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Name change request

Latest comment: 8 June 20222 comments1 person in discussion

Good afternoon, @MacFan4000: & @Dmehus:.

I am requesting my Test Wiki username to be changed to Sav to closely reflect my personal name as Trayfel has no correlation to me.

Regards, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 13:52, 8 June 2022 (UTC).Reply

And can I please get my name changed to Bastrop please while you're at it? (Sorry to butt into your request, Trayfel, but I've been waiting on this for around a month or so.) The darkness is coming for you

@Seiyena: no worries at all. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 17:05, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Add CentralAuth

Latest comment: 20 June 20226 comments4 people in discussion

Hi, I think we can add the CentralAuth extension. Some permissions may be restricted. LisafBia (talk) 19:07, 19 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Wouldn't that only be useful for a network of wikis, that way someone could see which wikis someone else had edited? How would it be useful for just one wiki like this one? (I'm not against this, I'm just curious as to how it would be useful.) Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:10, 19 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Seiyena, to be used only for testing CentralAuth tools LisafBia (talk) 21:35, 19 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

I didn't know you could test anything there. That would be cool. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

This cannot be done. CentralAuth is not meant for use on a single wiki and is very difficult to get running. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 00:34, 20 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

I concur with MacFan4000. While it's an interesting extension, Test Wiki is a single wiki so would not make sense to install here. Dmehus (talk) 07:27, 20 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Rename account

Latest comment: 20 June 20221 comment1 person in discussion

I changed my name to "Chrs" over on Miraheze a while ago, could it please be renamed here too? — Arcversin (talk) 18:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

