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== Can my name be changed please? ==
== Can my name be changed please? ==


I'd like my name here to be changed to Seiyena please. Thank you! [[User:Fiona|Fiona]] ([[User talk:Fiona|talk]]) 01:55, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
I'd like my name here to be changed to Seiyena please. Thank you! [[User:Piccadilly|Fiona]] ([[User talk:Piccadilly|talk]]) 01:55, 3 May 2021 (UTC)


Can this be done? I like the name Seiyena more than Fiona because it seems more unique. [[User:Fiona|Fiona]] ([[User talk:Fiona|talk]]) 20:08, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Can this be done? I like the name Seiyena more than Fiona because it seems more unique. [[User:Piccadilly|Fiona]] ([[User talk:Piccadilly|talk]]) 20:08, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
: {{Done}} [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 17:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
: {{Done}} [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 17:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)


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== CheckUser request ==
== CheckUser request ==


[[User:Seiyena]] is  
[[User:Piccadilly]] is  
suspected sockpuppet of [[User:Bugambilia]]([https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/User:Agunomu] [[Special:Diff/19566]]), thanks! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 10:34, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
suspected sockpuppet of [[User:Bugambilia]]([https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/User:Agunomu] [[Special:Diff/19566]]), thanks! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 10:34, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
:CheckUser shows no connection to other accounts. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 01:47, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
:CheckUser shows no connection to other accounts. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 01:47, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, this is Pavlov2, unfortunately, I forgot the password of the previous account. Please desysop it and lock that user. Thanks a lot[[User:Pavlov2~alternative|Pavlov2~alternative]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2~alternative|talk]]) 16:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi, this is Pavlov2, unfortunately, I forgot the password of the previous account. Please desysop it and lock that user. Thanks a lot[[User:Pavlov2~alternative|Pavlov2~alternative]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2~alternative|talk]]) 16:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)


I don't think a total lock is possible but I can desysop the account and block it for you. [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[User talk:Seiyena|talk]]) 16:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
I don't think a total lock is possible but I can desysop the account and block it for you. [[User:Piccadilly|Seiyena]] ([[User talk:Piccadilly|talk]]) 16:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)


