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== Proposed amendment to [[Test Wiki:Bots]] ==
== Proposed amendment to [[Test Wiki:Bots]] ==
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::No consensus and insufficient participation to form consensus. While there are sound reasons for this to be added, this seems to be a bit of putting the proverbial cart before the horse. In other words, until we have clear bot approval criteria, how do we enforce this, which is what I suspect [[User:Chrs|Chrs]] means by this (at least in part). [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 23:47, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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=== Proposal ===
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==== Counter-proposal ====
==== Counter-proposal ====
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== Stewardship request (LisafBia) ==
== Stewardship request (LisafBia) ==


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::A [[w:WP:AGF|good-faith]] request by [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] for [[Test Wiki:Stewards|Stewardship]]; however, as several participants have noted, they are not sufficiently satisified as to LisafBia's ''reason'' for requesting Stewardship and, by extension of the same token, to there not being a sufficient ''need''. Given that the only other participant, '''Matttest''', who asked questions but has not yet expressed a view either way, is now [[Test Wiki:CheckUser|CheckUser]] blocked for abusing multiple accounts in a duplicitous manner, this is unlikely to be successful. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 22:52, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, there are few stewards on the wiki, I want to help the wiki, please vote! [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 12:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi, there are few stewards on the wiki, I want to help the wiki, please vote! [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 12:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
=== Support ===
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:: {{reply|Sav}} There are few stewards on the wiki and I want to be able to help this wiki, I know the policies. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 17:34, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
:: {{reply|Sav}} There are few stewards on the wiki and I want to be able to help this wiki, I know the policies. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 17:34, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
::: {{reply|LisafBia}} You have '''still not''' given reasoning for your request for stewardship. Saying things like "I want to be able to help this wiki, I know the policies" does not convince me you are suitable for Stewardship. I will not be changing my vote, you are not suitable for the rights in my opinion. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 06:26, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
::: {{reply|LisafBia}} You have '''still not''' given reasoning for your request for stewardship. Saying things like "I want to be able to help this wiki, I know the policies" does not convince me you are suitable for Stewardship. I will not be changing my vote, you are not suitable for the rights in my opinion. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 06:26, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
{{oppose}} No use case was presented to my question/comment, and this wiki is not in urgent need of more stewards, who have extremely advanced permissions. The ability to help out with the wiki is already granted to sysops and bureaucrats, while being test permissions, have broad authority to take non-test action. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:31, 28 July 2022 (UTC)


=== Comment ===
=== Comment ===
{{comment}} and '''Question''': Stewards have highly advanced permissions such as access to a user's IP and previously suppressed edits, along with the ability to suppress edits. Do you specifically need those highly advanced permissions for a particular use case? Or do you simply wish to help out? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
#{{comment}} and '''Question''': Stewards have highly advanced permissions such as access to a user's IP and previously suppressed edits, along with the ability to suppress edits. Do you specifically need those highly advanced permissions for a particular use case? Or do you simply wish to help out? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
:: {{reply|Justarandomamerican}} I would prefer to use those powers '''only when needed.'''
#:: {{reply|Justarandomamerican}} I would prefer to use those powers '''only when needed.''' [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 10:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
# In what situation will you use the CheckUser tools? What's the purpose of CheckUser? --[[User:Matttest|Matttest]] ([[User talk:Matttest|talk]]) 07:57, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
# With the bureaucrat rights, you can already execute lpts of non-test actions. Which exact areas are you going to help out as a steward? --[[User:Matttest|Matttest]] ([[User talk:Matttest|talk]]) 07:57, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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== Technical question ==
 
Hello! On August 25th, I had undo the vandalism from a vandalism-only account. I deleted the user created pages with [[Special:Nuke]]. But I noticed in a CheckUser I did on myself for testing this week that at that moment the IP address changed automatically. Why did this happen? [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 18:46, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
:[[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]], with apologies for the delay in responding, can you clarify what you mean by this? If you're referring to your IP address being associated to other users and system users, this is a known issue, as far as I'm aware, and occurs with some extension (can't remember the details off the top of my head at the moment). I'll try and dig up the Wikimedia Phabricator task about it. [[User:Dmehus|Dmehus]] ([[User talk:Dmehus|talk]]) 21:53, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Dmehus}} Hello and welcome back! The hostname of one IP is "testwiki.wiki" and the ISP of some others is "Huawei International Pte. Ltd" and my device is Huawei. My normal IP was online from 9:48-10:06, just in between it also showed those system IPs every time I did a mass delete. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 19:59, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 
== False positives ==
 
{{ping|MacFan4000|Dmehus}} 52 filter constantly block users incorrectly. Please disable this filter.
[[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 11:49, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 
== Can't log in to Phorge even with exactly the same password that I use there? ==
 
