Test Wiki:Community portal/Archive 2

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Rename request

Could a steward please rename me into CrazyFisherman? Thanks. --Morneo06 (talk) 23:36, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Morneo06 Do you intend to use the username CrazyFisherman for the long-term, and is this part of a synchronization of your username across other wiki farms/wikis? Dmehus (talk) 21:35, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I entend to use it for a long term but it is not part of any synchronization. --Morneo06 (talk) 07:37, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good. I'll ping MacFan4000. Dmehus (talk) 21:12, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 22:00, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I have a question. Templates like this are necessary? They are not used on any page, as this is not Wikipedia. It seems to me that the appropriate thing would be to delete these types of templates. What do you think? LOCO 🔥 07:48, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

They are orphaned, if nobody opposes, feel free to delete the templates. ~ Ronja (u • t • c) 10:08, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Can my name be changed please?

I'd like my name here to be changed to Seiyena please. Thank you! Fiona (talk) 01:55, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Can this be done? I like the name Seiyena more than Fiona because it seems more unique. Fiona (talk) 20:08, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 17:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Adding Archive Header to Test Wiki:Request for permissions

Hello all, Currently i added an Archive Header for all archived Pages Current Version of /header, Posted to just let you know for censuses. Thank you 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 11:52, 26 September 2021 (UTC) just need some help with Main Page button cuz it does not work properly

and i can't fix it for now thank you 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 12:21, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

 Done NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 17:21, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Restriction of Administrator rights

Hello everyone I want to explain something important to the community, it's about verification and Users who should or shouldn't have the right of admin, as for testing we already know this is a Test wiki where you can Test administrator actions, I would like to ask should we recklessly give Admin and bureaucrat right to anyone without confirming if they're Known users on Wikipedia?, I think we should ask them to confirm their account on Meta to know whether they get to benefit from using MediaWiki Tools or just for Fun. what do you think?

Thanks 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 17:26, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

 Comment:This issue may be against of privacy, while I'd like to say some of them may not be really well-famed Wikipedia users.Pavlov2 (talk)

 Reply i am not saying we should not give i am saying we just have to install the verification level to know about the Person we give those Rights, Because we don't know if the User is Vandal or Constructive, my Request is nothing but installing a level of verifiably that shows user's Account on Meta or other websites account. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 14:35, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

 Reply Even though they may be LTAs on metawiki or cross-wiki, you couldn't said they aren't come here for learning how to build castles in sandboxs as students. And some of them really don't want other known their account on Meta, for several reasons.Pavlov2 (talk) 00:09, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

 Reply ok let's hear other's opinion about that, thank you for the interest 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 01:33, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

I don't think it is necessary or has any advantages to ask for meta confirmation. There was a proposal about restricting bureaucrat rights some months ago which wasn't successful. –CrazyFisherman (talk) 22:05, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

@千村狐免:,please take a look of this change.

@千村狐免:,please take a look of this change.

Pavlov2 (talk) 10:35, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

@Pavlov2:What?--千村狐免 ^msg 12:27, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

 Comment:I don't think the administrator's authority should be restricted, even if it is the long-term abuse of meta-wiki or cross-wiki.--千村狐免 ^msg 12:40, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

discussion closed i withdraw.🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 12:22, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Request Desysopped for Kapol1234 and a checkuser for sockpuppets

USER:Kapol1234 misused his administrator tools and blocked me wrongly said I'm using sockpuppets. But I can make a promise that these account such as Pavlov3 and MCC214 is definitely not controlled by me. Thus I came here to request for a desysopped for Kapol1234 and a check user between This account, Pavlov3, MCC214 and Kapol1234 himself.@MacFan4000: Pavlov2 (talk) 08:35, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

@MacFan4000:, In addition, I will be appreciate if you or other Steward could take a look of Kapol1234's log of using administrator tools. Much thanks.Pavlov2 (talk) 08:36, 11 October 2021 (UTC) @Sakura emad:Pavlov2 (talk) 08:44, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

These sockpuppets is not controlled by me , and l think it is controlled by Pavlov2 , because he had using sockpuppets before in Uncyclopedia , lf you check the sockpuppets and my account , please check Pavlov2 same.Kapol1234 (talk) 09:38, 11 October 2021 (UTC)@Sakura emad:@MacFan4000: – Preceding unsigned comment added by a logged out user.

i have no technical abilities to check any user's information. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 13:01, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

@Kapol1234:You should participate in the steward election to obtain Check user rights.--千村狐免 ^msg 12:38, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

This discussion is closed，because the proposal is invalid.--千村狐免 ^msg 12:46, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

@千村狐免:，perhaps not as you said. The Check user rights may be held by Kapol1234 but without check user and said they are my sockpuppets and blocked me may seem as a misuse of administrator tools. For example, a sockpuppet User:MCC214 leaves an attack message even on my talk page.Pavlov2 (talk) 00:11, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

@Kapol1234:@Pavlov2:，Because I think this kind of proposal is disruptive, so I want to close this proposal,And I Think Those Sock puppets Can Duck. --千村狐免 ^msg 04:26, 13 October 2021 (UTC) @Pavlov2:@千村狐免:I repeat again, this sockpuppet is not held my me.Kapol1234 (talk) 10:26, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

@千村狐免:Where can participate in the steward election to obtain Check user rights?Kapol1234 (talk) 10:35, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

