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==Proposal: Abolish the non-steward suppressor right==
==Grace periods==
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::{{done}} [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 19:27, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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One of my pet peeves is that people are establishing the grace period for users' rights too early. People should wait a little longer to do it so that the day of the new grace period and expiration date are close to each other. Thus, I might revert the grace period that was added to [[User:London|London]]'s rights earlier today, despite the expiration date being entirely correct, but too far from today. But, with grace periods (PLUS CORRECTIONS) comes an [[Special:Log/rights|extremely clogged log]] so likely I won't this time.

Now that I think about it, I will probably retire from doing grace periods soon (most likely today), and I will try notifying users about their rights differently, via their talk pages two weeks before supposedly But this idea isn't final. [[User:Tsukushi|Tsukushi]] ([[User talk:Tsukushi|talk]]) 21:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
:We've had this system for a while and it's both fair and useful. No reverts should be made unless a Steward agrees with the decision, as up until now there have been no issues. [[User:Sav|Sav]] β€’ ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 01:43, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:I think we should add a section to the inactivity policy about grace periods (how long they should be, when they should be set, etc.) I don't think we should retire the practice, as it's quite useful to both bureaucrats and users having their rights removed. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:33, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

On second thought, never mind. I going to stick with the practice as I still enjoy doing/using it. And about the inactivity policy, I agree. [[User:Tsukushi|Tsukushi]] ([[User talk:Tsukushi|talk]]) 16:44, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

===RFC: Adding a section to the inactivity policy on grace periods===
I propose that the following section be added to the inactivity policy: "Grace periods are an optional way of enforcing this policy. Grace periods involve making the inactive user's rights expire in 2 weeks when they would have otherwise been removed in 2 weeks. It adds extra notification to the inactive user, who can always change their rights back." [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{support}}: This explains it all. [[User:Tsukushi|Tsukushi]] ([[User talk:Tsukushi|talk]]) 00:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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==[[User:Kiteretsu/RequestSolver|RequestSolver]]==

Hi.Everyone, I've keeping on here a proposal of RequestSolver using on the permission page and community portal for marking request manually as done, not done, already done and on hold.etc, I've feel happy if known to what think about this proposal of others users for this proposal.Happy testing ---''<span style="background:#7B68EE;border:1px solid #FF00FF;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:#FFD700">kΓ­tΡ”rΡ”tΡ•u</span>]]β€’[[User talk:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:#00FA9A">[@pΓ­ng mΡ”]</span>]]</span>'' 05:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

==Retirement==

Since my work is neither recognised or even accepted of, and also because no one wants to give me a chance, I feel compelled to stop my work here... As system administrator, I could have done a lot of work... However, since I was already rejected there and told to become a steward first... So I wanted to do this, and?

PS: If I really wanted to harm this project, I would have done it long ago! [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:I'm sorry. Your contributions are valued. They always have been. Nobody thinks you're going to harm the project, there are just already 2 active stewards, which people think is enough. I sincerely hope you come back soon! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

==Request for edit==

Please mark on the [[MediaWiki:Gadget-MassRollback.js]] gadget page (using a comment (<code>//</code>) at the top of the script), that I am its author. User Xaloria copied my script from PTW ([https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/Gadget:MassRollback]) without my knowledge. Although it is not protected by copyright, I would like to be listed as the author :). Ping for recently active IA: @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], @[[User:Kiteretsu|Kiteretsu]], @[[User:TheAstorPastor|TheAstorPastor]]. Best regards, [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 18:54, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you for the notification! This will be done. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:01, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 19:02, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

==CentralAuth==
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::Per Justarandomamerican, this is {{Not done}}. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 02:38, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
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I've suggested it in the past (I think), and I'm gonna suggest it again, but creating a second wiki, maybe testwikibeta or something, and having centralauth would allow for a lot more testing, and I think it would be good, I've looked into it and CA isn't *incredibly* hard to install, so I think it's possible. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 18:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