...see topic name. I tried it like 3 times, but it failed. I wanted to request merging of <code>autopatrol</code> and <code>autoreview</code> user groups. — [[User:Cruster|Cruster]] 19:30, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
* {{ping|MacFan4000}} — [[User:Cruster|Cruster]] 19:37, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
:You have to use the button that says sign in with mediawiki. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 22:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 
== Stewardship request (Tm8150switch88) ==
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::No consensus along with the requester being blocked from the Wiki. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 09:55, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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===Nomination===
I want to access advanced tools on The Test Wiki and to protect pages that allow only stewards, please vote. [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 16:35, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
===Comments===
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===Votes===
====Support====
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====Oppose====
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#{{Oppose}} I don't see an actual need for the tools. — [[User:Cruster|Cruster]] 09:28, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} As Cruster, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 10:15, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} As Cruster and Drummingman. You could be a steward in a month or two. [[User:Example|Example]] ([[User talk:Example|talk]]) 17:21, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
#{{Oppose}} You are nowhere near active enough nor trusted enough to be granted such permissions. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 09:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 
====Neutral====
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=== Result ===
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== User rights amendment ==
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::No consensus and insufficient participation, along with the OC being blocked from the Wiki. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 09:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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===Proposal===
{{ping|MacFan4000}} See if you could add extended confirmed to the wiki. They are automatically given to users at least 30 days and 500 edits. They could revoke or be given, even if it's less than 30 days and/or less than 500 edits. Revoking the extended confirmed status by the abuse filter action is given to abuse filters as well. Extended confirmed users could be able to edit pages with extended confirmed (or 30/500) protection. Administrators can also edit those pages, even those that are not have reached 30 days and 500 edits. They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) 16:40, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
 
:See if you also could add template editor user right to the wiki. They are given to users per requests, but also be revoked. They are able to make pages that are template-protected. They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you!  [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 
::See if you also could add edit filter managers and edit filter helpers to the wiki. They could be given or revoked even to someone that are not  admins. Edit filter helpers could help edit filter managers (but not to edit filter managers, a) (they could look at the spamlist log, b) (they could look at private filters, c) while edit filter managers could edit filters (and all edit filter managers are given edit filter helpers rights, d). They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 
:::See if you also could add the founder to the wiki. Those could edit all user rights, lock and unblock the database, and OAuth CAPTCHA pass. They are only given to system administrator and should not be added to anyone except the legitimate account [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]].  If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 
::::See if you also could add test accounts to the wiki so they are used for testing purposes. They could be given by any administrator. If you have questions, leave it to my talk page. Thank you! [[User:Tailsultimatefan3891|Tailsultimatefan3891]] ([[User talk:Tailsultimatefan3891|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Tailsultimatefan3891|contribs]]) ([[Special:UserRights/Tailsultimatefan3891|rights]]) ([[Special:Block/Tailsultimatefan3891|block]]) 13:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 
===Discussion===
I don't know why would this will ever be used on the test wiki, most "articles" on here are for tests only [[User:Lolkikmoddi|Lolkikmoddi]] ([[User talk:Lolkikmoddi|talk]])
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== question ==
 
what is "push subscription manager" group, thats all i have [[User:Lolkikmoddi|Lolkikmoddi]] ([[User talk:Lolkikmoddi|talk]])
:I checked your user groups and nothing of the sort appears there. Can you elaborate? [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 16:52, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|Lolkikmoddi}} Information about that group is [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Push_subscription_managers here]. [[User:Example|Example]] ([[User talk:Example|talk]]) 16:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

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Name change request

Good afternoon, @MacFan4000: & @Dmehus:.

I am requesting my Test Wiki username to be changed to Sav to closely reflect my personal name as Trayfel has no correlation to me.

Regards, Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 13:52, 8 June 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

@MacFan4000: & @Dmehus: - Can this be done, please? Trayfel • ( Edits | Talk ) 19:06, 4 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Done MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 19:50, 4 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Restoration of my admin rights

Proposed amendment to Test Wiki:Bots

Stewardship request (LisafBia)

Technical question

Hello! On August 25th, I had undo the vandalism from a vandalism-only account. I deleted the user created pages with Special:Nuke. But I noticed in a CheckUser I did on myself for testing this week that at that moment the IP address changed automatically. Why did this happen? AlPaD (talk) 18:46, 10 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

AlPaD, with apologies for the delay in responding, can you clarify what you mean by this? If you're referring to your IP address being associated to other users and system users, this is a known issue, as far as I'm aware, and occurs with some extension (can't remember the details off the top of my head at the moment). I'll try and dig up the Wikimedia Phabricator task about it. Dmehus (talk) 21:53, 11 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Dmehus: Hello and welcome back! The hostname of one IP is "testwiki.wiki" and the ISP of some others is "Huawei International Pte. Ltd" and my device is Huawei. My normal IP was online from 9:48-10:06, just in between it also showed those system IPs every time I did a mass delete. AlPaD (talk) 19:59, 12 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

False positives

@MacFan4000 and Dmehus: 52 filter constantly block users incorrectly. Please disable this filter. LisafBia (talk) 11:49, 11 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can't log in to Phorge even with exactly the same password that I use there?

...see topic name. I tried it like 3 times, but it failed. I wanted to request merging of autopatrol and autoreview user groups. — Cruster 19:30, 11 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You have to use the button that says sign in with mediawiki. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 22:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Stewardship request (Tm8150switch88)

User rights amendment

question

what is "push subscription manager" group, thats all i have Lolkikmoddi (talk)

I checked your user groups and nothing of the sort appears there. Can you elaborate? Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 16:52, 26 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Lolkikmoddi: Information about that group is here. Example (talk) 16:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]