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::Consensus in favor of extending the (non-steward/sysadmin) inactivity period to 3 months. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User: | ::Consensus in favor of extending the (non-steward/sysadmin) inactivity period to 3 months. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 22:58, 6 May 2022 (UTC) | ||
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Instead of having your access to the admin tools after 1 month goes by without activity, why not just have it be 3 months instead? I'd say that 1 month is a bit too short, and I'm not sure how one month would be enough of a reason. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 13:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC) | Instead of having your access to the admin tools after 1 month goes by without activity, why not just have it be 3 months instead? I'd say that 1 month is a bit too short, and I'm not sure how one month would be enough of a reason. --[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 13:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
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:Pinging {{ping|Dmehus|p=}}. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC) | :Pinging {{ping|Dmehus|p=}}. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 10:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
::Can't admins edit the filters themselves? I know that on another wiki that was possible. Just saying. [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC) | ::Can't admins edit the filters themselves? I know that on another wiki that was possible. Just saying. [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:::Filters with restricted actions (namely, blocking) can only be edited by Stewards. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User: | :::Filters with restricted actions (namely, blocking) can only be edited by Stewards. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:It would actually be <code>page_id != 702</code>, since this is an equality check. Also, it's generally good practice to surround any negation that isn't a single function with parentheses, like so: <code>!('x' in y)</code> — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User: | :It would actually be <code>page_id != 702</code>, since this is an equality check. Also, it's generally good practice to surround any negation that isn't a single function with parentheses, like so: <code>!('x' in y)</code> — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
== In regards to [[User:Piccadilly|User:Seiyena]]. == | == In regards to [[User:Piccadilly|User:Seiyena]]. == | ||
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::This has already been addressed, by another user. I strongly loathe any sort of 'community block' for [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], even marginally good-faith users. Block, CheckUser, rinse, and repeat has been tried, and I'm not keen to go back there, at least not ''yet''. This is a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]-managed affair, and I did suggest it might've been ''too soon'' to grant bureaucrat. In any case, I'm going to work on having [[User: | ::This has already been addressed, by another user. I strongly loathe any sort of 'community block' for [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]], even marginally good-faith users. Block, CheckUser, rinse, and repeat has been tried, and I'm not keen to go back there, at least not ''yet''. This is a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]]-managed affair, and I did suggest it might've been ''too soon'' to grant bureaucrat. In any case, I'm going to work on having [[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] deploy the Miraheze global abuse filter to mitigate this. I don't believe an indefinite suspension of bureaucrat; I would rather manage this a month at a time. If bureaucrat revocation is required, I'll do that. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
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:Noting that the aforementioned abuse filter has been deployed. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User: | :Noting that the aforementioned abuse filter has been deployed. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 01:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
== Lift protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] == | == Lift protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] == | ||
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::{{Done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/31337|Done, at least temporarily]]}}, [[User: | ::{{Done|[[Special:Redirect/logid/31337|Done, at least temporarily]]}}, [[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] et al., chiefly since [[Test Wiki:Interface administrators|interface administrator]] granting and revocation has since been restricted to Stewards for mainly security purposes, but ''do'' note we reserve the right to reinstate [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]] protection for this high impact CSS interface page depending on if [[w:WP:BEANS|BEANSey]] things happen. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
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Could the steward-only create protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] be removed? I'm trying to deploy some styles to get the {{tl|mbox}} series of templates properly working. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User: | Could the steward-only create protection on [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] be removed? I'm trying to deploy some styles to get the {{tl|mbox}} series of templates properly working. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 01:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
: {{Support}}. I also thought the other day I was going to work with styles, but it was blocked. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 13:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | : {{Support}}. I also thought the other day I was going to work with styles, but it was blocked. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 13:44, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
: {{Support}} I think the limitations on the MediaWiki:common page are; must be granted bureaucrat permits [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 09:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC) | : {{Support}} I think the limitations on the MediaWiki:common page are; must be granted bureaucrat permits [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 09:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