:I mean in all honesty I think it would be cool to eventually add a couple more wikis onto the site for testing and writing some content. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 18:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
::ZB, though this would be nice, neither MacFan nor I have the technical expertise to install the extension. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:50, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], there's a guide for installing createwiki/managewiki that a mirahezian wrote, which also covers installing CentralAuth [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Waki285/Install_CreateWiki_and_ManageWiki_on_your_wiki here], and I've done it before and am happy to provide assistance should problems occur. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 20:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
::::{{not done|Rejected}} for not being necessary and consuming too much time. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 21:26, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] -- re not being necessary, I think it would be good for adding testing, and re taking too much time, it takes about 30 minutes, the majority of work is in localsettings.php, and wouldn't take longer than an hour or two to complete at most. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 06:59, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::This would have been helpful if TestWiki was hosting one or more TestWikis, but there is only one.. So, why do we need to add CentralAuth for a single TestWiki, I don't think it can be of any use to TestWiki and we should not try to make TestWiki a Wikipedia.Happy testing!---''<span style="background:#7B68EE;border:1px solid #FF00FF;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:#FFD700">kΓ­tΡ”rΡ”tΡ•u</span>]]β€’[[User talk:Kiteretsu|<span style="color:#00FA9A">[@pΓ­ng mΡ”]</span>]]</span>'' 16:29, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Kiteretsu|Kiteretsu]], my point is we could either branch out and provide other wikis, or create a second wiki for testing CentralAuth. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 17:44, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I'm opposed to this idea, one test wiki is good enough and as mentioned on discord centrelauth would be restricted which will make it untestable to users. [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 19:25, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Just stopping by to lay out my thoughts on this:
:::::::::TestWiki should be committed to providing the best place to test the most amount of MediaWiki tools possible. Central Auth is a pretty integral part of many large Wikis and farms. Hence, allowing users to test its functions would be useful.
:::::::::I have heard some good points though: We don’t have a second wiki, it’s unneeded, it’s hard to install, etc.
:::::::::I would personally suggest that, if we were to implement this concept, that we could create a second wiki that is completely locked from editing, with a home page that describes its purpose is to simply be a second wiki for Central Auth testing.
:::::::::I don’t quite understand the logic of it being unnecessary. If we can provide a place to test tools other testwikis don’t have, that’s a huge positive. I do, however, understand the technical issue of actually installing it. Our two current SAs don’t have the time or ability to install it and I doubt they would be willing to allow a non-system admin install it.
:::::::::So in conclusion: If it is technically feasible, I {{s}}. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 19:43, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Re the second wiki, it could be used as beta for testing extensions before deploying them to prod. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 19:44, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::Hi. Points taken. However, there isn't anything to test in CA that wouldn't have to be restricted to Stewards beyond simply viewing local accounts. As such, this is {{not done|rejected}}. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:33, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] I am sorry, but @[[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] is the global system administrator for Miraheze and a third-party SA for Wikimedia, so I am confused as to why MacFan4000 isn't capable of doing so. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 09:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::My mistake! MacFan has said in the past on phabricator that he doesn't have the expertise to do so, so I assumed that was also the case today. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 10:27, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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==Tailsultimatefan3891's sockpuppets==
Considering that Tailsultimatefan3891 has now been unblocked for a while, should I remove all of the sockpuppets from [[:Category:Test Wiki sockpuppets of Tailsultimatefan3891|this category]] and have them unblocked as well? [[User:Tsukushi|Tsukushi]] ([[User talk:Tsukushi|talk]]) 06:28, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

:I don't see why we would unblock sockpuppets, but keeping the main unblocked seems fine. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 12:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

==Require 2FA for highly privileged groups==
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I'm proposing that we should require 2FA for Interface Admin, Steward and Sysadmin group members as security precautions, as IAs can edit pages that would allow them privilege escalation, and stewards/sysadmins can give such permissions out which could cause issues if their accounts were compromised. Additionally, I think bots with admin/iadmin perms should have 2FA required as they are probably less monitored security wise. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 10:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

:& it should probably be required for AFAs [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 10:46, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{o}}: We haven’t had any issues with accounts with elevated permissions being compromised. If the community trusts them to hold the permissions, than they can also be trusted to make sure their account is secure. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 11:10, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{o}}: I don't see a reason to add it since the rate of accounts being compromised has been vary low --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 14:24, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{oppose}} There hasn't been a case where an account was compromised, so I don't see any reason to make 2FA mandatory [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 16:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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==Name Change Request==

