User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891

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CM3891 (talk) 00:06, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

@CM3891: Thanks! Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 01:01, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

My log was constructive.

My log was constructive. Please revert your action and send me a message. Thanks. TUFTest4 (talk) 17:23, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

@TUFTest4: I will, only if your edit summary was constructive. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 17:26, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

New signature

Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk | contribs | rights | block) 20:36, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Chat moderator and confirmed

I want those requests those permission now TUFTest4 (talk) 00:15, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

 Done Enjoy! Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk | contribs | rights | block) 00:16, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

 Revoked Do not revert unless totally necessary. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk | contribs | rights | block) 00:32, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Add permissions

Can I have confirmed, chat mdoerator, autopatrolled, and researchers permissions. Thank you. CM8782 (talk) 00:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Do it here. CM8782 (talk) 00:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

 Done Happy testing! Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 00:19, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

1. REDIRECT Special:MyLanguage/Template:Not done Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 23:25, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

User rights

Can I have patroller please. CM8782 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 00:28, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

 Quickly done Happy testing! Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 00:29, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

1. REDIRECT Special:MyLanguage/Template:Not done Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 23:25, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

rollback

may i have permission for this? thank you – Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolkikmoddi (talk • contribs)

Already done. Also, please make sure to sign your posts like this: ~~~~ Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 21:05, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

As an administrator you already have this right. See Special:ListGroupRights. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 21:06, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Bureaucrat

May you please look at my request? thank you. – Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolkikmoddi (talk • contribs)

Already done. Also, please make sure to sign your posts like this: ~~~~ Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 21:05, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

False positive

Hello. It seems you blocked TUFTest4 indefinitely. Could you unblock him as a false positive? Example (talk) 17:20, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Technially yes. If this user misbehaves the user, he will be reblocked. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 17:24, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

I could either reply to Example or not, but I'm gonna leave it to admins, crats, or stewards. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 23:22, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for giving me another chance. TUFTest4 (talk) 17:25, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Now blocked for numerous violations: sockpuppet, abusing multiple accounts, vandalism, long term abuse. Drummingman recently restored the block of TUFTest4 by Q8j. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 23:20, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Blocked

Discussion

Dear, Tailsultimatefan3891 I have blocked you indefinitely for harassment, sock puppet abuse and as far as I am concerned for abuse of authority. If you can show that you are not going to harass and abuse with multiple accounts you can be unblocked, but I will leave that to other admins or stewards. Regards, Drummingman (talk) 21:24, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

@Drummingman: Actually, can I wait? And do I have to add the text {{unblock|reason=your reason here ~~~~}} ? Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 23:15, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

I am not convinced that works here. As a blocking administrator, I recommend that you wait at least another six months. I hope by then you can show on other wikis that you can contribute constructively; without sock puppetry, ed. Furthermore, your talk page is now only open for discussion about your blocking, please only talk about that, otherwise your talk page will also be blocked. Drummingman (talk) 08:32, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

@Drummingman: Yep, if I make constructive edits to Wikimedia projects, I would recommend waiting for at least a year from today. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Okay, as you suggested. I sincerely hope you do and that I don't see you blocked again for the same things in any wiki project: because this is already the 3rd project as far as I know in which you have been blocked for sock puppet abuse; good hand bad hand and harassment. I don't know if you really get it, I hope you understand the gravity of the situation. Drummingman (talk) 22:07, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

@Drummingman: Will make an unblock request on or after 20:48, 27 October 2023 (UTC). Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 21:25, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

That's fine with me, in the meantime show that you can edit constructively to other projects, and then we'll see further if you can come back. I sincerely hope, I can give positive advice for your unblocking. I hope you don't disappoint us. Greetings, Drummingman (talk) 21:42, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

@Drummingman: I have Meta account here. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 21:45, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

I know it :-), Drummingman (talk) 21:58, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

@Drummingman: When I will get admin and bureaucrat privileges back. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 23:04, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

As long as you are still blocked, that is impossible. Thereafter, we will see if and when you can get them back. I kindly ask you to stop the consultation now until your unblocking request in 1 year as you yourself suggested. Drummingman (talk) 23:16, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

I created new sections now. Thanks for the reply! Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 23:19, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Dear Tailsultimatefan3891, as I see you have been blocked indefinitely on meta-wiki for vandalism. I can only conclude that you are untrustworthy. Therefore, I cannot give a positive unblocking advice, the matter is now up to the stewards as far as I am concerned if and when they want to give you another chance on this wiki. Greetings from, Drummingman (talk) 16:05, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

