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::Yeah, I definitely will ask someone else to make any edits to filter 88 for me. And I will continue being careful in my actions here. [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 19:13, 18 June 2022 (UTC) |
::Yeah, I definitely will ask someone else to make any edits to filter 88 for me. And I will continue being careful in my actions here. [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 19:13, 18 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:::I would allow it under the circumstances that any triggering of filter 88 results in a site wide block for 45 days. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 06:18, 19 June 2022 (UTC) |
:::I would allow it under the circumstances that any triggering of filter 88 results in a site wide block for 45 days. [[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]] ([[User talk:Zippybonzo|talk]]) 06:18, 19 June 2022 (UTC) |
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* Last time I warned them not to trigger AF#88 was on [[Special:Diff/23055/23057|June 9]]. Today's June 19, and since then the abuse filter haven't caught any bad edits other than blank creation of talk pages, a restriction placed by {{ping|Arcversin|label1=Chrs|p=}}. That being said, if Chrs has no opposition, I'm willing to regrant permissions starting <em>tomorrow</em> (UTC). [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 12:00, 19 June 2022 (UTC) |
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Seiyena
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Administrator and Bureaucrat
- [yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: Hi. I am back from my "break" and would like to request my rights back. As far as I know, I don't have any restrictions on needing steward approval or having to wait for either one of these. I promise to be responsible here and obey all the rules from now on. Thank you. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 16:57, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ping @Dmehus or MacFan4000 in case you have any questions or comments. @Seiyena, I strongly advise not triggering filter 88 ever again. Don't say stuff like "Hi f——ts" on talk pages. If a steward objects to any of these rights, consider it denied. Thanks. 3PPYB6 (talk) 17:07, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I will absolutely stay-- away from setting off that filter. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 17:09, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Just a note, I did bring this up to MacFan4000 (and Dmehus) yesterday on Miraheze but never got a reply. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:MacFan4000
Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 17:37, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: I think it's good that 3PPYB6 sent notification to stewards and LisafBia put this on hold.
- On the other hand, yes, there is no steward's decision prohibiting her from having admin(If I'm not missing something). MacFan4000 blocked her for 3 weeks but didn't make new decision prohibiting her from having permissions. Also, on Miraheze, Dmehus(I verified that "Dmehus" there and Dmehus here are the same person) said "No objections to you having permissions on Test Wiki". It can be considered as steward's approval.
- Unless steward decides otherwise or BC objects in 48 hours, I think she should be granted admin. @3PPYB6 and LisafBia:What do you think?--Q8j (talk) 18:38, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- I think we should keep it at trial. LisafBia (talk) 18:45, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Q8j – If no steward openly rejects anything here, we can procedurally give Seiyena administrator. However, bureaucrat needs steward approval (see here). Thanks. 3PPYB6 (talk) 22:05, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
I didn't realize that Dmehus had replied on MacFan's Miraheze talk page after I pinged him. So since he said he doesn't have a problem with me having admin and bureaucrat, does that mean I can have those permissions granted right away? Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 22:02, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Done. but bureaucart in later day. 想舞花 (talk) 03:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- So can I request bureaucrat in a few days? Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 03:20, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Seiyena: 1 day later.--想舞花 (talk) 03:23, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds good with me. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 03:25, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Per my question regarding my rights on Miraheze, Dmehus said he wouldn't have any problems with my holding permissions here. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:MacFan4000
But I'll let the other bureaucrats and the stewards decide on this. If they want me to wait, then I will wait (and not ask early). I really don't want to cause any more trouble here. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 17:23, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Seiyena
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Bureaucrat
- [yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: The section above is a bit long so I thought I would put this here. Anyways, I feel that I'm ready to be a bureaucrat here. However, like I said above, I'm okay if others would prefer me to wait a bit. My main reason for asking is so I can give rights to others when they request them here. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 00:41, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Seiyena:Why do you need this right? Will you re-use insults against people of a different nationality, race, religion, etc. — Regards, Kazrok4545 Talk 03:50, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
I will not use any more insults against anyone here. I'd like to be able to help make people admins and bureaucrats when they ask here, and also practice mass-deleting pages. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 03:54, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- On hold 24 hours passed since you're granted admin.
- Your question was "I would just like to ask if I am allowed to regain my admin and bureaucrat privileges there right away" and Dmehus said "No objections to you having permissions on Test Wiki.", so there's no steward's restrictions.
- So, there's no reason that we, BC, can't grant BC. Question remains is that whether she can be trusted enough to have BC.
- This time, I'm not intended to wait steward's authorization(Of course, if they decide something, I'll do as they say). I put this on hold for 48 hours to listen BC's opinion.
- 48 hours may be long for you, but please be patient. Also, if BCs don't oppose this, I'm fine with granting BC. But if there is objection, unless there are more support, I have to decline this.