Hi, can my name please be changed to Skiyomi? (to match my Wikimedia name) Thank you! [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 19:54, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

:Going to go ahead and mark this as {{not done}}. Renaming would cause additional confusion, especially given the extraordinary circumstances that apply to you. Additionally, you [[Test Wiki:Community portal/Archive 10#Rename Request: Piccadilly to Fullegente|requested a rename in March]] saying "This will be my last rename request here." [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 19:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
::I can understand the concern about confusion, and I do accept this decision. But what "extraordinary circumstances" do you mean? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 20:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Your history as an LTA and no warning (straight block) upon abuse. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 22:32, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

==RFC: Remove Inactivity Clause==
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:: {{done}} More than three weeks have passed since the discussion began.With three votes in support and only one in opposition, I am closing this discussion and removing the clause from the policy. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 10:15, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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The current [[Test Wiki: Inactivity policy| Inactivity policy]] states that "These [Steward or system administrator] rights may be restored within 1 hour of them being removed; otherwise, a reconfirmation vote will be held."

If a user holding this level of advanced permissions has been inactive for six months, a one hour request-back, without community input, does not make a lot of sense. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 19:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

===Discussion===
*{{s}} as requester. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 19:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
*:Just a clarification: I am proposing removing the clause completely; they would have to re-RfS. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 00:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
*{{comment}} instead of a one-hour reconfirmation request, does one who lose their advanced permission must run through another community vote? [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] πŸ€” [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 15:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
*:I think they should if they want to regain their rights [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 15:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
*{{o}} 1 hour is a bit short, but I feel 24 hours is more reasonable. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 15:55, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
*:Not sure you understand the purpose of this request. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 00:47, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
*::I do, I feel that if you've been inactive, within 24 hours it's perfectly reasonable to request them back. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 08:01, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
*{{Support}}, agree with proposal. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 16:22, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
*I guess one hour makes no sense, due to the fact that no one can be 24/7 online. That's why I {{s}} this request. --[[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] 17:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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==Rename request==

Please change my username and my bot ([[User:PB08-bot|PB08-bot]]) to Bosco and Bosco-bot respectively, thanks. [[User:Bosco|PB2008]] ([[User talk:Bosco|talk]]) 12:57, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:This is now {{on hold}} awaiting Steward decision - you should receive a response soon. [[User:VancityRothaug|VancityRothaug]] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]]) 16:28, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{done}}. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 17:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

==Internal error==

The following error is displayed when visting [[Newsletter:Administrators' newsletter]]


This was already partly discussed in the Test Wiki Discord server, and I'm ultimately bringing it up here as a proposal for the community to comment on.


Simply, I'd like to propose abolishing [[Test Wiki:Suppressors|non-steward suppressors]] on this wiki. We currently have two such users, me being one of them, but ultimately at this time, there is really not much need. There are mainly two factors to this, which I will be listing here.
[ba26798e8f169f81e1f6821f] /wiki/Newsletter:Administrators%27_newsletter MWContentSerializationException: The Newsletter content is invalid.
#The amount of suppressions, and especially suppression requests, are already low to this date. Except for two suppressions this month (one performed by me and the other by a steward), the last 50 suppressions date back to July last year, most of which were either reverted, performed as tests or performed for old edits/log entries.
#The community is too small, and not large enough to justify having independent suppressors or checkusers. On a wiki as small as this one, it is likely best to center the suppression task to the stewards, both since they already are experienced with CU/OS and personal information, and considering that they have already been the ones mainly handling suppressions on this wiki either way. This would also be a benefit for the security aspects as well, even if compromises are indeed rare here.


