User talk:Proof

Unblock request

@Naleksuh: As Naleksuh requested I am using my original account as to not be considered a "sock" account. Why is my material being hidden? And why is everyone just staying silent about (redacted) being homophobic and not blocking him? Does this wiki really tolerate homophobic users? That's insane, it's a hate crime. Could some please just explain the logic behind not blocking (redacted) (a homophobic person with irrefutable evidence to back that up) but hiding my revisions, when all I've done is show proof that (redacted) is homophobic? I just want to understand honestly, I've not insulted anyone on this wiki and I will not do so as my only purpose is to expose (redacted) for who he is: a unapologetic homophobe. He can't just get away with that he's hurt a immeasurable amount of people with his homophobic statements and it has to stop. If he doesn't get block he will just think it is okay to be homophobic and IT IS NOT. Proof (talk) 08:23, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Also if another admin other than Naleksuh reads this, please don't delete it, let him read it please. Proof (talk) 08:24, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@Q8j: This user appears to have requested unblock from their original account, so why have you revision deleted their request and pulled talk page access? I do not see any evidence of block evasion when they were requesting from their original account and the original blocking sysop had talk page access enabled. Naleksuh (talk) 19:28, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@Naleksuh:his(her) opinion above((redacted) being...) is repeated many times with his sockpuppets, and most(all?) of them are hidden. I thought it can be libel/personal attack, and therefore hid that.--Q8j (talk) 20:14, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

I for one have not investigated the validity of the user's claims, I was simply procedurally blocking them for block evasion. If they are indeed requesting from their original account, I would see no problem with them requesting unblock. Naleksuh (talk) 20:26, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I agree blocked user can request for unblock from their original talk page. But I thought the comment above is just attack under the guise of "unblock request".Q8j (talk) 20:34, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

This does not appear to be a valid unblock request. Indeed as worded it suggests the exact opposite, that an indefinate Community Exile is the best path forward for all parties as nothing in the request nor your history thus far clearly evinces a desire to either conduct any testing yourself nor to facilitating testing for others, and you obviously have no intention of ever becoming a Community Member. Indeed for Online Communities in general and wikis in particular, people whose personal agendas and actions appear to be unrelated to the communities purpose are always at risk of having their privilege to contribute removed.

Please understand that, as long as you continue to create sockpuppets for the sole purpose of hurling accusations of misbehavior/launching personal attacks/casting aspersions upon other users, that all of your edits will be reverted, all of the pages you create will be deleted, all of your accounts will be blocked, and it will take a local sysop all of 60 seconds to accomplish this (admittedly boring) task, while you waste much more of your own time to make the mess in the first place.

No respectable wiki will block people because a random person on the internet attacks them with claims that they are racist, homophobic, or have some other personality defects. Blocks will only be issued if contributors demonstrate that behavior on the wiki, and none of our currently active contributors have such problems, or if there is strong evidence of extensive off-wiki harassment or similar undesirable behavior directed towards other users that threatens the integrity of the project, and no something that anyone can photoshop about anyone else does not count.

If you do in fact poses solid evidence of a local contributor harassing others off-wiki, you may submit it in private via staff@testwiki.wiki.

Also as a word to the wise, while there is no local policy saying that the user talk pages of blocked users must only be used for requesting unblocks. Access to them may be revoked if disruptive editing occurs just as it would for any other pages, and yes repeated improperly evidenced accusations leveled by name against other contributors are disruptive. If talk page access is revoked any future appeal would also need to occur via e-mail.

And just so things are clear, none of this has nothing to do with you personally, it's just a standard WikiPattern, and you are free to leave at anytime. Regards, Fast - ZoomZoom (talk) 01:34, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Fast: I can confirm that Cocopuff2018 has made comments in #wikipedia-en that were seen by others as homophobic and was banned by a channel operator due to it. However, if User:Proof wants to raise a concern about User:Cocopuff2018, they can do so without sockpuppetry as that will certainly not be taken seriously. Naleksuh (talk) 07:21, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Naleksuh for defending me and allowing me to make my claims as well as acknowledging the truth about Cocopuff2018's behavior in #wikipedia-en. I will ping @Justarandomamerican: so that he can also see that I am not a crazy person and that another user has confirmed the truth. I am aware that my actions on this wiki are not very appropriate and I admit that I am not necessarily here for testing purposes, instead I am here to prevent a user who harasses, offends and insults others from being part of an otherwise decent, respectable and otherwise welcoming community. Regarding this statement "No respectable wiki will block people because a random person on the internet attacks them with claims that they are racist, homophobic, or have some other personality defects", I do concede that I am a "random person" but Naleksuh (a not random person!) has just confirmed that Cocopuff2018 has made homophobic comments, do you really find it so absurd that he would do so via a Discord direct message? I can assure you I do not even have Photoshop or any photo editing software and I have honestly never used such a program.

Cocopuff has harmed people as I have said before. Besides that, he has his own wiki where he can test admin tools all he wants. Why allow someone who causes drama everywhere he goes and who deeply offends people of different sexual orientation than him to keep being part of this wiki when he doesn't even need it to test administrator tools? I again think that the best way to move forward is to prevent Cocopuff2018 from editing on this wiki due to the overwhelming evidence. Lastly, a kind editor who has been harassed a few months ago by Cocopuff and understandably does not wish to be named has provided me with more evidence. Due to my block here I am unable to upload it to this wiki, and for that reason you may access it <link prevented due to abusefilter> via this image hosting website. I would point you to Coco's personally hosted wiki where its uploaded but I fear he will soon delete it as it does not look good for him at all considering his pattern of homophobic statements. Thank you for your time, and I again must apologize for the way that I approached this and the spam, it was misplaced anger. I also promise you that if my case is heard out correctly and sanctions are applied to Cocopuff2018 you will never see me again around here with any account. Proof (talk) 10:13, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

My pronouns are they/them, I do not use he/him pronouns anywhere. It sounds crazy that I have to tell a user who is making accusations of homophobia my pronouns. Justarandomamerican (talk) 10:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)