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==Proposal==


Hello, I happy to here to discuss on my new proposal to make a mediawikipage for this [[User:Aviram7/js/all-in-one.js|this]] JavaScript that help to easily block and oversight or suppress the revision of block user, spammers. etc, this script is originally based on [[metawikimedia:User:WhitePhosphorus/js/all-in-one.js|User:WhitePhosphorus/js/all-in-one.js]] of metawikimedia, but this script needed to modified them, then it's script ready for use on Tesrwiki.


== Name change request ==
*I think [[User:Aviram7/js/all-in-one.js]]  is move to mediawiki namespace, then add this script in gadget and allow to sysop, crats, stewards for use on you're preferences.


Good afternoon, {{Ping|MacFan4000}} & {{Ping|Dmehus}}.
{{Ping|MacFan4000|Dmehus|Drummingman|Justarandomamerican}}
Thanks ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span>  08:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


I am requesting my Test Wiki username to be changed to '''Sav''' to closely reflect my personal name as Trayfel has no correlation to me.
:I would be fine with adding this as a gadget, but not on the common.js. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 10:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


Regards, [[User:Sav|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 13:52, 8 June 2022 (UTC).
::{{Ping|X}} Hello, Well! we have no probelm, If you like more gadgets for use, please see my common. js and this gadget is very helpful, firstly please test this js and then we think what can I do later?.
Thanks ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span>  12:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


:{{Ping|MacFan4000}} & {{Ping|Dmehus}} - Can this be done, please? [[User:Sav|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 19:06, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
:This gadget would likely need to be restricted to stewards due to just how powerful it is. Being able to revert all of a users edits, delete all the pages they've created, and block them in one click is simply a lot. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
::{{Done}} [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 19:50, 4 July 2022 (UTC)


== Restoration of my admin rights ==
:::X, You're right this js script is very powerful Use of this JavaScript should only be allowed by stewards and not allowed to use by any other privileged persons. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span>  03:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
::::I've commented it out of your common.js page for the moment, as it could cause some serious mayhem if used improperly. Ask me if you need a test performed. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


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::::::@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] Hello, Thank you for removing this script from my common. js, I've already performed the after adding this script on my common. js, I think this js script is more useful for the stewards. {{Thank}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 15:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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::Closed as per [[Special:Diff/23493|Mac's comment]] [[User:Sav|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 18:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


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==Replace text==
I've used it a lot in the past, and it saved a lot of time. But as of now, it's restricted to <u>stewards</u>. Why's that? [[User:Saint|Saint]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 04:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


Hello, a few days ago I had uploaded a screenshot I had taken of a porn site as a test of the upload function. I do admit that image was questionable and I probably should have used better judgement before deciding to upload it. However, I will not upload any images like that ever again and will continue to be clean in all my other tests here. May I please have my admin privileges back (they were revoked due to this situation)? [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 00:32, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
:It was found that a vandal who gained sysop rights could vandalize the [[Main Page]] or similarly important Steward protected pages using ReplaceText. I know it has a lot of utility for you, so feel free to send me a message on my talk page, or Drummingman on his with a request, ensuring that original text, new text, and namespace(s) are provided. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 12:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{on hold}} - Considering this situation occurred this day, I do not feel you are ready. Can '''2''' other 'crats and/or a Steward please voice their opinion on this. [[User:Sav|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 00:34, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
::Is it possible to allow interface administrators to use it? [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 13:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
:: See [[Special:Diff/23468/23478]]. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 01:02, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
:::I suggested that to MacFan when I originally opened a security task about the issue. Me personally, I think it would be better to create a separate group that's able to use it, as IA is ''primarily'' intended to allow editing of script pages, though I am fine with bundling it in to IA (and Stewards) along with creating a separate group. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
::: I have also modified AF#88 so as to prevent future uploads, if any. [[User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh]] ([[User talk:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh|talk]]) 01:20, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
*I don't trust her. And it's not matter of time. How many times do we have to be betrayed trust we put on her? I won't trust her unless she proves she '''changed''', and again, '''it's not matter of time'''.
*Since she's "'''[[Special:Diff/21214|Steward-managed]]'''" case and we [[Special:Diff/21619|can't]] make "community block"(even if we could, she would evade blocking anyway, as she did [[Special:PermaLink/22321#Sierpnia|here]]), I'm not inclined to be involved in her anymore. If steward think she should be granted permission, then they can do it as their responsibility. If she causes any trouble, then steward should take care of it as their responsibility. After all, she's "Steward-managed" user, isn't she?
*I think further RFP request shouldn't be handled. But since "I'm not inclined to be involved in her", I don't insist. If steward/community decides otherwise, then it's fine.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 01:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC)


