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:::{{ping|Naleksuh|Fast}} There are several reasons. I am also open to explaining it to you, but only on IRC or Discord. [[User:BlackWidowMovie0|BlackWidowMovie0]] ([[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0|talk]]) 20:54, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Naleksuh|Fast}} There are several reasons. I am also open to explaining it to you, but only on IRC or Discord. [[User:BlackWidowMovie0|BlackWidowMovie0]] ([[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0|talk]]) 20:54, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
::::That's fine you don't owe me an explanation. That said if I remember I'll try to drop by on IRC this weekend when I'm less busy in case you want to get something off your chest, and you can tell me as much or as little as you want. [[User:Fast|Fast - ZoomZoom]] ([[User talk:Fast|talk]]) 21:49, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
::::That's fine you don't owe me an explanation. That said if I remember I'll try to drop by on IRC this weekend when I'm less busy in case you want to get something off your chest, and you can tell me as much or as little as you want. [[User:Fast|Fast - ZoomZoom]] ([[User talk:Fast|talk]]) 21:49, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Fast}} There's really no point trying to start over anymore. I was trying for a [[w:WP:CLEANSLATE|fresh start]] on this wiki, as people didn't trust me. A user screwed it, and now I'm sad. [[User:BlackWidowMovie0|BlackWidowMovie0]] ([[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0|talk]]) 21:59, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Fast}} There's really no point trying to start over anymore. I was trying for a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CLEANSLATE fresh start] on this wiki, as people didn't trust me. A user screwed it, and now I'm sad. [[User:BlackWidowMovie0|BlackWidowMovie0]] ([[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0|talk]]) 21:59, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
::::::There's a quote I'd like to share with you<blockquote>It is said an Eastern monarch once charged his wise men to invent him a sentence, to be ever in view, and which should be true and appropriate in all times and situations. They presented him the words: "And this, too, shall pass away." How much it expresses! How chastening in the hour of pride! How consoling in the depths of affliction!</blockquote><div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>So however sad you are just remember this too shall pass.<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>Being excluding from a community you enjoy being a part of sucks. Believe it or not I'm still fairly new to the helping maintain a wiki business, but I've been doing forum moderation for some time and I've seen many people take it hard when they're excluded, or even when they get muted by just a few others. What I can say is that even in these times you can't let the online world become the whole of your life, and you can't let your self-worth be defined by what other random people on the internet think of you, and your certainly can't let it be decided by what flags your accounts have on various websites, its silly, and not worth the stress. So log off relax, go watch a netflix marathon whatever you have to do to decompress and take care of yourself.<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>I have mixed feelings on the whole clean start thing myself, online communities run to some degree on trust, and clandestine reincarnations can undermine that trust. However, I also feel that [http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/ForgiveAndForget forgive and forget] is a truly important principle, and sometimes a clean start really is best for everyone all around. And the truth is that in some communities no one cares how many accounts you have, even if there all logged on at once, others don't even have user accounts at all; after all [http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/LoginsAreEvil logins are evil], and for yet others while you can create an account if you want to almost no one does (thinking of the various chans here). And for wikis the thing is everyone is ultimately coming together for barn-raising, as a group we can all build something none of us could've built on our own, and what's important is that the barn gets built not who built it.<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>So I'm starting to ramble, but if the communities you want to be a part of don't allow clean starts then don't. Just go back openly, apologize, explain what you did wrong, and see if you can find a way forward, yes it sucks to have a bunch of people say you're a disruptive user, but ignore them, use your emotions constructively to prove everyone wrong by being the best barn-builder out there; grow and learn from your mistakes.<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>But some places won't allow you back no matter what, many small-wikis and forums (not to mention some of the large ones) are run by the pettiest tyrants imaginable, others will allow you back only with silly and unreasonable demands, if that's the case fuck'em; just walk-away, your self-worth does not depend on their opinions, and frankly the community probably wasn't worth being part of anyway, so go find somewhere else to hang-out because most likely none of them were your friends in the first place.<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>Anyway I don't care about what you did in the distant past, I care what you are doing now. Maybe you did vandalize a bunch of pages 'for teh lulz', a while back are you going to do it again? No. Well then who cares?<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>Anyway, I know your still struggling to learn some things but from your limited time here your overall trajectory is positive, so take some time off, go for run, make it double, decide what you are going to do, and try to keep things in perspective, these are all really just fun online group projects you can't take them too seriously, Best [[User:Fast|Fast - ZoomZoom]] ([[User talk:Fast|talk]]) 23:36, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