@Kapol1234: The CheckUser and Oversight permissions here can only be authorized by Stewards and the system administrator, so the proposal you want to be Checkuser is invalid.--千村狐免 ^msg 09:27, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Confirmed sockpuppets are blocked. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 15:49, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello, @MacFan4000: Pavlov3 and MCC214 are confirmed sockpuppets of Kapol1234? Thank you! AlPaD (talk) 17:37, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes CheckUser has confirmed that they are sockpuppets. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 19:29, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! AlPaD (talk) 05:13, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

CheckUser request

User:Piccadilly is suspected sockpuppet of User:Bugambilia([1] Special:Diff/19566), thanks! AlPaD (talk) 10:34, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

CheckUser shows no connection to other accounts. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 01:47, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

OK, thank you! AlPaD (talk) 18:48, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Critical: Phabricator is down

@MacFan4000: It appears as if Phabricator has stopped working. Trying to load it causes this error message to appear:

PorkchopGMX (on the go) (talk) 15:04, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes I’m aware. It’s not compatible with PHP 8.1. I reported the issue and will likely revert to PHP 8.0 at some point. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 19:08, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Rename request

Hi. Please change my username to Magogre. Thanks! Mazzaz (talk) 13:58, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

pinging @MacFan4000: to complete the request. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 20:59, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 23:31, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Add (interwiki) user right to Bureaucrat

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Withdrawn PorkchopGMX (talk) 14:20, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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Right now, bureaucrats do not have the (interwiki) user right (which allows you to edit Special:Interwiki) but they can grant (and remove) themselves and others an extra user right group (Interwiki admin) to get around this restriction. This is obviously inconvenient, so I suggest we bundle the (interwiki) user right into bureaucrat, and remove it from steward. PorkchopGMX (talk) 01:54, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Support

•  Support as proposer. PorkchopGMX (talk) 01:54, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
•  Support It's a good idea! AlPaD (talk) 12:46, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
•  Support for now. However, some edits to special pages still need to be carefully checked.Pavlov2 (talk) 18:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
•  Support It would be great! C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂)} 06:08, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

•  Oppose –CrazyFisherman (talk) 20:24, 16 December 2021 (UTC) Granting rights is exactly the purpose of the bureaucrat flag; too many rights directly for bureaucrats aren't necessary
  • That is true, however crats (indirectly) already have access to Interwiki through the interwiki admin user right. This proposal eliminates the need for crats to grant themselves a right to edit interwikis. PorkchopGMX (on the go) (talk) 20:47, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
• Weak  Oppose, as it's not really suited to bureaucrats. I suppose this could be added to the sysop toolkit. On the other hand, we may desire users have some higher level of competency. Not really sure what the best approach is here. On the one hand, this would reduce multiple hats being collected. On the other, I'm not certain adding to sysop is the best idea. One other idea might be to have only Stewards grant interwiki administrator? Dmehus (talk) 22:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

  I don't think interwiki needs to be restricted to stewards. Interwiki rights are much less important than import, delete, block, etc. rights. I proposed the right be moved into bureaucrat because that was technically the status quo and therefore it would be the least controversial move. PorkchopGMX (talk) 18:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

  PorkchopGMX, it's not really related to the bureaucrat role, at all, though. That's why I don't support it. For context, the reason why it's restricted to Stewards on Miraheze is because of the potential to have malicious sites bypass the Content Security Policy. So, it's not a completely innocuous right. In this respect, the block and delete user rights are much more innocuous than the interwiki user right; importing can have potential issues, so I'd probably say this would be on par with that, or maybe slightly above even. Above it would be interface administrator. My preference would be to delete a lot of the unneeded user groups that are below the sysop group, and just have one testgroup and maybe autopatrolled and confirmed. The rest could probably be turfed. Dmehus (talk) 01:25, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain

i remain neutral for now| however crats can grant themselves interwiki flag so i don't think it's neccessary; what do you mean by "removing it from steward"?. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 13:15, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

The (interwiki) user right is already included with steward, this proposal would add that right to bureaucrat and remove it from steward (as redundant). PorkchopGMX (talk) 18:27, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

General comments

• Procedurally, this proposal, though good-faith, is invalid as Stewards are the only community-elected, non-test administrators on Test Wiki. As such, the community has no capacity to restrict the steward, or even sysadmin, user group from having full access to the MediaWiki permissions toolkit. It's more than a bit bureaucratic (pardon the unintended pun) for a Steward to have to add a test user group (bureaucrat) to perform a non-test action related to the Interwiki extension. Additionally, what if a user does not want bureaucrat permissions but does want to test the Interwiki extension? I have severe problems with requiring them to request a user group they do not want. I would, however, support amending the policy to require that interwiki administrators have the same level of trust as bureaucrats. Dmehus (talk) 21:59, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Good point. I'll withdraw the proposal because a community vote isn't the best way to solve this issue. PorkchopGMX (talk) 14:18, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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Requesting for import of templates Sockpuppet and Sockpuppeter

Recently some users were blocked due to their abusively using multiple accounts. To avoid these users being unblocked by other users who have sysop right wrongly, I'd like to import these two templates from Enwiki and come here to look for some advice [2][3].

