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== Bug Translations ==
==Proposal to upload higher quality user rights icons==
I am proposing to update the user right icons to their higher quality versions. Anybody has opinions or concerns? Thanks. – [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 23:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)


I can't translate via page [[Translations:Test Wiki:Copyrights/1/id]]
:Seems fairly uncontroversial, go ahead. {{done| }} [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 12:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
[[User:Mbrt|Mbrt]] ([[User talk:Mbrt|talk]]) 15:55, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
::{{done}}. [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0F2298">talk</span>]])</sup> 17:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
:http://testwiki.wiki/wiki/Test_Wiki:Copyrights/id [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] ([[User talk:MacFan4000|talk]]) 00:08, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
:::Thank you, much better. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::Done I can now :) [[User:Mbrt|Mbrt]] ([[User talk:Mbrt|talk]]) 07:58, 18 April 2017 (UTC)


== {{not done}} AlvaroMolina for sysadmin ==
==Faulty wikilink==
On [[Test Wiki:Bureaucrats]], it says "Bureaucrat rights are required for any user seeking to gain [[<tvar name="SA">Special:MyLanguage/Test Wiki:System administrators</tvar>|system administrator]], [[<tvar name="SA">Special:MyLanguage/Test Wiki:Suppressors</tvar>|suppressor]], or [[<tvar name="S">Special:MyLanguage/Test Wiki:Stewards</tvar>|steward]]".


I'd like to formally nominate the user AlvaroMolina for the post of sysadmin. He has shown the community that he is very active and knowledgeable about wiki usage (see his miraheze profile @ https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:AlvaroMolina for details). He will also enforce the mutual confirmation clause by being a voice on decisions (1 sysadmin does something and the other 3 can review/vote on it). I believe he will be a valuable asset to both the site and team and hereby nominate him for the post.
However, there seems to be a problem with the "system administrator" wikilink on that page - instead it leads me to [[Test Wiki:Suppressors]]. What could be the problem here? I don't know if I exclusively have this issue, or if it is the same for all users. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 15:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


[[User:Joepayne|Joepayne]] ([[User talk:Joepayne|talk]]) 14:37, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
:{{done|Fixed}}. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 15:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::{{comment}} Also, found the issue; both links had <nowiki><tvar name=SA></nowiki> at the beginning. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 17:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
::This fix seems to have removed the MyLanguage variable entirely, I have instead specified another variable. Thanks for the temp fix, [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 22:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)


Please indicate your acceptance of this nomination below:
==EPIC==
:{{re|Joepayne}} Hi, I think him work good in steward, if you know sysadmin is different with a community social group, however sysadmin work in code and mediawiki system administration (such as git). :)[[User:Mbrt|Mbrt]] ([[User talk:Mbrt|talk]]) 16:07, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
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:At the moment I think I feel comfortable being steward, I might be able to help as sysadmin at some point since I have some experience in managing a server with MediaWiki using FTP and installing extensions both by this method and in console. Regards. [[User:AlvaroMolina|<font color="#1406D0">'''Alvaro Molina'''</font>]] ([[User Talk:AlvaroMolina|<font color="#137500">'''✉'''</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/AlvaroMolina|<font color="#137500">✔</font>]]) 19:44, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
{{done}}. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 15:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)}}
{{userlinks|EPIC}} {{RfP apl}}
*'''Requested right''': Non-steward suppressor
*'''Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom''' (optional): [[meta:User:EPIC]]
*[yes] I am familiar with all of [[:Category:Test Wiki policies|Test Wiki's policies]] and agree to follow them completely.
*[yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
*[yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.


