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== CheckUser testing == | == CheckUser testing == | ||
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Currently, as shown in [[Special:ListGroupRights]], it seems that only bureaucrats may use the <code>checkuser-limited</code> permission. This permission allows checking oneself for the purpose of testing out the tool. It may be a good idea to grant this permission to administrators as administrators is the primary for-testing group here and it should not be necessary to request bureaucratship for testing. In addition, when it is only possible to check oneself there is very little capacity for damage (checking others will still be limited to Stewards). | Currently, as shown in [[Special:ListGroupRights]], it seems that only bureaucrats may use the <code>checkuser-limited</code> permission. This permission allows checking oneself for the purpose of testing out the tool. It may be a good idea to grant this permission to administrators as administrators is the primary for-testing group here and it should not be necessary to request bureaucratship for testing. In addition, when it is only possible to check oneself there is very little capacity for damage (checking others will still be limited to Stewards). | ||
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:Agree. You can only test checkuser on yourself. Making a phabricator task..... [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:59, 11 December 2020 (UTC) | :Agree. You can only test checkuser on yourself. Making a phabricator task..... [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:59, 11 December 2020 (UTC) | ||
::[https://phabricator.testwiki.wiki/T43 Phabricator task] [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:02, 11 December 2020 (UTC) | ::[https://phabricator.testwiki.wiki/T43 Phabricator task] [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:02, 11 December 2020 (UTC) | ||
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== [[User:CptViraj]] == | == [[User:CptViraj]] == | ||
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== Proposal : Remove SocialProfile == | == Proposal : Remove SocialProfile == | ||
{{Discussion top|{{Done}} [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 22:44, 6 March 2021 (UTC) | {{Discussion top|{{Done}} [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 22:44, 6 March 2021 (UTC)}} | ||
Does anyone even like it? I would certainly support it being removed [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 22:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC) | Does anyone even like it? I would certainly support it being removed [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 22:06, 9 January 2021 (UTC) | ||
:<s>I '''honestly don't care''' if it's removed. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 22:40, 9 January 2021 (UTC)</s> | :<s>I '''honestly don't care''' if it's removed. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 22:40, 9 January 2021 (UTC)</s> | ||
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*:Oh, sure, that's no problem, but to be clear, I just mean if they discovered open proxies in the course of a CheckUser from an abuse investigation, but if anonymous IPs are being used publicly on this wiki, any <code>sysop</code> could block. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 03:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC) | *:Oh, sure, that's no problem, but to be clear, I just mean if they discovered open proxies in the course of a CheckUser from an abuse investigation, but if anonymous IPs are being used publicly on this wiki, any <code>sysop</code> could block. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 03:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC) | ||
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== Proposal: Bureaucrat rights only for trusted users == | |||
'''Proposal:''' Bureaucrat rights are not given to every user 24 h after admin rights request, rather trusted users. With 'crat rights there are not really any extra testing possibilities but currently it isn't possible to protect pages so that only experienced/trusted users ('crats), who aren't stewards can edit them because everybody can get bureaucrat within 24-48 hours. Since <code>checkuser-limited</code> is also available to sysops, nearly all test features are also possible for admins. Also currently there is only one (1) <small>I only counted stewards, not interface admins</small> user who is active (made edits/log enries in the last 30 days) who has a right that is not given out to everybody. | |||
=== Support === | |||
*{{support}}. <span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #002366">[[User:ZhuofanWu|Zhuofan]] [[User_talk:ZhuofanWu|Wu]]</span><sup>Cien años de soledad</sup> 14:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
*{{support}} --[[User:Morneo06|Morneo06]] ([[User talk:Morneo06|talk]]) 12:05, 20 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
*{{Support}}. --[[User:Anton|Anton]] ([[User talk:Anton|talk]]) 14:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
=== Oppose === | |||
=== Neutral/Abstain === | |||
=== Comments === | |||
* How to identify "trusted user"? By edits or others?<span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #002366">[[User:ZhuofanWu|Zhuofan]] [[User_talk:ZhuofanWu|Wu]]</span><sup>Cien años de soledad</sup> 04:32, 11 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
'''Proposal:''' | |||
* Users need to have sysop rights for at least fourteen (14) days | |||
* Users need at least <code>XX</code> <sub>Suggestions are welcome</sub> edits | |||
** a significant number of the edits need to be constructive, not only testing edits | |||
* Users need to show, that they are familiar with the [[Test Wiki:Policy|Test Wiki policies]] and that they have made edits/log entries recently that show that the users is working constructively. | |||
::Seems well. How about 7 days+50 edits like zhwp`s autoconfirmed user? Besides, remember to sign using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. <span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #002366">[[User:ZhuofanWu|Zhuofan]] [[User_talk:ZhuofanWu|Wu]]</span><sup>Cien años de soledad</sup> 13:46, 12 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::Seems like a good time period and edit count. --[[User:Morneo06|Morneo06]] ([[User talk:Morneo06|talk]]) 19:47, 12 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
*Let`s start voting: Add following content to [[Test_Wiki:Bureaucrats]]. | |||
{{quotebox-2| | |||
{{fakeh2|Standard}} | |||
* Users need to have sysop rights for at least 7 days | |||
* Users need at least <code>50</code> edits | |||
*: a significant number of the edits need to be constructive, not only testing edits. | |||
* Users need to show, that they are familiar with the [[Test Wiki:Policy|Test Wiki policies]] and that they have made edits/log entries recently that show that the users is working constructively.}} | |||
<span style="text-shadow:0 1px 5px #002366">[[User:ZhuofanWu|Zhuofan]] [[User_talk:ZhuofanWu|Wu]]</span><sup>Cien años de soledad</sup> 14:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
::{{re|Morneo06}} and {{re|ZhuofanWu}}, so you are saying <code>'crat</code> flag should be granted only to those users who have been here for a while and have made a dozens of helpful contributions? Why is it necessary?–[[User:Olipino|Olipino]] ([[User talk:Olipino|talk]]) 12:42, 20 April 2021 (UTC) | |||