The test page was created on my own sandbox, user:pavlov2/sandbox, but seemed they didn't work correctly. Pavlov2 (talk) 13:30, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Question

Hello. User:Naleksuh is blocked indefinite because blocked in meta wikimedia. This block is incorrect? Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 05:42, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

This block is valid for recent actions on another (non-wikimedia) site. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 12:46, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

OK, thank you! AlPaD (talk) 19:44, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

c:

Could "c:" potentially be used as a valid interwiki to Wikimedia Commons? Requesting here for others' opinions. Hellk77 (talk) 16:09, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Hellk77,  Done. c: is potentially a bit vague, and could refer to Miraheze Commons, but on Miraheze, c: points to Wikimedia Commons, if not mistaken. Dmehus (talk) 04:34, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Dmehus' Request for Stewardship

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 Done, successful MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 16:44, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hi everyone,

Though Test Wiki is hosted on Fosshost (formerly hosted on MacFan4000's cloud-based VPS) and not the Miraheze wiki farm, there's a fair bit of user crossover between Test Wiki and Miraheze users. Indeed, the two stewards and system administrators on Test Wiki are either current or former stewards and/or system administrators on Miraheze. Ostensibly due to real life priorities, not to mention his myriad online activities, Test Wiki has been served, essentially, by only one steward and system administrator in MacFan4000. At the same time, similar to there being a fair bit of crossover between Miraheze and Test Wiki users, there's a fair bit of crossover between Miraheze and Test Wiki LTAs. So, similar to Void, as a Miraheze Steward, I'm seeking election as a Test Wiki Steward, so I can assist with those processes. Obviouusly, my Miraheze commitments, which includes my separate involvement with the MirahezeBots project where MacFan4000 is also a senior developer and bot operator, preclude me from being hugely active on Test Wiki, but this is also by design as I prefer to let Test Wiki bureaucrats gain confidence and experience in actioning permissions requests and tending to obvious vandalism. And, as a very active user in the Test Wiki IRC channel, as well as Miraheze IRC channels, I'm usually just a quick {{ping}} away.

Thanks,
Dmehus (talk) 20:08, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

 Support Trustworthy user and more active than the other stewards. Hellk77 (talk) 21:37, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

 Support Very trusted. AlPaD (talk) 05:17, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

 Support Trusted user, and also Void is about to be removed for inactivity. PorkchopGMX (talk) 14:27, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

 Support competent enough and active user. Thanks C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂)} 15:20, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

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Request for interface-admin

I'd like to deploy the RfP helper gadget that I wrote onto this wiki, which can do things like automatically adding users to MediaWiki:Gadget-markadmins.json. I am the Arcversin from Miraheze/publictestwiki. — Arcversin (talk) 23:54, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Arcversin,  done, with thanks both for your confirmation edit and for extending your volunteerism to Test Wiki. :) Dmehus (talk) 04:16, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Interwiki with wikt:

Hello, could wikt: be used as an active interwiki from here to Wiktionary? Requesting here for others' thoughts. Hellk77 (talk) 17:22, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Should already be an interwiki, ex: wikt:example. — Arcversin (talk) 20:02, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@Arcversin Then why doesn't this work, but this does? They're both interwikis. Hellk77 (talk) 21:25, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

And why doesn't this work either? Hellk77 (talk) 21:25, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@Hellk77: That's because they don't have the "forward" flag enabled (under Special:Interwiki). — Arcversin (talk) 21:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Is it OK if it is enabled, seeing as others are also enabled (like c:)? Hellk77 (talk) 03:24, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

It's fine to enable it, especially if it's already enabled in another prefix. Generally the concern with enabling "forward" is whether the site is trusted enough to assume it's not going to be hosting phishing attacks. — Arcversin (talk) 13:19, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thank you! It's enabled now. Hellk77 (talk) 01:05, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-markadmins.js

Can someone (preferably an IA/S/SA) review my version of the gadget and then merge it? I tweaked it so as to automate the getting process. That being said, if my version is approved, we will no longer have to edit the JSON page manually. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 19:59, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh, though this exceeds my level of JS scripting expertise, this seems reasonable and, looking at your code, there does not seem to be any potential issues. As such, I've
 done this request for you. However, I'd like Arcversin to take a second look, though, making any tweaks/revisions, as required. Also, I know I've asked you to confirm your Miraheze account on Wikimedia, but can you also provide a Wikimedia confirmation edit for your Test Wiki account? Thanks. :) Dmehus (talk) 22:48, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh: @Dmehus: Looking over the new script, it's fine, however there are a few small mistakes in terms of compatibility. MediaWiki only supports ECMAScript 5 (as opposed to 6) in most places (notably, this does not apply to scripts loaded directly from a URL), which means that you need to use the var keyword instead of let, which I've fixed. Also, making use of mw.Api requires that a dependency on mediawiki.api be added in MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition, which has been done. Apart from that, the code works quite well. Do note that it would need an update should TestWiki grow to >500 sysops. — Arcversin (talk) 01:59, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks to Arcversin for the fix, and for Dmehus: metawikimedia:vi:Special:Permalink/66430817. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 16:38, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Inactivity policy

Hello, can you see User talk:Startus#Removal of bureaucrat.? Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 11:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

AlPaD, thank you for your question. Your understanding of Test Wiki:Inactivity policy is the same as mine. Specifically, the one-hour rights readdition clause only applies to Stewards and System Administrators, ostensibly chiefly because those roles require a successful community vote at Test Wiki:Community portal. As to whether someone must wait the standard hold period before readding bureaucrat, I'd say your understanding is also likely correct, but it's also common sense. Provided someone didn't lose their bureaucrat bit for cause or otherwise resign under a cloud of scrutiny, that seems fine. Hope that helps. Dmehus (talk) 03:01, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Dmehus Thank you for your reply. AlPaD (talk) 05:22, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

No problem, happy to have helped. Dmehus (talk) 01:52, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Rename request

Rename my name to Toshiba. Starus (talk) 06:48, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