== {{not done}} User:Me for Steward ==
'''Other comments''': Hello there! Might seem odd, but now that our first non-steward suppressor has been chosen, I would like to offer my help and assist as the second one. I'm willing to help with suppression when needed, and I am available/contactable at most times of the day. I go by the same username on the Wikimedia projects, where I am an administrator at two larger wikis, and I have experience with handling sensitive information as a member of the [[meta:VRT|Wikimedia VRT]]. Beforehand I have read [[Test Wiki:Suppressors]], and the [[Test Wiki:Privacy policy|privacy policy]]. Also courtesy pinging {{ping|Justarandomamerican}} and {{ping|Drummingman}}. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 00:14, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:Just in case, I have made a confirmation edit on Wikimedia: [[:wikipedia:Special:Diff/1200184340|see here]] [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 00:17, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:<del>{{neutral}} Though you are a perfectly qualified candidate, I'd like to see the answer to one question, can you explain the need for another suppressor? There are currently 3 active people who are able to handle suppression. If there's a good need, I'll be supporting, as more than qualified! [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)</del> <ins>See weak support comment below.</ins> [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::Hello [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]]! There isn't necessarily the need, but it gives additional value, especially since two of the current stewards are less active, and as mentioned a bit further up, also gives different hours of coverage. FYI, my mainly available times are at most hours within the UTC+1 time zone (since I'm quite a night owl) with the exception for the early morning hours, and I regularly check my mail inbox, so I'm able to quickly act when needed. So, I am of course aware that this is not a role for testing, and I hope my answer is sufficient - feel free to ask further questions if needed. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 09:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Addition: If both stewards choose to approve this, I would suggest also checking that X is not completely against this :) [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 15:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{neutral}}, leaning oppose. Well qualified on other wikis, but has only had an account here for about a month. Also not sure if we need another but I can be swayed. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 01:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::After considering the comments of both stewards, I still think I am going to stand at neutral (leaning oppose). They're no doubt qualified, but the 1 month of having an account is simply a deal breaker for me. :) [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:54, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{support|Weakest possible support}} I don't see much harm in you being given the tools purely to have an extra suppressor available. Perfectly qualified. <ins>However, the lack of time spent here is a bit concerning to me.</ins> [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{support}} leaning neutral, I don't really have any objections, but think a month is a bit early. I do take note that EPIC has [[meta:Stewards/Elections 2024/Statements/EPIC|applied]] to be a steward on Wikimedia, if he is elected, it could be an advantage in fighting cross-wiki vandalism. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 15:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:I am also curious how this will turn out. If it is successful, it will likely also take most of EPIC's time. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 16:23, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
::I will see how it goes, but I hope to be able to split my activity between different wikis like I've been able to so far, and I should be able to work it out - and if not, I would of course be removed for inactivity per Test Wiki policy. Either way, right now this is mostly depending on Justarandomamerican, so I suggest pending his reply to begin with. If this is successful I do of course plan to take it easy at first, and ask a steward if in doubt. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 17:14, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{support}} Per above. [[User:AlPaD|AlPaD]] ([[User talk:AlPaD|talk]]) 19:37, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
:At the moment, there seems to be a weak consensus. Relisting. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:19, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
::There are two weak supports, one regular support, and one neutral. Averaging this out gets you around a roughly 75% support ratio. (S = 100, WS = 75, N = 50, WO = 25, O = 0) [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 00:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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I'd like to become a steward. I shall be held fully responsible and my rights revoked if anything goes wrong.
==Clearly define suppression criteria in policy==
[[User:Me|<span style="color: lightgreen">'''M'''</span><span style="color: red">'''e'''</span>]] [[User talk:Me|<span style="color: orange">'''Contact'''</span>]] 09:52, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
{{Discussion top|
: I’m sorry but you haven’t been here long enough. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] ([[User talk:MacFan4000|talk]]) 10:33, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
:{{On hold}} for internal discussion [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
::{{done|Resolved}}. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:15, 8 February 2024 (UTC)}}
Steward-defined suppression practices seems to have only worked in the past when only stewards and sysadmins had access to the tool, but it seems to only lead to inner confusion now that non-Stewards can have access to the bit. Therefore, there needs to be a set of clearly defined suppression criteria. Perhaps we could base these off [https://www.thetestwiki.org/wiki/The_Test_Wiki:Suppression_policy The Test Wiki]? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


== {{not done}} Bingobro; Steward and Checkuser ==
:<del>{{ping|Dmehus|Saint}}</del> Your input is invited. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
::There is simply a disagreement on how to define serious vandalism. We have no disagreements with PII, copyright, and other suppressible edits. I don't see how using The Test Wiki's criteria would help at all as it doesn't address this.  I don't see why there isn't simply an ''internal'' discussion about the definition. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 02:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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Id like to request Steward and Checkuser rights. I'll use them responsibly. [[User:Bingobro|<span style="color: red">'''Bingo'''</span><span style="color: gold">'''bro'''</span>]] [[User talk:Bingobro|<span style="color: blue">'''(Chat)'''</span>]] 08:40, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
==RFC: Redo [[Test Wiki:Suppressors|suppression]] page==
{{discussion top|{{Done}}. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 17:36, 10 February 2024 (UTC)}}
I propose replacing [[Test Wiki:Suppressors]] with [[User:X/Suppression guide]]. Let me know your thoughts. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 12:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)


:LGTM. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:48, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
::Great, super happy to hear that. Glad we could come to a consensus. @[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] just verifying that you're okay with this? [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 14:50, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm okay with it. :) [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 17:00, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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I've been waiting quite long now [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] ([[User talk:MacFan4000|talk]]) or anyone else kindly help. [[User:Bingobro|<span style="color: red">'''Bingo'''</span><span style="color: gold">'''bro'''</span>]] [[User talk:Bingobro|<span style="color: blue">'''(Chat)'''</span>]] 03:41, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
==Sav==
{{discussion top|{{not done}} as there is a lack of consensus amongst the stewards and community. Thank you, Sav, for applying. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 14:11, 20 February 2024 (UTC)}}
{{userlinks|Sav}} {{RfP apl}}
*'''Requested right''': Non-steward suppressor
*'''Link to your account in other projects, e.g. Wikimedia, Miraheze, Fandom''' (optional): N/A
*[Yes] I am familiar with all of [[:Category:Test Wiki policies|Test Wiki's policies]] and agree to follow them completely.
*[Yes] I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.
*[Yes] I agree that if I misuse the tools, my access might be revoked and I may be banned from Test Wiki without prior warning.


