User talk:Piccadilly
My talk page archives: User talk:Piccadilly/Archive1 and User talk:Piccadilly/Archive2
Link to an essay I wrote about my wiki experiences: User:Piccadilly/Essay
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Unblock
As per consensus on the email list, your unblock request has been accepted. I have already blocked you from certain namespaces. To bureaucrats: You may block this user for the rest of the day and remove her rights if she violates standard practice and makes disruptive edits or violates the restrictions the community advised in the last unblock 3 times. Once she gains sysop: She is additionally not allowed to edit any abuse filters whatsoever, and may not unblock herself. Justarandomamerican (talk) 18:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Is there any restriction on when I can request sysop? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 18:32, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm putting an indefinite restriction on that for now, as we have not yet come to a consensus regarding your rights. Justarandomamerican (talk) 18:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- I have given her some minor rights like patroller so she can test without admin tools. This should be sufficient until the stewards make a decision. X (talk + contribs) 18:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Just as an additional reminder, you are to use this account only. Editing from an IP address or other account will result in additional sanctions at the discretion of the stewards. Thank you for understanding. X (talk + contribs) 20:13, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- I understand. I won't make any new accounts or edit using an IP. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 20:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- Just as an additional reminder, you are to use this account only. Editing from an IP address or other account will result in additional sanctions at the discretion of the stewards. Thank you for understanding. X (talk + contribs) 20:13, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- I have given her some minor rights like patroller so she can test without admin tools. This should be sufficient until the stewards make a decision. X (talk + contribs) 18:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm putting an indefinite restriction on that for now, as we have not yet come to a consensus regarding your rights. Justarandomamerican (talk) 18:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Just to remind myself...
I'm putting a list of the conditions I need to remember and abide by in order to keep testing here.
-No bad words or random letters in any edits
-Only use this account (Piccadilly) here and don't edit through an IP
-Don't edit any abuse filters
-Leave the partial block on me alone Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 02:37, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Accounts
For logging purposes, have you used any other accounts besides the ones listed at Test Wiki:Long-term abuse/Piccadilly? X (talk + contribs) 00:35, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Here are some I used years ago: https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cincinnati_Rose
https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:Contributions/Loclynn_Rose Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 00:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, I appreciate your honesty. I can unban you from the discord too, if you would like since you are now unblocked. X (talk + contribs) 00:48, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I would appreciate that. Thank you. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 00:53, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Done X (talk + contribs)
- Also, I think participating in administrator school would be good for you. X (talk + contribs) 00:56, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. Do I just read the page and then tell you thatI've read it? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, read through it, let me know if you have any questions. Then we can do some scenarios with sysop tools, then you can take the "quiz" to get your badge. X (talk + contribs) 01:03, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I will go read it now and then let you know here when I'm done. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- I have read the administrator school page and am ready to take the test. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Let's do some scenarios first. I'll use my test account. X (talk + contribs) 01:14, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, sounds good. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Good job. FYI, if a page is completely vandalism with no good version, just use regular, not revision deletion. We can do the test tomorrow. X (talk + contribs) 01:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll remember that. So if I pass the test, will I be given admin rights again? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- It's likely that would influence our final decision. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. I think I will do well on it. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:41, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- The test is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSddtnvnayah7z4rZ3P8wu4cExeqfomMa9Cp9DSYEnDnDTBRWQ/viewform?usp=sf_link. Good luck. X (talk + contribs) 02:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- It says I need permission by someon in the owner's organization to see it. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 02:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed, try now. X (talk + contribs) 02:48, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you; I just finished and submitted the quiz. It was very well-done and comprehensive. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 03:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Graded and I explained incorrect answers. X (talk + contribs) 03:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Stewards can access results here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/11ot2R88D_TTcMy_eMfWRkhAqDbBTnKXM37tE7pjIcxg/viewanalytics. Piccadilly, your email has your scores. X (talk + contribs) 03:18, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Okay thanks. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 03:18, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Graded and I explained incorrect answers. X (talk + contribs) 03:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you; I just finished and submitted the quiz. It was very well-done and comprehensive. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 03:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed, try now. X (talk + contribs) 02:48, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- It says I need permission by someon in the owner's organization to see it. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 02:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- The test is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSddtnvnayah7z4rZ3P8wu4cExeqfomMa9Cp9DSYEnDnDTBRWQ/viewform?usp=sf_link. Good luck. X (talk + contribs) 02:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. I think I will do well on it. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:41, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- It's likely that would influence our final decision. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll remember that. So if I pass the test, will I be given admin rights again? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Good job. FYI, if a page is completely vandalism with no good version, just use regular, not revision deletion. We can do the test tomorrow. X (talk + contribs) 01:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, sounds good. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Let's do some scenarios first. I'll use my test account. X (talk + contribs) 01:14, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- I have read the administrator school page and am ready to take the test. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I will go read it now and then let you know here when I'm done. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, read through it, let me know if you have any questions. Then we can do some scenarios with sysop tools, then you can take the "quiz" to get your badge. X (talk + contribs) 01:03, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
