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| | The name of the userRightsManager gadget has changed, so some users may have the tick turned off. It may be necessary to re-enable it in [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets|the preferences]]. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 13:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC) |
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| ==Rename request for Administrator== | | ==Systemadministrator== |
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| | It would be really nice to get a chance 🙂 [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 16:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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| [[User:Administrator|Administrator]] ([[User talk:Administrator|talk]]) 14:32, 27 March 2023 (UTC) | | :Did you know how to use Git, PHP, and SSH, and you are active on this wiki? Please see [[Project:System administrators]]. Also, it would be really nice for you to be a system administrator if you know understanding of Apache and a server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:00, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| :{{Done}} Apologies for the delay, been busy with other stuff. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 00:36, 12 May 2023 (UTC) | | ::I already work with Linux Debian since 4 years! So yes 🙂 [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| ::Thanks! [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:53, 12 May 2023 (UTC) | | :::Are you aware that this very high trust permission can cause great damage if it's improperly used? [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 17:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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| | ::::I am aware of this! Yes [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| Hello! In this template the image is not displayed, I tried to fix it via [[Module:TNT]] but I don't understood what I need to change. Could you see it please? Thanks! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 07:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
| | :::::So, voting by the two stewards and by some users is required. If the votes are successful, then it goes to the system administrator to grant the permission or not. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| :This has now been fixed. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 00:52, 12 May 2023 (UTC) | |
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| Please install [[mw:Extension:ReplaceText|ReplaceText]]. [[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 01:29, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
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| == Drummingman for stewardship == | | ====Support==== |
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| I notice that the stewards of this wiki are busy in real life. Steward requests like 'usernames renames' have to wait a long time. I think that is why there is a need for a third steward. Meanwhile, I became an admin on [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=63242835#Drummingman_(2) nlwiki] a big Wikipedia site six months ago and gained quite a bit of experience there. I have experience with revdel requests and already know well when suppression is appropriate. As for checkuser, I have little experience with it - testing with it is also not really possible because of privacy. I would use it only when it is really necessary; think of situations like [[User_talk:Tailsultimatefan3891#Blocked|this]]. I would like to help the stewards manage the site and help where needed. Furthermore, I hope for your trust? | | ====Oppose==== |
| Greetings [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 16:13, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
| | *{{Oppose|Weak Oppose}} Hi, thanks for volunteering. Unfortunately, I must weakly oppose your request at this time due to lack of necessary trust or track record. I do not think you would take the site down, abuse your power in some other way, or go inactive suddenly, but you do not hold Stewardship here or administratorship elsewhere, and you don't have that long of a track record, so I cannot be sure. Consider this a moral support of sorts; I have no objection to another run in the medium-term future. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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| | *:Like I said, I'd be happy to get a chance, and if you don't think I would abuse my power (which I wouldn't too), then what's the problem? [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| * He meets all the requirements to be a Steward. It is also active and reliable. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 17:30, 15 May 2023 (UTC) | | *::This permission is very powerful, can lock the database and have access to PHP, SSH, Git, and Github and even Apache and the server (MariaDB/MySQL/PostgreSQL/SQLite). [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| | *::System administratorship is a very powerful position. I prefer to err on the side of caution. Can you describe your previous experience with FiveM and Minecraft servers? Do you have PHP experience? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| | *:::For the networks, I installed and configured web applications and Minecraft plugins [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| | *{{oppose}} Hi, nice that you signed up and want to get more involved, I can only appreciate that. But unfortunately, here and for this reason, I want to cast my dissenting vote. I am very reluctant to assign this role to someone I don't know well. Anyway, are you already a system administrator, steward or admin on a major wiki project somewhere? On a Wikimedia, Miraheze or other large wikifarm. On these wikis, you become one only after a thorough review and vote. To me, that is a hard requirement for a system administrator. SA has the unlimited power to shut down an entire wiki (database lock and unlock) block anyone and deny or grant anyone user rights. Therefore, this right can only be granted to highly trusted users. Of course, this is separate from the technical side, which is also important. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 17:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| | *{{oppose|Strongly oppose}} It doesn't make much sense to give a user who has been a member for less than 1 month a higher level of authority than even the stewards such as the system administrator. You need to have 3 or more months of activity history. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 18:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| | *:Nowhere does it say anything about that... So... And is it so difficult to give someone a chance? [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 18:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