===Support===
'''Other comments''': As a trusted and well-known user within the Test Wiki space, I believe I am qualified to be the next Non-steward suppressor. I believe being granted Non-steward suppressor would help X and the Steward team with lessening the load of work they may have to do in the future. As I live in the UK, I would be able to actively provide suppressions without compromising privacy. Please feel free to ask questions below.<!-- You may use this space to insert other comments relevant to your request --> [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 21:32, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
1.{{Done}} '''Strong Support''': I'd support this user as he has approved a few requests for adminship (including me).He has also blocked unruly/rouge users. [[User:Me|<span style="color: lightgreen">'''M'''</span><span style="color: red">'''e'''</span>]] [[User talk:Me|<span style="color: orange">'''Contact'''</span>]] 08:16, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
:Hi Sav! One question that I assume the stewards will ask is this: Do you feel there is sufficient need for another NSS, given that we currently have three active and one pending application? [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:06, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
::Hello, X. As stated, this RfP is for Non-steward suppressor. I shall assume that is what you meant. I do feel there is sufficient need for another Non-steward suppressor due to the fact that having those with said rights from multiple timezones, is better than having a few all in the same. Regards, [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 23:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes, that is what I mean't. ''facepalm''. [[User:X|X]] ([[User talk:X|talk]]) 23:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you for the clarification, X. My above statement remains valid then. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 23:46, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
:Hello! Just a quick question: Will you take long hiatuses in the future? Thanks, [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
::Hello, Justarandomamerican. I do not plan or see myself taking a long hiatus in the near future. As of now, I plan to be active. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 00:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{oppose}} I don't think we need a new non steward supressor. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 16:35, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
::Hello, {{Ping|LisafBia}}. Can you elaborate on why you think The Test Wiki doesn't need a new non steward supressor? As far as I know, there is only 1 and that is [[User:X|X]]. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 15:07, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Considering that the Stewards also have Supress authority, there are 5 suppressors in total and most of them are active. Therefore we don't need a new supressor. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 15:25, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
::::*Dmehus {{not done| }}
::::*Macfan {{not done| }}
::::*X {{d| }}
::::*Justarandomamerican {{done| }}
::::*Drummingman {{done| }}
::::Is the current list. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 16:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::Thank you, X. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 16:31, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
:{{o|Weak oppose}}, for the moment, we have enough active suppressors with the recent appointment of EPIC. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 15:08, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for your explanation. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 18:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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===Oppose===
==Name Change Requests==
* '''Weak Oppose''' I like if you get one year here and actively. [[User:Mbrt|Mbrt]] ([[User talk:Mbrt|talk]]) 02:20, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
{{Discussion top}}
{{done}}
Hi, could my name here be changed to Fullegente please? It's a name I've begun using elsewhere, such as Filmpedia and Wikimedia, and I'd like it to be my name here as well, as it's more unique than Piccadilly. Thank you! [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 15:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)


===Neutral===
Hello, stewards. I would appreciate if you could also change my username to Saint. Thank you! [[User:Saint|Username]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 20:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
* '''Netural''' I think we have enough stewards for right now, maybe if the site becomes more active. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] ([[User talk:MacFan4000|talk]]) 14:54, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
{{re|MacFan4000}}Well could I get Check user since no one is voting I think you are the only one active to do such things.[[User:Bingobro|<span style="color: red">'''Bingo'''</span><span style="color: gold">'''bro'''</span>]] [[User talk:Bingobro|<span style="color: blue">'''(Chat)'''</span>]] 12:08, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
:CheckUser is only given to Stewards/Sysadmins. We have currently got four stewards (including me). [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] ([[User talk:MacFan4000|talk]]) 13:30, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
* '''Neutral''' Per [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]]. —[[User:AlvaroMolina|<font color="#1406D0">'''Alvaro Molina'''</font>]] ([[User Talk:AlvaroMolina|<font color="#137500">'''✉'''</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/AlvaroMolina|<font color="#137500">✔</font>]]) 14:25, 27 September 2017 (UTC)


Respect, your opinions guys. Guess I'll have to wait a little.Thanks.[[User:Bingobro|<span style="color: red">'''Bingo'''</span><span style="color: gold">'''bro'''</span>]] [[User talk:Bingobro|<span style="color: blue">'''(Chat)'''</span>]] 05:13, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
:{{done}}. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 20:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
::Can I be renamed to Fullegente please? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 20:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:::{{on hold}} -- For this request, I would like responses from other fellow stewards and users. And specifically whether any objections. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 21:11, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
::::Just curious, why does my request need other opinions while Saint's didn't? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 21:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::That specifically has to do with your past here and that you have already been renamed several times. I think it is prudent that the community here can give his/her opinion, if there are no significant objections then I or another steward will rename you. Meanwhile, I ask if you will wait patiently? Greetings, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 21:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I will wait patiently. And I won't ask for anymore renames after this one. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 21:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Hmm. @[[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] I'd say rename her once she gains enough trust to become a bureaucrat per the off-wiki discussion. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 21:32, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
::::I think it’s OK that Piccadilly should have her username changed in this moment as well. [[User:Saint|Saint]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 21:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::I agree with [[User:X|X]]. Piccadilly should wait until enough trust has been built via either achieving Bureaucrat or Administrator rights before requesting a rename. Given how they request one after every unblock, seems to me like they are trying to hide the past events. Regards, [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 00:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC).
Since I'm an admin now and I believe I've been responsible so far with that, can I be renamed now please? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 17:05, 16 February 2024 (UTC)