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-== Mind if I suggest something? ==
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-::Consensus in favor of extending the (non-steward/sysadmin) inactivity period to 3 months. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 22:58, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
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-Instead of having your access to the admin tools after 1 month goes by without activity, why not just have it be 3 months instead? I'd say that 1 month is a bit too short, and I'm not sure how one month would be enough of a reason. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 13:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
-:{{Ping|MacFan4000}} {{Ping|Dmehus}} Hello! How long will the proposal close? [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 12:13, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
-==== Supports ====
-: {{Support}} I like this idea, and can't see any drawbacks to it. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 16:27, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
-: {{Support}} I think it should be extended. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 16:36, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
-: {{Support}} Per nom. [[User:I_am_One|I am one]] ([[User_talk:I_am_One|as you are three]]) 23:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
-: {{Support}} I absolutely agree with that! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:19, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-=== Oppose ===
-:{{oppose}} We're giving out adminship and 'cratship as if they were candies. Isn't that good enough? [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:47, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-::It's definitely good but it would save bureaucrats some work by not having to re-add user rights so often and also save everyone else the hassle of having to ask for the rights again after just a short one-month hiatus. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 12:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-:::{{u|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh}} Being honest, revocation of an advanced permission after 1 month just seems too short, and I'd recommend at least 3 months, as it's usually fair, in terms of how we all operate on the Public Test Wiki on Miraheze. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 13:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
-=== Neutral ===
-:{{neutral}}--[[User:S871|S871]] ([[User talk:S871|talk]]) 00:09, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
-=== Other Comments ===
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-== Should the policy be updated now? ==
-Seeing as this has majority support, should one of the bureaucrats update the policy to reflect the new time? Or do we have to get a Steward's approval for policy changes? [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 14:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
-== CheckUser request ==
-* [[User:七海娜娜米2b]]
-* [[User:七海娜娜米3b]]
-* [[User:想舞花]]
-These 2 users are blocked intefinite on Chinese Wikipedia and locked on Wikimedia foundation and [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=30118 this action] is suspected. Thanks! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 16:37, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
-:{{Ping|想舞花}} Could you explain the reason for [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=30118 this action] please? [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 20:12, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
-::{{ping|AlPaD}} I mean: give him permissions other than admin.--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 23:19, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
-:::{{Ping|想舞花}} Thanks for reply! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 07:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
-:Maybe it's their test account. Also, I don't know why being indefinitely blocked on Wikipedia or globally locked on Wikimedia matters here. My Wikimedia account is globally locked and blocked indefinitely on English Wikipedia, but as long as people behave here, I think they should be welcome here. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 20:16, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
-::{{Ping|Seiyena}} I don't think is a test account because he had requested administrator rights, while the test accounts don't need to be requested. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a sockpuppet issue. It's better steward see the issue and let our know if he needs CheckUser. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 07:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
-:::I saw it again and maybe I was wrong. In the Chinese Wikipedia there are daily blocked for sockpuppetry and 想舞花 was banned from the Wikimedia foundation while 七海娜娜米 wasn't. I know that even if someone is blocked on Wikimedia they can contribute here and sorry if I was wrong. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 20:04, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
-:七海娜娜米2b and 七海娜娜米3b, are technically identical, 想舞花 is not connected to the other two, but the CU results were interesting. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 14:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
-::{{Ping|MacFan4000}} Thank you! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 17:04, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
-:::I'm block they account.--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 05:56, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
-::::They had been blocked with autoblock disabled. I've modified block setting and enabled autoblock.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 07:32, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
-== [[Special:AbuseFilter/52]] ==
-The third line should have been <code>& !page_id == 702</code>. Currently it's checking for spam edits on [[TW:RFP]]... [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:48, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-:Pinging {{ping|Dmehus|p=}}. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-::Can't admins edit the filters themselves? I know that on another wiki that was possible. Just saying. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-:::Filters with restricted actions (namely, blocking) can only be edited by Stewards. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
