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:{{ping|Pavlov2}}What?--[[User:千村狐免|<span style='font-weight:bold;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#990033;'>千<i>村</i>狐免</span>]][[User talk:千村狐免|<sup style='font-weight:bold;color:#000;'> msg</sup>]] 12:27, 2 October 2021 (UTC) | :{{ping|Pavlov2}}What?--[[User:千村狐免|<span style='font-weight:bold;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#990033;'>千<i>村</i>狐免</span>]][[User talk:千村狐免|<sup style='font-weight:bold;color:#000;'> msg</sup>]] 12:27, 2 October 2021 (UTC) | ||
:{{comment}}I don't think the administrator's authority should be restricted, even if it is the long-term abuse of meta-wiki or cross-wiki.--[[User:千村狐免|<span style='font-weight:bold;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#990033;'>千<i>村</i>狐免</span>]][[User talk:千村狐免|<sup style='font-weight:bold;color:#000;'> msg</sup>]] 12:40, 2 October 2021 (UTC) | :{{comment}}I don't think the administrator's authority should be restricted, even if it is the long-term abuse of meta-wiki or cross-wiki.--[[User:千村狐免|<span style='font-weight:bold;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#990033;'>千<i>村</i>狐免</span>]][[User talk:千村狐免|<sup style='font-weight:bold;color:#000;'> msg</sup>]] 12:40, 2 October 2021 (UTC) | ||
: discussion closed i withdraw.[[User:Sakura emad|🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 12:22, 11 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Request Desysopped for Kapol1234 and a | == Request Desysopped for Kapol1234 and a checkuser for sockpuppets == | ||
USER:Kapol1234 misused his administrator tools and blocked me wrongly said I'm using sockpuppets. But I can make a promise that these account such as Pavlov3 and MCC214 is definitely not controlled by me. Thus I came here to request for a desysopped for Kapol1234 and a check user between This account, Pavlov3, MCC214 and Kapol1234 himself.{{ping|MacFan4000}} | USER:Kapol1234 misused his administrator tools and blocked me wrongly said I'm using sockpuppets. But I can make a promise that these account such as Pavlov3 and MCC214 is definitely not controlled by me. Thus I came here to request for a desysopped for Kapol1234 and a check user between This account, Pavlov3, MCC214 and Kapol1234 himself.{{ping|MacFan4000}} | ||
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{{ping|Sakura emad}}[[User:Pavlov2|Pavlov2]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2|talk]]) 08:44, 11 October 2021 (UTC) | {{ping|Sakura emad}}[[User:Pavlov2|Pavlov2]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2|talk]]) 08:44, 11 October 2021 (UTC) | ||
These sockpuppets is not controlled by me,l think it is controlled by Pavlov2,because he had using sockpuppets before in Uncyclopedia,lf you check the sockpuppets and my account,please check Pavlov2 same.[[User:Kapol1234|Kapol1234]] ([[User talk:Kapol1234|talk]]) 09:38, 11 October 2021 (UTC) | These sockpuppets is not controlled by me , and l think it is controlled by Pavlov2 , because he had using sockpuppets before in Uncyclopedia , lf you check the sockpuppets and my account , please check Pavlov2 same.[[User:Kapol1234|Kapol1234]] ([[User talk:Kapol1234|talk]]) 09:38, 11 October 2021 (UTC){{ping|Sakura emad}}{{ping|MacFan4000}} {{unsigned|kapol1234| 09:38, 11 October 2021}} | ||
i have no technical abilities to check any user's information. [[User:Sakura emad|🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 13:01, 11 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
{{ping|Kapol1234}}You should participate in the steward election to obtain Check user rights.--[[User:千村狐免|<span style='font-weight:bold;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#990033;'>千<i>村</i>狐免</span>]][[User talk:千村狐免|<sup style='font-weight:bold;color:#000;'> msg</sup>]] 12:38, 12 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
This discussion is closed，because the proposal is invalid.--[[User:千村狐免|<span style='font-weight:bold;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#990033;'>千<i>村</i>狐免</span>]][[User talk:千村狐免|<sup style='font-weight:bold;color:#000;'> msg</sup>]] 12:46, 12 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
{{reply|千村狐免}}，perhaps not as you said. The Check user rights may be held by Kapol1234 but without check user and said they are my sockpuppets and blocked me may seem as a misuse of administrator tools. For example, a sockpuppet [[User:MCC214]] leaves an attack message even on my talk page.[[User:Pavlov2|Pavlov2]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2|talk]]) 00:11, 13 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
{{ping|Kapol1234}}{{ping|Pavlov2}}，Because I think this kind of proposal is disruptive, so I want to close this proposal,And I Think Those Sock puppets Can Duck. --[[User:千村狐免|<span style='font-weight:bold;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#990033;'>千<i>村</i>狐免</span>]][[User talk:千村狐免|<sup style='font-weight:bold;color:#000;'> msg</sup>]] 04:26, 13 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
{{ping|Pavlov2}}{{ping|千村狐免}}I repeat again, this sockpuppet is not held my me.[[User:Kapol1234|Kapol1234]] ([[User talk:Kapol1234|talk]]) 10:26, 13 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
{{ping|千村狐免}}Where can participate in the steward election to obtain Check user rights?[[User:Kapol1234|Kapol1234]] ([[User talk:Kapol1234|talk]]) 10:35, 13 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
{{ping|Kapol1234}} The CheckUser and Oversight permissions here can only be authorized by Stewards and the system administrator, so the proposal you want to be Checkuser is invalid.--[[User:千村狐免|<span style='font-weight:bold;font-family:"Lucida Console";color:#990033;'>千<i>村</i>狐免</span>]][[User talk:千村狐免|<sup style='font-weight:bold;color:#000;'> msg</sup>]] 09:27, 14 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Confirmed sockpuppets are blocked. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 15:49, 14 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
::Hello, {{ping|MacFan4000}} Pavlov3 and MCC214 are confirmed sockpuppets of Kapol1234? Thank you! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 17:37, 14 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::Yes CheckUser has confirmed that they are sockpuppets. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 19:29, 15 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::Thank you! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 05:13, 17 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
== CheckUser request == | |||
[[User:Seiyena]] is | |||
suspected sockpuppet of [[User:Bugambilia]]([https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/User:Agunomu] [[Special:Diff/19566]]), thanks! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 10:34, 22 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
:CheckUser shows no connection to other accounts. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 01:47, 24 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