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| * completely supported for this request. [[User:Antonius6317nlwiki|Antonius6317nlwiki]] ([[User talk:Antonius6317nlwiki|talk]]) 10:37, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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| * Trusted and experienced user, Drummingman can help as steward. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 17:21, 16 May 2023 (UTC) | | *{{Neutral}} Used Linux Debian and may be trusted, but I don't know if completely trusted. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| *Why not? Trusted and helpful. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:33, 19 May 2023 (UTC) | | *:I would be! I have already system-administered around 20 Minecraft and FiveM networks! Sure, this has nothing to do with MediaWiki itself, but it's about the principle! As I said, I would be happy to get a chance [[User:Justman10000|Justman10000]] ([[User talk:Justman10000|talk]]) 17:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| *Procedurally, just to make sure it's valid. But it feels uncomfortable to vote for yourself. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 16:02, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
| | *::Possibly some enhanced trust would be needed. Try to think when you become a system administrator. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 17:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC) |
| *:I agree, but it appears people have done it in the past, looking through archives. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 16:05, 19 May 2023 (UTC) | |
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| *'''Neutral'''. I agree that there is a high need and that you are definitely a qualified candidate, but I don't think you're active enough. For example, you haven't granted a permissions request in ~3 months and you have only 45 edits in the past 3 months. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *:Dear, X as for granted permissions, you are right that I haven't done that often in the past 3 months, [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Test%20Wiki:Request%20permissions&diff=26395&oldid=26393 mostly] you were ahead of me:) consider that a compliment. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 20:11, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *::I understand, but I would still like a steward to be a bit more active. I am definitely not opposing your request, I actually hope it succeeds, I just prefer to be neutral for now. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 20:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *:::Thanks for your opinion and volunteering. 45 edits in 3 months on this small test wiki is still quite a lot, most users, especially bureaucrats and stewards don't make it. :-) For the rest, you are always free to make your own considerations. Greeting, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 21:06, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *::::I disagree. I would consider myself semi-active on this wiki and I have over 300 edits in the past 3 months. I wish you luck in your request for stewardship. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:24, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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| 1. How will you treat people when you are elected as Steward?
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| :'''R:''' Thank you for your questions. I will treat people as kindly and politely as I have so far. And offer any explanation and help if they ask. Until proven otherwise, I will assume [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume good faith]] as much as possible. Because Test Wiki is, after all, a test wiki, for administrators tools. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 18:34, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :'''R:''' I will only use it in situations such as, removing personal information, copyright infringement, serious personal attacks or other grossly offensive material, as also indicated [[Test_Wiki:Suppress|here]]. Furthermore, I will use my common sense and handle it carefully. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 18:34, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :'''R:''' Dear X, I am an [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciaal:Gebruikersrechten&uselang=en&user=Drummingman administrator] on the Dutch Wikipedia. In addition, I have several other [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Drummingman (global) rights] on Wikimedia. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 18:27, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :'''R:''' Seiyena is a difficult case, she has caused quite a bit of disruption cross-wiki, besides, she has already had many opportunities on this Test Wiki. I am taking a neutral stance on it. Should it be decided that she may be unblocked, this does seem to me to be the very last chance. Anyway, I think one of the current stewards should make the decision, since Dmehus already gave her a chance. To which it can be said that he only opened the talk page for [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=35209 her]. Then later I closed [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=35550 it] for [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Seiyena&diff=prev&oldid=26060 abuse]. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 19:06, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| Hello, I would like to appeal my block here again, as more time has passed since my last appeal and in that time I have not evaded my Miraheze ban and I haven't been on IRC at all (not that I remember ever being inappropiate there but I just wanted to note that lately I haven't even been online there). In addition, I have been active on another test wiki called For-Test Wiki where I have been very careful to obey all the rules here. I would like to be unblocked here so I can show that I have changed, and I hope that by continued good behavior on various wikis, it will eventually help me in re-entering Miraheze. Thank you for your consideration. [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 22:49, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :: {{Ping|X}} {{Ping|Seiyena}} - Seiyena cannot appeal until Mac and/or Dmehus decides she can. Any future appeal, as previously stated, shall be denied. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 09:05, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :::In a comment above, Sav, you mentioned that when the stewards or bureaucrats felt I was ready, I can appeal. I can't find anything that says only a steward can decide when I can appeal. Since a bureaucrat, X, thought I was ready, I think this appeal is valid, though I do understand that a steward does need to give permission before I can be unblocked. [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 11:40, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :::I'd also like to note that nowhere was it said that permission for an appeal to simply be posted was required by a Steward, TPA was recently regranted due to the minimal chance of disruption with it, and a genuine interest in improving and appealing. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 20:51, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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| ::*There’s no “clear” stewards decision that “Appealing requires stewards authorization”. MacFan4000’s TPA revocation was lifted by Dmehus, and latest TPA revocation was set by Drummingman, who is bureaucrat. Though I think X should have had discussion to whether to lift TPA block in Drummingman‘s talk or community portal, X’s decision wasn’t clear violation on rules here.
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| ::*Considering her behavior before blocking, her words means almost nothing to me. She did lie, break promises/policies, not just once. Regarding “For-test wiki”, if she has behaved good enough to believe she can do that here then I can consider, but as I don’t know what that is and I couldn’t find it, I can’t take it in consideration. Should anyone provide link, I’ll take a look.
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| ::*As such, I neither support nor oppose this appeal for now. But I strongly believe Dmehus should'''n’t''' decide this without community consensus(cf.[[:w:WP:INVOLVED]]). If Dmehus do that and Seiyena causes trouble again, I may hold his accountable.—-[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 07:20, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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| ::::Thank you for your comments. For your convenience, here is a link to For-Test Wiki. http://fortestwiki.myht.org/index.php/Main_Page [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 07:56, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :<s>I am not a steward, but as a bureaucrat and the one who allowed your TPA, I am declining this request. I am an active user on Miraheze where I have just seen Apex/Seiyena evade their ban twice. This shows they haven’t changed and are unable to be trusted here again. I am not revoking TPA quite yet in case the user has some response to the accusations that needs to be heard. If this talk page is abuse, I will revoke access to it immediately. Seyiena, I honestly thought you had changed, but your block evasion and abuse on Miraheze shows me you haven’t. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:02, 17 May 2023 (UTC)</s>
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| :::I can honestly say that I have not evaded my block on Miraheze for several months (last time in January). I really am trying to change my behavior on wikis. I don't know what you saw that makes you think I'm evading my Miraheze lock again but I promise that I'm not the one doing those things. [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 01:27, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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| ::::How do you explain [https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralAuth&target=Ap̃èxAgùnomùApexAgunomu this], [https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralAuth&target=HelloThisIsApex this], and [https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralAuth&target=This%20is%20My%20Kingdom%20Cum this]? The edits are also similar to your past behavior. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:36, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :::::My only guess is that somone else made those accounts with my name for whatever reason. I'm not in the habit of using sexual terms in my names, and if I'm being perfectly honest, I wouldn't put my known name so boldly if I were trying to evade, as I would want to try to avoid detection. As for why those accounts are behaving similarly to me, again I honestly don't know. But I swear none of those are me. [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 01:45, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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| ::::::I am honestly not sure if I believe you or not. When For-Test Wiki is back online, would you consent to a check to see if you did or didn’t operate the Benium, Denium, and similar accounts to prove trust? [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:50, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :Yes, I consent to a checkuser on myself at For-Test Wiki. I hope it's back soon. [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 01:53, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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| ::Evidence has show that the user hasn’t evaded their block, as such, I have struck my comment. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 02:19, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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| : '''Procedural comment:''' I have been in communication with Seiyena since March on IRC and encouraged them to articulate an appeal, via their user talk page, and be sure to specify conditions under which they may be reblocked and by ''whom'' should they violate their own conditions and, crucially, their time for minimum appeal. I apologize to [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] for my delay in following up here, but I will aim to review this community discussion together with their appeal on their user talk page this weekend. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:11, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
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| ::From Seiyena on their talk page: -First Instance: Removal of Permissions for 2 weeks (which may be enforced with a block from the Request Permissions page)
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| ::-Second Instance: Block by any admin, bureaucrat or steward (either timed or indefinite, will leave to discretion, but preferably with talk page access on)
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| ::I am also willing to accept any conditions that may be placed on my being unblocked. [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 11:49, 20 May 2023 (UTC). Transferred by [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]).
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| '''I have brought this to the community portal so that the community can discuss an unblock as our stewards are inactive. Please comment below your opinions on unblocking [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]].''' [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 13:25, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *'''Support unblock.''' User has shown they can be trusted on for-test wiki. We could start out that any permissions above administrator require community approval. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 13:27, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *'''Oppose unblock.''' Seiyena has been given countless chances, even after Dmehus has given them a last chance. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 07:53, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *:I can definitely understand your point of view. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 10:12, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *::{{Ping|X}} May I ask if you have looked into the previous history of Seiyena? If you have, I would like to know why you are supporting their unblock request given their bad faith behaviour. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 12:04, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *:::Yes, I have definitely looked at their history. I wouldn't have started this without looking at their history. I am saying that the user has changed. There is no doubt that this user has misbehaved in the past, I am definitely not denying that. I am saying that the users behavior has changed. As a steward on For-Test Wiki, I can say that the user's behavior has significantly improved. They have edited constructively and never vandalized since we unblocked them. People can change, and I am inclined to assume good faith that this user has too. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 12:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *'''Accept appeal''': People change, and based on their current behavior elsewhere, I am inclined to assume that a block/ban is not necessary to prevent further disruption. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| * Seiyena is a difficult case, she has caused quite a bit of disruption cross-wiki, besides, she has already had many opportunities on this Test Wiki. I am taking a '''neutral stance''' on it. Should it be decided that she may be unblocked, this does seem to me to be the very last chance. Anyway, I think one of the current stewards should make the decision, since Dmehus already gave her a chance. To which it can be said that he only opened the talk page for [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=35209 her]. Then later I closed [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=35550 it] for [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Seiyena&diff=prev&oldid=26060 abuse]. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 19:18, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :Also, another note, specifically to {{ping|Dmehus}} It's definitely fine to at least me to impose a CONDUNBLOCK, or to lift it independently of community discussion if Seiyena agrees to certain conditions. Process this block appeal as you want, being sure to still make time for other things. TL;DR: '''Support any way of handling this''', if they are given a (perhaps last) chance at reintegration into the community, as the block does not appear to be preventing much, if any disruption based on behavior elsewhere. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