-:It would actually be <code>page_id != 702</code>, since this is an equality check. Also, it's generally good practice to surround any negation that isn't a single function with parentheses, like so: <code>!('x' in y)</code> —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
-== In regards to [[User:Seiyena]]. ==
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-::This has already been addressed, by another user. I strongly loathe any sort of 'community block' for [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], even marginally good-faith users. Block, CheckUser, rinse, and repeat has been tried, and I'm not keen to go back there, at least not ''yet''. This is a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]-managed affair, and I did suggest it might've been ''too soon'' to grant bureaucrat. In any case, I'm going to work on having [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] deploy the Miraheze global abuse filter to mitigate this. I don't believe an indefinite suspension of bureaucrat; I would rather manage this a month at a time. If bureaucrat revocation is required, I'll do that. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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-Hi all, I hope this message finds you well.
-After [[Special:Diff/21471|noticing]] more and more reports regarding Seiyena, I have come to the decision to cast a vote regarding this user.
-This user has made '''several''' racist, homophobic and frankly, disgusting comments on this Wiki. They have had chance after chance to stop this behavior and have even been given Administrator permissions after every "apology".
-Frankly, I think they are unfit to be a sysop on this Wiki and I am here to ask for the community's opinion on a blacklist for requesting permissions.
-Pinging {{Ping|Dmehus}} & {{Ping|MacFan4000}} for their opinion. [[User:Trayfel|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-:Question: Is this blacklist intended to be temporary or indefinite? [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:27, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-::Considering the amount of abuse you have contributed towards this Wiki, I would say if granted, the RFP blacklist would be indefinite. [[User:Trayfel|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:30, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-:::{{Ping|Trayfel}} Hello! Maybe for a while she should be blocked from some namespaces and have lower rights (autopatrol, researcher etc). [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 19:33, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-::::I like AlPad's idea, and wouldn't be against a temporary blacklist, to be honest. I don't like the indefinite idea, but do feel that maybe temporary is warranted. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-:::::With all due regards Sieyena, this isn't down to you. {{Ping|AlPaD}} I agree, I think an indefinite blacklist from sysop permissions with the exception of Seiyena being allowed Autopatrol and researcher. Thoughts? [[User:Trayfel|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:59, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
-I know that I can't make this decision by myself, but I do think I should at least be able to offer my views on this matter. My proposal is a temporary blacklist from requesting permissions together with a partial block from the Talk namespace and maybe the Request Permissions page. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 21:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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-:Noting that the aforementioned abuse filter has been deployed. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
-== Lift protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] ==
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-::{{Done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/31337|Done, at least temporarily]]}}, [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] et al., chiefly since [[Test Wiki:Interface administrators|interface administrator]] granting and revocation has since been restricted to Stewards for mainly security purposes, but ''do'' note we reserve the right to reinstate [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]] protection for this high impact CSS interface page depending on if [[w:WP:BEANS|BEANSey]] things happen. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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-Could the steward-only create protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] be removed? I'm trying to deploy some styles to get the {{tl|mbox}} series of templates properly working. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 01:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
-: {{Support}}. I also thought the other day I was going to work with styles, but it was blocked. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 13:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
-: {{Support}} I think the limitations on the MediaWiki:common page are; must be granted bureaucrat permits [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 09:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
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-== [[Special:AbuseFilter/89|Filter 89]] ==
-Looks like we're getting a few false positives here; I fixed a typo on an AbuseFilter warning and apparently I was disallowed. See [https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?wptarget=3PPYB6 my abuse log] for reference.
-@[[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]]—Courtesy ping if you have ideas. Thanks. —[[User:3PPYB6|3PPYB6]] ([[User talk:3PPYB6|talk]]) 16:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
-:This is the result of the filter filtering for the <code><nowiki><br></nowiki></code> tag, which is a very common indicator of spam. This is actually unnecessary (already in another filter), so I've removed it and extended the exempted groups. {{ping|Kazrok4545}} I've temporarily disabled the filter pending clarification on its intent, were you intending to do something akin to [[Special:AbuseFilter/88|filter 88]], or was this intended to be an addition to [[Special:AbuseFilter/52|filter 52]]? —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 20:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