- --Q8j (talk) 04:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Special:MyLanguage/Template:Not done and blocked Mini14 as sockpuppet or copycat of 想舞花.--Q8j (talk) 08:13, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Hi, since the 48 hour waiting period will end later today, I just wanted to make sure that if anyone wanted to give their thoughts on me becoming a bureaucrat here, they can do so. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 11:07, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Seiyena: Hello, Seiyena. I will be assigning you the permission as I feel you have proven yourself to have changed. I really hope you do not prove us wrong with this decision. All the best. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 12:51, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Request is Done. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 12:51, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Mini14
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right:Bureaucrat
- [Yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [Yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [Yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments:thanks Mini14 (talk) 04:37, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Example
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right:administrator and bureaucract
- [yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: i need use this account doing test Example (talk) 09:03, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done Per removing content from Test Wiki:Community portal AlPaD (talk) 09:28, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
想舞花
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Admin and bureaucract
- [yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments:back 想舞花 (talk) 09:26, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @想舞花: Hello! User:Mini14 is your? AlPaD (talk) 09:29, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Done. Make another request for the bureaucrat. LisafBia (talk) 09:40, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
想舞花
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right:bureaucrat
- [yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments:thanks 想舞花 (talk) 09:42, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
DarkMatterMan4500
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Bureaucrat
- [Yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [Yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [Yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: I want to test out other features such as the import tools, so I can do a test delete if I wanted to. I am aware that's not really saying much, but I should be able to do so, as the importing page is only accessible to bureaucrats only. Of course, I'll be responsible with the importing. --DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 15:47, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Done. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 15:50, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Seiyena
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Administrator and bureaucrat
- [yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: I had my permissions removed for editing filter 88 even after being told not to. However, I thought that since I was just adding my alt account names to the filter and not removing anything, it would be okay. But I will not edit that filter at all any more. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 00:32, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh: Can you see this request? AlPaD (talk) 04:38, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @AlPaD: I oppose regranting adminship and cratship for at least two weeks from today.
- @LisafBia: You did so without even notifying me, without any formal request on this page. Would you mind explain why you thought regranting adminship for someone who did not keep their promise to behave, not once but multiple times, right after another user revoked their permissions is a good idea?
- @Seiyena: I said my last warning needs to be "broadly construed", and you promised not to edit the filter in question. You failed to keep a promise, so I see no reason to believe you a second time, at least not in a few weeks.
- I request that a bureaucrat, other than LisafBia and me, close this discussion and enact accordingly, which means to grant/revoke permissions or to leave things as is (temporary adminship). NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 15:02, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done for now. AlPaD (talk) 16:58, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Should I wait two weeks to ask again? Or could I keep admin for those two weeks and assuming everything goes well, ask for bureaucrat in two weeks? Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 17:08, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Seiyena
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Administrator
- [yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: I would like to ask for admin for right now, but since I did go back on my word about editing the filter, I will wait two weeks to ask for bureaucrat. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 06:52, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- I meant to say that you should be granted cratship nor adminship in no sooner than two weeks. Your temporary adminship was not revoked simply because I don't want to revert another user's change without consultation, like what they did to me. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 15:36, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have a bit of a proposal. Firstly, Seiyena, I hope you do realize that you should never have edited filter 88, even if it was just to add your alternate accounts. You could have used the Community portal to suggest your change, then an unrelated user can make that change for you. Let alone, you shouldn't have even deliberately triggered it. While a majority of these triggers are false positives, some of them are totally unacceptable. I wish I could say that if you say a racially insensitive/derogatory comment like "hi f——ts" or "hi f——rs" or "hi r——ds" ever again then you would be blocked. But let's not do that as the abuse filter is to guide, not to punish you.
- Instead, let's do this: adminship and cratship will be re-granted via a bureaucrat-by-bureaucrat discussion in which we will determine your worthiness of the rights. If you trigger filter 88 deliberately (note that this is different from a false positive), your adminship and cratship will be revoked until bureaucrats can further decide on whether or not you still deserve the rights.
- If we can prove that time and time again you have triggered filter 88 with intention and in bad faith, you will be sent to the community portal where you will face the stewards. They will figure out what to do next.
- I hope you do realize that at this point you have been trusted and abused that trust we have placed in you. I'll trust you until I can't, but from now on you're walking on some paper-thin ice. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:22, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- That sounds like a fair plan to me, and I do understand that I absolutely should stay away from either editing or triggering that filter. Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 21:39, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
So should I still wait two weeks before being given admin and bureaucrat? Sei (My changes here | Drop me a line) 15:59, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Seiyena
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Administrator and Bureaucrat
- [yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: I'd like to test more things that admins and bureaucrats do. If we go with the proposal above, could I please go ahead and have my powers back? I really will stay away from editing filter 88. -Seiyena The darkness is coming for you 09:41, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- No. I don't feel comfortable giving you any advanced rights after the recent problem. Not to mention that you intentionally triggered AF#88 again. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 14:26, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- All right. I will wait a few more days before asking again. The darkness is coming for you 14:29, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done - As per NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh's comment. @Seiyena: Please also see my comment on your talk page. Regards, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 15:43, 9 June 2022 (UTC).
