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==Tailsultimatefan3891's sockpuppets==
==Tailsultimatefan3891's sockpuppets==
Considering that Tailsultimatefan3891 has now been unblocked for a while, should I remove all of the sockpuppets from [[:Category:Test Wiki sockpuppets of Tailsultimatefan3891|this category]] and have them unblocked as well? [[User:Username|Tsukushi]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 06:28, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Considering that Tailsultimatefan3891 has now been unblocked for a while, should I remove all of the sockpuppets from [[:Category:Test Wiki sockpuppets of Tailsultimatefan3891|this category]] and have them unblocked as well? [[User:Renamed user 159304387|Tsukushi]] ([[User talk:Renamed user 159304387|talk]]) 06:28, 29 October 2024 (UTC)


:I don't see why we would unblock sockpuppets, but keeping the main unblocked seems fine. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 12:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
:I don't see why we would unblock sockpuppets, but keeping the main unblocked seems fine. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 12:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, can my name please be changed to Skiyomi? (to match my Wikimedia name) Thank you! [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 19:54, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi, can my name please be changed to Skiyomi? (to match my Wikimedia name) Thank you! [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 19:54, 19 November 2024 (UTC)


:Going to go ahead and mark this as {{not done}}. Renaming would cause additional confusion, especially given the extraordinary circumstances that apply to you. Additionally, you [[Test Wiki:Community portal/Archive 10#Rename Request: Piccadilly to Fullegente|requested a rename in March]] saying "This will be my last rename request here." [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 19:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
:Going to go ahead and mark this as {{not done}}. Renaming would cause additional confusion, especially given the extraordinary circumstances that apply to you. Additionally, you [[Test Wiki:Community portal/Archive 4#Rename Request: Piccadilly to Fullegente|requested a rename in March]] saying "This will be my last rename request here." [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 19:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
::I can understand the concern about confusion, and I do accept this decision. But what "extraordinary circumstances" do you mean? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 20:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
::I can understand the concern about confusion, and I do accept this decision. But what "extraordinary circumstances" do you mean? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">My Messages</span>]]) 20:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Your history as an LTA and no warning (straight block) upon abuse. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 22:32, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Your history as an LTA and no warning (straight block) upon abuse. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 22:32, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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==Test page policy==
==Test page policy==
{{Discussion top|This policy was proposed in February, and there has been no activity for over a month. The policy is unnecessary, as the proposer themselves noted {{tq|that [the] test pages rarely come up}}. This proposal may be reconsidered for a vote in the future if its necessity is justified, but for now, it fails. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 18:35, 16 March 2025 (UTC)}}
{{Discussion top|This policy was proposed in February, and there has been no activity for over a month. The policy is unnecessary, as the proposer themselves noted {{tq|that [the] test pages rarely come up}}. This proposal may be reconsidered for a vote in the future if its necessity is justified, but for now, it fails. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 18:35, 16 March 2025 (UTC)}}
I propose this to you all, the [[User:Faithful/Sandbox|test page policy]]. I know it's not a lot, but I believe that users should at least do it in an organized manner when it comes to testing. This policy is saying everything I should be telling you all here, but I'm giving it a chance to be read by you all to see if it is worthy of being a policy. [[User:Faithful|Faithful]] ([[User talk:Faithful|talk]]) 23:55, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
I propose this to you all, the <s>[[</s>User:Renamed user 58678/Sandbox|test page policy<s>]]</s>. I know it's not a lot, but I believe that users should at least do it in an organized manner when it comes to testing. This policy is saying everything I should be telling you all here, but I'm giving it a chance to be read by you all to see if it is worthy of being a policy. [[User:Renamed user 58678|Faithful]] ([[User talk:Renamed user 58678|talk]]) 23:55, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
*{{oppose|Weak oppose}}, seems very unnecessary. We almost never have new test pages added, and if someone disagreed with one being added, they could simply just propose it be removed on the CP. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#0F69B3;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 23:56, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
*{{oppose|Weak oppose}}, seems very unnecessary. We almost never have new test pages added, and if someone disagreed with one being added, they could simply just propose it be removed on the CP. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#0F69B3;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 23:56, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
**I see your point on the process of adding new test pages. This makes the process pointless from your POV because there could be someone who opposes it and has that page removed via the community portal. However, now I'm starting to believe that mainspace page creation should be restricted to a specific group level, so that users will not fill it with spam or vandalism, except on the abuse filter test. But primarily, because of the test pages. For now, since your point makes sense for the activity period of Test Wiki right now, which is that test pages rarely come up, I'll put it to the side. However, I do believe that users should properly do their test experiments on the right testing page. Hence, if you want to test deletion, go to [[Deletion test]]; if you want to test protection, go to [[Protection test]], and so forth. That should be a policy. [[User:Faithful|Faithful]] ([[User talk:Faithful|talk]]) 01:10, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
**I see your point on the process of adding new test pages. This makes the process pointless from your POV because there could be someone who opposes it and has that page removed via the community portal. However, now I'm starting to believe that mainspace page creation should be restricted to a specific group level, so that users will not fill it with spam or vandalism, except on the abuse filter test. But primarily, because of the test pages. For now, since your point makes sense for the activity period of Test Wiki right now, which is that test pages rarely come up, I'll put it to the side. However, I do believe that users should properly do their test experiments on the right testing page. Hence, if you want to test deletion, go to [[Deletion test]]; if you want to test protection, go to [[Protection test]], and so forth. That should be a policy. [[User:Renamed user 58678|Faithful]] ([[User talk:Renamed user 58678|talk]]) 01:10, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
:{{oppose}} per X. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 14:35, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
:{{oppose}} per X. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 14:35, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
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==Proposal: Abolish the non-steward suppressor right==
{{Discussion top|There is unanimous and clear consensus to abolish the non-steward suppressor (NSS) role going forward. While the original proposal called for immediate removal, Drummingman's suggestion—to allow the current NSS, namely [[User:X|X]], to retain their rights—received clear support. As such, X will retain their rights until they either resign or are appointed as a steward. No new NSS appointments will be made. This proposal is therefore closed as successful, with Drummingman's amendment adopted. [[User:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span>]] ([[User talk:TheAstorPastor|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A">''talk''</span>]]) 15:09, 7 April 2025 (UTC)}}