-::Sorry, I forgot to switch off this filter. It was created for testing. It is advisable to add these words to filter 52. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 12:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
-== Rename Account ==
-Hi,
-Could you please rename my account Videojeux4 to HeartsDo, please.
-(Proof: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:HeartsDo here]) [[User:Videojeux4|Videojeux4]] ([[User talk:Videojeux4|talk]]) 04:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
-:Pinging {{Ping|Dmehus}} {{Ping|MacFan4000}} [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 05:51, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
-:[[User:Videojeux4|HeartsDo]], though I don't likely doubt this to be you, would you mind confirming your Test Wiki account from your Miraheze account? Thanks. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
-:I know the account to be legit. {{Done}}. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 03:12, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
-::Thanks! :p [[User:HeartsDo|HeartsDo]] ([[User talk:HeartsDo|talk]]) 16:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
-== Block Request ==
-Hello, I think it would be good if I took a break from here for a bit. Could someone please block me for a few days, like maybe until May 1? Thank you very much. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 09:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
-:{{ping|Seiyena}} I am willing to give out the block, on condition that:
-:# You agree not to evade your block using sockpuppets.
-:# You agree to be hard-blocked (i.e. with autoblock enabled).
-:[[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:51, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
-::I agree to both conditions.[[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 11:22, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
-:::You have now been blocked. Enjoy your break. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 11:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
-== Any thoughts on this proposed change to filter 88? ==
-Right now filter 88 is set to simply disallow the action that is trying to be performed. Given the number of recent triggers to that filter, maybe that should be changed to instead issue a 3-day block any time the filter is triggered as well as remove from any special groups like admin or bureaucrat. I think that might make it more effective at its job and also not cause it to be triggered so much. This proposal would need a steward's help to implement if it's approved since it involves adding restricted actions. But I do think this might be beneficial to the target of the filter.
-Any thoughts on whether this is a good or bad idea? [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 12:50, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
-:I see no problem if there are at least two non-steward users who can modify that filter. [[:wikipedia:Oligarchy|Oligarchy]] is not really a nice way to work, especially in wikis. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 17:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
-::Currently, filters with restricted actions (i.e. block, rangeblock, and degroup; though the later two aren't enabled at all here) can only be edited by Stewards. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 15:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
-:::I know. I'm waiting for [[Test Wiki:Community portal/06#Filter #52|this]]. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 20:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
-== Name Change Request ==
-Hi, can I please get my name changed to Bastrop? Thanks! [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:16, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
-:{{ping|Seiyena}} Pings will only work if you add your signature in the same edit in which you add the ping. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Arcversin|talk]])</span> 13:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
-Now I realize I messed up the ping yet again lol. Trying this again. {{ping|MacFan4000}} or {{ping|Dmehus}} Thanks! [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 08:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
-Hi {{ping|MacFan4000}} and {{ping|Dmehus}}, I would still like my name changed to Bastrop, if possible. Thank you. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 13:17, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
-== Proposed amendment to [[Test Wiki:Bots]] ==
-{{Discussion top|Both proposals fail. No clear consensus. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 22:44, 28 May 2022 (UTC)}}
-=== Proposal ===
-It is proposed that [[Test Wiki:Bots]] be amended [[Special:Diff/22074|as described]] at [[Test Wiki:Bots|the policy page]]. The <code>bot</code> flag [[rfc:2119|'''must not''']] be granted by [[Test Wiki:Stewards|non-test administrators]] on Test Wiki permanently. Requests for permanent/indefinite <code>bot</code> flags [[rfc:2119|''should'']] be made at [[Test Wiki:Bot approval requests]]. Requests should articulate the described particulars, at minimum. Bureaucrats may grant themselves the <code>bot</code> temporarily, for no more than twenty-four (24) hours, provided they state a clear and valid reason in their log summary. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
-'''Rationale:'''
-* Provides for consistent approval of indefinitely/permanently-granted <code>bot</code> flags;
-* Ensures bureaucrats and administrators are transparently disclosing all edits and log actions; and,
-* Provides overall clarity.
-==== Support ====
-*{{Support}} I agree with it. <del>Though I don't oppose it, [[#Counter-proposal]] seems bit complicated to me.</del>
-**Still, I'm confused about 1 sentence. "The bot flag '''must not''' be granted by '''non-test administrators''' on Test Wiki permanently". "non-test administrators" means steward, correct? Must '''not''' steward grant permanent bot flag? I'm not good at English, so I may have mistranslated that(I'm terribly sorry if so), but could you recheck that sentence, please?--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 08:00, 2 May 2022 (UTC) <small>Modify. On second thought.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 09:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)</small>
-*{{Support}} Per nom. [[User:I_am_One|I am one]] ([[User_talk:I_am_One|as you are three]]) 12:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
