaking, this block was a bit weak and best left for a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]], [[User:Q8j|Q8j]]'s "gut instinct" ended up being correct in this case. '''Matttest''' has been confirmed as a 100% technical match to the recent impersonation only and vandalism only accounts, and has been CheckUser blocked indefinitely. Note this had concurrence from both Stewards. Thank you, too, to [[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] for their diligence in reporting the impersonation only accounts. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 22:33, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
:<del>{{Ping|Dmehus}} Hello! Matttest is user from Miraheze, or impostor for this user? [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 12:40, 3 August 2022 (UTC)</del>
::{{Ping|Q8j}} - Hello! I wish to apologise for not taking your side when it came to the block of Matttest. You did very well with sniffing out the suspicious contributions and for that, I applaud you. Once again, I am sincerely sorry, keep up the great work. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 17:59, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Sav}} Thank you for your understanding! 
:::As all of you said, though Matttest was sockpuppeter, my actions were '''not''' 100% right. I could have leave it to stewards, but I didn't. It's because I wanted to avoid it affect ongoing voting, but I could have, for example, set partial block for Community Portal only and ask stewards to endorse, expand blocking.
:::When I blocked the account in question, I was calm. But after you, whom I trust, removed the block and objected that, I was lack of calmness. For that, I owe you an apology as well. I'm sad to see you thought my action was "not in good faith", but it's partly my fault.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 08:56, 4 August 2022 (UTC)