Potentially, the community could consider to instead elect new stewards with the inactivity of Dmehus and decreased activity of Justa and MacFan, but in the current state, there isn't really a need nor a community large enough to justify having NSS at this time, and I therefore propose to instead center this task to the stewards. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 13:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Backtrace:


*{{support}} - as proposer. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 13:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
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:{{support}} <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 13:38, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
I believe since PB2008 has been renamed recently and he was a subscriber of the newsletter - his account needs to removed from the list ; kindly look at this similar [[phab:T102|error]] reported at phabricator [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 20:51, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{support}} [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 08:00, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}} -[[User:C1K98V|<b style="color:#FF0000">''C1K98V''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:C1K98V|πŸ’¬]] [[Special:Contribs/C1K98V|βœ’οΈ]] [[Special:ListFiles/C1K98V|πŸ“‚]])</sup> 02:32, 2 April 2025 (UTC)


==Nomination of [[User:EPIC]] for Stewardship==
:pinging @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] and @[[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] as they are Sys admins [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 20:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::Fixed [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 22:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC)


As with the NSS removal, this was already partly discussed in the Test Wiki Discord server and I would like to officially create this nomination here on the community portal. I am hereby nominating [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] for a stewardship here on Test Wiki. I believe that they have shown extreme dedication to all the hats they hold both on Test Wiki and other, notable wikis and that they would be a perfect fit to help oversee the administration of Test Wiki, alongside with the other 3 stewards. As many of you may know, EPIC is also a steward on Wikimedia which I find to be a great achievement, further improving his experience. Please let me know if you have any other questions in the discussion below. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 08:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
==Requesting permissions removal from TenWhile6==
:I stated it in the Discord server as well so I will partly repeat that here; I'm willing to serve if the community and current stewards are in favor of it, since I could bring some further useful experience and extra help especially now that Dmehus is not currently active and two of the other stewards have decreased activity. One of the stewards have expressed their endorsement beforehand, so I'm ultimately accepting. I shouldn't have a big issue with keeping up my activity either, though I'll otherwise resign if I end up not meeting my expected activity levels.
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:Noting for transparency that I'm currently a steward for the Wikimedia projects as well as a sysop on the Swedish Wikipedia and Meta (and a CheckUser on the latter). [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 08:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
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::I am assuming [[WP:AGF|good faith]] in this caseβ€”that [[User:VancityRothaug]] made this request with the right intentions. However, it’s important to understand that we do not remove rights from users simply because we believe they might not use them in the near future. Rights are removed only if users meet the criteria outlined in the [[TW:IP|inactivity policy]]. Since reinstating rights to an account is considered a logged-in action, the user is considered active. I encourage VancityRothaug to carefully review [[User:TheAstorPastor/Admins|the list]] showing users’ most recent logged actions and to apply grace periods only after thoroughly checking the dates of those actions. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 18:03, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Dear community, I hope this request finds you all well. On the 9th December I have filed a inactivity grace period against @[[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] for being inactive for a period of 2 months, and set their rights to expire in 2 weeks, when the inactivity would reach 3 months as per the inactivity policy. The user has proceeded to make their rights permanent 3 minutes after the grace period notification was left on their talk page. Upon checking their user contributions I have seen that the user has received a grace period warning on the 23rd September, to which they responded wishing to keep their roles however after checking the users contributions further I have noticed that they have not edited '''at all''' since their reply to their first grace period notice. From my point of view, I believe this user is not showing any intent to use his permissions in the near future therefore I am beginning this community vote to have the users permissions removed. [[User:VancityRothaug|VancityRothaug]] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]]) 17:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)


===Support===
:You may read the [[Test Wiki:inactivity policy]] again. ''no edits or logged actions within the last three months'' means that your actions on 9th december ([https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=56269] and [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=56271]) were a clear violation of the policy, because my last logged action was [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=56054 on 6th december]. I know you are pretty new here, sysop since two weeks, but please try to be more careful.
#{{Support}} as nominator. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 08:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
:As an explanation why I am not really active here: I am an active member of the wikimedia community, currently serving as a global sysop and sysop in two wikis. Sometimes I need to test things and thats the exact moment when I need my permissions here, that's why I want to keep them and why I will clearly use these permissions in the future. [[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] 17:09, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
#{{support|strong}} Irrespective of the NSS removal proposal, EPIC is a clearly suitable candidate, and will definitely help this wiki. Highly trustworthy. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 08:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} sure, good luck! [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 19:26, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
#{{support|strongest}} [[User:Paflidy|Paflidy]] ([[User talk:Paflidy|talk]]) 00:45, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} Good luck! [[User:Sav|Sav]] β€’ ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} Keep up the good work. -[[User:C1K98V|<b style="color:#FF0000">''C1K98V''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:C1K98V|πŸ’¬]] [[Special:Contribs/C1K98V|βœ’οΈ]] [[Special:ListFiles/C1K98V|πŸ“‚]])</sup> 02:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} [[User:Bosco|Bosco]] ([[User talk:Bosco|talk]]) 08:51, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{support}} [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 09:11, 2 April 2025 (UTC)