-==== Neutral/Abstain ====
-==== Oppose ====
-* {{Oppose}} –[[User:CrazyFisherman|CrazyFisherman]] ([[User talk:CrazyFisherman|talk]]) 20:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC) isn't necessary at all
-=== Counter-proposal ===
-As an alternative to the above primary proposal, the primary proposal is adopted ''except'' the <code>bot</code> flag is restricted technically to being granted by [[Test Wiki:Stewards|stewards]] and a new <code>[[Test Wiki:Pseudobots|pseudobot]]</code> or <code>[[Test Wiki:Flooders|flood]]</code> group is created for temporary uses, which may be granted by bureaucrats along the same terms as the primary propose. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:05, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
-'''Note:''' It is possible for you to support both the primary and counter-proposals and for both to pass.
-==== Support ====
-* {{support}} creation of the <code>flood</code> user group and {{oppose}} restricting the <code>bot</code> group to steward-only. However, I also {{support}} <em>disallowing</em> bureaucrats from granting themself <code>bot</code> (or <code>flood</code>) indefinitely unless they promises to revoke it after a short while (less than 24 hours, after which another crat may revoke the flag(s)). [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 03:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
-*: By the way, presuming <code>flood</code> consists of only one rights, <code>bot</code>, an admin-flooder will be able to do everything a bot can, apart from preventing notification when marking an edit as minor (<code>minornotalk</code>). [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 03:46, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
-*{{Support}} As Public TestWiki. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:31, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
-==== Neutral/Abstain ====
-{{Neutral}} [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 11:14, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
-{{Neutral}} --[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 05:53, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
-{{Neutral}} — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 13:12, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
-{{Neutral}} - Although complicated and long winded, I do prefer and agree with [[#Counter-proposal]]. [[User:Trayfel|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 10:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
-==== Oppose ====
-* {{Oppose}} –[[User:CrazyFisherman|CrazyFisherman]] ([[User talk:CrazyFisherman|talk]]) 20:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC) per abvoe
-=== General comments ===
-{{Discussion bottom}}
-== Stewardship request ==
-{{Discussion top|Unsuccessful, no consensus. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 22:46, 28 May 2022 (UTC)}}
-Hello, I'm LisafBia. Most butlers have jobs on other wikis and can't help. I think I'm active on this wiki and I think I can help. Please choose me steward! [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 19:08, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
-==== Support ====
-*It would be great to have a more active steward here, and you seem to do a good job here. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 17:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
-*Just be more careful in granting rights. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 09:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
-==== Oppose ====
-*In [[Test Wiki:Request permissions/Archive10]], you handled request requested by Seiyena twice.
-**[[Special:PermaLink/22496#Seiyena_2|#Seiyena_2]], you granted her BC despite that I had put that on hold. My reason for putting it on hold is as Trayfel said. If you had checked her permissions log in advance, you could have noticed that it's prohibited by steward. And if you had asked me before, I would have answer the reason.
-**[[Special:PermaLink/22496#Seiyena_8|#Seiyena_8]], you granted admin again despite steward's prohibition.
-*Considering these facts, I have to conclude you used permission carelessly. Thus, I can't support this - not yet, at least. Sorry.
-*Also, although I don't think you're obliged to do that, I expect steward to enable 2FA.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 10:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
-:To be honest, I wouldn't hold those two incidents against them. I know that when I myself grant rights on the Miraheze test wiki, I never think to check the past log entries. It just never crosses my mind to do that. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 17:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
-==== Neutral ====
-<s>{{Neutral}} I don't know what's going on.--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 03:16, 24 May 2022 (UTC)</s>
-{{Discussion bottom}}
-== What does abuse filter throttle mean ==
-Hi, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this, I didn't know where else to put a general question like this. I recently got a notification that my abuse filter (https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/85) was throttled. What does that mean and does it need to be remedied in any way? Thanks! [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 13:20, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
-:Filter closed, thanks! [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 14:45, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
-== Request for steward's action regarding 想舞花 ==
-I'm requesting stewards(@[[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]], [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]]) to;
-#Endorse [[Special:Redirect/logid/32110|blocking]], [[Special:Redirect/logid/32111|permission revocation]]
-#Revoke 想舞花(and S871)'s permissions
-;Reason for request
-Abuse of bot account, and 想舞花's permission. Talk-reject.
-;Facts
-*[[User:S871bot]] is the bot account owned by User:想舞花([[Special:Redirect/logid/30040]])
-**[[User:S871]] is also 想舞花's account([[Special:Redirect/31206]])
-*At [[Test Wiki:Request permissions#Seiyena]]([[Special:PermaLink/22693#Seiyena|permalink]]), Seiyena requested admin/BC rights.
-**[[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] put that on hold to get steward's approval.
-**I found Dmehus(Miraheze) said "no objection" and proposed to shorten holding time to 48 hours.
-**想舞花 granted admin before that time expires.
