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==Reverts== | ==Reverts== | ||
Hello Justa, I want to express my gratitude for addressing the un-discussed merges. I was somewhat puzzled by these actions, as there hadn't been any prior communication regarding them. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 13:53, 5 October 2023 (UTC) | Hello Justa, I want to express my gratitude for addressing the un-discussed merges. I was somewhat puzzled by these actions, as there hadn't been any prior communication regarding them. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 13:53, 5 October 2023 (UTC) | ||
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==A barnstar for you!== | ==A barnstar for you!== | ||
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::::::Feel free to revert to status quo pending I and Drummingman discussing the matter. Thanks, [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC) | ::::::Feel free to revert to status quo pending I and Drummingman discussing the matter. Thanks, [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC) | ||
:::::::I'll hold off doing anything until you discuss. Thanks, [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC) | :::::::I'll hold off doing anything until you discuss. Thanks, [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC) | ||
==[[Abuse filter test]]== | ==[[Abuse filter test]]== | ||
I noticed you are trying to test filter 118 (Adding emails to pages); however, users with sysop rights are exempted. Feel free to edit it to test if it works and modifications if desired, and/or restore the previous state of the filter when done. Thank you! – [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 17:50, 26 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
I noticed you are trying to test filter 118 (Adding emails to pages); however, users with sysop rights are exempted. Feel free to edit it to test if it works and modifications if desired, and/or restore the previous state of the filter when done. Thank you! – [[User: | |||
:Thanks, 64andtim! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:56, 26 January 2024 (UTC) | :Thanks, 64andtim! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:56, 26 January 2024 (UTC) | ||
==Suppression log== | ==Suppression log== | ||
Can you check the suppression log and verify the actions I just took were correct. TY! [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC) | Can you check the suppression log and verify the actions I just took were correct. TY! [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC) | ||
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==Example account hide== | ==Example account hide== | ||
What is your opinion on hiding the example account (suppress block) so innocent users don't accidentally block & unblock it. We could also rename it to something random, hide it, and then create a new example account with a random password. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | What is your opinion on hiding the example account (suppress block) so innocent users don't accidentally block & unblock it. We could also rename it to something random, hide it, and then create a new example account with a random password. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | ||
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::To avoid any confusion at all, I'd rename to something like "Vanished user [random numbers here]" and hide the account. I've seen some of the things people have done in the past with it and hiding it will not allow anyone who remembers the password to login. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:09, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | ::To avoid any confusion at all, I'd rename to something like "Vanished user [random numbers here]" and hide the account. I've seen some of the things people have done in the past with it and hiding it will not allow anyone who remembers the password to login. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:09, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | ||
:::Transparency vs disruption prevented is the most important thing to balance when hiding an account. Me personally, I don't think it's worth it. {{ping|Drummingman}} Do you have a different take on this? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | :::Transparency vs disruption prevented is the most important thing to balance when hiding an account. Me personally, I don't think it's worth it. {{ping|Drummingman}} Do you have a different take on this? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | ||
::::I think community members would understand the desire to not have the account public. I can point to countless (now suppressed) diffs of harassment, threats, and slurs coming from the account. I can assure you that this is a net positive. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::Also, I would be curious to see how you define "serious vandalism". Racials slurs, in my opinion, meet that standard. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:39, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::I think revision deletion is an adequate alternative in cases where there is no identifiable target, human or organization, and it isn't without administrative value (which specific examples of disruption by long-term disruptive editors would not meet). [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:45, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::::With the addition of the long term abuse pages, I don't think keeping that diff public serves any additional administrative value. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 02:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Let's figure out the difference between our definitions. Me personally, it is vandalism where regular administrative tools would be insufficient to protect the community, such as repetitive slurs, attack names, etc. What is yours? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:53, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::I'd say anything that is extremely offensive to certain groups of people, including slurs, threats of harm, and other personal attacks that serve no administrative value to help prevent future attacks. This is why I only suppressed those with the one racial slur and not others like "Hi r____d". [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 11:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::To me, the priority needs to be balancing transparency against protection of the community. Completely suppressing a single racial slur (especially without a target) doesn't really protect any administrator.. My opinion is that serious vandalism should be suppressed only when it is necessary to protect the community. Thanks for the reply, and to be clear, certain things like sexually explicit/obscene material should be suppressed despite not having a clear target, due to their nature.[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:40, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::Noted, thanks. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:50, 7 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::::And yes: I jumped the gun whilst asking for community resolution. I'll take this and every dispute a bit slower next time. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 03:37, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::<del>Honestly, we need new, community-defined suppression criteria to get rid of the constant confusion. I have proposed this on the community portal. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)</del> | |||
:::::::Should we also have info about revision deleting content prior to oversight? Obviously when doing this type of stuff, you should be discreet when doing that. – [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 03:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Though we don't need community defined criteria at the moment, we should have some information about revision deletion prior to suppression, yes. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:06, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::+1 [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 14:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::As far as I am concerned, no further actions are necessary. Having the username suppressed is unnecessary and too heavy, also because the password has been suppressed by me before. And with the new account, the password is secret, right? And it doesn't appear on onwiki either. Because that brought the problems we had seen. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 16:06, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::The password to the ''new'' example account is hidden, yes. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:50, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::I agree with that. The password has been suppressed, and anyone logging in and editing will be met with a block message. Anyone ''removing the block to use the former example account'' would be blocked/warned quickly. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
==Piccadilly== | |||
Just making sure you are aware that Piccadilly violated their unblock conditions just last week by editing while logged out using an IP. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:24, 11 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:But I am absolutely willing to help them re-integrate into the community if that is what the stewards think is best. Not saying the action was incorrect in any way. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:27, 11 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I am certainly aware. However, the consensus is that she may be unblocked regardless, as per Dmehus, my, and Drummingman's thoughts on the matter. She is apologetic for block evasion, and it didn't cause that much disruption in terms of what she normally does. Thank you for the message. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:32, 11 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Glad to hear, happy to see that she made a good appeal. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
==Temp Admin Rights== | |||
I noticed that when you gave me admin rights here, you set them to expire in a week. What should I do when that time is up? I was just wondering whether I'd need to pass another quiz to get them again. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 02:44, 18 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I've made them indefinite. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:47, 18 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Okay, thanks. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 02:48, 18 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
==Alt rename== | |||
And could you rename my alt account, Username 2, to just 'Username'? Thanks, [[User:Saint|Saint]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 02:31, 19 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
:{{done}}. [[User:Saint|Saint]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 19:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
==publictestwiki vandal issue== | |||
Take a look at https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/Special:Undelete?target=Talk%3ATranslating_test%2Ffi (for the same reason, I have activated a Guidance filter over there). [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 18:00, 12 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
==Question== | |||
are my gadgets good? | |||
and their code?[[User:DodoMan|Rafdodo]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 15:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
==Self trout and on behalf of the steward-team== | |||
For accidentally granting CheckUser permissions to an alternate account of Rafdodo, I have slapped myself with a wet trout. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 12:39, 1 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
:[[File:Rainbow trout transparent.png|thumb|Trouted for granting CheckUser permissions to an alternate account ]] Can happen, fortunately it was not used by him, I see. On behalf of the steward-team: the matching [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=45180 trout]. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 14:03, 1 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
::No worries at all Justa, we all have "those" days. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 14:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::On behalf of myself, you are forgiven. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 01:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC) | |||