I reviewed my incorrect answers and your feedback, which was helpful. Is there anything else I need to do right now, or do I just wait to hear about my rights? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 03:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Please wait for a bit. @X: I've mentioned you on Discord about her rights. Please respond with your observations and/or a helpful recommendation once able. Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Resilient Barnstar |
| Despite being blocked, and even banned, several times, you are remorseful, work to do better, and constructively test, with an interest in helping out in non-test areas. Most people like you would give up by now, hence why I am awarding you this barnstar. Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC) |
- Thank you. I really appreciate the kind words. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 06:36, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Warning
Creating random talk pages, no matter the content, is not allowed as it shows a tendency to revert back to your old behavior. I have added the talk namespaces to your block to help prevent you from doing this again. Thank you. X (talk + contribs) 11:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- All right I won't try to make those kinds of pages again. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 12:07, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- This is your second warning. Please don't test on non-test pages that are clearly marked. Thank you. X (talk + contribs) 19:08, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- In addition, your block has been extended to the Test Wiki namespace. This is your final warning. You may be blocked from editing Test Wiki without further notice if this doesn't stop. Justarandomamerican (talk) 19:12, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- I will be very careful with all of my tests from now on. I really don't want to be completely blocked again. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 19:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- In addition, your block has been extended to the Test Wiki namespace. This is your final warning. You may be blocked from editing Test Wiki without further notice if this doesn't stop. Justarandomamerican (talk) 19:12, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- This is your second warning. Please don't test on non-test pages that are clearly marked. Thank you. X (talk + contribs) 19:08, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Posting Request
I can't edit the Community Portal right now, but if it's allowed, I'd like to share my vote on Zippybonzo's appeal, which is as follows:
I supoort his unblock as well, as the other wiki isn't functional now, and I believe he should be given a second chance. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 20:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Let me reduce your block temporarily. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:28, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I posted my vote. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 20:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
My Note about Cocopuff's Concern Regarding Zippybonzo
(If someone could copy this over to the Community Portal, I would appreciate it.)
Perhaps if Zippybonzo is unblocked, it might help to havr an interaction ban between him and Cocopuff? Like they sometimes do on Wikipedia. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 15:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Done X (talk + contribs) 15:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 15:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
A Question About Bureaucrat Privileges
I know the subject of my bureaucrat righta had come up during our email conversation a few weeks ago, but I wasn't sure wheter a firm decision had been made. Is there any length of time I have to wait before requesting bureaucrat? Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 12:36, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- You'll get crat rights when and if we deem you ready to receive and be trusted with them. Justarandomamerican (talk) 13:10, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- All right. I'll just continue too work on showing that I can be trusted. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 13:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
My vote for EPIC's stewardship
(I can't post on the Community Portal so I'm recording my vote here.)
I support him becoming a steward. I think he'll do a great job. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 14:00, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Copied over. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:12, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 14:25, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Appeal of partial block
Since I have been testing here for a few weeks without problems, I was wondering if my partial block can be lifted. I would like to become a bureaucrat so I can help with granting user rights, and I would also like to be renamed to Fullegente. Thank you. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 00:27, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I am willing to grant the unblock and rights on the condition that this is your chance to prove that you understand the behavior you have been blocked for and will not repeat it. If you ever disrupt Test Wiki again or create a mess for someone else to clean up, such as by not quickly deleting test pages, you will be rapidly reblocked and indefinitely banned. Are these conditions clear? Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:44, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- If Justa wasn't clear enough already, this would be a "1 strike, you're out" deal. Once chance and no appeals if conditions are at all broken. X (talk + contribs) 01:48, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I clearly understand the conditions and that this is my last chance. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done. If you use this chance well, I or another Steward may lift the conditions, but not in the near future. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:55, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks for granting my appeal. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:56, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Reblocked per abuse log. X (talk + contribs) 13:36, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks for granting my appeal. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:56, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I clearly understand the conditions and that this is my last chance. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- If Justa wasn't clear enough already, this would be a "1 strike, you're out" deal. Once chance and no appeals if conditions are at all broken. X (talk + contribs) 01:48, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