===Discussion===
===Abstain===
*{{s}} as requester. [[User:VancityRothaug|VancityRothaug]] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]]) 17:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
*I will not "vote" here, because I am obviously involved. But imo this is not backed up by any policy, as explained above. I am an active member of the [[m:User:TenWhile6|Wikimedia Community]] and there is basically no reason to make this complicated. This is a test wiki and I could literally request the permissions again, if they get removed. This request is one of the funniest and most unnecessary things that happend to me this year. --[[User:TenWhile6|TenWhile6]] 17:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
::This is nonsensical and completely against the wiki’s goal and purpose. {{not done}} [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 17:50, 10 December 2024 (UTC)


===Oppose===
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==IA changes==
== Request for Rename ==
Hello.


In response to my [[Test Wiki:Request for permissions#BZPN|request]] for Interface Administrator rights, I have been asked (by @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]]) to provide a list of at least three planned changes for review by other Interface Administrators. Below are the changes I intend to implement:
Hello, I would like to request that this account be renamed to Alachuckthebuck, my username on wikimedia projects. [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Alachuckthebuck&oldid=971206504| link to userpage]. [[User:0hD33r!|0hD33r!]] ([[User talk:0hD33r!|talk]]) 00:14, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
#In MediaWiki:Gadget-UserInfo.js, I plan to fix the electionadmin display so that it includes a link to [[TW:EADMIN]]. Additionally, the links in the script currently redirect to the title in the user's language instead of the correct translation of the page. I will fix this issue.
:{{done}} by [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] (log id 56662) <span style="font-family:Courier New;font-weight:bold;text-shadow:1px 1px 1px cyan">[[User:Tester|Tester]]</span> ([[User_talk:Tester|α΄›]]β€’[[Special:Contributions/Tester|α΄„]]) 15:01, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
#The Twinkle gadget does not function at all. I intend to replace its content to load via mw.loader.load.
#I would like to convert my script for finding unused pages and files into a gadget.
#I plan to update my MassRollback gadget to a newer version.
#Similar to Twinkle, I would also like to replace the content of MediaWiki:Gadget-RedWarn.js to load via mw.loader.load, as it does not currently work properly.


I welcome any feedback or additional suggestions from the community. Best regards, [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 19:57, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
== Delegated rights and the [[TW:IP|inactivity policy]] ==


:LGTM. Per my comments on Discord, I don’t have any concerns regarding your knowledge or skill with IA tools, simply curious why you were socking on Miraheze. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#0F69B3;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 21:25, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
Currently, for rights that are very high trust and delegated from Stewards or the community (such as NSS and AFA), those rights can be re-requested at any time. I would propose removing that clause, but I would like to hear the ideas of others: What should happen if a person holding one of those rights loses them due to inactivity and then re-requests them? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:05, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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Proposal: Abolish the non-steward suppressor right

Latest comment: 02:325 comments4 people in discussion

This was already partly discussed in the Test Wiki Discord server, and I'm ultimately bringing it up here as a proposal for the community to comment on.

Simply, I'd like to propose abolishing non-steward suppressors on this wiki. We currently have two such users, me being one of them, but ultimately at this time, there is really not much need. There are mainly two factors to this, which I will be listing here.

