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I don't know what to do, so just so you know.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 07:27, 13 April 2022 (UTC) | I don't know what to do, so just so you know.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 07:27, 13 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:I requested the right because all I could do as a non-admin was move pages back and forth, and I wanted to continue testing admin privileges. And I promise not to ask for bureaucrat until after May 1. [[User: | :I requested the right because all I could do as a non-admin was move pages back and forth, and I wanted to continue testing admin privileges. And I promise not to ask for bureaucrat until after May 1. [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 11:45, 13 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
::Thank you for bringing this up Q8j. I will be revoking said permissions until the minimum wait has been met. '''If''' Dmehus disagrees with my action then I take full responsibility. {{ping| | ::Thank you for bringing this up Q8j. I will be revoking said permissions until the minimum wait has been met. '''If''' Dmehus disagrees with my action then I take full responsibility. {{ping|Piccadilly}} Please do not make any further RFP's until you have met the minimum time set. [[User:Sav|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 22:12, 14 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:::I just felt that I could do more testing as an admin than just a regular user, and since in real life I have a bit of time on my hands right now, I wanted to use some of it to test here. And I have been responsible with the admin powers. [[User: | :::I just felt that I could do more testing as an admin than just a regular user, and since in real life I have a bit of time on my hands right now, I wanted to use some of it to test here. And I have been responsible with the admin powers. [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 23:44, 14 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
::::I restored your confirmed, researcher, autopatrolled, autochecked permissions, because it had already approved by Dmehus when you are granted admin right. As a side, seems you want to restore [[Talk:Main Page/en-gb]]. I don't know why you want it restored(looks totally nonsense to me), but with resercher right, though you can't '''restore''' it, you can '''<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Special:Undelete|target={{urlencode:Talk:Main Page/en-gb}}×tamp=20200612201004}} view]</span>''' deleted contents. Hope that helps.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 03:54, 15 April 2022 (UTC) | ::::I restored your confirmed, researcher, autopatrolled, autochecked permissions, because it had already approved by Dmehus when you are granted admin right. As a side, seems you want to restore [[Talk:Main Page/en-gb]]. I don't know why you want it restored(looks totally nonsense to me), but with resercher right, though you can't '''restore''' it, you can '''<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Special:Undelete|target={{urlencode:Talk:Main Page/en-gb}}×tamp=20200612201004}} view]</span>''' deleted contents. Hope that helps.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 03:54, 15 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
Thank you. I only want to restore the page because I had deleted it as a test, and feel like that test should be reverted. Also, Dmehus, can I please have my admin privileges back please? I was being responsible with them here. [[User: | Thank you. I only want to restore the page because I had deleted it as a test, and feel like that test should be reverted. Also, Dmehus, can I please have my admin privileges back please? I was being responsible with them here. [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 07:08, 15 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
==About deleting versus rollbacking== | ==About deleting versus rollbacking== | ||
Hi Dmehus. I just wanted to note that I deleted the IP's contributions because they were new pages. I didn't see any way to roll them back, and I didn't think I should just let the pages stay so that's why I deleted. [[User: | Hi Dmehus. I just wanted to note that I deleted the IP's contributions because they were new pages. I didn't see any way to roll them back, and I didn't think I should just let the pages stay so that's why I deleted. [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 23:43, 18 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:[[User: | :[[User:Piccadilly|Seiyena]], that's great. :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 07:39, 20 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
==[[Special:AbuseFilter/88]]== | ==[[Special:AbuseFilter/88]]== | ||
Hi Doug, can I make some complaints regarding [{{fullurl:Special:AbuseLog|wpSearchFilter=88}} filter #88's newest hits] here? While the filter is still good at its job, I think something else needs to be done. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 04:11, 23 April 2022 (UTC) | Hi Doug, can I make some complaints regarding [{{fullurl:Special:AbuseLog|wpSearchFilter=88}} filter #88's newest hits] here? While the filter is still good at its job, I think something else needs to be done. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 04:11, 23 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:If the filter is doing its job, why would something else need to be done? And what would that something else be anyways? [[User: | :If the filter is doing its job, why would something else need to be done? And what would that something else be anyways? [[User:Piccadilly|Sei]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My changes here</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Drop me a line</span>]]) 05:20, 23 April 2022 (UTC) | ||
:[[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]], apologies for the delayed response, but if you have some additional improvements to the filter to make, I'm all ears and likely have no objections. If there's something else you'd like to suggest, please feel free. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 07:38, 20 June 2022 (UTC) | :[[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]], apologies for the delayed response, but if you have some additional improvements to the filter to make, I'm all ears and likely have no objections. If there's something else you'd like to suggest, please feel free. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 07:38, 20 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
::I proposed some changes here https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Test_Wiki:Community_portal#Any_thoughts_on_this_proposed_change_to_filter_88? While it sounds harsh, I think it could add more reason for me to not trigger the filter. [[User: | ::I proposed some changes here https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Test_Wiki:Community_portal#Any_thoughts_on_this_proposed_change_to_filter_88? While it sounds harsh, I think it could add more reason for me to not trigger the filter. [[User:Piccadilly|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 07:42, 20 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
==Happy Cinco de Mayo:== | ==Happy Cinco de Mayo:== | ||
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:'''Note:''' I have reblocked the user to protect the site while awaiting your response. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 11:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | :'''Note:''' I have reblocked the user to protect the site while awaiting your response. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 11:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