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| Hello All, I am X, an active administrator and bureaucrat on testwiki.wiki. I have been here for a little over 2 months and I believe I can help perform steward actions when they are requested. I think our community needs multiple active stewards at all times and currently we have 0. If the above request for stewardship is successful, then we would have 1. I believe we need a steward team, which is more than 1. I believe I can assist there because when I requested a rename it took over a month because our current stewards are busy on other projects. I have performed all rights requests since my account was created. I have also performed all inactivity removals. Each of these I have performed appropriately. With steward tools, particularly suppression and checkuser, I understand how they work and can use them well. I will use oversight to hide personal information and extreme threats. With checkuser, I will investigate the IPs of accounts and LTA. I have access to both of these tools on another testwiki, [http://fortestwiki.myht.org/index.php/Main_Page For-Test Wiki] (same username). I believe there is a need and, because I am qualified, I thought it correct to apply. Feel free to ask me questions below. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:19, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *{{oppose}} There is no need for you to have Steward. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 12:05, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *:[[User:Sav|Sav]], this is a valid !vote, but could you clarify a bit why you feel this way? Similar to my question to Drummingman, is it based on fundamental ''need'' (or lack thereof) for additional stewards, or do you have concerns with regard to the candidate's experience, qualifications, activity level, or commitment level? I've known you for awhile now and I might ''assume'' what you are inferring, but I'm also not a mindreader and that's generally not a good practice. Thanks. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:07, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *:I am fine with you opposing, but can you please explain why you don't think there is no need for me to have steward. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 13:14, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *{{support}}: Sav does not make a convincing argument: By what standard does X not need the Steward tools? There are 2 current stewards, both of which are not reasonably active enough to handle community problems. There is no reason not to trust X: They are competent, helpful, and all around trustworthy. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 12:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *:Lolkikmoddi also does not make a convincing argument, as X is clearly trustworthy, and the time they've been here does not reduce that, especially because they've been here for 3 months. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:22, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *{{Neutral}} -- X is a steward at another wiki and therefore trustworthy. But prefer to vote neutral. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 21:10, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *:[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]], you have identified that you feel the user is trustworthy, presumably, at least in part, based on the user holding a presumably comparable position on any wiki, but could you articulate why you are neutral? Is it based on fundamental necessity for additional stewards, or not, do you have some reservations (neutral or otherwise)? [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:07, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *:: The reason is that I also see [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Euphoria&oldid=26877 edits] on this wiki that I don't expect from a steward. "Copied from talk page". ''Re-instated but changed to 15 day grace period to line up with June 3rd. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 13:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)'' Reducing an admin period from indefinite to 2 weeks when the 3 months are not yet up, is neither friendly nor polite in my opinion. I had [https://testwiki.wiki/index.php?title=Test%20Wiki:Community%20portal&diff=prev&oldid=26878 changed] my vote from support to neutral when I saw that. But I don't think it's enough to oppose it because there are too few stewards, I kindly ask X to be more careful in the future. Maybe at a later time I will possibly be willing to support it. But for now, neutral. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 06:29, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *:::What is wrong with setting grace periods? Their rights will be removed on June 3rd and now I have notified them that their rights have changed. When someone changes your rights, for me at least, I get an email. So by setting a grace period, I am effectively notifying them before their rights will be removed. This has brought multiple users back to activity on multiple Test-wikis. I don’t see a problem with it. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 11:16, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *{{oppose}} you just passed 3 months, please wait a little more then just one day then asking for stewardship which is very hard to get, maybe a few more weeks then i'll consider supporting [[User:Lolkikmoddi|Lolkikmoddi]] ([[User talk:Lolkikmoddi|talk]])
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| *:If I am aware, there isn't a time limit since account creation to become a steward. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 14:26, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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| *'''Procedural''' {{support}} as requestor. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 14:44, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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Weak Oppose Hi, thanks for volunteering. Unfortunately, I must weakly oppose your request at this time due to lack of necessary trust or track record. I do not think you would take the site down, abuse your power in some other way, or go inactive suddenly, but you do not hold Stewardship here or administratorship elsewhere, and you don't have that long of a track record, so I cannot be sure. Consider this a moral support of sorts; I have no objection to another run in the medium-term future. Justarandomamerican (talk) 17:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Neutral Used Linux Debian and may be trusted, but I don't know if completely trusted. Tailsultimatefan3891 (talk) 17:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