This was already partly discussed in the Test Wiki Discord server, and I'm ultimately bringing it up here as a proposal for the community to comment on.

Simply, I'd like to propose abolishing [[Test Wiki:Suppressors|non-steward suppressors]] on this wiki. We currently have two such users, me being one of them, but ultimately at this time, there is really not much need. There are mainly two factors to this, which I will be listing here.
#The amount of suppressions, and especially suppression requests, are already low to this date. Except for two suppressions this month (one performed by me and the other by a steward), the last 50 suppressions date back to July last year, most of which were either reverted, performed as tests or performed for old edits/log entries.
#The community is too small, and not large enough to justify having independent suppressors or checkusers. On a wiki as small as this one, it is likely best to center the suppression task to the stewards, both since they already are experienced with CU/OS and personal information, and considering that they have already been the ones mainly handling suppressions on this wiki either way. This would also be a benefit for the security aspects as well, even if compromises are indeed rare here.

Potentially, the community could consider to instead elect new stewards with the inactivity of Dmehus and decreased activity of Justa and MacFan, but in the current state, there isn't really a need nor a community large enough to justify having NSS at this time, and I therefore propose to instead center this task to the stewards. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 13:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

*{{support}} - as proposer. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 13:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
*:Just for the record I would also be fine with Drummingman's suggestion to let current NSS keep the rights. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 05:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{support}} <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 13:38, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}} [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 08:00, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}} -[[User:C1K98V|<b style="color:#FF0000">''C1K98V''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:C1K98V|💬]] [[Special:Contribs/C1K98V|✒️]] [[Special:ListFiles/C1K98V|📂]])</sup> 02:32, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}} - However, my opinion is that the current two NSSs may retain their rights until they become stewards or resign, and that no new NSSs will be appointed. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 19:05, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}} Per Drummingman [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 08:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
:{{support}} Drummingman’s alteration to the proposal. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#0F69B3;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 10:08, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
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==Nomination of [[User:EPIC]] for Stewardship==
{{Discussion top|'''There is a clear, unanimous consensus to promote EPIC to steward. On behalf of the steward-team, congratulations.''' [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 14:09, 7 April 2025 (UTC)}}

As with the NSS removal, this was already partly discussed in the Test Wiki Discord server and I would like to officially create this nomination here on the community portal. I am hereby nominating [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] for a stewardship here on Test Wiki. I believe that they have shown extreme dedication to all the hats they hold both on Test Wiki and other, notable wikis and that they would be a perfect fit to help oversee the administration of Test Wiki, alongside with the other 3 stewards. As many of you may know, EPIC is also a steward on Wikimedia which I find to be a great achievement, further improving his experience. Please let me know if you have any other questions in the discussion below. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 08:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
:I stated it in the Discord server as well so I will partly repeat that here; I'm willing to serve if the community and current stewards are in favor of it, since I could bring some further useful experience and extra help especially now that Dmehus is not currently active and two of the other stewards have decreased activity. One of the stewards have expressed their endorsement beforehand, so I'm ultimately accepting. I shouldn't have a big issue with keeping up my activity either, though I'll otherwise resign if I end up not meeting my expected activity levels.
:Noting for transparency that I'm currently a steward for the Wikimedia projects as well as a sysop on the Swedish Wikipedia and Meta (and a CheckUser on the latter). [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 08:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

===Support===
#{{Support}} as nominator. [[User:VancityRothaug|'''<span style="background:#000000;color:#ffffff;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">VancityRothaug</span>''']] ([[User talk:VancityRothaug|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/VancityRothaug|contribs]]) 08:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
#{{support|strong}} Irrespective of the NSS removal proposal, EPIC is a clearly suitable candidate, and will definitely help this wiki. Highly trustworthy. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold">[[User:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">~/Bunny</span><span style="color:#2c5282">pranav</span>]]:&lt;[[User talk:Bunnypranav|<span style="color:#63b3ed">ping</span>]]&gt;</span> 08:16, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} sure, good luck! [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 19:26, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} Good luck! [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:15, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} Keep up the good work. -[[User:C1K98V|<b style="color:#FF0000">''C1K98V''</b>]] <sup>([[User talk:C1K98V|💬]] [[Special:Contribs/C1K98V|✒️]] [[Special:ListFiles/C1K98V|📂]])</sup> 02:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{s}} [[User:Bosco|Bosco]] ([[User talk:Bosco|talk]]) 08:51, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{support}} [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 09:11, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
#{{support|strong}} Very trusted user and Steward on 2 wikifarms [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 08:48, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

===Abstain===

===Oppose===
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