:[[User:Q8j|Q8j]], thanks for the message. I realized that afterward, and ''did'' post a note for MacFan4000 (and Drummingman) in the IRC channel, to see if either of them had any objections and, if so, I would indeed reblock. I will check the IRC channel and see if there have been comments. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 15:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | :[[User:Q8j|Q8j]], thanks for the message. I realized that afterward, and ''did'' post a note for MacFan4000 (and Drummingman) in the IRC channel, to see if either of them had any objections and, if so, I would indeed reblock. I will check the IRC channel and see if there have been comments. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 15:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
::A note in this case: I've decided to grant talk page access for appeal purposes as it has been 2 years. There is a very real probability of change, and TPA being disabled does not appear to be necessary to prevent further disruption. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:26, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::While I don’t oppose the idea of resorting TPA, I don’t want us to get into a pattern of “Unblock all of the LTAs just because they haven’t edited in awhile.” We have unblocked Piccidally, Talisumatefan, and now this. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:47, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::We're not unblocking all of the LTAs. If one doesn't give a satisfactory explanation? They remain blocked. CIR users, particularly where 2 years have passed with no apparent sockpuppetry, probably aren't LTAs locally, and TPAD isn't necessary to prevent disruption. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:14, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::I’m aware we aren’t unblocking all of the LTAs, just pointing out that this is the third LTA we’ve altered their block in the past 3 months. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:04, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::I wouldn't necessarily consider myself an LTA, if I'm being honest. Just a person who has made some very bad decisions on wikis and who strives to do better. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 19:16, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Yep. If a user is attempting to do better and does not sock, they are at most a CIR user, not an LTA, IMO. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:17, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
==Thank you== | ==Thank you== | ||
Hi Dmehus, I just wanted to thank you for all your helpful work in getting me unblocked here. I will behave myself from now on and I hope to see you on Miraheze in a few months when hopefully I will return. [[User: | Hi Dmehus, I just wanted to thank you for all your helpful work in getting me unblocked here. I will behave myself from now on and I hope to see you on Miraheze in a few months when hopefully I will return. [[User:Piccadilly|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 15:59, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
:Hi, [[User: | :Hi, [[User:Piccadilly|Seiyena]], you're welcome. I have to procedurally reblock you and remove your permissions until this closed, though. When you're unblocked, you do not need to re-request permissions. Any bureaucrat can just re-add your rights. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 16:03, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
==Reverting unblock== | ==Reverting unblock== | ||
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[[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 16:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 16:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
:[[User:X|X]] the provision you referred to refers to how to handle administrator disputes (for example, if an administrator disagrees with a temporary reblock of Seiyena, then if two bureaucrats concur that shouldn't have been a block, there is no issue for them to revert the unblock). Similarly, I believe I also said if Seiyena receives three forms of progressive discipline and needs to be reblocked indefinitely, there would be no issues with a bureaucrat temporarily blocking them indefinitely until reblocked by a steward. Hope that clarifies! :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 17:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | :[[User:X|X]] the provision you referred to refers to how to handle administrator disputes (for example, if an administrator disagrees with a temporary reblock of Seiyena, then if two bureaucrats concur that shouldn't have been a block, there is no issue for them to revert the unblock). Similarly, I believe I also said if Seiyena receives three forms of progressive discipline and needs to be reblocked indefinitely, there would be no issues with a bureaucrat temporarily blocking them indefinitely until reblocked by a steward. Hope that clarifies! :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 17:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
::I am somewhat confused by your response. I was referring to [https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:Log?type=block&user=Dmehus&page=User% | ::I am somewhat confused by your response. I was referring to [https://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Special:Log?type=block&user=Dmehus&page=User%3APiccadilly&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=block&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist this] action specifically. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::What are you confused by? That is indeed what I thought you were referring to. Seiyena will indeed be unblocked, per the [[w:WP:CON|community consensus]]. The issue was you unblocked Seiyena, which you did under a [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]] misunderstanding of what I had said, so I am attempting to clarify your confusion. :) | :::What are you confused by? That is indeed what I thought you were referring to. Seiyena will indeed be unblocked, per the [[w:WP:CON|community consensus]]. The issue was you unblocked Seiyena, which you did under a [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]] misunderstanding of what I had said, so I am attempting to clarify your confusion. :) | ||
:::Separately, can you pop into IRC, please, and DM me? There is something I need to ask you about privately. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 17:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | :::Separately, can you pop into IRC, please, and DM me? There is something I need to ask you about privately. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 17:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
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==About my rename request== | ==About my rename request== | ||
Hi again. I haven't gotten much feedback on my rename request to Piccadilly, but X did say that they'd rather I not be renamed while I still have active restrictions. So I guess I'll wait until I know for sure that those restrictions are lifted, and then I'd like to be renamed. Thanks! [[User: | Hi again. I haven't gotten much feedback on my rename request to Piccadilly, but X did say that they'd rather I not be renamed while I still have active restrictions. So I guess I'll wait until I know for sure that those restrictions are lifted, and then I'd like to be renamed. Thanks! [[User:Piccadilly|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 14:39, 24 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
