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*:::Yes, I have definitely looked at their history. I wouldn't have started this without looking at their history. I am saying that the user has changed. There is no doubt that this user has misbehaved in the past, I am definitely not denying that. I am saying that the users behavior has changed. As a steward on For-Test Wiki, I can say that the user's behavior has significantly improved. They have edited constructively and never vandalized since we unblocked them. People can change, and I am inclined to assume good faith that this user has too. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 12:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC) | *:::Yes, I have definitely looked at their history. I wouldn't have started this without looking at their history. I am saying that the user has changed. There is no doubt that this user has misbehaved in the past, I am definitely not denying that. I am saying that the users behavior has changed. As a steward on For-Test Wiki, I can say that the user's behavior has significantly improved. They have edited constructively and never vandalized since we unblocked them. People can change, and I am inclined to assume good faith that this user has too. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 12:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
*'''Accept appeal''': People change, and based on their current behavior elsewhere, I am inclined to assume that a block/ban is not necessary to prevent further disruption. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC) | *'''Accept appeal''': People change, and based on their current behavior elsewhere, I am inclined to assume that a block/ban is not necessary to prevent further disruption. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
* Seiyena is a difficult case, she has caused quite a bit of disruption cross-wiki, besides, she has already had many opportunities on this Test Wiki. I am taking a '''neutral stance''' on it. Should it be decided that she may be unblocked, this does seem to me to be the very last chance. Anyway, I think one of the current stewards should make the decision, since Dmehus already gave her a chance. To which it can be said that he only opened the talk page for [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=35209 her]. Then later I closed [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=35550 it] for [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Seiyena&diff=prev&oldid=26060 abuse]. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 19:18, 19 May 2023 (UTC) | * Seiyena is a difficult case, she has caused quite a bit of disruption cross-wiki, besides, she has already had many opportunities on this Test Wiki. I am taking a '''neutral stance''' on it. Should it be decided that she may be unblocked, <s>this does seem to me to be the very last chance</s>. Anyway, I think one of the current stewards should make the decision, since Dmehus already gave her a chance. To which it can be said that he only opened the talk page for [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=35209 her]. Then later I closed [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=35550 it] for [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Seiyena&diff=prev&oldid=26060 abuse]. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 19:18, 19 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
:Also, another note, specifically to {{ping|Dmehus}} It's definitely fine to at least me to impose a CONDUNBLOCK, or to lift it independently of community discussion if Seiyena agrees to certain conditions. Process this block appeal as you want, being sure to still make time for other things. TL;DR: '''Support any way of handling this''', if they are given a (perhaps last) chance at reintegration into the community, as the block does not appear to be preventing much, if any disruption based on behavior elsewhere. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC) | :Also, another note, specifically to {{ping|Dmehus}} It's definitely fine to at least me to impose a CONDUNBLOCK, or to lift it independently of community discussion if Seiyena agrees to certain conditions. Process this block appeal as you want, being sure to still make time for other things. TL;DR: '''Support any way of handling this''', if they are given a (perhaps last) chance at reintegration into the community, as the block does not appear to be preventing much, if any disruption based on behavior elsewhere. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
* '''Proposed terms of conditional unblock.''' It looks like '''''most''''' of the participants here are in favour of some form of a conditional unblock, so I think we can move forward with proposed terms. For starters, and to be abundantly clear, I've seen some user(s) mention a "final unblock," I am never in favour of a "final chance" unblock. Rather, what I ''am'' in favour of is strict terms under which the user may be unblocked and reblocked as necessary. Any reblock [[rfc:2119|should ''not'']] be a final block, either, but rather, to ensure Stewards' and, where applicable, the community's time are not wasted, I believe it's important to specify the minimum timeframe before subsequent appeals are considered. | * '''Proposed terms of conditional unblock.''' It looks like '''''most''''' of the participants here are in favour of some form of a conditional unblock, so I think we can move forward with proposed terms. For starters, and to be abundantly clear, I've seen some user(s) mention a "final unblock," I am never in favour of a "final chance" unblock. Rather, what I ''am'' in favour of is strict terms under which the user may be unblocked and reblocked as necessary. Any reblock [[rfc:2119|should ''not'']] be a final block, either, but rather, to ensure Stewards' and, where applicable, the community's time are not wasted, I believe it's important to specify the minimum timeframe before subsequent appeals are considered. | ||
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:* '''[[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]]'s agreement (signature and timestamp); a bureaucrat-sysop can please copy over from their [[User talk:Seiyena|user talk page]], linking to the [[Special:Diff|diff]] there in the wikitext of this page ''and'' an edit summary:''' | :* '''[[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]]'s agreement (signature and timestamp); a bureaucrat-sysop can please copy over from their [[User talk:Seiyena|user talk page]], linking to the [[Special:Diff|diff]] there in the wikitext of this page ''and'' an edit summary:''' | ||
:*: I have read the conditions of the proposed unblock and agree to them. [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 23:58, 20 May 2023 (UTC) copied per [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Seiyena&diff=prev&oldid=26933 this diff] by [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:49, 21 May 2023 (UTC) | :*: I have read the conditions of the proposed unblock and agree to them. [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 23:58, 20 May 2023 (UTC) copied per [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Seiyena&diff=prev&oldid=26933 this diff] by [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:49, 21 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
:*:: Dear, [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] I agree with you, and am now also ''against a last chance'' and have therefore crossed out my comment above. I find the proposals reasonable and agree with them. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 09:24, 21 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
== [[User:X|X]]'s request for stewardship == | == [[User:X|X]]'s request for stewardship == | ||