So if I ask for admin or bureaucrat, only a steward should handle those requests? [[User:Seiyena|Seiyena]] ([[Special:Contribs/Seiyena|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Seiyena|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 13:42, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
=='Crat sysop first requirement==
:Due to continued misuse of tools and ignoring of people, I have decided to apply an indefinite block. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 15:26, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
::Thank you Mac, much appreciated. [[User:Sav|Trayfel]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 18:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC){{discussionbottom}}
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== Proposed amendment to [[Test Wiki:Bots]] ==
{{ping|EPIC|X|DR}} as interested persons.
Recently, upon DR requesting bureaucrat, they were given it without first being an administrator. EPIC removed the crat right, and X restored it, stating that the requirement was pointless. To prevent a wheel war, I think it's best to set down community consensus on the issue. What do you, the reader, think of the requirement to be a sysop before being a bureaucrat? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 03:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)


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:@[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]]: I've support you're thoughts, This is test wiki not Wikipedia, we are here to testing of specific permission, firstly If any new user request for both rights, then firstly grant only sysop permission but not crats, because sysop have more permission on his group, crats is most important permission on the wiki, I don't understand why both user's make editwar in removing or adding crats permission from @DR, who received both permission after reviewing his request by an other crats. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 04:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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::I personally think that just like on other test wikis, there should some kind of requirement before being able to request crat, either an edit requirement (maybe something like 10 edits before being able to request bureaucrat would be a fair requirement if so?), or a requirement of a specific amount of days of having sysop before requesting crat (a day or two perhaps), or maybe a mix of both of those requirements.
::No consensus and insufficient participation to form consensus. While there are sound reasons for this to be added, this seems to be a bit of putting the proverbial cart before the horse. In other words, until we have clear bot approval criteria, how do we enforce this, which is what I suspect [[User:Chrs|Chrs]] means by this (at least in part). [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:47, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
::The reason I think so is because unlike on other test wikis, the crat permission is quite powerful and can remove both bureaucrat and sysop rights. If it's given very liberally it can be quite dangerous. Now, I know DR from Wikimedia and they are a trusted user who I certainly don't think would abuse the bureaucrat rights, so I have nothing against them having crat. But, I don't have any intents to wheel war, the permissions have been given back and it can remain so. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 08:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::My intention was also not to wheel war. I know EPIC mentioned some suggestions for "requirements" for the 'crat role. However, as of now, those do not exist, making the rule about being a sysop first pointless. There is some Wikimedia essay about not following the policies if doing so would prevent you from improving the site, but I can't remember what it was titled. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 11:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
:You can remove the bureaucrat right from my account since I won’t be using it. I have MediaWiki installed on my local machine for testing purposes, and I already have all the advanced rights there. Here on this test wiki, my goal is to assist others by deploying some important and useful scripts and translating help pages. Initially, I thought that crats have access to grant the interface admin right, but it appears they do not, so I no longer require this role. Could any Steward please grant the interface admin right to my account? I would like to deploy some useful gadgets. Also, for granting requirements, I believe granting the bureaucrat role should be discretionary. [[User:DR|DR]] ([[User talk:DR|talk]]) 09:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
:We should definitely set requirements for gaining crat. It is a powerful position, and any disruptive user can easily misuse it. Since EPIC knew DR , there would not be a problem, but if a random user came and requested sysop and crat, there is a chance of vandalism or disruption. I propose that a user must wait 24 hours and make 10 edits before requesting crat rights [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC)


=== Proposal ===
==Permission revocation request==
I propose that [[Template:Emergency-user-block|this]] template be added to every [[Test Wiki:Bots|Bot]] account that is created.
<br>This would be in line with [[W:Template:Emergency-bot-shutoff|Wikipedia's bot shutoff]] template. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 20:00, 18 July 2022 (UTC)


'''Rationale:'''
Hello, I am currently suffering from high powerful stress which is impairing my ability to work on test wiki and elsewhere, hence, I request the admins of test wiki to please remove my sysop + crats permission on my account, I will try to come back and edit here. Thanks to all the editors of test wiki for giving me a chance to test the tools of sysop and crats and I hope I have not broken any rules and regulations of test wiki.. {{Thanks}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span>  04:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
* Provides Administrators & 'crats with a simple way to block a malfunctioning bot account.