==Interface admin== | ==Interface admin== | ||
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::I also don't like your warning [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] for edit warring in a situation where you were also conflicted. That's also a judgment and conflict issue, particularly '''both''' of your reversions could be considered edit warring. That's the sort of thing a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]] should review and provide neutral, uninvolved warnings or advisories to '''both''' users. :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 16:41, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | ::I also don't like your warning [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] for edit warring in a situation where you were also conflicted. That's also a judgment and conflict issue, particularly '''both''' of your reversions could be considered edit warring. That's the sort of thing a [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Steward]] should review and provide neutral, uninvolved warnings or advisories to '''both''' users. :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 16:41, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::A steward did review it. @[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] agreed with me that the strike wasn’t needed. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 16:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | :::A steward did review it. @[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] agreed with me that the strike wasn’t needed. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 16:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
==We need to talk== | |||
When you get a chance, let’s chat on Discord. I think that would help us clear things up, based on my talk with Drummingman. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 22:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah, I'll reach out to you Discord, if you prefer, before tomorrow morning (my time). [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:55, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
::Are you available now? [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 20:19, 3 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
==Bureaucrat rights in preventing disruption clarification== | |||
Heya. Surely some of the bureaucrats on this wiki can be trusted to place blocks up to and including indefinitely, and to issue firm warnings. Does this new clarification require they all be elected Stewards to be empowered to do so, or is it merely [rfc:2119 recommended] that bureaucrats not place long-term blocks or issue firm warnings? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:15, 3 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:I was also wondering the same thing, and I thank @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] for voicing those concerns. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:25, 3 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], thank you for the question. I would say it isn't so much as a ''new'' guideline, but rather one which has not been used consistently on Test Wiki, which governs itself very similarly to Public Test Wiki. I would say it would be fine to interpret it as a [rfc:2119 recommendation]. Basically, the idea is to use [[w:WP:COMMONSENSE|common sense]]. Obvious spambots or vandalism only accounts would be fine to block indefinitely, but established [[w:WP:CIR|competency is required]] users, the recommended best practice would be to guide, follow it with a warning, then a short block (or block(s)) of between a few days to a few weeks. If a longer term or indefinite block is needed, it should be referred to Stewards. I thought it would be helpful to add the clarification since bureaucrats may have different judgment levels of what is appropriate. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 20:17, 3 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
==A barnstar for you!== | |||
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| style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" |'''The Civility Barnstar''' | |||
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| style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" |You have been consistently civil, no matter the situation, even if it is extremely contentious. Here's your barnstar, you earned it. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
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:{{Thank you}}! This is a nice barnstar. I don't know if I've received this one before, at least not on Test Wiki. :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 01:53, 4 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
::{{done|No problem, you deserve it}}! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:59, 4 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
==Inactivity== | |||
You have been inactive for over 3 months. Please come back. Thank you. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:34, 16 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
:Is this warning genuinely essential, especially given that it's a full '''9 months''' away and not imminent? [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 01:47, 17 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
::My intention with this message was to ask Dmehus to come back, but that clearly wasn’t conveyed well. My apologies. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 10:08, 17 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::Ah, I understand now. Thank you for the clarification. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 13:49, 17 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::Dear, @[[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]], it has become [[Test Wiki:Community portal/10#Proposal: Reduce non-system administrator steward inactivity period|much more relevant now]], considering you still have about 6 weeks [[Test Wiki:Inactivity policy|to go]], I hope you will get active again? As a steward and user :) Greetings, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 20:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]], [[User:X|X]], [[User:Sav|Sav]], {{Done|Back}}! :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::Welcome back, Dmehus! Glad to see you return, hope all is well! [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 12:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::Glad to see you back! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Welcome back. :) [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 17:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
==Recent suppressions== | |||
Per the Privacy Policy: "It is a long-standing practice on this wiki that individuals engaging in: | |||
excessive vandalism with intent of causing mayhem beyond reasonable definition of "testing", harassment, stalking or otherwise discomforting other users of the wiki, and other disruptive behavior, deserve to have their privacy violated, at the discretion of the stewards or sysadmins. This may involve a public release of all and any available information that is otherwise considered private, or any other action that would limit further damage." [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 12:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
:That simply permits Stewards to leave PII unsuppressed; it does not say it ''must'' remain unsuppressed. I'm not sure what you're getting at? [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 12:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC) | |||