I concur with Drummingman here. When I last investigated this in November, I saw obvious sockpuppetry together with highly disruptive vandalism. I'm not prepared to restore your user talk page access at this point, but if one bureaucrat agrees to extending you a modest leash to formulate a new appeal, by way of a reply here, I'd be open to at least restoring your user talk page access. Note I would want to see an indefinite user restriction limiting you to one user account and restricting you against using VPNs/open proxies without express on-wiki consent of a Steward, but in addition to that, I would also like to see you publicly acknowledge all of your incorrect behaviour, how you plan to correct that, and, crucially, what, if any, other counter-measures you propose should you contravene your promises in the future. Dmehus (talk) 20:10, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Agree. I've restored TPA myself because I'd like to allow a public appeal due to the length of time that has passed and the fact that a WM unlock was granted recently. Tailsultimatefan3891, your appeal must contain an acknowledgement and how you plan to correct past incorrect behavior, or it will be declined. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:06, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

@Drummingman: as the original blocking bureaucrat (now steward), what is your opinion on restoring TPA? Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:07, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

IMHO i would say leave the ban as is @Justarandomamerican Cocopuff2018 (talk) 20:16, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps I will be wrong, and they will simply get back and abuse TPA. I am granting them a public appeal, and that only. I will not unblock them. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:19, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

is this person an LTA Of Seiyena @Justarandomamerican Cocopuff2018 (talk) 20:22, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

That's not likely given the fact that WM stewards unlocked their account. Seiyena is WMF global banned, and I'm fairly certain WM stewards would at least perform an investigation before unlocking. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:25, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

are they a n LTA of Seiyena @Justarandomamerican Cocopuff2018 (talk) 20:27, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Again, that is unlikely because of the reasons I mentioned above. It is possible, but not plausible. Justarandomamerican (talk) 20:28, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

@Justarandomamericanthey have the same profile page as them Cocopuff2018 (talk) 20:29, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

That's fine. I'm curious if Tailsultimatefan3891's behavior has changed positively? Drummingman (talk) 20:29, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Numberous extremely highly disruptive behavior was spotted to me both on-wiki and off-wiki. First, I started on Fandom, made numberous socks on fandom (e.g. Commonprenton, Existnot, Passwordsishere, etc.) Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:36, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Commonprenton's Numberblocks Wiki Block: [1] Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:38, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

This really doesn’t help your unblock case. X (talk) 15:38, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Also have Wikimedia account Commonprenton locked. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:39, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Fandom account Existnot is globally blocked, then globally locked. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:40, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

100.11.109.181 is blocked for 3 days for disruptive editing on Wikipedia on May 15, 2021 to May 18, 2021: [2] Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:43, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

How is this relevant to an appeal? X (talk) 15:43, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Relevant appeals: Will read WP:GTAB. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:45, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

How about to get @MacFan4000: involved in this? Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:47, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Less than half an hour than 100.11.109.181 was blocked for disruptive editing on Wikipedia on May 15, 2021, The IP lost TPA rights as 331dot changed block settings for this IP: [3] Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block)

And I did nothing after the UTRS appeal was declined until May 18, 2021. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:50, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Ponyo blocked 100.11.109.181 on Wikipedia again on June 11, 2021 for disruptive editing and extreme WP:CIR issues: [4] Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:56, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Gldgenga471834gldben account on Wikipedia made numberous edits without providing citing sources. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:59, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Please note that your talk page access is only permitted to be used to discuss your block and possibly an unblock. Any further unrelated comments will lead to you not being able to edit your talk page. X (talk) 16:54, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Unblock requests

Suggestions for unblock request

Hi, I just wanted to ask you two quesrions that might help here.

1. What did you do wrong to be blocked here?

2. What can you do here differently that will be good here?

Try to focus on just this wiki, not on Fandom or Wikimedia. Think about your actions on this wiki only.

I hope this helps. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 16:04, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Unblock request 1

Status:  Done

Here is the reason why you should unblock me:

"Overall, first, I am confirmed I did sockpuppetry, harassment, intimidating, obscene, and abusive behavior, disorderly conduct. I abuse multiple accounts. Also for long-term abuse and also cross-wiki abuse. For abuse of privilege beyond testually reasonable, I'm also blocked. Drummingman, Justarandomamerican, Dmehus, Seiyena, and X was involved in this.