- I fixed my signature. And I will do my very best not to trigger filter 88 again. I'd rather not have to face the stewards. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 16:02, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not done - As per NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh's comment. @Seiyena: Please also see my comment on your talk page. Regards, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 15:43, 9 June 2022 (UTC).
- All right. I will wait a few more days before asking again. The darkness is coming for you 14:29, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for changing your signature, @Seiyena:. Unfortunately, @NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh: and I's decision still stands. Your permissions will not be reinstated anytime soon. In order for you to be granted Administrator, a Steward will have to grant you the right or a consensus must be reached by a minimum of 3 Bureaucrats. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 16:10, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- I had been under the impression that I needed to wait just a few more days before asking again. How long do you recommend waiting for? @NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh: @Trayfel: Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 17:16, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Seiyena: Hello, Seiyena. I would suggest not requesting any further permissions and to stop asking when your rights will be reinstated. If a decision is made regarding your rights, then you will be notified. Cheers, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 20:47, 10 June 2022 (UTC).
- Okay, this is a strange request but I think it would be for the best right now. Could someone please block me from this page for as long you feel I should wait before requesting admin and bureaucrat again? Thank you. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 00:34, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Seiyena: Hello, Seiyena. I would suggest not requesting any further permissions and to stop asking when your rights will be reinstated. If a decision is made regarding your rights, then you will be notified. Cheers, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 20:47, 10 June 2022 (UTC).
ZhuofanWu
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Administrator and Bureaucrat
- [Yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [Yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [Yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: I`m a former Administrator and Bureaucrat, so I request two rights at the same time. Thanks. --Zhuofan Wu 01:18, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
DragoBot
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Bot
- [y] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [y] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [y] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: Hi, could I have a bot flag for this account if I may? I'm running a bot on the Japanese Wikipedia (with an account named exactly the same as the nom), and I need to test what can and can't be done with an account with a bot flag. Thank you for your consideration. Dragoniez (talk) 08:59, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Dragoniez: Done. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 09:20, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh. --Dragoniez (talk) 09:25, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
User3749
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Administrator
- [yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: I am not sure if I need to make a confirmation here but I think I don't. If you need one anyways I am on the English Wikipedia under the same user name. User3749 (talk) 11:59, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
User3749
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Bureaucrat
- [Yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [Yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [Yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: I am not sure if I have to wait after requesting admin for a certain time but I think there is not. User3749 (talk) 14:17, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Done. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 14:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Seiyena
Template:UserLinks Template:RfPBtn Requested right: Administrator
- [yes] I am familiar with all of Test Wiki's policies, and understand that important rules will be communicated to me as necessary through obtrusive message boxes.
- [yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
- [yes] I agree that if I misuse the sysop/bureaucrat tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.
Other comments: I would like to request administrator permissions here again. I have not triggered filter 88 with any bad words for the past few days and would like to get back to testing more advanced permissions. I will wait to ask for bureaucrat for a few more days. Thank you! Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 13:51, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- On hold until 2 other crats voice their opinions on this request for permissions. Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 15:36, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm going to ping @NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh here as they have had a lot to say about this user. Myself, I see that this user has not deliberately bad-faith triggered filter 88 since the last time I was on here, with the last one on 8 June. That aside, I am extremely wary of this user having advanced permissions given their long history of abuse, but as NDKDD said it, "this is a test wiki after all. We are here to test things out without worrying about the system or being blocked, not just to play this hierachical bureaucrat & admin game by using permissions we never have on actual, productive wikis." Seiyena historically has sworn up and down and left and right without keeping that promise; reminiscent of a child having their fingers crossed when making a promise. But I am seeing some improvement coming from this user. I very weakly Support having this user granted administrator, but if I see one more bad-faith trigger of abuse filter 88, the rights will be revoked without discussion. This might seem unreasonable to the peanut gallery, but it's just my proposal. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 19:01, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Also, add in if they edit filter 88 again, then their rights will be revoked too. @Seiyena, the next time you wish to make an edit (especially an uncontroversial one), please request at the community portal, rather than editing the filter itself given its potential for abuse. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 19:09, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I definitely will ask someone else to make any edits to filter 88 for me. And I will continue being careful in my actions here. Seiyena (My Contribs | Talk to me) 19:13, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- I would allow it under the circumstances that any triggering of filter 88 results in a site wide block for 45 days. Zippybonzo (talk) 06:18, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Last time I warned them not to trigger AF#88 was on June 9. Today's June 19, and since then the abuse filter haven't caught any bad edits other than blank creation of talk pages, a restriction placed by @Chrs. That being said, if Chrs has no opposition, I'm willing to regrant permissions starting tomorrow (UTC). NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 12:00, 19 June 2022 (UTC)