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:'''Note:''' I have reblocked the user to protect the site while awaiting your response. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 11:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | :'''Note:''' I have reblocked the user to protect the site while awaiting your response. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 11:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
:[[User:Q8j|Q8j]], thanks for the message. I realized that afterward, and ''did'' post a note for MacFan4000 (and Drummingman) in the IRC channel, to see if either of them had any objections and, if so, I would indeed reblock. I will check the IRC channel and see if there have been comments. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 15:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | :[[User:Q8j|Q8j]], thanks for the message. I realized that afterward, and ''did'' post a note for MacFan4000 (and Drummingman) in the IRC channel, to see if either of them had any objections and, if so, I would indeed reblock. I will check the IRC channel and see if there have been comments. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 15:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
::A note in this case: I've decided to grant talk page access for appeal purposes as it has been 2 years. There is a very real probability of change, and TPA being disabled does not appear to be necessary to prevent further disruption. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:26, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::While I don’t oppose the idea of resorting TPA, I don’t want us to get into a pattern of “Unblock all of the LTAs just because they haven’t edited in awhile.” We have unblocked Piccidally, Talisumatefan, and now this. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 17:47, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::We're not unblocking all of the LTAs. If one doesn't give a satisfactory explanation? They remain blocked. CIR users, particularly where 2 years have passed with no apparent sockpuppetry, probably aren't LTAs locally, and TPAD isn't necessary to prevent disruption. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:14, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::I’m aware we aren’t unblocking all of the LTAs, just pointing out that this is the third LTA we’ve altered their block in the past 3 months. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 19:04, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::I wouldn't necessarily consider myself an LTA, if I'm being honest. Just a person who has made some very bad decisions on wikis and who strives to do better. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 19:16, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Yep. If a user is attempting to do better and does not sock, they are at most a CIR user, not an LTA, IMO. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:17, 10 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
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:Yeah, I'll reach out to you Discord, if you prefer, before tomorrow morning (my time). [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:55, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | :Yeah, I'll reach out to you Discord, if you prefer, before tomorrow morning (my time). [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:55, 2 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
::Are you available now? [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 20:19, 3 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Bureaucrat rights in preventing disruption clarification == | ==Bureaucrat rights in preventing disruption clarification== | ||
Heya. Surely some of the bureaucrats on this wiki can be trusted to place blocks up to and including indefinitely, and to issue firm warnings. Does this new clarification require they all be | Heya. Surely some of the bureaucrats on this wiki can be trusted to place blocks up to and including indefinitely, and to issue firm warnings. Does this new clarification require they all be elected Stewards to be empowered to do so, or is it merely [rfc:2119 recommended] that bureaucrats not place long-term blocks or issue firm warnings? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:15, 3 July 2023 (UTC) | ||
:I was also wondering the same thing, and I thank @[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] for voicing those concerns. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:25, 3 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]], thank you for the question. I would say it isn't so much as a ''new'' guideline, but rather one which has not been used consistently on Test Wiki, which governs itself very similarly to Public Test Wiki. I would say it would be fine to interpret it as a [rfc:2119 recommendation]. Basically, the idea is to use [[w:WP:COMMONSENSE|common sense]]. Obvious spambots or vandalism only accounts would be fine to block indefinitely, but established [[w:WP:CIR|competency is required]] users, the recommended best practice would be to guide, follow it with a warning, then a short block (or block(s)) of between a few days to a few weeks. If a longer term or indefinite block is needed, it should be referred to Stewards. I thought it would be helpful to add the clarification since bureaucrats may have different judgment levels of what is appropriate. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 20:17, 3 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
==A barnstar for you!== | |||
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| style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" |You have been consistently civil, no matter the situation, even if it is extremely contentious. Here's your barnstar, you earned it. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
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:{{Thank you}}! This is a nice barnstar. I don't know if I've received this one before, at least not on Test Wiki. :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 01:53, 4 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
::{{done|No problem, you deserve it}}! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:59, 4 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
==Inactivity== | |||
You have been inactive for over 3 months. Please come back. Thank you. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 18:34, 16 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
:Is this warning genuinely essential, especially given that it's a full '''9 months''' away and not imminent? [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 01:47, 17 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
::My intention with this message was to ask Dmehus to come back, but that clearly wasn’t conveyed well. My apologies. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 10:08, 17 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::Ah, I understand now. Thank you for the clarification. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 13:49, 17 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::Dear, @[[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]], it has become [[Test Wiki:Community portal/10#Proposal: Reduce non-system administrator steward inactivity period|much more relevant now]], considering you still have about 6 weeks [[Test Wiki:Inactivity policy|to go]], I hope you will get active again? As a steward and user :) Greetings, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 20:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]], [[User:X|X]], [[User:Sav|Sav]], {{Done|Back}}! :) [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 02:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::Welcome back, Dmehus! Glad to see you return, hope all is well! [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 12:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::Glad to see you back! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Welcome back. :) [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 17:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC) | |||