About My Current Block
I acknowledge that I shouldn't have attempted any of my old habits again here. And I won't do so anymore. However, since my action was stopped by the filter, I don't think any disruption was caused. (And if that page had been created, I was going to delete it right afterwards.) So I don't think it's necessary for me to be blocked again. Piccadilly (My Contribs | My Messages) 14:17, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
If it would help, maybe I could be partially blocked again, but with a set minimum period of time before I can ask for the block to be removed. Piccadilly (My Contribs | My Messages) 19:46, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- As X and Justa have already stated: "Once chance and no appeals if conditions are at all broken." Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 21:34, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have re-revoked TPA, stewards can reverse at will. Seawolf35 (talk) 22:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Steward note, evidence has been received of this user targeting a racial slur at Miraheze stewards and CVT members in an apparent attempt to badger them into an unlock of her account. Therefore, she is indefinitely blocked from Test Wiki. Justarandomamerican (talk) 19:02, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for this update. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 17:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Talk page revocation is reasonable. Ideally, I prefer talk page revocation via page protection, so a reasonable protection level timeframe (usually 30-60 days) can be set. I have also allowed the user limited, reasonable use of Special:EmailUser to appeal their block (no more than one appeal within thirty days) and so discourage them from creating sockpuppet accounts. Dmehus (talk) 19:06, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Dmehus, Piccadilly should not be permitted to appeal their indefinite block. As per Justarandomamerican's comment stating she is indefinitely blocked from Test Wiki, along with evidence has been received of this user targeting a racial slur at Miraheze stewards and CVT members, it is clear that rehabilitation into the community should not be considered. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 18:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- It is possible that you could convince the community to ban her on Test Wiki:Community portal, which would require an appeal to be forwarded to the community. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- She is already community banned. Per Test Wiki:Blocks and bans, "Bans may be implied (most often by the community declining an unblock request) or explicit." Thus, the community must be consulted before unblocking Piccadilly. X (talk + contribs) 11:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- @X and Sav: I'd have to disagree with you, X. The community has never declined an unblock request or explicitly banned her, and a reasonable administrator may be willing to unblock her. You'd need to request a ban on the community portal, Sav/X. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'll request a ban on the community portal, thank you. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 01:00, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 01:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'll request a ban on the community portal, thank you. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 01:00, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- @X and Sav: I'd have to disagree with you, X. The community has never declined an unblock request or explicitly banned her, and a reasonable administrator may be willing to unblock her. You'd need to request a ban on the community portal, Sav/X. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- She is already community banned. Per Test Wiki:Blocks and bans, "Bans may be implied (most often by the community declining an unblock request) or explicit." Thus, the community must be consulted before unblocking Piccadilly. X (talk + contribs) 11:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sav, I think you misunderstood. Being allowed to appeal a currently indefinite block does not mean the appeal will be successful. They appealed their block over a month ago (or so), and it's not been removed, fundamentally, because, as Stewards, we agree they're not ready. When we do feel they're ready, I'd be happy, and am sure Justarandomamerican and Drummingman would be happy to consult with the community on what restrictions are needed, the duration of such restrictions, and a timeline for a gradual removal, as well as penalties for contravention. Allowing appeals is an important part of due process; to not allow an appeal, we'd be no better than, say, a totalitarian state like North Korea or even Russia, for that matter. At the end of the day, it's about balancing both due process as well as getting community feedback to ensure the user can be reintegrated. As to the racist slurs and racially insensitive comments, I am well of those. Piccadilly goes by Skiyomi on English Wikipedia. I've told them before it's not acceptable behaviour, will be revision deleted, and is grounds for immediate rights revocation and/or blocking or partial blocking as necessary. I know they don't mean them, and the user has said in our
#testadminwikiIRC channel that they struggle with autism. I take them at face value and am happy to extend good-faith and grace, to a point. We're at the point right now where they need to remain blocked for an extended period of time, to demonstrate to Stewards, and, by extension, the community, they have the capacity to learn. :) Dmehus (talk) 02:26, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- It is possible that you could convince the community to ban her on Test Wiki:Community portal, which would require an appeal to be forwarded to the community. Justarandomamerican (talk) 21:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Dmehus, Piccadilly should not be permitted to appeal their indefinite block. As per Justarandomamerican's comment stating she is indefinitely blocked from Test Wiki, along with evidence has been received of this user targeting a racial slur at Miraheze stewards and CVT members, it is clear that rehabilitation into the community should not be considered. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 18:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Talk page revocation is reasonable. Ideally, I prefer talk page revocation via page protection, so a reasonable protection level timeframe (usually 30-60 days) can be set. I have also allowed the user limited, reasonable use of Special:EmailUser to appeal their block (no more than one appeal within thirty days) and so discourage them from creating sockpuppet accounts. Dmehus (talk) 19:06, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for this update. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 17:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