::::::There's a quote I'd like to share with you<blockquote>It is said an Eastern monarch once charged his wise men to invent him a sentence, to be ever in view, and which should be true and appropriate in all times and situations. They presented him the words: "And this, too, shall pass away." How much it expresses! How chastening in the hour of pride! How consoling in the depths of affliction!</blockquote><div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>So however sad you are just remember this too shall pass.<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>Being excluding from a community you enjoy being a part of sucks. Believe it or not I'm still fairly new to the helping maintain a wiki business, but I've been doing forum moderation for some time and I've seen many people take it hard when they're excluded, or even when they get muted by just a few others. What I can say is that even in these times you can't let the online world become the whole of your life, and you can't let your self-worth be defined by what other random people on the internet think of you, and your certainly can't let it be decided by what flags your accounts have on various websites, its silly, and not worth the stress. So log off relax, go watch a netflix marathon whatever you have to do to decompress and take care of yourself.<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>I have mixed feelings on the whole clean start thing myself, online communities run to some degree on trust, and clandestine reincarnations can undermine that trust. However, I also feel that [http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/ForgiveAndForget forgive and forget] is a truly important principle, and sometimes a clean start really is best for everyone all around. And the truth is that in some communities no one cares how many accounts you have, even if there all logged on at once, others don't even have user accounts at all; after all [http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/LoginsAreEvil logins are evil], and for yet others while you can create an account if you want to almost no one does (thinking of the various chans here). And for wikis the thing is everyone is ultimately coming together for barn-raising, as a group we can all build something none of us could've built on our own, and what's important is that the barn gets built not who built it.<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>So I'm starting to ramble, but if the communities you want to be a part of don't allow clean starts then don't. Just go back openly, apologize, explain what you did wrong, and see if you can find a way forward, yes it sucks to have a bunch of people say you're a disruptive user, but ignore them, use your emotions constructively to prove everyone wrong by being the best barn-builder out there; grow and learn from your mistakes.<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>But some places won't allow you back no matter what, many small-wikis and forums (not to mention some of the large ones) are run by the pettiest tyrants imaginable, others will allow you back only with silly and unreasonable demands, if that's the case fuck'em; just walk-away, your self-worth does not depend on their opinions, and frankly the community probably wasn't worth being part of anyway, so go find somewhere else to hang-out because most likely none of them were your friends in the first place.<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>Anyway I don't care about what you did in the distant past, I care what you are doing now. Maybe you did vandalize a bunch of pages 'for teh lulz', a while back are you going to do it again? No. Well then who cares?<div style="margin-top:.5em"></div>Anyway, I know your still struggling to learn some things but from your limited time here your overall trajectory is positive, so take some time off, go for run, make it double, decide what you are going to do, and try to keep things in perspective, these are all really just fun online group projects you can't take them too seriously, Best [[User:Fast|Fast - ZoomZoom]] ([[User talk:Fast|talk]]) 23:36, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
:::::::{{ping|Fast}} You're gonna hate me for this, but <code>TL;DR</code>. JUST KIDDING! I appreciate that. I've had some similar experiences to that myself, it's actually what brought me to Miraheze. I will take another swing at trying to be good here, and would ask for the admin flag back and a full startover. [[User:BlackWidowMovie0|BlackWidowMovie0]] ([[User talk:BlackWidowMovie0|talk]]) 00:50, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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