-*Only 10 minutes after that, 想舞花 archived the section([[Special:PageHistory/Test Wiki:Request permissions/Archive11|Archive11]]).
-**Seiyena had question, but she asked that on archive page.
-*I felt he/she archived too early given that the matter is still ongoing and controversial. So I reverted archiving and explained that at [[User talk:想舞花]]([[Special:Diff/22648]]).
-*想舞花 made same edits using S871bot(it had bot flag).
-*I believed that this is clearly abuse of bot account. About a month ago, [[User:Arcversin|Arcversin]] told him not to make non-bot actions([[Special:PermaLink/21783#Your usage of the bot flag]]). So I [[Special:Redirect/logid/special:Redirect/logid/32111|revoked bot's permission]] and [[special:Redirect/logid/32110|blocked the bot]](with autoblock disabled). I notified that on '''[[User talk:想舞花]]''' and asked him/her not to revert the action([[Special:Diff/22652/22656]]).
-*想舞花 refused to explain reasons for bot account's action([[Special:PermaLink/22690#Archiving RFP]], [[Special:PermaLink/22696#i will not abuse my bot.]])
-*想舞花 removed [[Special:PermaLink/22690#Archiving RFP|#Archiving RFP]] section saying "不回答任何关于机器人的问题，如果你有机器人的问题，请发送信息给User:S871，谢谢！", removed blocking for bot and regranted admin, bot rights saying "Situation resolved".
---[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 17:46, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
-:Maybe just blocking the bot account and disallowing the use of it for awhile would help. I don't think the main account should be sanctioned yet. If they were to have issues when they were allowed to use the bot account again, then perhaps the block for the main account would be warranted.
-(Sorry if I'm butting into something that's none of my business, I just wanted to offer my opinion on this) [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 17:54, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
-::bot question should sent to this Account's talk page , Don't send to Main account's Talk Page.--[[User:S871|S871]] ([[User talk:S871|talk]]) 18:26, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
-=== statement by 想舞花 ===
-It is found that an IP is not the IP that my account and the robot commonly use to log in, it is hacked, and now the account has been restored. so i say Situation resolved. --[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 17:59, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
-The person who hacked the account, he and I live in the same community.--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 18:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
-My internet service provider is China Telecom, it can be accurate to the devices within the same wifi, his device is a laptop, mine is a desktop, I saw him quit using my robot account in reality normal thing. My bot account has been hacked, it's none of your business.--[[User:想舞花|想舞花]] ([[User talk:想舞花|talk]]) 18:18, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
-Just noting that 想舞花 has since retired from this wiki. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:16, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
-:Users are now relocked. CheckUser evidence confirms abuse of multiple accounts. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 14:58, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
-::Thanks a lot, this mess is finally resolved. I've noticed this user abusing admin tools, having wheel wars with others, etc., but not brave enough to call for urgent action here. {{ping|Q8j}} You are really righteous and brave. --[[User:Pavlov2~alternative|Pavlov2~alternative]] ([[User talk:Pavlov2~alternative|talk]]) 15:08, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
-== Stewardship request for Q8j ==
-<div class="boilerplate metadata discussion-archived" style="background-color: #F2F4FC; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #aaa">
-:''The following discussion is closed. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it</b>. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.''
-::Q8j is thanked for their interest in putting their name forward as a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]. There seems to be a general trend towards [[w:WP:CON|consensus]] that the user is ''active'' and perhaps ''trusted'', though only two users have expressed a few to the latter and another user has characterized Q8j as seeming to be "responsible" and other users haven't explicitly stated those views (though it may well be implied). We must be cautious in reading too much into what people have said, or not said, though, so it is best to take their views at face value (i.e., that which is explicitly stated). There are three neutral views, which aren't express support views and their arguments tend to echo [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]]'s opposing view that there may not be much, if any, ''need'' for an additional Steward. Indeed, looking at the [[Special:Log/renamuser|historical renames]], sixteen (16) users have had been renamed in the past six or seven years since Test Wiki was created. That's an average of two renames per year. Assuming MacFan4000 and I each take one rename and assuming the historical average pattern repeats itself, that's one rename apiece in 2022. In terms of problematic users, we have one [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]] user who is being managed through [[Special:AbuseLog/88|an abuse filter]] and one persistent LTA (Andyyeung), who we seem to be managing. There was one more support from Seiyena, and their argument largely echos AlPaD's and Trayfel's argument that Q8j is ''active'' but makes no mention was to the apparent ''need''. Indeed, by Q8j's own admission, they are chiefly active with permissions requests. I'm in the process of creating a Steward-granted <code>abusefilter-maintainer</code> non-test group on Test Wiki, so we could potentially explore a Steward granted <code>senior-bureaucrat</code> group that would have the ability to grant interface administrator permissions to trusted users under strict Steward defined conditions, potentially. The final support was unsigned and thus procedurally invalid. On a strict nosecount, that's four supports, two of which were weaker arguments, one oppose, and three neutrals, all of which echo the opposing view. So, in short, no consensus. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 04:39, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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-Hello. I'd like to request for steward permission.