==== Support ====
:{{d}} — You are free to reapply for user permissions when you return. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 08:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)


==== Neutral/Abstain ====
== Interface Right  ==


==== Oppose ====
Hello everyone, I try to re- modifying Twinkle tool for use, but I don't think Twinkle Tool are working on Test Wiki; If you like I like to fix Twinkle tool for working on Test Wiki, so, I needed, please grant me Interface right for permanently for successfully complete this work.{{Thank}} ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span>  16:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{Oppose}} While such templates can be helpful, I don't see a compelling need to enforce this as policy. —&nbsp;<span style="font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Chrs|Chrs]] ([[User talk:Chrs|talk]])</span> 04:01, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
: I think that for the moment you can rework this script into personal subpages and we will see later about the rights because other interface admins will be able to add it as a gadget.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 16:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
::{{Ping|DodoMan}} Hello, Do you know Twinkle Tool are not currently available in gadgets section and it's subpages are not currently exist here, We recreating those pages and interface admin right are more help to edit and create js pages on Test Wiki.Cheers!~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 17:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Aviram7}}Yes I know the tool it’s inavailable but you can rework script on your subpages. At worst, I will create these mediawiki pages and rework them with you. And also you need to request rights to Test Wiki:Request Permissions.[[User:DodoMan|DodoMan]] ([[User talk:DodoMan|talk]]) 17:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)


==== Counter-proposal ====
:::{{re|DodoMan}} That's Great! well I going to request for Interface permission on request page and try to creating twinkle subpages on userspace and I beleive our hard struggle will be positive result proved.~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span> 17:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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== Stewardship request (LisafBia) ==
::::I requested for Interface permission on [[TW:RfP]]. ~~ <span style="background-color:magenta; padding: 2px 5px 1px 5px">[[User:Aviram7|<span style="color:white">αvírαm</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Aviram7|(tαlk)]]</span>  17:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 
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::A [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]] request by [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] for [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Stewardship]]; however, as several participants have noted, they are not sufficiently satisified as to LisafBia's ''reason'' for requesting Stewardship and, by extension of the same token, to there not being a sufficient ''need''. Given that the only other participant, '''Matttest''', who asked questions but has not yet expressed a view either way, is now [[Test Wiki:CheckUser|CheckUser]] blocked for abusing multiple accounts in a duplicitous manner, this is unlikely to be successful. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 22:52, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, there are few stewards on the wiki, I want to help the wiki, please vote! [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 12:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
=== Support ===
=== Oppose ===
{{oppose}} You have not given a plausible reason for you wanting Stewardship. I believe, in my honest opinion, we do not need another Steward. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 15:04, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
:: {{reply|Sav}} There are few stewards on the wiki and I want to be able to help this wiki, I know the policies. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 17:34, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
::: {{reply|LisafBia}} You have '''still not''' given reasoning for your request for stewardship. Saying things like "I want to be able to help this wiki, I know the policies" does not convince me you are suitable for Stewardship. I will not be changing my vote, you are not suitable for the rights in my opinion. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 06:26, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
{{oppose}} No use case was presented to my question/comment, and this wiki is not in urgent need of more stewards, who have extremely advanced permissions. The ability to help out with the wiki is already granted to sysops and bureaucrats, while being test permissions, have broad authority to take non-test action. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:31, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 
=== Comment ===
#{{comment}} and '''Question''': Stewards have highly advanced permissions such as access to a user's IP and previously suppressed edits, along with the ability to suppress edits. Do you specifically need those highly advanced permissions for a particular use case? Or do you simply wish to help out? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
#:: {{reply|Justarandomamerican}} I would prefer to use those powers '''only when needed.''' [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 10:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
# In what situation will you use the CheckUser tools? What's the purpose of CheckUser? --[[User:Matttest|Matttest]] ([[User talk:Matttest|talk]]) 07:57, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
# With the bureaucrat rights, you can already execute lpts of non-test actions. Which exact areas are you going to help out as a steward? --[[User:Matttest|Matttest]] ([[User talk:Matttest|talk]]) 07:57, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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== Technical question ==
 