I gotta admit, I thought you were Startus for a second before I read your talk page. I am one (as you are three) 15:30, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Pinging @MacFan4000: - Tray (Contribs | Message me) 17:13, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Toshiba  Done, per your request and because your good-faith username is confusingly similar with Startus. Please do ensure this username is kept for the very, very long term. Dmehus (talk) 03:46, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Administrator request

Hello, I signed up for this wiki to test the MediaWiki features. Please confirm my request. LisafBia (talk) 01:54, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

• Granted.--Q8j (talk) 05:20, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Please reset my password

I forgot my password, please help me LisafBia (talk) 18:25, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

You should add an email address in your preferences, then request a password reset here. PorkchopGMX (talk) 21:44, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Is this email address invalid?

staff[at]testwiki.wiki seemed to be invalid? Could anyone have a test on it?Pavlov2 (talk) 16:34, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

This should probably be requested on the Test Wiki Phabricator], as it is in scope of the system administrator(s). I'll try and file a request soon. Dmehus (talk) 01:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

@Dmehus:I'm so sorry that I forget my password, I will use this account to communicate with you here.Pavlov2~alternative (talk) 16:08, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Trayfel's Request for Stewardship

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No consensus. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 23:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

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Good morning everyone, hope all is well with you.

I am here, requesting Stewardship rights on the Test Wiki. I believe I am a trusted user, although new; I have made several good-faith edits and contributions towards the site. I am semi-active on the English Wiki and have made several contributions to combating vandalism there. I have a plethora of knowledge about Miraheze and the English Wikipedia as a whole.

I am mainly requesting Stewardship so I can be an aid to @MacFan4000: & @Dmehus: here, on the Test Wiki. As Steward, I would mainly be checking users for socking and renaming users where requested.

Thank you for reading my application. I welcome any criticism, whether it be good or bad.

Cheers, Tray (Contribs | Message me) 10:30, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

 Support I actually thought you were already a steward. I am one (as you are three) 17:32, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

 Support Is very helpful user. AlPaD (talk) 19:39, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Question Do you have a Wikimedia and/or Miraheze account? If so, have you already provided confirmation edits on those wikis of your testwiki.wiki account? If you have, please link to the diffs using an interwiki link. If not, please provide that. Dmehus (talk) 02:22, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi, @Dmehus:. I have updated my userpage to include confirmation. Warmest regards, Tray (Contribs | Message me) 03:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Trayfel, thank you. :) Dmehus (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

 Oppose Thank you, Trayfel, for the properly formatted confirmation edit of your Trayfel account on Wikimedia (though you should still confirm your account on Miraheze as well (especially if it's the same username as on here). Nonetheless, I thank Trayfel for putting their name forward for Stewardship; unfortunately and regrettably, I must oppose this (and not a weak oppose, per the articulated reason). For one thing, your account is barely two months old. Account age, on its own, is not necessarily a prerequisite, but taken together with your confirmed Wikimedia global account having only ~300 global edits in the past twelve months since it's been created, almost all of which are either (a) userspace sandbox edits and/or (b) counter-vandalism remediation on English Wikipedia, I am unable to ascertain your overall technical ability. Additionally, and perhaps more crucially, you have zero (0) patrol log entries on Test Wiki, only three (3) user rights log entries, one of which was an incorrect interpretation of the inactivity policy and correctly overturned by PorkchopGMX. Granted, I will say that Test Wiki:Inactivity policy is, admittedly, a bit unclear, but nevertheless, the preceding in a manner the user thought they were certain they were correct when they were not is at least a bit problematic. Other than a few test blocks, there's really no other edits and log actions to assess the user's understanding of, and ability to apply, our policies, so I am unable to get any real clear sense of that. Finally, the user identified wanting to assist MacFan4000 and I with user renames and checking for sockpuppetry. In terms of the former, there have been only fifteen (15) renames in the preceding six (6) calendar years and, seeing as I have only had to add my checkuser hat in the more than one month since I've been a Steward and since I am also active daily here, in terms of daily review of the community portal, permission requests, and recent changes, I don't feel there's a sufficient rationale here either. It'd potentially be, if I had a better sense of the user's technical and policy-based abilities. Finally, I noted that you've only very recently joined our IRC channel, which I'd also like to have seen you be more active as well. You no doubt seem helpful and constructive, but nevertheless and, as such, this is, as I say, regrettably, at least a bit too soon. Dmehus (talk) 17:03, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, Dmehus. I appreciate your input.Tray (Contribs | Message me) 19:39, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Did you possibly mean not quite yet and not too soon? WP:TOOSOON is about article notability, while WP:NOTQUITEYET is about denial for moderately experienced members. I am one (as you are three) 14:27, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

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Request a desysop for User:Pavlov2 and a permanent lock for that user

Hi, this is Pavlov2, unfortunately, I forgot the password of the previous account. Please desysop it and lock that user. Thanks a lotPavlov2~alternative (talk) 16:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't think a total lock is possible but I can desysop the account and block it for you. Seiyena (talk) 16:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

@Piccadilly: Thanks a lotPavlov2~alternative (talk) 17:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

@Pavlov2~alternative: You can request that your old account be renamed so that you can retrieve your old username. AlPaD (talk) 17:38, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

@AlPaD: thanks a lot, Could I request to change to my old name?Pavlov2~alternative (talk) 17:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Pinging @MacFan4000: & @Dmehus: to handle the rename request.Tray (Contribs | Message me) 03:49, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

We wouldn't likely be able to do this on Miraheze, but potentially, assuming MacFan4000 has no objections, and Pavlov2~alternative agrees to the CheckUser, we could potentially run a CheckUser, then merge and delete the former into the latter account, then rename the merged account to Pavlov2? Dmehus (talk) 05:46, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Removing the chat plugin

Chat extension doesn't work, and I think it should be removed. LisafBia (talk) 15:00, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Seiyena

Hi, I just have one question. If a bureaucrat or admin sees someone making both good edits but also bad ones what do we do if they don't stop after we warn them? Should we try to alert a Steward as soon as possible and just clean up after them until a Steward can handle the situation? I think that maybe giving a short-term block (like one day) might be reasonable while waiting for a steward, just to stop active disruption until the situation can be handled properly. Just wanted to know in case a situation like this comes up again.