== New feature request -Page forms ==
:{{not done}}: Renaming you whilst you are restricted may cause confusion. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 19:37, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
::+1, also considering that Piccadilly just recently [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/ShadowAgunomu used a sock account on Wikimedia with the same talk page creation pattern as shown here]. No objections to renaming when trust is regained, though. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 20:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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Hello [[User:MacFan4000]]
==Proposal to delete [[Test Wiki:Example users|example user]] right==
I would like to request a extension https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Page_Forms for testing purpose. Thanks in advance <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 8px red;  padding:4px; background: ivory; color: blue; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Anoop Rao|Anoop/ಅನೂಪ್]] <sup>[[User talk:Anoop Rao|]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Anoop Rao|.    ©]]</sub></span> 06:10, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
I created a Phabricator request. ([[phab:T89|T89]]). [[User:Saint|Saint]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 05:56, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
:Per miraheze reasoning for disabling it, it seems to not work right now. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] ([[User talk:MacFan4000|talk]]) 20:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)


== Why this strange condition while asking for permissions  ==


Hi,
==[[User:Zippybonzo|Zippybonzo]]'s ban==
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For context, this user was banned by the community for cross-wiki abuse on a wiki whose owner has apparently engaged in a deception campaign against their own volunteers: "The ban is not required as firstly, I don't think that actions on other wikis require blocks/bans everywhere, and secondly, the owner of said wiki was found to be abusing on their wiki and deceiving their own stewards. Hence why I believe my ban should be lifted." [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 20:18, 18 February 2024 (UTC)


Its a good idea to have admin rigghts easily for testing purposes. I found last part of second condition bit strange while asking for permissions it says "I agree that I am entirely responsible for all actions done under this account, <s> including actions performed under this account by someone other than myself.</s> Why does some one should take responsibility for action not performed by himself ?  
===Discussion===
*{{support}} unban: It's no longer even possible to prove he committed the alleged actions, and even if he did, it's not worthy of a community ban or block because no off-wiki harassment has occurred. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 20:21, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{support}} as well. I agree that one's actions on one wiki shouldn't lead to sanctions everywhere. Plus, the other wiki involved is no longer functional, and I think he should be given another chance. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 20:31, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
::Perhaps if Zippybonzo is unblocked, it might help to havr an interaction ban between him and Cocopuff? [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 15:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{support}} per both statements above. [[User:Saint|Saint]] ([[User talk:Saint|talk]]) 20:57, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
*<s>{{Oppose|Strongest oppose}} [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 00:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)</s><small> Struck by [[User:X|X]] as user has voted twice. </small>
*{{support}} --[[User:PB2008|PB2008]] ([[User talk:PB2008|talk]]) 00:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{oppose|Strongest oppose}} there is soo many reasons for me to go on and on about zippy, however i will try to stay as breif as i can, while you may think his actions should Not carry over i believe it should in the past he has told users to go raid a wiki [https://ibb.co/mNqtfw1 link here], and has also raided a wiki while being a system admin in the past with inappropriate images Ruining the wiki [https://ibb.co/CPtKnPb link here] and [https://ibb.co/gzxgyFk link 2] with this all being said zippy has recently abused multiple accounts on the wiki farm filmpedia.us and his actions are being ignored while everyone believes im responsible for sockpuppeting, (False) you are claiming zippy is all innocent and im not, i must also mention that user agent isnt always accurate and therefore the proof against me is hereby invalid please see [https://www.google.com/search?q=is+user+agent+accurate&sca_esv=1ba2041d0738a613&sxsrf=ACQVn09Bxvas8BcXZbmYkmUIC0u5UjTKZw%3A1708353347201&source=hp&ei=Q2fTZaWxCfeKur8PnISDiAY&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZdN1U31nMNeJldf3BuYqI_iLXcDlmAa-&oq=is+user+agent&gs_lp=Egdnd3 this link for more information] i will also mention zippy in the past has also said he was gonna invoice me for the work he has done after no longer being a system admin which was volunteer work he has also, threaten to take me to court in dms. zippybonzo has also manipulated globe AKA X many times recently zippy requested a link to the filmpedia discord server which being banned and has sent multiple accounts into the server spamming it. he has also posted nonsense into the server, and the server link was once again provided by globe by his request WHile of course user agent might not be valid proof i still have a reason to beleve zippy is behind the multiple accounts used to sock the wiki including "Coconutworst owner" and a few others i wont mention at this time, with all this being said zippy is the only user with a negative opinion towards me as a owner of filmpedia.us and therefore is a valid reason for me to believe he is behind the sockpuppeting of filmpedia.us and his other actions. i wouldn't recommend unblocking his account at all. nor would i recommenced or trust him for any user rights --[[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 14:48, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
<s>*{{oppose}} Per Cocopuff's comments. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 15:01, 19 February 2024 (UTC)</s>
::Hi Sav. As a former steward and checker on Filmpedia, I can confirm that Cocopuff is behind all of the socking on his own wiki. He has a history of doing so on Miraheze as well. It is true, though, that Zippy did troll the wiki, but that was months ago and only because he wanted to give cocopuff a "taste of his own medicine." I say this not to justify Zippy's actions, but to provide some context to them. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 15:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Once again user agent is always accurate and you can't just believe what someonr says without proof @[[User:X|X]] [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:38, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
::::Fyi I didn't troll my own wiki if you are gonna say zippys proof isnt valid than nor is mine also tast of my own medicine isn't a valid reason for what he did [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:39, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::Nor is it an excuse you just believe whatever someone tells you without valid proof [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:41, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::I could show proof, but that would involve leaking both of your UAs & IP addresses, which I will not do. I would disagree that it "isn't a valid reason" because you literally did the same thing to your own wiki. I also have screenshots of you calling Zippy racial slurs. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 15:42, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I don't really care again user agent Isnt valid proof you are also banned from filmpedis netwotk for what you did in the server, I'm not commenting anymore on this my vote stays the same youve done what zippy told you what to do multiple times this isn't the first time [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:51, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
:::I do understand your points and would like to discuss this further via a private conversation on Discord. Could you please send my account, brelade, a direct message. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 15:48, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Sav|Sav]] user agent isn't valid see the link I posted from Google [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::"I'm not commenting anymore" [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 15:53, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::You know you are gonna be blacklisted if you share the ips @[[User:X|X]] [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Nervous your socking will be discovered? Also, I just said above "I could show proof, but that would involve leaking both of your UAs & IP addresses, which I will not do. " [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 15:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I'm never giving you perms again @[[User:X|X]] [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::If u do it [[User:Cocopuff2018|Cocopuff2018]] ([[User talk:Cocopuff2018|talk]]) 15:59, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
* {{support}} - After communication between X and myself, it is clear that Zippybonzo deserves a second chance. I have striked my initial vote and I agree with revoking the ban on Zippybonzo. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 18:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)