In the future: Indefinite restriction to one account, abusive behavior de-escalated, and VPNs/proxies use not permitted. VPNs/proxies use prohibited. Grossly disruptive behavior, will result in a one-strike block. Creating pages with grossly illegal, immoral, unethical, insulting, degrading, or offensive material to the standards of morality, decency and propriety is strictly prohibited and will result in a one-strike block."

Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 18:50, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

This sounds like a reasonable appeal to me. Nice job. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 19:12, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

After a discussion with @Drummingman, this is  Done. In addition to the above restrictions, you may not request sysop rights for 2 weeks from now or bureaucrat rights until a month from now. This is to show you can be trusted. X (talk) 19:35, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Indeed. You've been given another chance on this wiki, don't ruin it. Drummingman (talk) 19:38, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

I will also not request steward rights for 3 months from now or system administrator rights for 6 months from now. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 01:35, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

That’s fine, and probably wise. But just note that this isn’t an official restriction. X (talk) 01:54, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

question

are you a sock account of Seiyena @Tailsultimatefan3891 Cocopuff2018 (talk) 20:24, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Nope, 2 separate LTAs. X (talk) 20:31, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Indeed that had already been investigated by another steward Drummingman (talk) 20:33, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming. X (talk) 20:33, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

so seiyena and tailsulimatefan3891? are the same person @Drummingman@X Cocopuff2018 (talk) 21:09, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

No, they arnt the same person. X (talk) 21:17, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Well? That's a easy question for X to answer. The discussion is to be closed. Do not reply to me. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:27, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

What’s that supposed to mean. I believe the words you’re looking for are “thank you for granting me a second chance to appeal”. X (talk) 15:32, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

"thank you for granting me a second chance to appeal". When a chance to appeal is blocked, I get another chance to appeal after waiting long periods of time. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 15:35, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Congrats!

Congratulations on your unblock here. Also, congrats on getting your Wikimedia account unlocked. My own account is still locked but I hope it will be unlocked before too long like yours was. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 19:42, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Warning ⛔️

This is a formal warning on behalf of @Drummingman and I. Please don’t accuse random users of sock puppetry with no evidence at all. This is unreasonable and unacceptable. Thank you. X (talk) 21:57, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I won't do it again. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 22:08, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Things to remember

1. Follow behavior guidelines.
2. The following are prohibited and I refer them to the prohibited things:
   1. Intimidating behavior
   2. Obscene behavior
   3. Abusive behavior
   4. Disruptive behavior
   5. Harassment
   6. Legal threats
   7. NSFW behavior
   8. Immoral behavior
   9. Illegal behavior
   10. Unethical behavior
   11. Slurs
   12. Heavy amount and realistic details of inappropriate content
   13. Libelous behavior
   14. Defamatory behavior
   15. Things against the law
   16. Unlawful behavior
   17. Hate speech
   18. Cross-wiki abuse
   19. Long-term abuse
   20. Sockpuppetry
   21. Meatpuppetry
   22. Extremely bad behavior
   23. Google Terms of Use, Wikimedia Terms of Use, Miraheze Terms of Use, and/or Fandom Terms of Use violations
   24. Copyright violations
   25. Privacy violations
   26. Grossly insulting, degrading, and/or offensive material and detailed
   27. Grossly insulting, degrading, and/or offensive material to the standards of morality, decency and propriety
   28. Frequently and/or highly crossly, gratuitous, cruel, exploitative, and/or offensive behavior
3. No false statements are allowed unless evidence considers it true.
4. I will blocked if I do anything that is noticed as I refer to the prohibited things.

Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) (contribs) (rights) (block) 00:50, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

New signature

Tailsultimatefan3891 (T | C | UR | B) 12:49, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Mass creation of pages

If you want to test creation and editing, create 1 page and test on that one page. Repeatedly creating pages imposes a burden on us to delete all of them once we think your test is done, sometimes requiring the use of mass deletion. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:10, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Duplicate test page creations and file uploads

Hi Tailsultimatefan3891,

I'm Doug, a Steward, and I've just kindly cleaned up your test page creations and file uploads. While testing here is fine, I do not see a need to create duplicates of the same pages and image uploads, particularly when you don't have sysop permissions. I would normally invite you to request that permission, but given the unexplained page creations, I'm reluctant to grant that permission. If you have a good explanation, or if another steward or bureaucrat supports granting the permission, I can be persuaded otherwise.

Thanks,
Dmehus (talk) 00:13, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Undo partial block Community portal indef block

I was adding numberous CP discussions that are not necessary and I will not do it again.

• Start of block: 2023-07-03T20:18:04
• Expiration of block: no expiry set
• Intended blockee: ‪Tailsultimatefan3891‬
• Block ID: #10587.

Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 00:22, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Partially blocked from Test Wiki:Community portal

Hi Tailsultimatefan3891,

I was originally just going to give you a final warning, but had to partially block you as you subsequently posted a new discussion at Test Wiki:Community portal immediately after my reverting your multiple added proposals in rapid succession. While it is an indefinite Steward block, I will unblock you immediately if you promise not to start more than one discussion as a person at any given time. That is to say, until a discussion you start as a person, regardless of which user account you started it under, has been closed, you are indefinitely prohibited from starting a new discussion concurrently.

Thanks,
Dmehus (talk) 00:25, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I'll need you to reply to this thread, please, stating you understand the conditions outlined herein. :) Dmehus (talk) 00:25, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I'll agree to the following conditions: (a) Multiple community portal dicussions are not accepted, (b) Inappropriate behavior not allowed, (c) Serious impacts of vandalism on the wiki (including trolling and bad faith behavior) and creating multiple community portal discussion will result in an ONESTRIKE block. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 00:31, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Actually, looking at your block log and your prior warnings, I'm seeing you having reverted to the same abuse patterns, so to help us help you and avoid a potential community block, I'm going to extend your block to sitewide, with appeals considered not sooner than three months. I'll leave the researcher permission to help you assess what we mean by abuse. Should an appeal be successful, the partial block will remain until you agree to the conditions I outlined above. Should you engage in sockpuppetry, the date for an appeal resets to the date of most recent proven sock. Dmehus (talk) 00:37, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I would like to request that for a future sitewide unblock request to be accepted, they shall agree to a ban from the Template and Module namespaces, to be enforced by a partial block. There appears to be a recurring issue of cut-and-paste imports leading to a lot of broken templates. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:54, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

That's reasonable and probably a good idea. That can be added to their partial block should an appeal be accepted. Feel free to update the permalink to this revision on their user page. :) Dmehus (talk) 00:59, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

This is completely unwarranted, and I strongly oppose it. We are really blocking people for posting too much at the community portal. Why? And then we extended it to sitewide. Why? And this is all after being given 0 warnings about community portal involvement. And then you make appeals for 3 months!?! For commenting too much on the community portal?!? I am dumbfounded. I think this block is completely unnecessary and I’d like it to be removed immediately @Dmehus. X (talk) 01:09, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Was the partial block necessary to prevent disruption at the time it was placed? I'd say so, given that they added a similar discussion to the ones being reverted after they were reverted. The sitewide block, however, is debatable. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:19, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I think a warning was more appropriate, but I don’t think the temporary block was completely wrong. What I strongly oppose is the sitewide block. X (talk) 01:22, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I question the reason for the sitewide indef, @Dmehus: what led you to believe they were returning to old ways? Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:23, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I know that as part of my unblock conditions, if I should slip back into old ways, people are to warn me first before blocking me up to 2 weeks. Why doesn't that apply to Tails as well?

Justarandomamerican, it was actually your indef block in March 2023 and the reasons for it, together with the behaviour precipitated the prior warnings on this user talk page and blocks. The edits in Template: and Module: did not help matters, either. In my view, I thought it would be best for the user to have a time out for a few months, to assess their behaviour reflectively, rather than have them continue and have it turn into a community block because the community was really annoyed. Dmehus (talk) 01:48, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I think I agree with your reasoning now, it just needed explanation. Thanks! Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:49, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

To be honest, I did consider a thirty-day time-limited block, but given the prior blocks, decided this was the better approach, but am happy to shorten it to one-month if you guys prefer. The partial blocks should be indef, though, I think. :) Dmehus (talk) 01:50, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I still don’t think this block was necessary now, and making them wait 3 months to appeal is cruel. Please switch to 1 month, or preferably just restore the partial block. Can you talk on Discord now? X (talk) 01:52, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I would not say it's cruel given the disruption. Isn't it worse to let someone stay here, continue to disrupt, and annoy the community so much as to precipitate a community block? If Justarandomamerican and Piccadilly both agree to shortening it to one-month, Justarandomamerican or I can do that. :) Dmehus (talk) 01:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Also, just a side comment about something unrelated. On Tails' user page, there is a link to what might be their English Wikipedia profile, but I'm not sure how that's relevant to their status here. I'm still globally locked on Wikimedia, but nobody seems to mind or feel the need to bring that up. I'm just wondering why that link was added, that's all. Piccadilly (My Contribs | Talk to me) 01:30, 4 July 2023 (UTC)