::OK, thank you! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 18:48, 24 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Critical: Phabricator is down == | |||
{{ping|MacFan4000}} It appears as if Phabricator has stopped working. Trying to load it causes this error message to appear: <br/> [[file:Phabricator-Down-Example.jpeg|500px]] | |||
[[User:PorkchopGMX (on the go)|PorkchopGMX (on the go)]] ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX (on the go)|talk]]) 15:04, 1 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Yes I’m aware. It’s not compatible with PHP 8.1. I reported the issue and will likely revert to PHP 8.0 at some point. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 19:08, 1 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Rename request == | |||
Hi. Please change my username to Magogre. Thanks! [[User:Mazzaz|Mazzaz]] ([[User talk:Mazzaz|talk]]) 13:58, 7 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
:pinging {{ping| MacFan4000}} to complete the request. [[User:Sakura emad|🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 20:59, 9 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
::{{Done}} [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 23:31, 11 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Add <code>(interwiki)</code> user right to Bureaucrat == | |||
Right now, bureaucrats do not have the <code>(interwiki)</code> user right (which allows you to edit [[Special:Interwiki]]) but they can grant (and remove) themselves and others an extra user right group (Interwiki admin) to get around this restriction. This is obviously inconvenient, so I suggest we '''bundle the <code>(interwiki)</code> user right into bureaucrat, and remove it from steward'''. [[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]] ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX|talk]]) 01:54, 16 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
=== Support === | |||
*{{Support}} as proposer. [[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]] ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX|talk]]) 01:54, 16 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
*{{Support}} It's a good idea! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 12:46, 16 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
*{{support}} for now. However, some edits to special pages still need to be carefully checked.[[User:Pavlov2|Pavlov2]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2|talk]]) 18:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
*{{Support}} It would be great! [[User:C1K98V|<b style="color:#FF0000">''C1K98V''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:C1K98V|💬]] [[Special:Contribs/C1K98V|✒️]] [[Special:ListFiles/C1K98V|📂]])</sup> 06:08, 16 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
=== Oppose === | |||
* {{Oppose}} –[[User:CrazyFisherman|CrazyFisherman]] ([[User talk:CrazyFisherman|talk]]) 20:24, 16 December 2021 (UTC) Granting rights is exactly the purpose of the bureaucrat flag; too many rights directly for bureaucrats aren't necessary | |||
**That is true, however crats (indirectly) already have access to Interwiki through the interwiki admin user right. This proposal eliminates the need for crats to grant '''themselves''' a right to edit interwikis. [[User:PorkchopGMX (on the go)|PorkchopGMX (on the go)]] ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX (on the go)|talk]]) 20:47, 16 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
* '''Weak''' {{Oppose}}, as it's not really suited to bureaucrats. I suppose this could be added to the <code>sysop</code> toolkit. On the other hand, we may desire users have some higher level of competency. Not really sure what the best approach is here. On the one hand, this would reduce multiple hats being collected. On the other, I'm not certain adding to <code>sysop</code> is the best idea. One other idea might be to have only Stewards grant interwiki administrator? [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 22:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
*:I don't think interwiki needs to be restricted to stewards. Interwiki rights are much less important than import, delete, block, etc. rights. I proposed the right be moved into bureaucrat because that was technically the status quo and therefore it would be the least controversial move. [[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]] ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX|talk]]) 18:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
*::[[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]], it's not really related to the <code>bureaucrat</code> role, ''at all'', though. ''That'''s why I don't support it. For context, the reason why it's restricted to Stewards on Miraheze is because of the potential to have malicious sites bypass the Content Security Policy. So, it's not a completely innocuous right. In this respect, the <code>block</code> and <code>delete</code> user rights are much more innocuous than the <code>interwiki</code> user right; importing ''can'' have potential issues, so I'd probably say this would be on par with ''that'', or maybe slightly ''above'' even. Above it would be interface administrator. My preference would be to delete a lot of the unneeded user groups that are below the <code>sysop</code> group, and just have one <code>testgroup</code> and maybe <code>autopatrolled</code> and <code>confirmed</code>. The rest could probably be turfed. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 01:25, 16 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
=== Neutral/Abstain === | |||
: i remain neutral for now| however crats can grant themselves interwiki flag so i don't think it's neccessary; what do you mean by "removing it from steward"?. [[User:Sakura emad|🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 13:15, 25 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
::The <code>(interwiki)</code> user right is already included with steward, this proposal would add that right to bureaucrat and remove it from steward (as redundant). [[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]] ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX|talk]]) 18:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
=== General comments === | |||
== Requesting for import of templates Sockpuppet and Sockpuppeter == | |||
Recently some users were blocked due to their abusively using multiple accounts. To avoid these users being unblocked by other users who have sysop right wrongly, I'd like to import these two templates from Enwiki and come here to look for some advice | |||
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sockpuppet][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Sockpuppeteer]. | |||
The test page was created on my own sandbox, [[user:pavlov2/sandbox]], but seemed they didn't work correctly. | |||
[[User:Pavlov2|Pavlov2]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2|talk]]) 13:30, 8 January 2022 (UTC) | |||