[[User:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] ([[User talk:Mahitgar|talk]]) 14:11, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
*{{d}} -- By concensus, [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 19:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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::because every person who does vandalism can say that they didn't do it and escape from their blocks.Since nobody would have access to your account unless you disclose your account details or use public connections and forget to logging out, which is also your fault.<span style="text-shadow: 0 0 8px red;  padding:4px; background: ivory; color: blue; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Anoop Rao|Anoop/ಅನೂಪ್]] <sup>[[User talk:Anoop Rao|✉]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Anoop Rao|.    ©]]</sub></span> 21:46, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
==[[User:Zippybonzo (testing account)]]==


::I suppse this is  just private/personal  -non wmf- a test wiki . You can heve filters that will apply to users with admin rights too. Any content beyond tests can be removed deleted periodically. Why one needs to punish the user. and If any unlawful thing at all happens there are enough legal protection for website owner. If any case oes at all before any court then It is for investigation agencies and courts to determine whether a specific person was in his control of the device or no. It would be against natural justice if some ones device realy gets stolen and a mis did happens. At times a theft can really happen under durace at such times such condition informs the user that you ought to be looser even if you did not make a real mistake. I do suggest site owners to revisit their contention and take advice from a lawyer and put in reasonable conditions.
Should this account perhaps also be unblocked now that the owner is unbanned? Asking as the block is a steward action. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 18:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
:: I wanted to divert some users to use this site , but under the given conditions it is difficult to advice any one to use the site.


:: If site owners do not feel need to revisit the policy then there is no pint continuing the membership and I request to remove me from your site membership
:Indeed. {{d}}, Thanks for the notification. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 18:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks any way and regards
:: [[User:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] ([[User talk:Mahitgar|talk]]) 10:11, 15 October 2017 (UTC)


==Nomination of EPIC for Stewardship==
{{Discussion top|Unsuccessful: Firstly, I would like to thank the participants for voting. Looking at the results, I see 1 weak support and 2 normal support. 2 votes against and 1 neutral. The general consensus is that EPIC can be trusted as a Wikimedia-steward, but that the nomination is actually too early, since the user has only been active here for a relatively short time, and we already have enough stewards. In short, no consensus to promote. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 15:11, 6 March 2024 (UTC)}}


::::@ [[User:Mahitgar|Mahitgar]] I would like to say as it your choice to maintain account, <div style="color:blue;">this wiki does not entitle for any legal procedures nor accommodates(ex:theft) those you explained above</div> so its choice of Stewards/Staff/System Admin/Owner of this wiki to set rules against spam/vandalism/disrupting other users. This Wiki alongside any MediaWiki sites uses similar Rules and Regulations & Further if you wish to disable your membership please create [[phab:|Phabricator task]] regarding closure of account, We are sorry to see you go. <span style="text-shadow: 0 0 8px red;  padding:4px; background: ivory; color: blue; font-weight:bold;"> [[User:Anoop Rao|Anoop/ಅನೂಪ್]] <sup>[[User talk:Anoop Rao|]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Anoop Rao|.    ©]]</sub></span> 11:06, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to introduce a candidate for the Steward tools, [[User:EPIC|EPIC]]. Already a member of our suppression team and a Wikimedia Steward, I believe he could use the extra tools to combat long-term and cross-wiki abuse, especially where that same abuse is occurring on Wikimedia projects. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 22:49, 27 February 2024 (UTC)


== Flood flag ==
:Thanks for the trust and for the nomination! I have acknowledged it, and will add that I am currently thinking about it, and will come back in a short while for my final decision. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 11:28, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
::It's my pleasure to introduce you for consideration. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:33, 29 February 2024 (UTC)