-When we(BC) need steward's action, decision or approval, we send notification to stewards like "@MacFan4000 and @Dmehus". But sometimes their response can take some time.
-It can't be helped, given that there are only 2 stewards and they don't(of course, aren't obligated to) check this site frequently.
-I frequently check this site and notifications, so I think I can shorten response time.
-Of course, I'll be careful when I decide something or use permission as steward.
-Thank you for your consideration.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 07:43, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
-=== Vote and Comment ===
-:{{Support}} Trusted and active user. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 09:06, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
-::{{support}} / '''Question:''' {{Ping|Q8j}}, other than dealing with steward needed actions, what else will you contribute towards the site / community? [[User:Trayfel|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:03, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
-:::{{Reply|Trayfel}}Thank you for the question. Even if I gain steward right, my main activity here would be tasks that doesn't require steward permissions. Such as handling RFP.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 23:38, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
-::::{{Reply|Q8j}} Thank you for your response. I am changing my vote to {{support}} as you are a trusted user and we would benefit greatly having you as a Steward. [[User:Trayfel|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 12:37, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
-:Currently {{neutral}}, but you should really reconsider if sending messages like "Please choose me!" to user talk pages is adequate. –[[User:CrazyFisherman|CrazyFisherman]] ([[User talk:CrazyFisherman|talk]]) 22:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
-::{{Reply|CrazyFisherman}}I don't remember doing that. Would you mind clarifying which edit do you mean?--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 23:38, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
-::{{Reply|CrazyFisherman}}Uh, I found it. You mean [[Special:Diff/22804|this]], correct? then, the message is sent by LisafBia([[Special:Redirect/logid/32218|Log]]), not me and "There is currently a selection" refers to [[#Stewardship_request]]. I guess there's misunderstanding.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 07:31, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
-:Right now I'm {{neutral}}. You seem responsible but I'm not really sure if we need another steward... Best, [[User:Hellk77|Hellk77]] ([[User talk:Hellk77|talk]]) 22:15, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
-{{Support}} Q8j seems to be here a lot more frequently than the current stewards, both of whom have duties on other sites, and would most likely be able to handle any pressing issues within a short time. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 11:36, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
-I'm also {{neutral}} leaning weak {{oppose}} as I think there's no need for another steward on this <em>test</em> wiki. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 14:17, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
-*{{support}} You are very active on the wiki. I think you can do this task.
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-:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it</b>. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.'' </div>
-*Thanks to everyone involved in this election.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 07:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
-== How do you modify the block reasons drop-down menu? ==
-I wanted to move the "Steward action" reason to the section of reasons to only be used by stewards, as I think it belongs there. [[User:Seiyena|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 23:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
-:Moved. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 14:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
-: Hi, {{ping|Seiyena}}! To do this, you need to write a separate module, since I do not know the parameter at the software level. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 08:39, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
-== Skins and mobile view problem ==
-Hello! I installed timeless skin in my preferences, but it didn't change the skin on the mobile screen. Why? Thanks! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 10:26, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
-:I will look into this. The mobile skin is handled by the MobileFrontend extension. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 12:08, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
-::Thanks, I requested [[Phab:T63|new skin]]. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 14:02, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
-:::Fixed, in newer versions of the extension, the way to set the default mobile skin was changed. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 23:20, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
-::::Thank you! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 04:26, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 == Name change request ==
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 :And can I please get my name changed to Bastrop please while you're at it? (Sorry to butt into your request, Trayfel, but I've been waiting on this for around a month or so.) [[User:Seiyena|The darkness]] [[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">is coming</span>]] [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">for you</span>]]
 {{Reply|Seiyena}} no worries at all. [[User:Trayfel|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 17:05, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
-== Deletion Request ==
-Hi, can someone please delete my sandbox? I don't need it any more. Thank you! https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/User:Seiyena/sandbox [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 10:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
-:{{done}} [[User:Trayfel|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Trayfel|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 22:18, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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