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:{{Neutral}} - CU and SU practice for bureaucrats are optional, but I don't mind with CU and SU remain existent and not removed and steward having the CU and SU rights. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 23:47, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | :{{Neutral}} - CU and SU practice for bureaucrats are optional, but I don't mind with CU and SU remain existent and not removed and steward having the CU and SU rights. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 23:47, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
=== Possible close? === | ===Possible close?=== | ||
[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]], [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]], [[User:X|X]], [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]], [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], and [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]], I'm involved, and though I am fairly certain there would be no objections to me closing in this way, I thought I'd {{tl|ping}} you all here to receive your assent to this being closed as follows, as '''successful''' with '''<code>checkuser-log</code> added to the <code>[[Test Wiki:Stewards|steward]]</code>''' group and all other user groups remaining the same? [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 21:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]], [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]], [[User:X|X]], [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]], [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], and [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]], I'm involved, and though I am fairly certain there would be no objections to me closing in this way, I thought I'd {{tl|ping}} you all here to receive your assent to this being closed as follows, as '''successful''' with '''<code>checkuser-log</code> added to the <code>[[Test Wiki:Stewards|steward]]</code>''' group and all other user groups remaining the same? [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 21:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
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==== Support proposed close and involved closure ==== | :I'm confused. Why exactly would that be the only right added, given the fact that the only opposition to <code> suppression-log </code> was confusing anyways as a full opposition based on a partial opposition? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:55, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
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*I don’t see why suppression log cannot be added too, given that there was no opposition to that. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 21:54, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | *I don’t see why suppression log cannot be added too, given that there was no opposition to that. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 21:54, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
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== Add IPBE privilege == | ==Add IPBE privilege== | ||
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::Moot, as said by some participants, the <code>ipblock-exempt</code> user right is already contained with the <code>sysop</code> user group, which has no prerequisites other than a confirmation edit. That being said, there ''could'' be a benefit to moving this user right from the <code>sysop</code> group to the <code>bureaucrat</code> group and/or be a separate user group grantable by bureaucrats and stewards to trusted users. It would also aid in user restriction-restricted user management, but that can be a potential discussion for much later. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 21:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | ::Moot, as said by some participants, the <code>ipblock-exempt</code> user right is already contained with the <code>sysop</code> user group, which has no prerequisites other than a confirmation edit. That being said, there ''could'' be a benefit to moving this user right from the <code>sysop</code> group to the <code>bureaucrat</code> group and/or be a separate user group grantable by bureaucrats and stewards to trusted users. It would also aid in user restriction-restricted user management, but that can be a potential discussion for much later. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 21:23, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
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=== Nomination === | ===Nomination=== | ||
This is Tailsultimatefan3891. I'd like the wiki to have the IPBE (IP block exemption) privilege to Test Wiki. Unfortunately however, I can't do it immediately, as only system administrators can do it. The IPBE privilege can have the following right: | This is Tailsultimatefan3891. I'd like the wiki to have the IPBE (IP block exemption) privilege to Test Wiki. Unfortunately however, I can't do it immediately, as only system administrators can do it. The IPBE privilege can have the following right: | ||
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From, [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 18:35, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | From, [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 18:35, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
=== Support === | ===Support=== | ||
*{{Support}} Author request. It helps non-admins in the case of an IP block, auto-block, and/or range blocks. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 18:52, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | *{{Support}} Author request. It helps non-admins in the case of an IP block, auto-block, and/or range blocks. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 18:52, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
*{{support}} as some people won't be able to request rights if they have a blocked IP. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 10:44, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | *{{support}} as some people won't be able to request rights if they have a blocked IP. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 10:44, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
=== Oppose === | ===Oppose=== | ||
*{{oppose}} as sysops already have it, so no need for a separate group. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:37, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | *{{oppose}} as sysops already have it, so no need for a separate group. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:37, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
**But only in the case of an IP block, auto-block, and/or range blocks that anyone has logging to their user but not an admin. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 18:52, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | **But only in the case of an IP block, auto-block, and/or range blocks that anyone has logging to their user but not an admin. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 18:52, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
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**Just what I tell you above. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|T]] | [[Special:Contribs/Tailsultimatefan3891|C]] | [[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|UR]] | [[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|B]]) 12:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | **Just what I tell you above. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|T]] | [[Special:Contribs/Tailsultimatefan3891|C]] | [[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|UR]] | [[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|B]]) 12:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
=== Neutral === | ===Neutral=== | ||
=== Comments === | ===Comments=== | ||
*{{Comment}} I don't know if IPBE is very useful or not. While IPBE for admins is being redundant, it's not redundant for non-admins. But IPBE isn't totally useful because with <s> just 1 person voting {{Support}} (that was me) </s> 2 persons voting {{Support}} (that was Zippybonzo and me) and also 2 persons voting {{Oppose}} (that was Sav and X). By the way, it's unknown if it's very helpful, while leaning on not extremely useful. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 23:34, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | *{{Comment}} I don't know if IPBE is very useful or not. While IPBE for admins is being redundant, it's not redundant for non-admins. But IPBE isn't totally useful because with <s> just 1 person voting {{Support}} (that was me) </s> 2 persons voting {{Support}} (that was Zippybonzo and me) and also 2 persons voting {{Oppose}} (that was Sav and X). By the way, it's unknown if it's very helpful, while leaning on not extremely useful. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 23:34, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
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