I am proposing a flood flag like on meta wikipedia. This right should only have the bot right to stop actions from flooding [[Special:RecentChanges]]. A short description is here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Flood_flag . This is based off the principle of least priveledge and differentiates between real bots and quick flooding bot flags easily. --[[User:Joepayne|Joepayne]] ([[User talk:Joepayne|talk]]) 13:51, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: OK, I have been thinking about this for quite a while. I am a little hesitant, considering we do have two active stewards for the moment. But OK, I am here regularly and I do already have CheckUser access on Wikimedia Login Wiki as part of my steward role, and access to other steward tools which are also included in the toolkit here on Test Wiki. So, with some hesitation, but also with pleasure, I accept. [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 13:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
:Well, least privilege doesn't really apply, since the only right that bots have that admins don't (besides bot) is nominornewtalk. I don't know if it's really needed, unless we really want to seriously separate legitimate bots from users performing flood actions. <span style="text-shadow:7px 5px 7px grey;font-family:High Tower Text">-- [[User:Void|<span style="color:#123524">Void</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Void|<span style="color:#353839">''Whispers''</span>]]</sup></span> 00:26, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
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::Actually I think we should separate legitimate bots from flooders just so its quicker and hey you don't really need nominornewtalk unless you are a real bot/user testing bot. Thanks [[User:Joepayne|Joepayne]] ([[User talk:Joepayne|talk]]) 08:37, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
===Discussion:===
*{{support|Weak support}} EPIC is quite trusted. But given the active stewards, I don't think a steward is needed for now, but still support. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 16:32, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{support}} as nom. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 13:54, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
*I support him becoming a steward. I think he'll do a great job. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 14:00, 29 February 2024 (UTC) copied from talk page by [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]])
*{{o}}. The same comments I left in the NSS request still apply. The user still has a relatively short tenure. Our four current stewards have been active members of the wiki for 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, and 8 years. EPIC has been a user of TestWiki for around two months. I do not feel that this is near enough time to gain access to our most advanced toolkit, especially checkuser tools. If the user wasn't a Wikimedia steward, I doubt this request would have any chance of succeeding because of all of these reasons. I also have concerns about how active the candidate will be now that they have large responsibilities at Wikimedia. I find it unwise to apply two high level permissions at almost the same time without knowing how much time you will have to fulfill both duties. Lastly, I don't find the reasoning (combat crosswise abuse) to be persuasive because we only have one LTA here, Piccidally, who is currently not fully blocked. For all of these reasons, I am opposed. Best of luck. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 14:20, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
*:I do agree with these concerns, and would probably not have applied for this myself (it's also why I was a tiny bit hesitant). In this case one of the stewards had endorsed the request, and I have used some of the steward tools, which is why I accepted. Regarding the activity concern I'm here every now and then and I mostly see this as a side wiki (just like Drummingman is a sysop at nlwiki while being a steward here). [[User:EPIC|EPIC]] ([[User talk:EPIC|talk]]) 16:04, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{o}}. As it's been said many times before "we do not need another Steward". You are new to this wiki and only just been granted NSS. We have active Stewards that have made a name for themself over the span of multiple years. EPIC has been active for roughly 2 months. Good luck! [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 14:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
*{{neutral}}, given the supporting/opposing votes happening. You are trusted, but since you're around a couple of months, I decided to remain neutral for these reasons. – [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] 🤔 ([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#1830C4">problem?</span>]]) 22:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
*:Quite honestly, there's a perfect balance of argument strength between support and oppose; both sides have a point. This is likely to be closed as no consensus to promote. I think the lack of history on this specific wiki can be forgiven due to them being a Wikimedia Steward, but others may not think the same.[[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 22:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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==Discussion on a [[User:Justarandomamerican/Usernames|potential username policy]]==
{{discussion top|{{done}}. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 11:36, 25 March 2024 (UTC)}}
What does everyone think of this? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 16:51, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Looks good, but we could add a list of what is and what is not allowed, and could use some better formatting. Also, we have a filter that warns users creating accounts with misleading usernames. – [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] 🤔 ([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#1830C4">problem?</span>]]) 05:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
::List is {{done|done}}.  Any suggestions for formatting? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
::I've fixed the formatting up a bit based on intuition. Any other suggestions? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:04, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
:::LGTM [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 02:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
:I have made a change that does not allow "Usernames that contain any non-public, private, or personally identifiable information about another person or contain any other information that would be deemed appropriate for suppression." [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
===Adoption discussion===
As a policy, this would practically just codify community norms around usernames. I propose (and support) adopting this as policy. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:20, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
*{{support}}. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 14:28, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
*I don't think it is necessary at the moment, but it can still be given a chance. [[User:LisafBia|LisafBia]] ([[User talk:LisafBia|talk]]) 15:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
*{{support}} [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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==Rename request from 64andtim to Codename Norte==
I am requesting a rename from 64andtim to Codename Norte, and 64andsomeone to Códigonombre Alguien to match the same usernames on Wikimedia; these usernames also look better. Thank you. – [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#0024FF;">'''''64andtim'''''</span>]] 🤔 ([[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#1830C4">problem?</span>]]) 18:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 
==Rename Request: Piccadilly to Fullegente==
{{Discussion top|{{not done}} Piccadilly will not be renamed at this time. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 18:31, 4 March 2024 (UTC)}}
Hi, I would like my name to be changed to Fullegente, as that is the name I use in several online games and some other online communities. This will be my last rename request here, as I am aware that I have changed my name a few times here already. Thank you! [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 12:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:{{oppose}} That username was used by a LTA on EnWiki and then locked for XWiki abuse, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=Fullegente&namespace=all&tagfilter=&start=&end=&limit=50], presumably you, since you claim to be Skiyomi who is '''WMF Banned'''. You don't need to change your name ''again''. [[User:Seawolf35|Seawolf35]] ([[User talk:Seawolf35|talk]]) 15:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, I did use that name on Wikimedia (and yes I am Skiyomi), but I'm not sure what my status there has to do with matters here. As long as I behave myself here, I don't think that's relevant. And like I said, this will be my last rename request here. [[User:Piccadilly|Piccadilly]] ([[Special:Contribs/Piccadilly|<span style="color:red">My Contribs</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Piccadilly|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk to me</span>]]) 15:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{neutral}} due to Seawolf35's concern, but as long as you don't violate your one-strike rule, no issues here. [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 16:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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==Need for new system administrator==
 