Hello! On August 25th, I had undo the vandalism from a vandalism-only account. I deleted the user created pages with [[Special:Nuke]]. But I noticed in a CheckUser I did on myself for testing this week that at that moment the IP address changed automatically. Why did this happen? [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 18:46, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
:[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]], with apologies for the delay in responding, can you clarify what you mean by this? If you're referring to your IP address being associated to other users and system users, this is a known issue, as far as I'm aware, and occurs with some extension (can't remember the details off the top of my head at the moment). I'll try and dig up the Wikimedia Phabricator task about it. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 21:53, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Dmehus}} Hello and welcome back! The hostname of one IP is "testwiki.wiki" and the ISP of some others is "Huawei International Pte. Ltd" and my device is Huawei. My normal IP was online from 9:48-10:06, just in between it also showed those system IPs every time I did a mass delete. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 19:59, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
:::[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]], thanks for the welcome! it's hard to know, specifically. I'm not sure if your ISP is Huawei International or not, and I suspect the CheckUser data retention on Test Wiki is only three months, so wouldn't have any way of confirming that now. I know there's an issue with importing pages whereby you import or transwiki pages from another another wiki and choose to assign edits locally where the same username exists on Test Wiki. Those imported usernames will show up associated to ''your'' IP address. Could that be the issue? [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 19:03, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
::::{{Ping|Dmehus}} I believe the error is because the pages I deleted were translations (created by the vandal) and had to be deleted manually and not automatically. I don't think it's too serious but I support fixing the bug if there is one. Thanks! [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 18:06, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 
== False positives ==
 
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::{{Done|[[Special:AbuseFilter/history/52/diff/prev/779|Done]]}} per the reasonable request and per the [[w:WP:CON|consensus]] formed in the discussion below. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 00:50, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
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{{ping|MacFan4000|Dmehus}} 52 filter constantly block users incorrectly. Please disable this filter.
[[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 11:49, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
:[[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]], I'd be fine with disabling this filter, if it's generating too many false positives, and I plan to be more active here, so can focus on running CheckUser on the obvious spambots and soft rangeblocking open proxies. Would anyone have any objections to this? [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]], [[User:Q8j|Q8j]], [[User:Sav|Sav]], [[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]], and anyone else active here? [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 19:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Dmehus}} I have no objection, I totally agree. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 13:22, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
:::{{Ping|Dmehus}} No objection from me, I agree. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 16:32, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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== Can't log in to Phorge even with exactly the same password that I use there? ==
 
...see topic name. I tried it like 3 times, but it failed. I wanted to request merging of <code>autopatrol</code> and <code>autoreview</code> user groups. — [[User:Cruster|Cruster]] 19:30, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
* {{ping|MacFan4000}} — [[User:Cruster|Cruster]] 19:37, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
:You have to use the button that says sign in with mediawiki. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 22:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 
== Stewardship request (Tm8150switch88) ==
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::No consensus along with the requester being blocked from the Wiki. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 09:55, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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===Nomination===
I want to access advanced tools on The Test Wiki and to protect pages that allow only stewards, please vote. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 16:35, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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#{{Oppose}} I don't see an actual need for the tools. — [[User:Cruster|Cruster]] 09:28, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} As Cruster, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 10:15, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} As Cruster and Drummingman. You could be a steward in a month or two. [[User:Example|Example]] ([[User talk:Example|talk]]) 17:21, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} You are nowhere near active enough nor trusted enough to be granted such permissions. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 09:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 
====Neutral====
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=== Result ===
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== User rights amendment ==
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::No consensus and insufficient participation, along with the OC being blocked from the Wiki. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 09:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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===Proposal===
{{ping|MacFan4000}} See if you could add extended confirmed to the wiki. They are automatically given to users at least 30 days and 500 edits. They could revoke or be given, even if it's less than 30 days and/or less than 500 edits. Revoking the extended confirmed status by the abuse filter action is given to abuse filters as well. Extended confirmed users could be able to edit pages with extended confirmed (or 30/500) protection. Administrators can also edit those pages, even those that are not have reached 30 days and 500 edits. They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 16:40, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 
:See if you also could add template editor user right to the wiki. They are given to users per requests, but also be revoked. They are able to make pages that are template-protected. They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 
::See if you also could add edit filter managers and edit filter helpers to the wiki. They could be given or revoked even to someone that are not  admins. Edit filter helpers could help edit filter managers (but not to edit filter managers, a) (they could look at the spamlist log, b) (they could look at private filters, c) while edit filter managers could edit filters (and all edit filter managers are given edit filter helpers rights, d). They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 
:::See if you also could add the founder to the wiki. Those could edit all user rights, lock and unblock the database, and OAuth CAPTCHA pass. They are only given to system administrator and should not be added to anyone except the legitimate account [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]].  If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 
::::See if you also could add test accounts to the wiki so they are used for testing purposes. They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 
===Discussion===
I don't know why would this will ever be used on the test wiki, most "articles" on here are for tests only [[User:Lolkikmoddi|Lolkikmoddi]] ([[User talk:Lolkikmoddi|talk]])
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== question ==
 