  1. The amount of suppressions, and especially suppression requests, are already low to this date. Except for two suppressions this month (one performed by me and the other by a steward), the last 50 suppressions date back to July last year, most of which were either reverted, performed as tests or performed for old edits/log entries.
  2. The community is too small, and not large enough to justify having independent suppressors or checkusers. On a wiki as small as this one, it is likely best to center the suppression task to the stewards, both since they already are experienced with CU/OS and personal information, and considering that they have already been the ones mainly handling suppressions on this wiki either way. This would also be a benefit for the security aspects as well, even if compromises are indeed rare here.

Potentially, the community could consider to instead elect new stewards with the inactivity of Dmehus and decreased activity of Justa and MacFan, but in the current state, there isn't really a need nor a community large enough to justify having NSS at this time, and I therefore propose to instead center this task to the stewards. EPIC (talk) 13:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Support ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:38, 30 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
 Support VancityRothaug (talk + contribs) 08:00, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
 Support -C1K98V (πŸ’¬ βœ’οΈ πŸ“‚) 02:32, 2 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Nomination of User:EPIC for Stewardship

Latest comment: 09:1110 comments9 people in discussion

As with the NSS removal, this was already partly discussed in the Test Wiki Discord server and I would like to officially create this nomination here on the community portal. I am hereby nominating EPIC for a stewardship here on Test Wiki. I believe that they have shown extreme dedication to all the hats they hold both on Test Wiki and other, notable wikis and that they would be a perfect fit to help oversee the administration of Test Wiki, alongside with the other 3 stewards. As many of you may know, EPIC is also a steward on Wikimedia which I find to be a great achievement, further improving his experience. Please let me know if you have any other questions in the discussion below. VancityRothaug (talk + contribs) 08:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

I stated it in the Discord server as well so I will partly repeat that here; I'm willing to serve if the community and current stewards are in favor of it, since I could bring some further useful experience and extra help especially now that Dmehus is not currently active and two of the other stewards have decreased activity. One of the stewards have expressed their endorsement beforehand, so I'm ultimately accepting. I shouldn't have a big issue with keeping up my activity either, though I'll otherwise resign if I end up not meeting my expected activity levels.
Noting for transparency that I'm currently a steward for the Wikimedia projects as well as a sysop on the Swedish Wikipedia and Meta (and a CheckUser on the latter). EPIC (talk) 08:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Support

  1.  Support as nominator. VancityRothaug (talk + contribs) 08:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
  2.  Strong support Irrespective of the NSS removal proposal, EPIC is a clearly suitable candidate, and will definitely help this wiki. Highly trustworthy. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
  3.  Support sure, good luck! BZPN (talk) 19:26, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
  4.  Strongest support Paflidy (talk) 00:45, 1 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
  5.  Support Good luck! Sav β€’ ( Edits | Talk ) 19:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
  6.  Support Keep up the good work. -C1K98V (πŸ’¬ βœ’οΈ πŸ“‚) 02:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
  7.  Support Bosco (talk) 08:51, 2 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
  8.  Support LisafBia (talk) 09:11, 2 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Abstain

Oppose

IA changes

Latest comment: Yesterday at 21:252 comments2 people in discussion

Hello.

In response to my request for Interface Administrator rights, I have been asked (by @Justarandomamerican) to provide a list of at least three planned changes for review by other Interface Administrators. Below are the changes I intend to implement:

  1. In MediaWiki:Gadget-UserInfo.js, I plan to fix the electionadmin display so that it includes a link to TW:EADMIN. Additionally, the links in the script currently redirect to the title in the user's language instead of the correct translation of the page. I will fix this issue.
  2. The Twinkle gadget does not function at all. I intend to replace its content to load via mw.loader.load.
  3. I would like to convert my script for finding unused pages and files into a gadget.
  4. I plan to update my MassRollback gadget to a newer version.
  5. Similar to Twinkle, I would also like to replace the content of MediaWiki:Gadget-RedWarn.js to load via mw.loader.load, as it does not currently work properly.

I welcome any feedback or additional suggestions from the community. Best regards, BZPN (talk) 19:57, 1 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

LGTM. Per my comments on Discord, I don’t have any concerns regarding your knowledge or skill with IA tools, simply curious why you were socking on Miraheze. X (talk + contribs) 21:25, 1 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
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