Filter #52

@Dmehus: Could you or another Steward please add & page_id == 702 to abuse filter 52, as the second to last line? This would help prevent false positives (which result in no-warning indef blocks) by excluding Test Wiki:Request for permissions from said filter. Also, is there any way for non-Stewards to get edit access to those filters? — Arcversin (talk) 01:29, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Arcversin, sure. My other plan here is to create a non-test abuse filter helpers user group, to be granted by Stewards, that would allow technically capable abuse filter editors to be granted this permission and be able to edit restricted abuse filters. Users may request the permission from a Steward, but should provide some evidence of technical capability in this area. It would be subject to the inactivity policy, and could be revoked if an abuse filter helper either (a) repeatedly made unconstructive changes to restricted abuse filters or (b) otherwise demonstrated to Stewards they either (i) not technically competent or (ii) not trusted. Anyone have any objections to this? Dmehus (talk) 04:02, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

@Dmehus: Not sure how, but I mistyped what should be added, it should be != not ==. As to your latter point, I would support that idea , but I would suggest it be named something other than "helpers", since Wikimedia uses that to refer to read-only access to private filters. — Arcversin (talk) 11:15, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Mind if I suggest something?

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Consensus in favor of extending the (non-steward/sysadmin) inactivity period to 3 months. — Arcversin (talk) 22:58, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

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Instead of having your access to the admin tools after 1 month goes by without activity, why not just have it be 3 months instead? I'd say that 1 month is a bit too short, and I'm not sure how one month would be enough of a reason. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:51, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

@MacFan4000: @Dmehus: Hello! How long will the proposal close? AlPaD (talk) 12:13, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Supports

 Support I like this idea, and can't see any drawbacks to it. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 16:27, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

 Support I think it should be extended. LisafBia (talk) 16:36, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

 Support Per nom. I am one (as you are three) 23:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

 Support I absolutely agree with that! AlPaD (talk) 14:19, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 Oppose We're giving out adminship and 'cratship as if they were candies. Isn't that good enough? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 10:47, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

It's definitely good but it would save bureaucrats some work by not having to re-add user rights so often and also save everyone else the hassle of having to ask for the rights again after just a short one-month hiatus. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 12:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk · contribs) Being honest, revocation of an advanced permission after 1 month just seems too short, and I'd recommend at least 3 months, as it's usually fair, in terms of how we all operate on the Public Test Wiki on Miraheze. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 13:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Neutral

Neutral--S871 (talk) 00:09, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Other Comments

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Should the policy be updated now?

Seeing as this has majority support, should one of the bureaucrats update the policy to reflect the new time? Or do we have to get a Steward's approval for policy changes? Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 14:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

CheckUser request

• User:七海娜娜米2b
• User:七海娜娜米3b
• User:想舞花

These 2 users are blocked intefinite on Chinese Wikipedia and locked on Wikimedia foundation and this action is suspected. Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 16:37, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

@想舞花: Could you explain the reason for this action please? AlPaD (talk) 20:12, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

@AlPaD: I mean: give him permissions other than admin.--想舞花 (talk) 23:19, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

@想舞花: Thanks for reply! AlPaD (talk) 07:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Maybe it's their test account. Also, I don't know why being indefinitely blocked on Wikipedia or globally locked on Wikimedia matters here. My Wikimedia account is globally locked and blocked indefinitely on English Wikipedia, but as long as people behave here, I think they should be welcome here. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 20:16, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

@Piccadilly: I don't think is a test account because he had requested administrator rights, while the test accounts don't need to be requested. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a sockpuppet issue. It's better steward see the issue and let our know if he needs CheckUser. AlPaD (talk) 07:41, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

I saw it again and maybe I was wrong. In the Chinese Wikipedia there are daily blocked for sockpuppetry and 想舞花 was banned from the Wikimedia foundation while 七海娜娜米 wasn't. I know that even if someone is blocked on Wikimedia they can contribute here and sorry if I was wrong. AlPaD (talk) 20:04, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

七海娜娜米2b and 七海娜娜米3b, are technically identical, 想舞花 is not connected to the other two, but the CU results were interesting. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 14:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

@MacFan4000: Thank you! AlPaD (talk) 17:04, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm block they account.--想舞花 (talk) 05:56, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

They had been blocked with autoblock disabled. I've modified block setting and enabled autoblock.--Q8j (talk) 07:32, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Special:AbuseFilter/52

The third line should have been & !page_id == 702. Currently it's checking for spam edits on TW:RFP... NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 10:48, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Pinging @Dmehus. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 10:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Can't admins edit the filters themselves? I know that on another wiki that was possible. Just saying. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Filters with restricted actions (namely, blocking) can only be edited by Stewards. — Arcversin (talk) 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

It would actually be page_id != 702, since this is an equality check. Also, it's generally good practice to surround any negation that isn't a single function with parentheses, like so: !('x' in y) — Arcversin (talk) 01:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

In regards to User:Seiyena.