As we presently only have 1 system administrator, I encourage anyone who would meet the technical requirements to be a [[Test Wiki:System administrators|system administrator]] to apply here on the community portal. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 00:07, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:I know I'm nowhere near active enough, and I don't know any PHP, but, out of curiosity, what exactly is the role of a system administrator here? [[User:Sneezless|Sneezless]] ([[User talk:Sneezless|talk]]) 19:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
::Dear, @[[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] can you tell about your work here? [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 19:36, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Sysadmins are responsible for keeping mediawiki up to date, installing extensions and skins, and maintaining the linux server that Test Wiki runs on. [[User:MacFan4000|MacFan4000]] <sup>([[User talk:MacFan4000|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/MacFan4000|Contribs]])</sup> 15:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
:Considering this is a small Wiki, wouldn't one SysAdmin be fine? [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 23:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
::One is actually not enough because you are dependent on one person, which is very undesirable, vulnerable and also potentially dangerous if that person leaves or is inactive for a while, you have no one else. So, a second one is very desirable. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 16:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
::Hello, Harvici, it is as Drummingman eloquently communicates above. Having a second system administrator would serve many useful functions, such as redundancy and utility. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 02:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes I now understand the need of another System administrator [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 
==Template Merge==
Good morning, everyone!
 
I'd like to propose turning [[Template:Wikibreak|User:Sav/Wikibreak]] into a fully-fledged template. I've invested about a day refining it to better suit The Test Wiki and its needs. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 00:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:I will do it. [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 01:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
::It was for a vote, to see what everyones opinions would be. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 03:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I meant that I will implement this if there are no objections, to clarify. [[User:Codename Norte|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Norte'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Norte|<span style="color:#0a13ad">talk</span>]] 04:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
:Sure, why not? [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 23:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you! I'm going to fine tune the documentation for this wiki also. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 01:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
:::{{done}} ([[Template:wikibreak|Wikibreak]]) [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 01:29, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 
==Proposal: Reduce non-system administrator steward inactivity period==
{{discussion top|{{done|Activity requirement increased}}. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 01:32, 17 March 2024 (UTC)}}
With the ability of any Steward to use CheckUser, a year is much too long for one to be inactive. Therefore, I propose the following: 1. Non system administrator stewards' maximum inactivity period is reduced to 6 months. <s> 2. The 1 hour reclamation of rights period is increased to 3 days (72 hours). </s> [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 14:37, 8 March 2024 (UTC) partially withdrawn 03:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:{{support}} - This makes a lot more sense. [[User:Sav|Sav]] • ([[Special:Contribs/Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff"> Edits</span>]] | [[Special:Newsection/User talk:Sav|<span style="color:#0080ff">Talk </span>]]) 02:56, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
*<s>{{oppose}}.</s> While I agree with reducing the steward inactivity period to 6 months, I don't agree with changing the hour to three days. If you are completely inactive for half a year, you shouldn't be able to get your permissions back without another community weight in. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 03:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
*:I have removed proposal 2. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 03:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Thank you. As such, I now {{support}}. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 03:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{comment}} What is the difference between Non System administrator's steward and just a steward [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 23:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
::The former is a steward who is not a system administrator. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I don't have much experience here, but why should the inactivity period for only non-Sys admins change and not for Sys admins? Since both of them have checkuser [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
::::That has to do with the fact that we have, only, 1 System Administrator. [[User:Drummingman|Drummingman]] ([[User talk:Drummingman|talk]]) 15:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{support}} [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 17:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
{{discussion bottom}}
 
==Discussion on a [[User:Harvici/Signatures|potential Signature policy]]==
 
As there is a discussion on a potential username policy, I thought this would be the perfect time to get through [[User:Harvici/Signatures|a potential signature policy]]. Please feel free to add your own suggestions. [[User:Harvici|<span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#CC4E5C ; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">Harvici</span>]] ([[User talk:Harvici|<span style="color:#228B22">''talk''</span>]]) 06:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Seems unnecessary. We haven't had signature issues with people ever. Appears to be a solution looking for a problem. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 01:42, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
::X, you hit the nail on the head. Nobody has been blocked due to a signature issue, or even approached and warned about one. People have been blocked for having usernames like those in the username policy. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 01:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
:::{{not done}}. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 11:44, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 
==Question==
 
How to get translate admin right?
 