{{ping|Seiyena}} Thanks a lot[[User:Pavlov2~alternative|Pavlov2~alternative]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2~alternative|talk]]) 17:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
{{ping|Piccadilly}} Thanks a lot[[User:Pavlov2~alternative|Pavlov2~alternative]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2~alternative|talk]]) 17:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Pavlov2~alternative}} You can request that your old account be renamed so that you can retrieve your old username. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 17:38, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Pavlov2~alternative}} You can request that your old account be renamed so that you can retrieve your old username. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 17:38, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|AlPaD}} thanks a lot, Could I request to change to my old name?[[User:Pavlov2~alternative|Pavlov2~alternative]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2~alternative|talk]]) 17:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
:{{Ping|AlPaD}} thanks a lot, Could I request to change to my old name?[[User:Pavlov2~alternative|Pavlov2~alternative]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2~alternative|talk]]) 17:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
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:''The following discussion is closed. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it</b>. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.''
:''The following discussion is closed. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it</b>. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.''
::The outcome here is that, yes, [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]]'s behaviour was indeed inappropriate, and the racially insensitive and homophobic comments also inappropriate, [[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]]'s [[Special:Redirect/logid/30479|block]] was also inappropriate for a few reasons. Firstly, as it was quite clear at [[Test Wiki:Request permissions]] that this was a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]-managed user conduct case, the block was inappropriate. Secondly, administrators here are, fundamentally, non-test administrators. Blocking open proxies, deleting spam, or reverting vandalism is fine, but serious user conduct issues [[rfc:2119|'''must''']] be left to Stewards, unless they've explicitly delegated certain aspects (i.e., my saying that <code>[[Test Wiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]]</code> could be revoked if the conditions were breached, for example). Finally, and philosophically, part of developing good [[Test Wiki:Administrators|administrator]] skills beyond technical capability is developing the diplomatic skills and engaging with users to think of other, creative and, crucially, long-term solutions that are at least somewhat amenable to all. I ''had'' meant to ask [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] to import the abuse filter from [[mhtest:|Public Test Wiki]], but my other responsibilities precluded that until now, so I ''do'' take that responsibility for not having done that sooner. Nevertheless, this is the solution I believe is the best. If, after a month or so (from now), it's clear Seiyena needs another time away from Test Wiki, I will make that call. Nevertheless, [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]], to be clear, you ''can'' curse, though I encourage you ''not'' to. What you '''cannot''' do is make racist, racially insensitive, xenophobic, or homophobic comments. Thus, [[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]]'s rights revocation is {{Done|endorsed}} by this [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]. You may re-apply for administrator after a minimum of 5-7 days, if a bureaucrat is satisfied with your good edits and log actions. You may then re-apply for bureaucrat on or after May 1st, again under the same terms. I have added several minor user groups, with a particular emphasis on <code>researcher</code>, which [[rfc:2119|''should'']] allow you review your revision deleted [[Special:DeletedContributions/Seiyena|contributions]] and log actions, to help you understand what you '''cannot''' do here and make good edits. Together with [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]]'s abuse filter, hopefully this should guide you to constructive editing here. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 03:50, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
::The outcome here is that, yes, [[User:Piccadilly|Seiyena]]'s behaviour was indeed inappropriate, and the racially insensitive and homophobic comments also inappropriate, [[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]]'s [[Special:Redirect/logid/30479|block]] was also inappropriate for a few reasons. Firstly, as it was quite clear at [[Test Wiki:Request permissions]] that this was a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]-managed user conduct case, the block was inappropriate. Secondly, administrators here are, fundamentally, non-test administrators. Blocking open proxies, deleting spam, or reverting vandalism is fine, but serious user conduct issues [[rfc:2119|'''must''']] be left to Stewards, unless they've explicitly delegated certain aspects (i.e., my saying that <code>[[Test Wiki:Bureaucrats|bureaucrat]]</code> could be revoked if the conditions were breached, for example). Finally, and philosophically, part of developing good [[Test Wiki:Administrators|administrator]] skills beyond technical capability is developing the diplomatic skills and engaging with users to think of other, creative and, crucially, long-term solutions that are at least somewhat amenable to all. I ''had'' meant to ask [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] to import the abuse filter from [[mhtest:|Public Test Wiki]], but my other responsibilities precluded that until now, so I ''do'' take that responsibility for not having done that sooner. Nevertheless, this is the solution I believe is the best. If, after a month or so (from now), it's clear Seiyena needs another time away from Test Wiki, I will make that call. Nevertheless, [[User:Piccadilly|Seiyena]], to be clear, you ''can'' curse, though I encourage you ''not'' to. What you '''cannot''' do is make racist, racially insensitive, xenophobic, or homophobic comments. Thus, [[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]]'s rights revocation is {{Done|endorsed}} by this [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]. You may re-apply for administrator after a minimum of 5-7 days, if a bureaucrat is satisfied with your good edits and log actions. You may then re-apply for bureaucrat on or after May 1st, again under the same terms. I have added several minor user groups, with a particular emphasis on <code>researcher</code>, which [[rfc:2119|''should'']] allow you review your revision deleted [[Special:DeletedContributions/Piccadilly|contributions]] and log actions, to help you understand what you '''cannot''' do here and make good edits. Together with [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]]'s abuse filter, hopefully this should guide you to constructive editing here. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 03:50, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
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P.S: Sorry for the translation.
P.S: Sorry for the translation.
[[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]] ([[User talk:Kazrok4545|talk]]) 13:19, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
[[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]] ([[User talk:Kazrok4545|talk]]) 13:19, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
:They've asked for the following statement to be copied from [[User talk:Seiyena|their talk page]]: <pre>I realize that my edits were very wrong and inexcusable, and I am very sorry for putting such bad things here. I realize that at least a temporary block is warranted in this case, but if at all possible, could my current block be set to expire automatically, after which I can have one last chance to test admin and bureaucrat powers here?</pre> —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 14:44, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
:They've asked for the following statement to be copied from [[User talk:Piccadilly|their talk page]]: <pre>I realize that my edits were very wrong and inexcusable, and I am very sorry for putting such bad things here. I realize that at least a temporary block is warranted in this case, but if at all possible, could my current block be set to expire automatically, after which I can have one last chance to test admin and bureaucrat powers here?</pre> —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 14:44, 11 April 2022 (UTC)


:{{ping|U:Arcversin}} Thanks for the transfer! — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 14:59, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|U:Arcversin}} Thanks for the transfer! — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 14:59, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
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