Noting that the aforementioned abuse filter has been deployed. — Arcversin (talk) 01:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Filter 89

Looks like we're getting a few false positives here; I fixed a typo on an AbuseFilter warning and apparently I was disallowed. See my abuse log for reference.

@Kazrok4545—Courtesy ping if you have ideas. Thanks. —3PPYB6 (talk) 16:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

This is the result of the filter filtering for the <br> tag, which is a very common indicator of spam. This is actually unnecessary (already in another filter), so I've removed it and extended the exempted groups. @Kazrok4545: I've temporarily disabled the filter pending clarification on its intent, were you intending to do something akin to filter 88, or was this intended to be an addition to filter 52? — Arcversin (talk) 20:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to switch off this filter. It was created for testing. It is advisable to add these words to filter 52. — Regards, Kazrok4545 Talk 12:34, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Rename Account

Hi,

Could you please rename my account Videojeux4 to HeartsDo, please.

(Proof: here) Videojeux4 (talk) 04:41, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Pinging @Dmehus: @MacFan4000: AlPaD (talk) 05:51, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

HeartsDo, though I don't likely doubt this to be you, would you mind confirming your Test Wiki account from your Miraheze account? Thanks. Dmehus (talk) 02:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

I know the account to be legit.  Done. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 03:12, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! :p HeartsDo (talk) 16:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Foss

If you go to the bottom of the page it says the wiki is supported by Foss this makes no sense considering they do not allow wikis in the terms of service it says 107.223.89.68 19:52, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@107.223.89.68 This should be in the community portal and not its talk page. I'll move it for you, though. I am one (as you are three) 17:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Actually, I just remembered that IP users cannot edit the community portal. In order to use the community portal properly, you should create an account. I am one (as you are three) 17:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Block Request

Hello, I think it would be good if I took a break from here for a bit. Could someone please block me for a few days, like maybe until May 1? Thank you very much. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 09:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Piccadilly: I am willing to give out the block, on condition that:

1. You agree not to evade your block using sockpuppets.
2. You agree to be hard-blocked (i.e. with autoblock enabled).

NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 10:51, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

I agree to both conditions.Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 11:22, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

You have now been blocked. Enjoy your break. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 11:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Any thoughts on this proposed change to filter 88?

Right now filter 88 is set to simply disallow the action that is trying to be performed. Given the number of recent triggers to that filter, maybe that should be changed to instead issue a 3-day block any time the filter is triggered as well as remove from any special groups like admin or bureaucrat. I think that might make it more effective at its job and also not cause it to be triggered so much. This proposal would need a steward's help to implement if it's approved since it involves adding restricted actions. But I do think this might be beneficial to the target of the filter.

Any thoughts on whether this is a good or bad idea? Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 12:50, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

I see no problem if there are at least two non-steward users who can modify that filter. Oligarchy is not really a nice way to work, especially in wikis. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 17:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Currently, filters with restricted actions (i.e. block, rangeblock, and degroup; though the later two aren't enabled at all here) can only be edited by Stewards. — Arcversin (talk) 15:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

I know. I'm waiting for this. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 20:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Name Change Request

Hi, can I please get my name changed to Bastrop? Thanks! Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:16, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

@Piccadilly: Pings will only work if you add your signature in the same edit in which you add the ping. — Arcversin (talk) 13:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Now I realize I messed up the ping yet again lol. Trying this again. @MacFan4000: or @Dmehus: Thanks! Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 08:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi @MacFan4000: and @Dmehus:, I would still like my name changed to Bastrop, if possible. Thank you. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 13:17, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Proposed amendment to Test Wiki:Bots

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Both proposals fail. No clear consensus. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 22:44, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

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Proposal

It is proposed that Test Wiki:Bots be amended as described at the policy page. The bot flag must not be granted by non-test administrators on Test Wiki permanently. Requests for permanent/indefinite bot flags should be made at Test Wiki:Bot approval requests. Requests should articulate the described particulars, at minimum. Bureaucrats may grant themselves the bot temporarily, for no more than twenty-four (24) hours, provided they state a clear and valid reason in their log summary. Dmehus (talk) 23:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Rationale:

• Provides for consistent approval of indefinitely/permanently-granted bot flags;
• Ensures bureaucrats and administrators are transparently disclosing all edits and log actions; and,
• Provides overall clarity.

Support

•  Support I agree with it. Though I don't oppose it, #Counter-proposal seems bit complicated to me.
  • Still, I'm confused about 1 sentence. "The bot flag must not be granted by non-test administrators on Test Wiki permanently". "non-test administrators" means steward, correct? Must not steward grant permanent bot flag? I'm not good at English, so I may have mistranslated that(I'm terribly sorry if so), but could you recheck that sentence, please?--Q8j (talk) 08:00, 2 May 2022 (UTC) Modify. On second thought.--Q8j (talk) 09:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
•  Support Per nom. I am one (as you are three) 12:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain

Oppose

•  Oppose –CrazyFisherman (talk) 20:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC) isn't necessary at all

Counter-proposal

As an alternative to the above primary proposal, the primary proposal is adopted except the bot flag is restricted technically to being granted by stewards and a new pseudobot or flood group is created for temporary uses, which may be granted by bureaucrats along the same terms as the primary propose. Dmehus (talk) 23:05, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Note: It is possible for you to support both the primary and counter-proposals and for both to pass.