what is "push subscription manager" group, thats all i have [[User:Lolkikmoddi|Lolkikmoddi]] ([[User talk:Lolkikmoddi|talk]])
:I checked your user groups and nothing of the sort appears there. Can you elaborate? [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 16:52, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|Lolkikmoddi}} Information about that group is [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Push_subscription_managers here]. [[User:Example|Example]] ([[User talk:Example|talk]]) 16:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
::Whoever was using the [[User:Example|Example]] account to reply to this question, please refrain from doing so. The Example account is only for testing, not replying to users / editing pages. Know this for next time. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 07:08, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 
== Seiyena is making appeal ==
At [[User_talk:Seiyena#Block_Appeal]]. For your information.--[[User:Q8j|Q8j]] ([[User talk:Q8j|talk]]) 04:30, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
:Thank you, Mac has stated that they are ''not'' going to be unblocked anytime soon. Stewards & 'crats, please disregard any future appeal requests until {{Ping|MacFan4000}} says they are allowed to. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 13:48, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

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Proposal

Latest comment: 10 April7 comments3 people in discussion

Hello, I happy to here to discuss on my new proposal to make a mediawikipage for this this JavaScript that help to easily block and oversight or suppress the revision of block user, spammers. etc, this script is originally based on User:WhitePhosphorus/js/all-in-one.js of metawikimedia, but this script needed to modified them, then it's script ready for use on Tesrwiki.

  • I think User:Aviram7/js/all-in-one.js is move to mediawiki namespace, then add this script in gadget and allow to sysop, crats, stewards for use on you're preferences.

@MacFan4000, Dmehus, Drummingman, and Justarandomamerican: Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 08:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would be fine with adding this as a gadget, but not on the common.js. X (talk + contribs) 10:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@X: Hello, Well! we have no probelm, If you like more gadgets for use, please see my common. js and this gadget is very helpful, firstly please test this js and then we think what can I do later?.

Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 12:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This gadget would likely need to be restricted to stewards due to just how powerful it is. Being able to revert all of a users edits, delete all the pages they've created, and block them in one click is simply a lot. X (talk + contribs) 18:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
X, You're right this js script is very powerful Use of this JavaScript should only be allowed by stewards and not allowed to use by any other privileged persons. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 03:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've commented it out of your common.js page for the moment, as it could cause some serious mayhem if used improperly. Ask me if you need a test performed. Justarandomamerican (talk) 14:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Justarandomamerican Hello, Thank you for removing this script from my common. js, I've already performed the after adding this script on my common. js, I think this js script is more useful for the stewards.  Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Replace text

Latest comment: 10 April4 comments3 people in discussion

I've used it a lot in the past, and it saved a lot of time. But as of now, it's restricted to stewards. Why's that? Saint (talk) 04:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It was found that a vandal who gained sysop rights could vandalize the Main Page or similarly important Steward protected pages using ReplaceText. I know it has a lot of utility for you, so feel free to send me a message on my talk page, or Drummingman on his with a request, ensuring that original text, new text, and namespace(s) are provided. Justarandomamerican (talk) 12:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Is it possible to allow interface administrators to use it? X (talk + contribs) 13:16, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I suggested that to MacFan when I originally opened a security task about the issue. Me personally, I think it would be better to create a separate group that's able to use it, as IA is primarily intended to allow editing of script pages, though I am fine with bundling it in to IA (and Stewards) along with creating a separate group. Justarandomamerican (talk) 13:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