Thanks
 
[[User:Rafdodo|Rafdodo]] ([[User talk:Rafdodo|talk]]) 18:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Rafdodo}} Welcome to Test Wiki! The translate administrator right is bundled into the administrator group. You automatically have its rights. [[User:Justarandomamerican|Justarandomamerican]] ([[User talk:Justarandomamerican|talk]]) 18:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 
==Error in filter==
What I was trying to do: Hi, I was trying to create my user page... <!-- (Please describe what you were trying to do) -->
What message I received: Error<!-- (Please copy the exact message you received here -->
[[User:SilverTester|SilverTester]] ([[User talk:SilverTester|talk]]) 02:10, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:{{done|Disabled}} until a user more experienced with filters can assist. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 02:24, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
::Now actually {{done|fixed}}. [[User:X|'''<span style="background:#3383ff;color:white;padding:5px;box-shadow:0 1px 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.2)">X</span>''']] ([[User talk:X|talk]] + [[Special:Contributions/X|contribs]]) 01:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

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Proposal to upload higher quality user rights icons

I am proposing to update the user right icons to their higher quality versions. Anybody has opinions or concerns? Thanks. – 64andtim (talk) 23:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seems fairly uncontroversial, go ahead.   X (talk) 12:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Done. – 64andtim (talk) 17:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you, much better. X (talk) 23:38, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Faulty wikilink

On Test Wiki:Bureaucrats, it says "Bureaucrat rights are required for any user seeking to gain system administrator, suppressor, or steward".

However, there seems to be a problem with the "system administrator" wikilink on that page - instead it leads me to Test Wiki:Suppressors. What could be the problem here? I don't know if I exclusively have this issue, or if it is the same for all users. EPIC (talk) 15:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Fixed. X (talk) 15:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Comment: Also, found the issue; both links had <tvar name=SA> at the beginning. EPIC (talk) 17:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This fix seems to have removed the MyLanguage variable entirely, I have instead specified another variable. Thanks for the temp fix, Justarandomamerican (talk) 22:57, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

EPIC

Clearly define suppression criteria in policy

RFC: Redo suppression page

Sav

Name Change Requests

Proposal to delete example user right

I created a Phabricator request. (T89). Saint (talk) 05:56, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Zippybonzo's ban

User:Zippybonzo (testing account)

Should this account perhaps also be unblocked now that the owner is unbanned? Asking as the block is a steward action. EPIC (talk) 18:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Indeed.  Done, Thanks for the notification. Drummingman (talk) 18:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nomination of EPIC for Stewardship

Discussion on a potential username policy

Rename request from 64andtim to Codename Norte

I am requesting a rename from 64andtim to Codename Norte, and 64andsomeone to Códigonombre Alguien to match the same usernames on Wikimedia; these usernames also look better. Thank you. – 64andtim 🤔 (problem?) 18:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done. Justarandomamerican (talk) 18:58, 3 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Rename Request: Piccadilly to Fullegente

Need for new system administrator

As we presently only have 1 system administrator, I encourage anyone who would meet the technical requirements to be a system administrator to apply here on the community portal. Justarandomamerican (talk) 00:07, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I know I'm nowhere near active enough, and I don't know any PHP, but, out of curiosity, what exactly is the role of a system administrator here? Sneezless (talk) 19:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Dear, @MacFan4000 can you tell about your work here? Drummingman (talk) 19:36, 7 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sysadmins are responsible for keeping mediawiki up to date, installing extensions and skins, and maintaining the linux server that Test Wiki runs on. MacFan4000 (Talk Contribs) 15:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Considering this is a small Wiki, wouldn't one SysAdmin be fine? Harvici (talk) 23:16, 13 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
One is actually not enough because you are dependent on one person, which is very undesirable, vulnerable and also potentially dangerous if that person leaves or is inactive for a while, you have no one else. So, a second one is very desirable. Drummingman (talk) 16:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello, Harvici, it is as Drummingman eloquently communicates above. Having a second system administrator would serve many useful functions, such as redundancy and utility. Justarandomamerican (talk) 02:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes I now understand the need of another System administrator Harvici (talk) 06:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template Merge

Good morning, everyone!

I'd like to propose turning User:Sav/Wikibreak into a fully-fledged template. I've invested about a day refining it to better suit The Test Wiki and its needs. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 00:55, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I will do it. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 01:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It was for a vote, to see what everyones opinions would be. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 03:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I meant that I will implement this if there are no objections, to clarify. Codename Norte 🤔 talk 04:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sure, why not? Justarandomamerican (talk) 23:02, 7 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! I'm going to fine tune the documentation for this wiki also. Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 01:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Done (Wikibreak) Sav • ( Edits | Talk ) 01:29, 8 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Proposal: Reduce non-system administrator steward inactivity period

Discussion on a potential Signature policy

As there is a discussion on a potential username policy, I thought this would be the perfect time to get through a potential signature policy. Please feel free to add your own suggestions. Harvici (talk) 06:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seems unnecessary. We haven't had signature issues with people ever. Appears to be a solution looking for a problem. X (talk + contribs) 01:42, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
X, you hit the nail on the head. Nobody has been blocked due to a signature issue, or even approached and warned about one. People have been blocked for having usernames like those in the username policy. Justarandomamerican (talk) 01:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Not done. X (talk + contribs) 11:44, 25 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question

How to get translate admin right?

Thanks

Rafdodo (talk) 18:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Rafdodo: Welcome to Test Wiki! The translate administrator right is bundled into the administrator group. You automatically have its rights. Justarandomamerican (talk) 18:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Error in filter

What I was trying to do: Hi, I was trying to create my user page... What message I received: Error SilverTester (talk) 02:10, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Disabled until a user more experienced with filters can assist. X (talk + contribs) 02:24, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Now actually  fixed. X (talk + contribs) 01:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]