Support

•  Support creation of the flood user group and  Oppose restricting the bot group to steward-only. However, I also  Support disallowing bureaucrats from granting themself bot (or flood) indefinitely unless they promises to revoke it after a short while (less than 24 hours, after which another crat may revoke the flag(s)). NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 03:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

  By the way, presuming flood consists of only one rights, bot, an admin-flooder will be able to do everything a bot can, apart from preventing notification when marking an edit as minor (minornotalk). NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 03:46, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

•  Support As Public TestWiki. AlPaD (talk) 14:31, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Neutral/Abstain

Neutral LisafBia (talk) 11:14, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Neutral --想舞花 (talk) 05:53, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Neutral — Regards, Kazrok4545 Talk 13:12, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Neutral - Although complicated and long winded, I do prefer and agree with #Counter-proposal. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 10:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

•  Oppose –CrazyFisherman (talk) 20:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC) per abvoe

General comments

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Stewardship request

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Unsuccessful, no consensus. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 22:46, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm LisafBia. Most butlers have jobs on other wikis and can't help. I think I'm active on this wiki and I think I can help. Please choose me steward! LisafBia (talk) 19:08, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Support

• It would be great to have a more active steward here, and you seem to do a good job here. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 17:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
• Just be more careful in granting rights. AlPaD (talk) 09:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

• In Test Wiki:Request for permissions/Archive 10, you handled request requested by Seiyena twice.
  • #Seiyena_2, you granted her BC despite that I had put that on hold. My reason for putting it on hold is as Trayfel said. If you had checked her permissions log in advance, you could have noticed that it's prohibited by steward. And if you had asked me before, I would have answer the reason.
  • #Seiyena_8, you granted admin again despite steward's prohibition.
• Considering these facts, I have to conclude you used permission carelessly. Thus, I can't support this - not yet, at least. Sorry.
• Also, although I don't think you're obliged to do that, I expect steward to enable 2FA.--Q8j (talk) 10:30, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

To be honest, I wouldn't hold those two incidents against them. I know that when I myself grant rights on the Miraheze test wiki, I never think to check the past log entries. It just never crosses my mind to do that. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 17:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Neutral

Neutral I don't know what's going on.--想舞花 (talk) 03:16, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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What does abuse filter throttle mean

Hi, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this, I didn't know where else to put a general question like this. I recently got a notification that my abuse filter (https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/85) was throttled. What does that mean and does it need to be remedied in any way? Thanks! Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 13:20, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Filter closed, thanks! LisafBia (talk) 14:45, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Request for steward's action regarding 想舞花

I'm requesting stewards(@MacFan4000, Dmehus) to;

1. Endorse blocking, permission revocation
2. Revoke 想舞花(and S871)'s permissions

Reason for request

Abuse of bot account, and 想舞花's permission. Talk-reject.

Facts

• User:S871bot is the bot account owned by User:想舞花(Special:Redirect/logid/30040)
  • User:S871 is also 想舞花's account(Special:Redirect/31206)
• At Test Wiki:Request for permissions#Seiyena(permalink), Seiyena requested admin/BC rights.
  • LisafBia put that on hold to get steward's approval.
  • I found Dmehus(Miraheze) said "no objection" and proposed to shorten holding time to 48 hours.
  • 想舞花 granted admin before that time expires.
• Only 10 minutes after that, 想舞花 archived the section(Archive11).
  • Seiyena had question, but she asked that on archive page.
• I felt he/she archived too early given that the matter is still ongoing and controversial. So I reverted archiving and explained that at User talk:想舞花(Special:Diff/22648).
• 想舞花 made same edits using S871bot(it had bot flag).
• I believed that this is clearly abuse of bot account. About a month ago, Arcversin told him not to make non-bot actions(Special:PermaLink/21783#Your usage of the bot flag). So I revoked bot's permission and blocked the bot(with autoblock disabled). I notified that on User talk:想舞花 and asked him/her not to revert the action(Special:Diff/22652/22656).
• 想舞花 refused to explain reasons for bot account's action(Special:PermaLink/22690#Archiving RFP, Special:PermaLink/22696#i will not abuse my bot.)
• 想舞花 removed #Archiving RFP section saying "不回答任何关于机器人的问题，如果你有机器人的问题，请发送信息给User:S871，谢谢！", removed blocking for bot and regranted admin, bot rights saying "Situation resolved".

--Q8j (talk) 17:46, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Maybe just blocking the bot account and disallowing the use of it for awhile would help. I don't think the main account should be sanctioned yet. If they were to have issues when they were allowed to use the bot account again, then perhaps the block for the main account would be warranted.

(Sorry if I'm butting into something that's none of my business, I just wanted to offer my opinion on this) Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 17:54, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

bot question should sent to this Account's talk page , Don't send to Main account's Talk Page.--S871 (talk) 18:26, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

statement by 想舞花

It is found that an IP is not the IP that my account and the robot commonly use to log in, it is hacked, and now the account has been restored. so i say Situation resolved. --想舞花 (talk) 17:59, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

The person who hacked the account, he and I live in the same community.--想舞花 (talk) 18:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

My internet service provider is China Telecom, it can be accurate to the devices within the same wifi, his device is a laptop, mine is a desktop, I saw him quit using my robot account in reality normal thing. My bot account has been hacked, it's none of your business.--想舞花 (talk) 18:18, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Just noting that 想舞花 has since retired from this wiki. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 19:16, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Users are now relocked. CheckUser evidence confirms abuse of multiple accounts. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 14:58, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, this mess is finally resolved. I've noticed this user abusing admin tools, having wheel wars with others, etc., but not brave enough to call for urgent action here. @Q8j: You are really righteous and brave. --Pavlov2~alternative (talk) 15:08, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Stewardship request for Q8j