'Crat sysop first requirement

Latest comment: 12 April6 comments6 people in discussion

@EPIC, X, and DR: as interested persons. Recently, upon DR requesting bureaucrat, they were given it without first being an administrator. EPIC removed the crat right, and X restored it, stating that the requirement was pointless. To prevent a wheel war, I think it's best to set down community consensus on the issue. What do you, the reader, think of the requirement to be a sysop before being a bureaucrat? Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Justarandomamerican: I've support you're thoughts, This is test wiki not Wikipedia, we are here to testing of specific permission, firstly If any new user request for both rights, then firstly grant only sysop permission but not crats, because sysop have more permission on his group, crats is most important permission on the wiki, I don't understand why both user's make editwar in removing or adding crats permission from @DR, who received both permission after reviewing his request by an other crats. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 04:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I personally think that just like on other test wikis, there should some kind of requirement before being able to request crat, either an edit requirement (maybe something like 10 edits before being able to request bureaucrat would be a fair requirement if so?), or a requirement of a specific amount of days of having sysop before requesting crat (a day or two perhaps), or maybe a mix of both of those requirements.
The reason I think so is because unlike on other test wikis, the crat permission is quite powerful and can remove both bureaucrat and sysop rights. If it's given very liberally it can be quite dangerous. Now, I know DR from Wikimedia and they are a trusted user who I certainly don't think would abuse the bureaucrat rights, so I have nothing against them having crat. But, I don't have any intents to wheel war, the permissions have been given back and it can remain so. EPIC (talk) 08:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My intention was also not to wheel war. I know EPIC mentioned some suggestions for "requirements" for the 'crat role. However, as of now, those do not exist, making the rule about being a sysop first pointless. There is some Wikimedia essay about not following the policies if doing so would prevent you from improving the site, but I can't remember what it was titled. X (talk + contribs) 11:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You can remove the bureaucrat right from my account since I won’t be using it. I have MediaWiki installed on my local machine for testing purposes, and I already have all the advanced rights there. Here on this test wiki, my goal is to assist others by deploying some important and useful scripts and translating help pages. Initially, I thought that crats have access to grant the interface admin right, but it appears they do not, so I no longer require this role. Could any Steward please grant the interface admin right to my account? I would like to deploy some useful gadgets. Also, for granting requirements, I believe granting the bureaucrat role should be discretionary. DR (talk) 09:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We should definitely set requirements for gaining crat. It is a powerful position, and any disruptive user can easily misuse it. Since EPIC knew DR , there would not be a problem, but if a random user came and requested sysop and crat, there is a chance of vandalism or disruption. I propose that a user must wait 24 hours and make 10 edits before requesting crat rights Harvici (talk) 06:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Permission revocation request

Latest comment: Tuesday at 08:522 comments2 people in discussion

Hello, I am currently suffering from high powerful stress which is impairing my ability to work on test wiki and elsewhere, hence, I request the admins of test wiki to please remove my sysop + crats permission on my account, I will try to come back and edit here. Thanks to all the editors of test wiki for giving me a chance to test the tools of sysop and crats and I hope I have not broken any rules and regulations of test wiki..  Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 04:40, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done — You are free to reapply for user permissions when you return. Drummingman (talk) 08:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Interface Right

Latest comment: Yesterday at 17:406 comments2 people in discussion

Hello everyone, I try to re- modifying Twinkle tool for use, but I don't think Twinkle Tool are working on Test Wiki; If you like I like to fix Twinkle tool for working on Test Wiki, so, I needed, please grant me Interface right for permanently for successfully complete this work. Thanks ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 16:46, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think that for the moment you can rework this script into personal subpages and we will see later about the rights because other interface admins will be able to add it as a gadget.DodoMan (talk) 16:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@DodoMan: Hello, Do you know Twinkle Tool are not currently available in gadgets section and it's subpages are not currently exist here, We recreating those pages and interface admin right are more help to edit and create js pages on Test Wiki.Cheers!~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Aviram7:Yes I know the tool it’s inavailable but you can rework script on your subpages. At worst, I will create these mediawiki pages and rework them with you. And also you need to request rights to Test Wiki:Request Permissions.DodoMan (talk) 17:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@DodoMan: That's Great! well I going to request for Interface permission on request page and try to creating twinkle subpages on userspace and I beleive our hard struggle will be positive result proved.~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I requested for Interface permission on TW:RfP. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 17:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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