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@[[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]]—Courtesy ping if you have ideas. Thanks. —[[User:3PPYB6|3PPYB6]] ([[User talk:3PPYB6|talk]]) 16:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | @[[User:Kazrok4545|Kazrok4545]]—Courtesy ping if you have ideas. Thanks. —[[User:3PPYB6|3PPYB6]] ([[User talk:3PPYB6|talk]]) 16:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:This is the result of the filter filtering for the <code><nowiki><br></nowiki></code> tag, which is a very common indicator of spam. This is actually unnecessary (already in another filter), so I've removed it and extended the exempted groups. {{ping|Kazrok4545}} I've temporarily disabled the filter pending clarification on its intent, were you intending to do something akin to [[Special:AbuseFilter/88|filter 88]], or was this intended to be an addition to [[Special:AbuseFilter/52|filter 52]]? — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User: | :This is the result of the filter filtering for the <code><nowiki><br></nowiki></code> tag, which is a very common indicator of spam. This is actually unnecessary (already in another filter), so I've removed it and extended the exempted groups. {{ping|Kazrok4545}} I've temporarily disabled the filter pending clarification on its intent, were you intending to do something akin to [[Special:AbuseFilter/88|filter 88]], or was this intended to be an addition to [[Special:AbuseFilter/52|filter 52]]? — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 20:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
::Sorry, I forgot to switch off this filter. It was created for testing. It is advisable to add these words to filter 52. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 12:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC) | ::Sorry, I forgot to switch off this filter. It was created for testing. It is advisable to add these words to filter 52. — Regards, [[U:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''Kazrok4545'''''</span>]] [[UT:Kazrok4545|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms ;color:Blue;">'''''<small>Talk</small>'''''</span>]] 12:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
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:I see no problem if there are at least two non-steward users who can modify that filter. [[:wikipedia:Oligarchy|Oligarchy]] is not really a nice way to work, especially in wikis. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 17:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC) | :I see no problem if there are at least two non-steward users who can modify that filter. [[:wikipedia:Oligarchy|Oligarchy]] is not really a nice way to work, especially in wikis. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 17:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
::Currently, filters with restricted actions (i.e. block, rangeblock, and degroup; though the later two aren't enabled at all here) can only be edited by Stewards. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User: | ::Currently, filters with restricted actions (i.e. block, rangeblock, and degroup; though the later two aren't enabled at all here) can only be edited by Stewards. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 15:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:::I know. I'm waiting for [[Test Wiki:Community portal/06#Filter #52|this]]. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 20:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC) | :::I know. I'm waiting for [[Test Wiki:Community portal/06#Filter #52|this]]. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 20:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
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Hi, can I please get my name changed to Bastrop? Thanks! [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:16, 30 April 2022 (UTC) | Hi, can I please get my name changed to Bastrop? Thanks! [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 19:16, 30 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:{{ping|Piccadilly}} Pings will only work if you add your signature in the same edit in which you add the ping. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User: | :{{ping|Piccadilly}} Pings will only work if you add your signature in the same edit in which you add the ping. — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 13:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC) | ||
Now I realize I messed up the ping yet again lol. Trying this again. {{ping|MacFan4000}} or {{ping|Dmehus}} Thanks! [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 08:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC) | Now I realize I messed up the ping yet again lol. Trying this again. {{ping|MacFan4000}} or {{ping|Dmehus}} Thanks! [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 08:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC) | ||
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*I felt he/she archived too early given that the matter is still ongoing and controversial. So I reverted archiving and explained that at [[User talk:想舞花]]([[Special:Diff/22648]]). | *I felt he/she archived too early given that the matter is still ongoing and controversial. So I reverted archiving and explained that at [[User talk:想舞花]]([[Special:Diff/22648]]). | ||
*想舞花 made same edits using S871bot(it had bot flag). | *想舞花 made same edits using S871bot(it had bot flag). | ||
*I believed that this is clearly abuse of bot account. About a month ago, [[User: | *I believed that this is clearly abuse of bot account. About a month ago, [[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] told him not to make non-bot actions([[Special:PermaLink/21783#Your usage of the bot flag]]). So I [[Special:Redirect/logid/special:Redirect/logid/32111|revoked bot's permission]] and [[special:Redirect/logid/32110|blocked the bot]](with autoblock disabled). I notified that on '''[[User talk:想舞花]]''' and asked him/her not to revert the action([[Special:Diff/22652/22656]]). | ||
*想舞花 refused to explain reasons for bot account's action([[Special:PermaLink/22690#Archiving RFP]], [[Special:PermaLink/22696#i will not abuse my bot.]]) | *想舞花 refused to explain reasons for bot account's action([[Special:PermaLink/22690#Archiving RFP]], [[Special:PermaLink/22696#i will not abuse my bot.]]) | ||
*想舞花 removed [[Special:PermaLink/22690#Archiving RFP|#Archiving RFP]] section saying "不回答任何关于机器人的问题,如果你有机器人的问题,请发送信息给User:S871,谢谢!", removed blocking for bot and regranted admin, bot rights saying "Situation resolved". | *想舞花 removed [[Special:PermaLink/22690#Archiving RFP|#Archiving RFP]] section saying "不回答任何关于机器人的问题,如果你有机器人的问题,请发送信息给User:S871,谢谢!", removed blocking for bot and regranted admin, bot rights saying "Situation resolved". | ||
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== Rename account == | == Rename account == | ||
I changed my name to "Chrs" over on Miraheze a while ago, could it please be renamed here too? — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User: | I changed my name to "Chrs" over on Miraheze a while ago, could it please be renamed here too? — <span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Arcversin]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 18:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
: {{Done}} [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 00:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC) | : {{Done}} [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 00:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC) | ||