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Q8j is thanked for their interest in putting their name forward as a Steward. There seems to be a general trend towards consensus that the user is active and perhaps trusted, though only two users have expressed a few to the latter and another user has characterized Q8j as seeming to be "responsible" and other users haven't explicitly stated those views (though it may well be implied). We must be cautious in reading too much into what people have said, or not said, though, so it is best to take their views at face value (i.e., that which is explicitly stated). There are three neutral views, which aren't express support views and their arguments tend to echo NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh's opposing view that there may not be much, if any, need for an additional Steward. Indeed, looking at the historical renames, sixteen (16) users have had been renamed in the past six or seven years since Test Wiki was created. That's an average of two renames per year. Assuming MacFan4000 and I each take one rename and assuming the historical average pattern repeats itself, that's one rename apiece in 2022. In terms of problematic users, we have one good-faith user who is being managed through an abuse filter and one persistent LTA (Andyyeung), who we seem to be managing. There was one more support from Seiyena, and their argument largely echos AlPaD's and Trayfel's argument that Q8j is active but makes no mention was to the apparent need. Indeed, by Q8j's own admission, they are chiefly active with permissions requests. I'm in the process of creating a Steward-granted abusefilter-maintainer non-test group on Test Wiki, so we could potentially explore a Steward granted senior-bureaucrat group that would have the ability to grant interface administrator permissions to trusted users under strict Steward defined conditions, potentially. The final support was unsigned and thus procedurally invalid. On a strict nosecount, that's four supports, two of which were weaker arguments, one oppose, and three neutrals, all of which echo the opposing view. So, in short, no consensus. Dmehus (talk) 04:39, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

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Hello. I'd like to request for steward permission.

When we(BC) need steward's action, decision or approval, we send notification to stewards like "@MacFan4000 and @Dmehus". But sometimes their response can take some time.

It can't be helped, given that there are only 2 stewards and they don't(of course, aren't obligated to) check this site frequently.

I frequently check this site and notifications, so I think I can shorten response time.

Of course, I'll be careful when I decide something or use permission as steward.

Thank you for your consideration.--Q8j (talk) 07:43, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Vote and Comment

 Support Trusted and active user. AlPaD (talk) 09:06, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

 Support / Question: @Q8j:, other than dealing with steward needed actions, what else will you contribute towards the site / community? Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 19:03, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Trayfel Thank you for the question. Even if I gain steward right, my main activity here would be tasks that doesn't require steward permissions. Such as handling RFP.--Q8j (talk) 23:38, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@Q8j: Thank you for your response. I am changing my vote to  Support as you are a trusted user and we would benefit greatly having you as a Steward. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 12:37, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Currently Neutral, but you should really reconsider if sending messages like "Please choose me!" to user talk pages is adequate. –CrazyFisherman (talk) 22:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@CrazyFisherman:I don't remember doing that. Would you mind clarifying which edit do you mean?--Q8j (talk) 23:38, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@CrazyFisherman:Uh, I found it. You mean this, correct? then, the message is sent by LisafBia(Log), not me and "There is currently a selection" refers to #Stewardship_request. I guess there's misunderstanding.--Q8j (talk) 07:31, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Right now I'm Neutral. You seem responsible but I'm not really sure if we need another steward... Best, Hellk77 (talk) 22:15, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

 Support Q8j seems to be here a lot more frequently than the current stewards, both of whom have duties on other sites, and would most likely be able to handle any pressing issues within a short time. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 11:36, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm also Neutral leaning weak  Oppose as I think there's no need for another steward on this test wiki. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 14:17, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

•  Support You are very active on the wiki. I think you can do this task.

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• Thanks to everyone involved in this election.--Q8j (talk) 07:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

How do you modify the block reasons drop-down menu?

I wanted to move the "Steward action" reason to the section of reasons to only be used by stewards, as I think it belongs there. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 23:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Moved. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 14:19, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi, @Piccadilly:! To do this, you need to write a separate module, since I do not know the parameter at the software level. — Regards, Kazrok4545 Talk 08:39, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Skins and mobile view problem

Hello! I installed timeless skin in my preferences, but it didn't change the skin on the mobile screen. Why? Thanks! AlPaD (talk) 10:26, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

I will look into this. The mobile skin is handled by the MobileFrontend extension. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 12:08, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I requested new skin. AlPaD (talk) 14:02, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Fixed, in newer versions of the extension, the way to set the default mobile skin was changed. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 23:20, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! AlPaD (talk) 04:26, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Deletion Request

Hi, can someone please delete my sandbox? I don't need it any more. Thank you! Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 10:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 22:18, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Add CentralAuth

Hi, I think we can add the CentralAuth extension. Some permissions may be restricted. LisafBia (talk) 19:07, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Wouldn't that only be useful for a network of wikis, that way someone could see which wikis someone else had edited? How would it be useful for just one wiki like this one? (I'm not against this, I'm just curious as to how it would be useful.) Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:10, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Seiyena, to be used only for testing CentralAuth tools LisafBia (talk) 21:35, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

I didn't know you could test anything there. That would be cool. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 21:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

This cannot be done. CentralAuth is not meant for use on a single wiki and is very difficult to get running. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 00:34, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

I concur with MacFan4000. While it's an interesting extension, Test Wiki is a single wiki so would not make sense to install here. Dmehus (talk) 07:27, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Rename account

I changed my name to "Chrs" over on Miraheze a while ago, could it please be renamed here too? — Arcversin (talk) 18:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 00:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)